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CTA513
08-02-2005, 06:00 PM
Reds Braves
1. R Freel, 2B 1. R Furcal, SS
2. F Lopez, SS 2. M Giles, 2B
3. K Griffey Jr., CF 3. C Jones, 3B
4. A Dunn, LF 4. A Jones, CF
5. S Casey, 1B 5. A LaRoche, 1B
6. W Pena, RF 6. K Johnson, LF
7. J LaRue, C 7. J Francoeur, RF
8. E Encarnacion, 3B 8. B McCann, C
9. R Ortiz, P 9. J Sosa, P

Game Time: 7:10 p.m. ET
TV: FSN Ohio
Radio: WLW 700

Puffy
08-02-2005, 06:01 PM
Kearns must still be nursing his hammy.

Boy, that could be taken the wrong way!

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 06:02 PM
C. Jones at 3rd?

Pull the ball. Often. And bunt.

Puffy
08-02-2005, 06:05 PM
By the way, switch Pena and Casey, and thats one fine looking lineup. As it is, it ain't too bad.

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 06:05 PM
Move Pena up 1 spot and it's perfect.

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 06:08 PM
Puffy stop reading my mind.

LvJ
08-02-2005, 06:15 PM
Good lineup. Will read again. A+++


;)

RedsIn07
08-02-2005, 06:23 PM
Quick Poll:
How many runs will Ortiz give up in his "unlucky" 1st inning?
Then how many innings will he go before giving up another run?

Casey_21
08-02-2005, 06:26 PM
O.K... Now I'm mad, Where's Aurillia!?!?!?!?!? ;)

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:felo: + :freel: - :aurilia: = :rant2: Cincinnati Enquirer :fineprint

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 06:28 PM
O.K... Now I'm mad, Where's Aurillia!?!?!?!?!? ;)

_______________________________________

:felo: + :freel: - :aurilia: = :rant2: Cincinnati Enquirer :fineprint

Hopefully DFA :evil:

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 06:37 PM
I love that finally we can say "thats not a bad lineup"..

It may have taken a while to get there with Narron, but at least he got there... heh.

HBP
08-02-2005, 06:40 PM
Will Rich actually shed tears tonight?

SirFelixCat
08-02-2005, 06:41 PM
Can not really argue too much with the lineup. Let's hope Ortiz makes it thru the 1st unscathed and watch our boys show up :beerme:

Gainesville Red
08-02-2005, 06:43 PM
Can anyone else believe how good the Braves are? I mean look how young their lineup is. Unbelievable. When I was younger I remember hating the Braves. Now all I have for them is respect.

Casey_21
08-02-2005, 06:45 PM
Can not really argue too much with the lineup. Let's hope Ortiz makes it thru the 1st unscathed and watch our boys show up :beerme:

Hey now... no worries. As long as our boys can put up 8+ runs, we will be fine. :bang:

pedro
08-02-2005, 06:45 PM
Kearns must still be nursing his hammy.

Boy, that could be taken the wrong way!

from the land of sky blue water.

http://www.lock-man.com/catalog/images/hamms.jpg

jesusfan
08-02-2005, 06:46 PM
I guess we will hear the Aurilia bellyaching after tonights game...

Casey_21
08-02-2005, 06:50 PM
Yeah... Rich off 3 nights in a row??? Hmmmmm... lets see.. Rich.. :cry: .. is there a little simularity there??? Whoaa... I think there is. -Uncle Buck, Re-Worded. :D

Casey_21
08-02-2005, 06:59 PM
Ok guys, it's like midnight here, and I'm off to bed. GO CINCY!!! :beerme:

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:02 PM
Ok guys, it's like midnight here, and I'm off to bed. GO CINCY!!! :beerme:

LOL.. where the heck are you? London? :beerme:

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:07 PM
Today will be ortiz's first outing of the year where he doesnt allow any runs

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:10 PM
Ball one and we are underway!

RedsManRick
08-02-2005, 07:10 PM
I agree with Tornon...

... back spasm in the 2nd.

RBA
08-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Lead off Walk. :(

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Furcal walks to lead off the game

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Walking Furcal is definitely not a good start to this game for Ortiz.

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:12 PM
jason with a great throw to gun down furcal!

RBA
08-02-2005, 07:12 PM
Larue guns em down trying to steal :)

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:13 PM
and giles with a single up the middle

zombie-a-go-go
08-02-2005, 07:13 PM
Nice CS by LaRue, there. Can't remember the last time I saw that.

RBA
08-02-2005, 07:13 PM
Base hit/single.

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:13 PM
Looks like a 4 million dollar catcher to me :thumbup:

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:15 PM
and chipper lines a double in to RF to score a run

jesusfan
08-02-2005, 07:15 PM
double by chipper and giles scores... ortiz cmon

RBA
08-02-2005, 07:15 PM
DOUBLE, 1-0 BRAVES :(

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:16 PM
Ortiz is just flat out terrible in the 1st inning of games. He's lucky larue gunned down furcal or it'd be 2 - 0

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:16 PM
andruw flies out to DEEP center

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:17 PM
Was it to the warning track Tornon?

butlerbulldogs
08-02-2005, 07:18 PM
yea, it was to the track....griffey drops a fly ball and chipper scores

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:18 PM
junior cant catch laroche's flyball and chipper scores

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 07:18 PM
Wow...that's rare

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:19 PM
that was an error

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:19 PM
What happened on the drop by Jr? Was it a tough catch? I don't see an error on the Gameday board

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:19 PM
It's been scored a double, it wasn't an easy play for junior

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:20 PM
Junior went running after a ball into the gap, he got to it but it bounced out of his glove

butlerbulldogs
08-02-2005, 07:20 PM
it hit off his glove, should have been caught

Fullboat
08-02-2005, 07:20 PM
I'll take 2 runs. :thumbup:

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:21 PM
Man, is there anyone out there desperate (or dumb) enough to take Ortiz off our hands in a waiver deal? I'm all for giving Germano or Hancock or even Serrano his starts from here on out.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:21 PM
it wasn't an easy play because he went a long way. He reached out at shoulder level, ball hit in the middle of his glove and he dropped it.

butlerbulldogs
08-02-2005, 07:21 PM
i am happy to see it scored a hit, another run won't hurt ortiz's era, but it would hurt griffeys fielding pctg.

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:21 PM
Johnson grounds out to first to end the inning

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 07:21 PM
The hard part was getting to the ball, which griffey did quite well. He got his glove on it and dropped it.

In total not an easy play, but one you expect Griffey to make.

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:22 PM
the reds are about to tie it up here

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Man, is there anyone out there desperate (or dumb) enough to take Ortiz off our hands in a waiver deal? I'm all for giving Germano or Hancock or even Serrano his starts from here on out.

Lately, someone says that in the first inning of every game Ortiz starts.

Lets hope the rest is like it has been lately.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:23 PM
people would be all over WMP if he had made that play. It was an error, ball hit right in his glove.

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:23 PM
Freel with a long flyout to right .. he almost got it

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:23 PM
Why can't D0 get an arm like Sosa for an Anderson Machado? :D

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:24 PM
Lopez hits one down the line but LaRoche gets to it and throws him out.. 2 out no one on

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:24 PM
Ugh, what is it with Ortiz and 1st innings?

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:26 PM
Griffey walks.. Dunn comes up to the plate to hit a home run

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Exhibit 9,234,985 of Mazzone's genius: Jorge Sosa. How did he get that turd to sparkle?

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:27 PM
This is the beauty of hitting Dunn behind JR

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:29 PM
Dunn flies to center. Inning over, Braves 2 Reds 0 after 1

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 07:31 PM
Looks like Dunn swung at ball 4.

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:31 PM
Francoueur leads off the 2nd with a single to left

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:32 PM
McCann singles to right and here we go again. 1st & 2nd no one out

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 07:32 PM
Welcome to the big leagues, Reds.

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:32 PM
Ortiz starting his second 1st inning.

Gallen5862
08-02-2005, 07:32 PM
Hi. Had to reload AOl. What is the score and what inning?

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:32 PM
Sosa with the successful sac bunt

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:33 PM
The braves are up 2-0 in the top of the 2nd

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:33 PM
Looks like Dunn swung at ball 4.

OBM, he's here to drive in runs, not take a walk!!!! :rolleyes:

zombie-a-go-go
08-02-2005, 07:34 PM
That Braves offense ain't half-bad. :explode:

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:34 PM
Furcal walks, bases loaded 1 out for giles

zombie-a-go-go
08-02-2005, 07:34 PM
Or maybe Ortiz is just stanky.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Ortiz actually is the 2nd most consistent starter in the NL(from BP). The most consistent is Clemens. Of course in the case of Ortiz, he has been consistently bad.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Its getting ugly up in hur!

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Ortiz doesn't look like he has a clue where the ball is going right now

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Giles shoots a single to left. 3-0 braves bases still loaded with 1 out for chipper

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Looks like Dunn swung at ball 4.actually I thought it would have been strike three.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Ortiz doesn't look like he has a clue where the ball is going right nowor just about any other time. :help:

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Ortiz doesn't look like he has a clue where the ball is going right now

The Braves a pretty fair idea, it seems.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 07:36 PM
In my opinion, we are better off in the long run if Ortiz pitches horribly the rest of the season. If he pitches well, then O'Brien has an excuse to resign him.

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:36 PM
C'mon chipper, hit a Casey!

FlyingPig
08-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Can a manager walk out to the mound, take the baseball, and say "you've been designated for assignment?"

:bang:

Tornon
08-02-2005, 07:37 PM
Lined down the RF line.. 2 run double for chipper

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:37 PM
I didn't say hit it BY Casey!

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:37 PM
That was a much easier play than Laroche made in the first inning.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
Welcome back to reality

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
That was a much easier play than Laroche made in the first inning.

Yeah I thought Casey had it.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
That Braves offense ain't half-bad. :explode:

They're going to brain the Cards pitching in the playoffs.

smith288
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
Welcome to MLB reds. The Pacific Coast League this isnt.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
Can a manager walk out to the mound, take the baseball, and say "you've been designated for assignment?"

:bang:certainly Germano could not be worse.

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:38 PM
It's just so frustrating to watch Ortiz not even give his team a CHANCE to win in 90% of his outings :thumbdown

Gallen5862
08-02-2005, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the scoring update.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:39 PM
So much for "I believe" heh.. when we play a REAL team our REAL colors show..

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:40 PM
It's just so frustrating to watch Ortiz not even give his team a CHANCE to win in 90% of his outings :thumbdown

Agreed with you 100% - Ortiz is worthless in terms of what he brings to the ballclub.

SteelSD
08-02-2005, 07:40 PM
Four Outs.

Seven Hits.

Five Runs.

Nine Baserunners.

Ramon Ortiz.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:40 PM
It's just so frustrating to watch Ortiz not even give his team a CHANCE to win in 90% of his outings :thumbdown2nd most consistent starter in the NL :help:

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:41 PM
Keisler in for Ortiz, what a joke for an outing that was.

CTA513
08-02-2005, 07:41 PM
Everyone dont worry, Ortiz will make his next start.

:thumbup:

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:41 PM
I'd be chanting D-F-A, D-F-A

Playadlc
08-02-2005, 07:42 PM
That was one of the worst outing I have seen all year by any pitcher in baseball. He got four outs. A towering bomb to CF, a line shot to 1B, a caught stealing and something else.

God, he sucks.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:43 PM
Keisler in for Ortiz, what a joke for an outing that was.

Remember when the reds were down like 6-0 in the 1st to Tampa and Keisler came in and was lights out and we came back and won it? This game is still in reach I suppose, but damn. As soon as we play good competition we suddenly look like the Padres or Dodgers..

Reds Lite anyone?

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:44 PM
So much for "I believe" heh.. when we play a REAL team our REAL colors show..at least the pitching does.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 07:44 PM
In my opinion, we are better off in the long run if Ortiz pitches horribly the rest of the season. If he pitches well, then O'Brien has an excuse to resign him.

True.

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 07:44 PM
The Reds can easily DFA Ramon. Ramon is the type of pitcher, either he overcomes his early inning struggles or he gets bombed. Most of the time, he overcomes them to go 6 innings, but he will have these start 2-3 times a month were he gets the living crap beat out of him early in the game.

With Germano needing experience on the major league level, I suspect he is as good as Ortiz now, maybe better. Germano is also 1/2 of the Randa deal so DanO doesn't have a problem trying to polish him up for next season.

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2005, 07:44 PM
This reminds me of a Jerry Reuss outing from 1987.

Or a Joey hamilton special of 2001? or was it 2002?

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:44 PM
He got four outs. A towering bomb to CF, a line shot to 1B, a caught stealing and something else.... a sac bunt.

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:45 PM
In my opinion, we are better off in the long run if Ortiz pitches horribly the rest of the season. If he pitches well, then O'Brien has an excuse to resign him.

Considering his salary figure, I see no reason at all for the Reds to pick up the option for him, virtually no matter how he pitches the last couple of months.

I don't see a place for him next year if they can avoid it. Milton, Harang and Claussen are higher in the rotation plans than Ortiz. Surely they can acquire at least one better rotation candidate and there are several younger arms in the minors I'd rather see with the opportunity for the last spot. Ortiz makes too much to be a bullpen arm either.

Please tell me though that the option is not a mutual one where he can decide to return on his own.

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:46 PM
at least the pitching does.

Exactly. I'd say the true colors of 1/2 the team are showing tonight. But unfortunately, that 1/2 of the roster is responsible for far more than 1/2 of this team's losses :bang:

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:46 PM
at least the pitching does.

Aint dat da Truff! Amen.

NC Reds
08-02-2005, 07:46 PM
I would have rather watched Dustin Moseley every fifth start this year than Ortiz.

Ortiz was pathetic tonight. He had NOTHING.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:47 PM
there has never been a trade that screamed to be made more than Jr to the Braves.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:48 PM
any kind of throw and he would have been out by 10 feet

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 07:49 PM
Remember when the reds were down like 6-0 in the 1st to Tampa and Keisler came in and was lights out and we came back and won it?




Tampa Bay this ain't...

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:50 PM
WMP swings at 2 balls and takes 1 strike. UGH

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 07:50 PM
pull the string and watch him swing

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:50 PM
there has never been a trade that screamed to be made more than Jr to the Braves.

Yeah, too bad we couldn't send em Griffey for Franceour. Especially with how well he's(Franceour) risen to the the challenge of MLB.

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 07:51 PM
WMP swings at 2 balls and takes 1 strike. UGH

No he didn't. He missed a strike and took a strike.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:51 PM
Tampa Bay this ain't...

True enough, but this IS Jorge Sosa on the mound.. c'mon!

wheels
08-02-2005, 07:51 PM
Thad Motta just came into my shop.

Just thought I'd throw that out there....

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 07:53 PM
Thad Motta just came into my shop.

Just thought I'd throw that out there....

Who? I'm old. Help an oldster.

smith288
08-02-2005, 07:53 PM
Thad Motta just came into my shop.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.... Droppin names??? I thought you were better than that!

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:53 PM
Yeah, too bad we couldn't send em Griffey for Franceour. Especially with how well he's(Franceour) risen to the the challenge of MLB.I was approaching it simply for the fact that the Braves need a good experienced bat out there come playoff time. I wouldn't want to count on Francoeur and Johnson.

smith288
08-02-2005, 07:53 PM
OSU buckeyes head B-ball coach

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 07:54 PM
Good grief. Someone needs to tell EE to turn his head when Pena is batting; EE swung at three horrible pitches in this atbat.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:54 PM
All pitches to EE in the dirt and he K's.. Ooooff!

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 07:54 PM
Who? I'm old. Help an oldster.

He's the basketball coach for my beloved Buckeyes :beerme:

dsmith421
08-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Who? I'm old. Help an oldster.

Savior of Ohio State basketball

(OR)

Lying traitor who left Xavier in the lurch

smith288
08-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Good grief. Someone needs to tell EE to turn his head when Pena is batting; EE swung at two horrible pitches in this atbat. "See Edwin, that is how NOT to approach an at bat...Now turn away and cover your eyes."

smith288
08-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Savior of Ohio State basketball

(OR)

Lying traitor who left Xavier in the lurch Hmm bitter as a green apple are we? ;)

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 07:56 PM
This reminds me of a Jerry Reuss outing from 1987.



Waht really pissed me off about Reuss, was as bad as he pitched for us in 1987. he pitched really well the next year, but for someone else.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 07:56 PM
I was approaching it simply for the fact that the Braves need a good experienced bat out there come playoff time. I wouldn't want to count on Francoeur and Johnson.

Neither would I, but I sure wouldn't mind getting a Franceour type player back for Griffey.. :P The kid is going to be awesome. He works too hard and has way too much makeup. He's got team leader written all over him.

Braves are going to be stacked for a very long time.

Marte/Franceour/McCann/Betemit/Giles/ is a pretty good young core. Not even mentioning the Jones Bros. :P

flyer85
08-02-2005, 07:56 PM
Reds aren't going to catch up by swinging at balls way out of the strike zone.

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2005, 07:57 PM
EE's holes are showing. Mini-Pena in that AB.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 07:58 PM
That was the worst inning by the Reds offense all season. Did Pena, EE, and Keisler take a pitch out of the strikezone?

dsmith421
08-02-2005, 07:59 PM
Hmm bitter as a green apple are we? ;)

I didn't say which one I believed!

(As it stands, I am an XU fan and didn't blame him, but could have stood for a little less of the "I would never leave Xavier" when you're negotiating a contract somewhere else. I'm an idealist like that.)

smith288
08-02-2005, 07:59 PM
Reds aren't going to catch up by swinging at balls way out of the strike zone. That happens when you force your sluggers to press during every at bat after watching your pitcher put the ball on t's for the opponent.

They should be more diciplined but I can imagine how frustrating that is.

smith288
08-02-2005, 08:00 PM
I didn't say which one I believed!

(As it stands, I am an XU fan and didn't blame him, but could have stood for a little less of the "I would never leave Xavier" when you're negotiating a contract somewhere else. I'm an idealist like that.) :p: Didnt say "you"... said "we"

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 08:00 PM
EE kept on guessing fastball, but it never came. Pena should have gone oppo field on that first pitch fastball, that is why I worry about his legs/bat speed. He couldn't catch up to it.

FlyingPig
08-02-2005, 08:02 PM
Heck, I'd start Keisler and see what he has..

He swings a pretty good bat for a pitcher..

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:02 PM
EE kept on guessing fastball, but it never came. Pena should have gone oppo field on that first pitch fastball, that is why I worry about his legs/bat speed. He couldn't catch up to it.Pena swung and missed a first pitch slider.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:02 PM
Why is it that every time the Reds play the Braves only the Braves seem to be prepared, ready, studied up?

The Reds just look constantly rocked back on their heels against the Braves.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 08:02 PM
EE's holes are showing. Mini-Pena in that AB.

But atleast EE did flash solid knowledge of the strikezone in the minors(2005-BB/8.8 AB, Career-10.8) vs Pena(13.6 minors, majors-16.8).

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 08:04 PM
Pena swung and missed a first pitch slider.

Doesn't matter. It was in the zone. Pena should have crushed it to rightfield.

Fullboat
08-02-2005, 08:07 PM
I'm old enough to remember when we used to own this team. :(

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:07 PM
Heck, even the Braves scrubs are getting a wide strike zone.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:08 PM
Doesn't matter. It was in the zone. Pena should have crushed it to rightfield.only if he was looking for it and waited back on it. WMP doesn't seem to have a thought process at the plate.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:10 PM
Braves - late first round draft an great athlete like Francoeur. Reds - take a lesser athlete in the middle of the first round in Bruce.

Just an example of why they are where they are.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:11 PM
Welsh talked about how WMP faced Sosa in winter ball and all Sosa throws him is sliders. Kinda figured he should have been lookin for it

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:12 PM
Welsh talked about how WMP faced Sosa in winter ball and all Sosa throws him is sliders. Kinda figured he should have been lookin for it

Sosa'a smart. Would YOU throw Pena a fastball?

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:13 PM
Again, Sosa gets a ball wide called a strike.

pedro
08-02-2005, 08:13 PM
Braves announcers haven't told me how many K's Dunn has yet.. I'm perplexed.

They did say that they had read that he projected to have 710 HR's in his career if he stayed healthy.

"Good Hitter" they said.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 08:14 PM
Was that one almost outta here?

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:14 PM
Braves announcers haven't told me how many K's Dunn has yet.. I'm perplexed.

They did say that they had read that he projected to have 710 HR's in his career if he stayed healthy.

"Good Hitter" they said.

Good hitter who should be on first, but because it's the Braves ball 3 is a strike.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:15 PM
Hoard pointed out that Dunn gets criticized for the thing Bonds get praised for.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 08:15 PM
Again Dunn gets ahead in the count 3-1 and swings at a pitch that appeared to be in the dirt. Next pitched looked low too and flies out. I hope the people that wanted Dunn to expand his zone are happy. He should have two walks in this game. I have no clue why he is swinging at that crap.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:16 PM
Again Dunn gets ahead in the count 3-1 and swings at a pitch that appeared to be in the dirt. Next pitched looked low too and flies out. I hope the people that wanted Dunn to expand his zone are happy. He should have two walks in this game. I have no clue why he is swinging at that crap.

Strike 1 was a ball in the last AB.

gitrdunn44
08-02-2005, 08:16 PM
Pena swing at strikes! Expect a slider!

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:17 PM
WMP at least showed he learned something

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 08:18 PM
WMP with a walk! Holy CRAP!

Playadlc
08-02-2005, 08:18 PM
DId Wily Mo really just walk? Am I awake?

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:18 PM
Hey, tip your cap. Pena adjusted.

OSURedLeg
08-02-2005, 08:18 PM
Here's about as good of a chance as we'll get to make this game close again. Bases juiced with 2 down as Larue steps up

Playadlc
08-02-2005, 08:19 PM
That was the worst strike call I have seen all year.

That's disgraceful.

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 08:19 PM
That almost hit him.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:19 PM
Ball 2 :rolleyes:

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 08:19 PM
This ump needs to be rung himself, horrid call.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:20 PM
Again Dunn gets ahead in the count 3-1 and swings at a pitch that appeared to be in the dirt. Next pitched looked low too and flies out. I hope the people that wanted Dunn to expand his zone are happy. He should have two walks on this game. I have no clue why he is swinging at that crap.on strike two he got fooled on a 3-1 slider and check swung. The 3-2 slider was thigh high and caught a lot of the plate. Dunn just missed it.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 08:20 PM
I think they just called that second pitch a strike......

Playadlc
08-02-2005, 08:20 PM
That almost hit him.

Yeah, I'd probably get tossed over that.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:20 PM
that 1-0 pitch to Larue wasn;t even close

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:21 PM
This ump needs to be rung himself, horrid call.

Hey baby, it's Hotlanta--they never walk batters. So it MUST be a strike.

cincyinco
08-02-2005, 08:21 PM
Dangit Rusty!

CTA513
08-02-2005, 08:22 PM
Larue needs to let one of Keisler fastballs go through and hit the up.

Ravenlord
08-02-2005, 08:22 PM
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Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 08:22 PM
Yippee! When we finally chase Sosa, we get to contend with their bullpen!! Yee-haw.

oregonred
08-02-2005, 08:26 PM
This reminds me of a Jerry Reuss outing from 1987.

Or a Joey hamilton special of 2001? or was it 2002?


:laugh:

Or...
Orca Anderson 2004
Jeff Austin 2004
Jimmy Haynes 2004
Jose Acevedo 2004
Paul Wilson 2005
Eric Milton (w/Gullett) 2005
etc
etc
etc

Ortiz gets a 250K buy out option if he hits 30 starts and I think 100K for 20 starts. Let's see if the Reds are smart enough to save themselves some change...

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 08:29 PM
EdE throws away the 3rd out...

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:31 PM
interesting to note that Sosa is anything BUT "pitch to contact".

oregonred
08-02-2005, 08:31 PM
On the good news front, Casey looks to be heating up at the plate. Trade value increasing by the day...

August OPS = 2.500 :)

corkedbat
08-02-2005, 08:33 PM
was that welsh slammin DO
LOL

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:35 PM
Reason to start Keisler over Ortiz - at least he can hit

deltachi8
08-02-2005, 08:35 PM
interesting to note that Sosa is anything BUT "pitch to contact".

why do i throw up a little but in my mouth ever time i hear the words "pitch to contact?"

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:35 PM
Chipper just seperated his shoulder

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Jones didn't look too chipper on that play.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Chipper is down.

Aurilia is available :evil:

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:36 PM
looks like his right one as well

FlyingPig
08-02-2005, 08:37 PM
2 thoughts...


Chipper Jones is fragile..


amd Randy Keisler can handle a bat..

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:38 PM
Put Keisler in the rotation ... afterall if your pitchers can't pitch at least send ones out there that can hit

deltachi8
08-02-2005, 08:39 PM
so who were the first 7 names placed on waivers? any guesses?

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:40 PM
Reds have made a bunch of hard outs

Heath
08-02-2005, 08:41 PM
Moving on in the MLB EI package I get the ever-colorful Charley Steiner broadcasting the Dodgers-Nationals. Talk about two teams that are very similar....

PuffyPig
08-02-2005, 08:41 PM
That first strike to Lopez (2nd pitch) was "lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut".

Credit ...Jed Clampett

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:42 PM
so who were the first 7 names placed on waivers? any guesses?Casey, Griffey, Ortiz, Milton, Aurilia, Weathers, Mercker

CTA513
08-02-2005, 08:42 PM
Put Keisler in the rotation ... afterall if your pitchers can't pitch at least send ones out there that can hit

He can also go 2 innings with out giving up 23 runs.

:evil:

gitrdunn44
08-02-2005, 08:44 PM
Let's get McCann's can :D

gitrdunn44
08-02-2005, 08:45 PM
oops 2 run bomb

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:45 PM
Sickening to realize that the Braves prospects 11-15 would be 2-6 for the Reds

Heath
08-02-2005, 08:46 PM
ooo boy - Steve "Psycho" Lyons on the Dodgers...change....

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 08:46 PM
EE is having a bad day.

Aurilia is probably laughing and complaining that if he were in the game, those wouldn't be happening....

gitrdunn44
08-02-2005, 08:46 PM
EE with another error.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:46 PM
He can also go 2 innings with out giving up 23 runs.

:evil:Keisler is nothing special as a pitcher. Mopup duty is his proper role.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 08:47 PM
EE is having a bad day.
seems like he is taking the poor ABs to the field with him. He is only 22.

SteelSD
08-02-2005, 08:47 PM
This game is stupid.

That is all.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 08:48 PM
seems like he is taking the poor ABs to the field with him. He is only 22.

Yes he is. He needs to keep playing and learning

Heath
08-02-2005, 08:51 PM
Here's Tim McClelland's strike zone as seen by Jorge Sosa....


http://www.factsontheback.com/images/astronomy/earth.jpg

:rolleyes: :alien:

smith288
08-02-2005, 08:51 PM
This game is stupid.

That is all. You are a poet with your posts. This being one of your most poetic.

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 08:51 PM
Keisler simply isn't a starting pitcher. Germano is going to be up here soon enough.

Heath
08-02-2005, 08:52 PM
EE is having a bad day.

Aurilia is probably laughing and complaining that if he were in the game, those wouldn't be happening....

Yeah, it would be still 9-1... :rolleyes:

Hey, Richie...take your glove and go home. No, seriously.

WVRedsFan
08-02-2005, 08:53 PM
was that welsh slammin DO
LOL

I've been quiet tonight because I used up all my weekly post allotments over the weekend, but I gotta say this...one of the reasons for lack of attendance at these games has to be the broadcast crews.

Twice tonight, Welsh has used the talent of one of the opposition players to give a back handed complement to the home team. Just awhile ago, Lopez made a good play. Of course, Welsh was commenting on the batter's tremendous arm just before the play (is this the only place in the universe where the home broadcast teams spends so much time praising the opposition?). After Lopez' play, Welsh says, "there's another guy with a pretty good arm--oh not as good as (blanks), but pretty good," once again reminding the local fan base that the home team is inferior.

In having watched baseball from nearly every team over the past five years with Extra Innings, I've never seen this anywhere else. Yes, Scully constantly talks on the Dodger broadcasts and tells interesting tidbits about opposition players, you'll never hear that from him. Welsh just continuously talks. I guess since George is gone the Creeper had to take up the slack of reminding us how good others are?

Sorry for the rant. Back to lurking.

deltachi8
08-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Casey, Griffey, Ortiz, Milton, Aurilia, Weathers, Mercker

my seven as well.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Yeah, it would be still 9-1... :rolleyes:

Hey, Richie...take your glove and go home. No, seriously.

Can't argue that..but you know he is...

pedro
08-02-2005, 08:57 PM
The Braves announcers just said Sean Casey couldn't out run Long John Silver

What does that mean? Did he have a peg leg?

They also said he couldn't run out of sight in two days.

GAC
08-02-2005, 08:58 PM
Just got back home. Looks like the Braves have brought the Reds (and Ramon) back to earth. ;)

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:00 PM
The Braves announcers just said Sean Casey couldn't out run Long John Silver

What does that mean? Did he have a peg leg?Doesn't have a peg leg ... but if he did I doubt it would slow him down any.

pedro
08-02-2005, 09:00 PM
They don't like WMP very much. they think the Reds should flip him to the AL before everyone figures out that he'll never learn to take a walk.

CTA513
08-02-2005, 09:01 PM
Keisler is nothing special as a pitcher. Mopup duty is his proper role.

If Keisler isnt anything, then what is Ortiz and why is he a starter?

:devil:

GAC
08-02-2005, 09:02 PM
Maybe they should change our pitcher's name to Keister...'cause that is where we're taking it! :lol:

Heath
08-02-2005, 09:02 PM
The Braves announcers just said Sean Casey couldn't out run Long John Silver

What does that mean? Did he have a peg leg?

They also said he couldn't run out of sight in two days.

Who are the Braves' announcers tonight?

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 09:02 PM
Pedro...sounds like those Braves announcers are pretty good. Who are they? Does Sutton still broadcast for them?

RFS62
08-02-2005, 09:02 PM
They don't like WMP very much. they think the Reds should flip him to the AL before everyone figures out that he'll never learn to take a walk.


Free Wily

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:03 PM
If Keisler isnt anything, then what is Ortiz and why is he a starter?

:devil:a black hole :runawaycr

WVRedsFan
08-02-2005, 09:04 PM
The Braves announcers just said Sean Casey couldn't out run Long John Silver

What does that mean? Did he have a peg leg?

They also said he couldn't run out of sight in two days.

If Casey played for the Braves, Welsh or Grande would be talking about how wonderful he was and how he could hit to all fields. There's the difference.

Uh oh. I'm supposed to be lurking. Sorry.

pedro
08-02-2005, 09:04 PM
Pedro...sounds like those Braves announcers are pretty good. Who are they? Does Sutton still broadcast for them?

Don Sutton & Pete Van Weiren

SteelSD
08-02-2005, 09:05 PM
BTW, it'll be lost in this 9-1 thumping, but did anyone else notice that Dunn took a really good route to snag the last out of that Inning?

Heath
08-02-2005, 09:06 PM
Sixth-place watch - Its San Diego 6, Pittsburgh 3 top 6

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:07 PM
BTW, it'll be lost in this 9-1 thumping, but did anyone else notice that Dunn took a really good route to snag the last out of that Inning?optical illusion :mooner:

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2005, 09:07 PM
Don Sutton & Pete Van Weiren

Thanks.

I always thought Sutton did a fine job broadcasting games on TBS.

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 09:07 PM
Today will be ortiz's first outing of the year where he doesnt allow any runs

This was the first post I saw when I opened this thread just now


;)

Heath
08-02-2005, 09:10 PM
This was the first post I saw when I opened this thread just now


;)

Krono....you missed the last part

...in the third inning ;)

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 09:11 PM
Defensive changes:

Griffey - Right Bench
Freel - CF
Olmedo - 2B
Aurilia - Left Bench

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 09:13 PM
Would it be bad form to go bump those "are we still in it?" threads? :evil:

Gainesville Red
08-02-2005, 09:14 PM
God the Padres suck.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 09:14 PM
Encarnacion is having an awful night

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Gotta stick with EE no matter what.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 09:15 PM
I agree. Just pointing it out...

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:21 PM
coffey just never changes the eye level of hitters

KronoRed
08-02-2005, 09:22 PM
They be beating the snot out of us.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2005, 09:22 PM
This game can just stop now and I would not be upset...

Heath
08-02-2005, 09:26 PM
Well...they did miss the two-point conversion.....

KittyDuran
08-02-2005, 09:26 PM
Score: Braves 12 - Reds 1 [bottom of the 7th]

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:28 PM
Germano 7IP 8H 3ER 0BB 6K

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:30 PM
Chick 6IP 6H 4ER 3BB 4K 2HR

Heath
08-02-2005, 09:30 PM
i think i see Rich Aurilia warming up in the Cincinnati bullpen.

If not, why is Luke Hudson running???

Aronchis
08-02-2005, 09:31 PM
Germano had a horrid first inning, but bounced back nicely.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2005, 09:32 PM
Germano had a horrid first inning, but bounced back nicely.

Sort of like Ramon....uh. Never mind.

flyer85
08-02-2005, 09:33 PM
Bailey 4IP 3H 0ER 2BB 6K

ochre
08-02-2005, 09:34 PM
is that a productive out?
:)