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savafan
08-02-2005, 12:08 PM
:laugh: I'd love to know where Jackson Hole is...so I can avoid ever winding up there.

http://www.planetjh.com/brady/brady_2005_08_01_streaker.html

By Gil Brady with additional reporting by Dan Haworth

8.01.05

Fun turned to stunned just after sundown Sunday when a streaker was "tasered" by cops at the 2005 Demolition Derby.

About 3,400 on-lookers Ė including families and children Ė got more than the usual clouds of rodeo dirt and souped-up hot rods ramming into one another when, moments before the winner-takes-all round, a naked man leapt from the stands holding a red fire extinguisher and raced around the rodeo pit, eluding police while attempting to spray fans in the grandstand.

Spectators cheered the nudist as two Jackson Hole police and a sheriffís deputy gave hot pursuit on foot. They finally took the man down when the deputy fired a taser dart into the streakerís right shoulder blade.

The tasering provoked catcalls and boos as the nudist quivered and shook before falling and writhing facedown in the dirt for several seconds. As the arresting peace officers lifted and cuffed the naked manís hands behind his back, urine trickled down the streakerís front.

This prompted many in the stands to shout the strongest insults at police.

Upon recovering, the exhibitionist acknowledged the crowd with a half-dazed nod before shaking his curly hair defiantly while being escorted off in the buff.

Not to be upstaged by the bare truth below, the derby announcer peered out the sky booth, smiled into his mike, and quipped, "Must be a chilly evening."

An informal poll of eyewitness reactions following the incident found near unanimous disapproval at the tactics of law enforcement responding to the scene, from shock and dismay to genuine outrage.

At a party immediately following the derby, an outraged Kevin McBride asked, "How many Jackson Hole cops does it take to catch a naked man in a rodeo arena? I was furious, because it wasnít that big a deal. Did they have to taser him in front of 5,000 people and kids?"

"He was shaking, like this," said a bearded man in his 20s who witnessed the tasering, shimmying his shoulders and rolling his eyes for inquisitive friends several hours later at 43 North.

Others, viewing streakers at the Demolition Derby as an expected annual event in itself, questioned what motivated police to act with such force. Some wondered if this year a new moral high bar had been set.

"It shouldnít be a PG-13 [event]," said Ryan Haworth. "The derby is for adults. However, they made it clear, if you streak you will be punished."

Dave Peters, 23, sitting nearby, said, "It was necessary to make the example, but the taser was excessive."

Georgia Ligori called the actions of the police "excessive" and the use of the taser, "unwarranted."

Ligori continued, "Itís just kids having fun. It was anticipated, it happens nearly every year."

Her friend Kelly Egan told the Planet, "I think for someone who was in no position to use any kind of aggression, it was inappropriate to use a weapon that has in the recent past been lethal. I was overwhelmed by the level of stupidity!"

Eganís husband, Bruce, 52, a retired economist, said, "If you have kids why bring them to a demo-demolish? Pig-wrestling maybe, but demo derby never."

Egan continued, "Tasing the streaker was bull****. Who is the guy hurting? In years past, everyone cheered the streaker. This year, they taser a guy. What happened? Young kids will do what they want to do. They donít have much money, so their 15 minutes of fame is to streak. Iíve seen streakers in my day. Iíve been to Yankee Stadium and World Cup soccer matches, but this is the first streaker Iíve ever seen tasered ... it was police brutality and excessive force."

At a post-derby house party featuring loud music and flowing kegs that attracted the attention of police cruisers, Leah Smith shook her head wistfully while reflecting on what she had saw, "He was a true American. Tasering him was pretty lame. The streaker was the essence of the derby."

Her male companion sipped his beer and nodded in full agreement.

:lol:

ochre
08-02-2005, 12:11 PM
I think its a ski town. Wyoming maybe?

RFS62
08-02-2005, 12:16 PM
I think its a ski town. Wyoming maybe?


Yep.

rdiersin
08-02-2005, 12:21 PM
:laugh: I'd love to know where Jackson Hole is...so I can avoid ever winding up there.


I would have to say that the scenery of the Grand Tetons along with the Snake River absolutely outweighs any chance of getting tasered. Not to mention the skiing in the winter.

savafan
08-02-2005, 12:23 PM
I would have to say that the scenery of the Grand Tetons along with the Snake River absolutely outweighs any chance of getting tasered. Not to mention the skiing in the winter.

My problem isn't with getting tasered, it's with the mindset of the people there.

PickOff
08-02-2005, 12:29 PM
Maybe he had a dirty bomb up his anus. :thumbup: You can't take any chances these days.

Gimme a break.

Chip R
08-02-2005, 12:30 PM
I've actually been skiing there. Very nice.

PickOff
08-02-2005, 12:32 PM
The Grand Tetons are literally breath taking.

Johnny Footstool
08-02-2005, 12:42 PM
"Did they have to taser him in front of 5,000 people and kids?"

Did he have to run naked in front of 5000 people and kids?


"He was a true American. Tasering him was pretty lame. The streaker was the essence of the derby."

Yeah, I remember that famous painting of George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson streaking across the Delaware.

Are these people actually thinking before they let their mouths move?


Leah Smith shook her head wistfully while reflecting on what she had saw

I guess the journalists in Jackson Hole are just as ignorant as the residents.

savafan
08-02-2005, 12:45 PM
Did he have to run naked in front of 5000 people and kids?



Yeah, I remember that famous painting of George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson streaking across the Delaware.

Are these people actually thinking before they let their mouths move?



I guess the journalists in Jackson Hole are just as ignorant as the residents.
Thank you for proving my point.

REDREAD
08-02-2005, 01:01 PM
I've actually been skiing there. Very nice.

Come for the streakers, stay for the skiing :laugh:

registerthis
08-02-2005, 01:43 PM
I guess they should have just let him run amok, then. :rolleyes:

This reminds me of the people at various college campuses who riot every year at daylight savings time when there is one less hour to drink in the bars. Get a life, people.

Roy Tucker
08-02-2005, 01:51 PM
Was there some tradition of streaking in this event? Seems inferred in the article.

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 02:09 PM
Poor guy.... :help:

CrackerJack
08-02-2005, 02:20 PM
Was there some tradition of streaking in this event? Seems inferred in the article.

Apparently. They get a kick out of it for a while big deal, and if the cops are too fat or slow to catch him then maybe they are the ones who need to be tasered (nothing against police in general but these guys seem pretty weak if they can't control him eventually). Jethro must've been itchin' to use that new tasa gun he got last Xmas from Barney.

And why people think it's so horrible for a child to see a non-sexual streaker (for God's sakes drop the puritannical nonsense you ever seen your grandpa naked when you were 5? that's more likely to cause trauma than some college kid, lighten up people) but ok for that same child to witness a violent take down with a taser dart and a man twitching and peeing on himself makes it better - is beyond me.

I agree with the residents, they seem to be more intelligent, calm and rational than these knee jerk, half wit cops in that town.

Sorry not a big fan of police brutality or taser guns. Next thing you know people will be getting tasered for questioning a parking ticket or toilet papering someone's house.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 02:24 PM
before shaking his curly hair defiantly

Hmmmm...curly hair, streaking. It's all coming together now. It was this quy...

http://www.nndb.com/people/096/000026018/will-ferrell-sized.jpg

We're going streaking! Lets go come on everybody, we're going streaking!

http://prodtn.cafepress.com/6/21951636_F_tn.jpg

I'm not the only one that thought that movie was hilarious, right?

halcyon
08-04-2005, 11:30 AM
I was actually IN Jackson Hole when this happened last week (traveled there on vacation from SW VA. The local newspaper front page headlines expressed the considerable public outcry against what happened to the "streaker" lest everyone get the wrong idea about folks from this part of Wyoming. The picture was completely hilarious, to boot. And yes, the scenery outweighs any negative things you could possibly take from the town. I very much enjoyed this part of the country (including the people).

westofyou
08-04-2005, 11:50 AM
I was actually IN Jackson Hole when this happened last week (traveled there on vacation from SW VA. The local newspaper front page headlines expressed the considerable public outcry against what happened to the "streaker" lest everyone get the wrong idea about folks from this part of Wyoming. The picture was completely hilarious, to boot. And yes, the scenery outweighs any negative things you could possibly take from the town. I very much enjoyed this part of the country (including the people).

Did you make it into that Cowboy Bar? that place is a gem.


My problem isn't with getting tasered, it's with the mindset of the people there.

I can name a zillion places that I feel the same way about... problem is most of those places don't have mountains. :evil:

HotCorner
08-04-2005, 11:50 AM
Hmmmm...curly hair, streaking. It's all coming together now. It was this quy...

http://www.nndb.com/people/096/000026018/will-ferrell-sized.jpg

We're going streaking! Lets go come on everybody, we're going streaking!

http://prodtn.cafepress.com/6/21951636_F_tn.jpg

I'm not the only one that thought that movie was hilarious, right?

:thumbup:

http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/movies/old_school/oldschool18.jpg

Johnny Footstool
08-04-2005, 11:54 AM
And why people think it's so horrible for a child to see a non-sexual streaker (for God's sakes drop the puritannical nonsense you ever seen your grandpa naked when you were 5? that's more likely to cause trauma than some college kid, lighten up people) but ok for that same child to witness a violent take down with a taser dart and a man twitching and peeing on himself makes it better - is beyond me.

So you're cool with indecent exposure and disorderly conduct (BTW - both are crimes), but you don't want people to see the consequences of committing those crimes?

Fair enough. Takes all kinds, I guess.

M2
08-04-2005, 12:40 PM
So you're cool with indecent exposure and disorderly conduct (BTW - both are crimes), but you don't want people to see the consequences of committing those crimes?

I'm cool with it. A naked guy running around offends me not in the least. If my kids were with me (ages 8 and 5), we'd be cracking up at how stupid he looked. Hearing a steady stream of F-bombs in the audience would worry me a lot more on the family front than seeing a dumb, drunk naked guy.

It's not like he was threatening anyone or putting someone else in harm's way.

If he's not trying to fight off the cops when they catch him, a taser seems to me to be an extreme reaction, nowhere near a proportional consequence.

Of course if a demo derby promised that at least one streaker would be tasered at every show ... well who can say no to that kind of marketing?

westofyou
08-04-2005, 12:42 PM
It's not like he was threatening anyone or putting someone else in harm's way.

This is my rifle, this is my gun.

One is fighting the other for fun.

dsmith421
08-04-2005, 12:47 PM
So you're cool with indecent exposure and disorderly conduct (BTW - both are crimes), but you don't want people to see the consequences of committing those crimes?

Fair enough. Takes all kinds, I guess.

I assume you'll be happy to accept a tasering the next time you exceed the speed limit, fail to stop competely at a stop sign, or spit on the sidewalk (all crimes). That attitude is ridiculous.

With that said, I think the cops' action here was justified. Read a little more into this and you'll see the streaker was brandishing a fire extinguisher and discharging it into the crowd, and then turned it on the cops. Then you have resisting arrest, and arguably assaulting an officer. At that point, I think the cops have enough justification to use this level of force. But tasering a totally non-violent streaker? That's wrong.

I am especially sensitive to this crap because of an incident that happened when I was in college. UD is known to get pretty rowdy on Homecoming and on this particular one, someone came roaring around a corner in the Ghetto in the alltogether, immediately sparking immense roars of approval from the drinkers on both sides of the streets. The campus rent-a-cops proceeded to knock the guy down, smash him against the curb, handcuff him, and then, when they realized the kid's jaw was broken, left him naked and bleeding in the lawn of the Marianist Brothers house, who brought him some towels and called the ambulance. That was totally unnecessary on the part of the cops and is an unpleasant memory for me, even though I didn't know the kid.

I think cops ought to be given the benefit of the doubt a lot of the time, especially when dealing with violent offenders. But there is no need to use violence in a case like this (absent the circumstances noted above), any more than it's necessary to beat up speeders.

Johnny Footstool
08-04-2005, 01:45 PM
I assume you'll be happy to accept a tasering the next time you exceed the speed limit, fail to stop competely at a stop sign, or spit on the sidewalk (all crimes). That attitude is ridiculous.

Apples and oranges -- that logic doesn't apply. The guy was eluding the police. If I was pulled over for speeding, then suddenly got out of my car and ran, I'd expect to be hit with a taser.


The campus rent-a-cops proceeded to knock the guy down, smash him against the curb, handcuff him, and then, when they realized the kid's jaw was broken, left him naked and bleeding in the lawn of the Marianist Brothers house, who brought him some towels and called the ambulance. That was totally unnecessary on the part of the cops and is an unpleasant memory for me, even though I didn't know the kid.

You're right, that was totally unnecessary. It was also a lot worse than the tasering, which won't break your bones or make you bleed.

Jaycint
08-04-2005, 02:36 PM
Hmmmm...curly hair, streaking. It's all coming together now. It was this quy...

http://www.nndb.com/people/096/000026018/will-ferrell-sized.jpg

We're going streaking! Lets go come on everybody, we're going streaking!

http://prodtn.cafepress.com/6/21951636_F_tn.jpg

I'm not the only one that thought that movie was hilarious, right?

Anybody else think Will Ferrell and Adam Dunn were separated at birth?

RosieRed
08-04-2005, 02:55 PM
Streaking aside, I think demolition derbies are great fun.

PickOff
08-04-2005, 03:01 PM
Didn't hear about the fire exstingisher involved in the incident. I do beleive in this case that the tasering was justified, and actually the perfect response to the incident.

If the man was naked and not carrying anything potentially harmful, however, I would be firmly opposed to the use of the taser.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2005, 03:02 PM
I think naked man tasering would make for a great rodeo event.

Figure 8 races are fun to watch as well.

In college, we would have session where we would ingest alcohol and many other, uh, substances into the wee hours. We called them demo derbies.

M2
08-04-2005, 03:09 PM
Streaking aside, I think demolition derbies are great fun.

I love 'em too. They're insanely fun.

Johnny Footstool
08-04-2005, 03:33 PM
They have one every year at the Johnson County fair just south of here. No alcohol served, but the event is still awesome. I especially like the compact car derby -- the cars are quicker and more agile. Guys with front-wheel drive usually win.

halcyon
08-05-2005, 02:12 AM
Did you make it into that Cowboy Bar? that place is a gem.


I wish that we had. The party that I was traveling with was not into the bar scene...we glanced in there as a possible dinner option and they decided it was too "saloon-y" or something of that nature. I thought about going back out there one evening after everyone settled in for the nite, but I'm not the type of guy who goes in a place to eat or drink alone so I wimped out.