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CTA513
08-05-2005, 07:15 PM
Reds Marlins
1. R Freel, 2B 1. J Pierre, CF
2. F Lopez, SS 2. L Castillo, 2B
3. K Griffey Jr., CF 3. J Conine, 1B
4. A Kearns, RF 4. M Cabrera, LF
5. S Casey, 1B 5. P Lo Duca, C
6. A Dunn, LF 6. M Lowell, 3B
7. J LaRue, C 7. C Aguila, RF
8. E Encarnacion, 3B 8. A Gonzalez, SS
9. E Milton, P 9. J Vargas, P

Game Time: 7:10 p.m. ET
TV: FSN Ohio
Radio: WLW 700

gitrdunn44
08-05-2005, 07:16 PM
FLORIDA MARLINS
Hitters AB R H BI BB K LO AVG
J. Pierre CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
L. Castillo 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .310
J. Conine 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
M. Cabrera LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .355
P. Lo Duca C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308
M. Lowell 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .237
C. Aguila RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
A. Gonzalez SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .275
J. Vargas P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Totals 0
CINCINNATI REDS
Hitters AB R H BI BB K LO AVG
R. Freel 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
F. Lopez SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .290
K. Griffey Jr. CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .284
A. Kearns RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .237
S. Casey 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
A. Dunn LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256
J. LaRue C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
E. Encarnacion 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .236
E. Milton P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .179
Totals 0

paintmered
08-05-2005, 07:20 PM
gitrdunn, either you are truly prophetic and you know tomorrow's lineup, or you just got today's date wrong in your thread title. :laugh:

Either way, we've condensed to a single thread.

CTA513
08-05-2005, 07:22 PM
Aurilia hasnt played in about 4 games? someone should interview him and see what he says about not playing. ;)

creek14
08-05-2005, 07:23 PM
Aurilia hasnt played in about 4 games? someone should interview him and see what he says about not playing. ;)
And with each game RA sits, I like JN more and more (even if Casey is hitting in front of Adam).

Gallen5862
08-05-2005, 07:28 PM
We could be telling RA we don't want to risk getting him hurt so we can trade him. :thumbup: :)

ourtimewillcome
08-05-2005, 07:28 PM
would have been nice to get pena in against the lefty, but with Casey's game yesterday and Dunner having a bit of a month last month, and Kearns trying to get some consistant PT, I guess he stays odd man out...

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 07:29 PM
Dunn can hit lefties.

Just sayin

Big Klu
08-05-2005, 07:30 PM
And with each game RA sits, I like JN more and more (even if Casey is hitting in front of Adam).

I have a feeling that Aurilia played that game on the day immediately after his latest blowup only because Kearns got dinged up the night before, and Narron really wanted to give Griffey the day off. Ever since then, Richie has been buried on the bench.

ourtimewillcome
08-05-2005, 07:32 PM
Dunn can hit lefties.

Just sayin
Entire Season TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
vs Left-handed Pitcher Cincinnati Reds 63 114 15 23 6 1 9 23 58 18 40 1 0 .308 .509 .202

HBP
08-05-2005, 07:34 PM
Not too sad that Carlos Delgado won't be playing much in the series, if at all.

James B.
08-05-2005, 07:42 PM
Willy Mo should play everytime a lefty is pitching.

ourtimewillcome
08-05-2005, 07:45 PM
Willy Mo should play everytime a lefty is pitching.



:thumbup: tough to argue with that, especially with AK hurting...If another situation arises like the 8th inning last night and its between AK and Wily running the bases in crunch time, it would be tough to justify AK limping around out there.

GAC
08-05-2005, 07:48 PM
Chat is open! :thumbup:

Gainesville Red
08-05-2005, 07:49 PM
I hope Griffey homers and glares in the dugout at McKeon again. That was great.

RedRoser
08-05-2005, 07:49 PM
Hey, when you're stuck (on a team), then you're stuck (on the bench)!!! :evil:

SunDeck
08-05-2005, 07:53 PM
Sitting on pins for this game. Seriously hope Milton pitches better, but worried that he'll pitch well enough to convince the FO that their pitching problems are solved.
Ugh.

flyer85
08-05-2005, 07:58 PM
Vargas, the Marlins starter tonight, was a 2nd round pick last year.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 07:59 PM
How come our picks never do that? ;)

Johnny Vander m
08-05-2005, 08:12 PM
Oh my :mooner: , who was that who sang the National Anthem? Worst I ever heard it done. :thumbdown

Redmachine2003
08-05-2005, 08:14 PM
Because we coddle our pitchers so much they become soft and other teams believes what doesn't kill us makes us Stronger.

GAC
08-05-2005, 08:16 PM
Chat is open

Matt700wlw
08-05-2005, 08:18 PM
Milton's back

GAC
08-05-2005, 08:19 PM
Hr- Cabrera

2-0 Marlins

flyer85
08-05-2005, 08:20 PM
I was hoping for a walk. Carbrera is the only guy with power in the lineup. You HAVE to make someone else beat you. That was just plain stupid

DoogMinAmo
08-05-2005, 08:20 PM
2 out 2 strike 2 run homer. Argh. For those who care, 1360homer.com carrying live stream of Bengals scrimmage.

CTA513
08-05-2005, 08:22 PM
I bet Cox or even McKeon would have argued that 1-2 pitch.

:/

Fullboat
08-05-2005, 08:25 PM
Ever notice when George Grande says "yeap but the damage is done"we always lose those games. :all_cohol

CTA513
08-05-2005, 08:27 PM
This looks like a game were the Reds make it easy for the other teams pitcher.

TheBurn
08-05-2005, 08:27 PM
2 out 2 strike 2 run homer. Argh. For those who care, 1360homer.com carrying live stream of Bengals scrimmage.Perry sounds like the real deal!

DoogMinAmo
08-05-2005, 08:28 PM
Perry sounds like the real deal!

I still think to this day resigning Rudi was a big mistake. You don't pay big money to a power back.

DoogMinAmo
08-05-2005, 08:29 PM
If Milton manages to turn this into a football gamethread, it is gonna be a long night, lol.

GAC
08-05-2005, 08:37 PM
More and more have shown up in chat this Friday night.

Good inning by Milton.

Ears to lead off.

DoogMinAmo
08-05-2005, 08:37 PM
Milton gets through the order once, only giving up 1 homer. For those who didnt know, Casey in the month of August so far: 11AB, .636 BA, 2HR, 4RBI, 2.000OPS

How long does his hot streak last?

Gallen5862
08-05-2005, 08:43 PM
Buster olney on espn news said we have not put Junior on waivers yet. That whitesox still want to deal for him.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 08:45 PM
I don't trust Olney

lucky bugle boy
08-05-2005, 08:53 PM
re: RA; John Fay said during 2nd inning that someone (don't remember who he said and didn't recognize the name) tried to interview Aurilia about not playing, and Rich 'didn't want to talk about it' or something to that effect.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 08:54 PM
Nice play Lopez.

flyer85
08-05-2005, 08:55 PM
walk Cabrera

fielder's choice
08-05-2005, 09:03 PM
1 out baseknock for Milton.

Convert him an OFer

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Lopez hits into a Casey

paintmered
08-05-2005, 09:09 PM
psst......chat is open







go there now

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:12 PM
re: RA; John Fay said during 2nd inning that someone (don't remember who he said and didn't recognize the name) tried to interview Aurilia about not playing, and Rich 'didn't want to talk about it' or something to that effect.
FINALLY he doesn't want to talk!! Wooooohoooooo.

Go Jerry Go Jerry, it's your birthday, it's your birthday.

Redmachine2003
08-05-2005, 09:13 PM
I am really starting think that the Reds should not have anyone go to the all star game because after they go they stink in the second half of the season.

westofyou
08-05-2005, 09:15 PM
I am really starting think that the Reds should not have anyone go to the all star game because after they go they stink in the second half of the season.

That's what happens when your rep is going on the strength of 70 games.

Anyway his game in the field is improving and that is just as important.

CrackerJack
08-05-2005, 09:17 PM
I still think to this day resigning Rudi was a big mistake. You don't pay big money to a power back.

Really? Jerome Bettis, Eddie George and Corey Dillon disagree w/you. Just about every playoff team has a duo of backs who compliment and spell each other. Now the Bengals finally, hopefully, have one too. And I would never put all my chips on a rookie Michigan RB.

Sorry, now back to your regular Reds programming.

westofyou
08-05-2005, 09:18 PM
Pete Johnson and Boobie Clarke were some big backs.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:23 PM
Milton getting back into form

Falls City Beer
08-05-2005, 09:24 PM
Eric Milton is...uninteresting.

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:30 PM
Eric Milton is...uninteresting.
As is the game tonight.

GAC
08-05-2005, 09:33 PM
Milton is not pitching bad at all. No offense. again - this team cannot
do the little things when they have to. The Marlins have.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:35 PM
Not pitching bad?

it's 5-0! and they have more guys on ;)

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:36 PM
Milton is not pitching bad at all.
Over 100 pitches and 5 runs and he's not out of the 5th - you been drinking again, GAC?

RedFanAlways1966
08-05-2005, 09:36 PM
Milton had given up only 1 HR in 4 starts since the All-Star break entering tonight. He still had a 5.32 ERA in those 4 games... incl. 7 scoreless innings in his last start.

His season ERA now stands at 6.75 (if Coffey gets the last out w/out further damage). He has given up 36 more earned runs than Aaron Harang this year... despite pitching only 12 less innings (and has two more starts than Harang!). 7 quality starts in 24 games for Milton.

:help:

CTA513
08-05-2005, 09:40 PM
Milton pitched a gem tonight... It would be nice if they brought someone else up to start for either Hudson, Ortiz or Milton.

flyer85
08-05-2005, 09:40 PM
Milton had given up only 1 HR in 4 starts since the All-Star break entering tonight. He still had a 5.32 ERA in those 4 games... incl. 7 scoreless innings in his last start.

His season ERA now stands at 6.75 (if Coffey gets the last out w/out further damage). He has given up 36 more earned runs than Aaron Harang this year... despite pitching only 12 less innings (and has two more starts than Harang!). 7 quality starts in 24 games for Milton.

:help:We only have to watch it for two more years ... but I did save money on car insurance at ______

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:40 PM
I think I'll hang around until Dunn's next AB, then I'm going to go watch some paint dry.

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm Spartacas.

SirFelixCat
08-05-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm Spartacas.

NO, I'm Spartacus! :p:

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:42 PM
I stole your pepsi

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:43 PM
Dunn leading off...shocking

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:44 PM
That would've been a sac fly if someone was on 3rd.

creek14
08-05-2005, 09:45 PM
I'm out.

gO rEDz!!

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:45 PM
I'd like to trade for this pitcher

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:46 PM
see ya creek

ramp101
08-05-2005, 09:51 PM
dont pitch to Vargas!

flyer85
08-05-2005, 09:51 PM
I'd like to trade for this pitchercould have drafted him instead of that 5 tool phenom named BJ.

flyer85
08-05-2005, 09:52 PM
dont pitch to Vargas!Coffey is the most "hittable" pitcher on the Reds staff.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 09:53 PM
could have drafted him instead of that 5 tool phenom named BJ.

I'm sad now.

flyer85
08-05-2005, 09:55 PM
I'm sad now.DanO's drafting hitting when pitching was needed.

KronoRed
08-05-2005, 10:13 PM
This game thread is as dead as the Reds

NJReds
08-05-2005, 10:24 PM
Williamson looked good for the Cubs tonight. Fastball in low 90s, good break on the slider. Scoreless inning...2 Ks, 1 infield hit to Reyes.

flyer85
08-05-2005, 10:59 PM
Hope Dunn didn't break his hand. The one swing he took in his last AB he couldn't hold the bat.

Matt700wlw
08-05-2005, 11:05 PM
When Freel moved to OF, I would have let Olmedo play second.

The Reds keep saying they need to get him some PT to see what he can do, but whenever Freel isn't at second, Aurilia is...

CTA513
08-05-2005, 11:14 PM
The bullpen actually didnt give up any runs today, to bad Milton gave up all the runs the Marlins needed.

:/

Roy Tucker
08-06-2005, 12:51 AM
We went to the game tonight. Some observations...

- Obviously, Jason Vargas had the Reds off-stride all night. He moved in and out, changed speeds, and zapped a 90 mph fastball when he had to. The kid looked very good on the mound and *threw strikes*. Lord how frustrating it is to watch someone like that make it look so simple. Lots of fly ball outs, not many K's, not many BBs, we'll see how he does after being around the league a couple times.

- He also looks like he knows what he's doing at the plate. The Marlin fan sitting by us said he DH'ed at Long Beach State.

- Milton struggled all night. Cabrera absolutely *launched* one out in the first and Milton dodged trouble in the 2nd and 3rd. He got the Marlins 1-2-3 in the 4th but it was obvious his command was lousy and he had thrown a lot of pitches. And then the wheels fell off in the 5th giving up 3 runs to make it 5-0.

- Felo made 2 stellar plays at the expense of Jeff Conine. One he went deep (and I mean *deep*) into the hole and threw him out. The other was a scorching liner that Lopez dove and caught.

- EE almost robbed Conine again on a ball down the line that EE made a great play on but threw wide to first base.

- The game was decided in the Reds 7th. Vargas hit both Dunn and Larue and got yanked by McKeon (good to see Jack). EE doubled deep to left to score Dunn and runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. Aurilia grounded out, Freel walked to load the bases and bring up Lopez. FeLo ran the count full, and with the crowd roaring and on their feet, waved at ball 4 high and outside (from Ron Villone of all people). That was the ballgame right there. That was really the only time all night the crowd was fired up.

-FeLo looks a little lost at the plate.

- Cabrera has a live bat. Besides a HR and single, he hit one a mile high the opposite way that Freel caught with his back against the wall. An impressive young hitter.

- Coffey, Standridge, and Belisle pitched well in relief but the damage was done by Milton.

- Aurilia broke up a DP with a really agressive slide. He is playing like he is royally pissed off. I don't mind the fire.

- Not much Reds excitement.

westofyou
08-06-2005, 01:07 AM
FeLo looks a little lost at the plate.

Vs. LH's this year

.208 /.261/.337/.598 - 101 ab's

But don't fret, last year

.292/.333/.523 /.856 - 65 ab's

Lopez improved his LH approach this year by a threefold, however his RH approach has taken a hit, he rarely walks when he bats RH, only 10 times in his last 161 RH ab's. If he's not hitting (IE connecting) then it's not going to be pretty. RH his game is pretty much like Aurilia, power if he connects, not much else if he doesn't.

It can be ugly when stacked against LH's in a string of AB's.

But that's par for the course, LH's have owned this team for the mosrt part the last 10 years.. lots of quirky guys too.

oregonred
08-06-2005, 01:31 AM
Well I picked a gem of a game to attend in person about an hour after flying in all the way from PDX tonight. Hopes were very low with Milton on the mound and by the time we entered the park in the middle of the 1st the Fish already had enough for the evening (2-0 lead)

Tucker summed it up pretty well. Milton was garbage, Varges had them off balance all night (pop-ups and lazy fly balls), Felo's two gems were stellar, Felo's two rallying killing appearances at the plate weren't. Freel is pesky with a couple of timely walks. Kearns looks lost at the plate. KGJ looked awfully slow on CF with his jump on the ball in the RF gap in the 5th. EdE's double was ripped and was really the lone offensive highlight of the night.

Playing against a lefty without WMP penciled on the card and with Milton on the mound dealings is literally like fighting with both hands tied behind your back.

GABP is a nice place as I actually like it more every year when I can attend a game or two in person. Now all Cincinnati needs is a better product on the field...

The franchise differences seemed so clear -- Fish grow their own 300K talented lefty, the Reds look hapless with an 8.5M a year import.

Only saving grace was some Skyline Chili before the game and only having to pay $5 for some really good seats (Advantages of being out of the race)

Roy Tucker
08-06-2005, 10:33 AM
(originally posted in the peanut gallery but I decided to put it here too)

I'm conviced a family needs to go to a ballgame every so often.

A variation of the Tucker clan went to the game last night (me, Mrs. T, daughter, friend). The spousal unit was all out of sorts on the way down and while getting food. Snippy, testy, the b word, all that. The other 3 of us just shrugged and went on. Sometimes its best just leave things be.

I made sure I was sitting next to my wife. The game started. I start up with my normal game patter. I like to talk at games. I'll make comments about the play on the field, make comments about what's on the scoreboard, etc etc. I just yak.

She gave me a couple eyerolls, bored hmmmm's, yawns, and some very half-hearted attempts at feigning interest. Roy, however, was not deterred. I started acting goofy with the 2 kids, asking them silly questions, making rude remarks about batters stances, etc. The spousal unit actually paid a little attention.

Round about the 5th inning, I feel this arm come around me and this person snuggle up beside me. "You know", she said, "we need to do this more. It's so nice just to sit outside, watch the game, forget about everything else, and just have a nice time". Me, being the swave and deboner person I am said "well, duh, yeah, you moron".

The rest of the game (even though the Reds stunk) was good. My wife woke up, had fun, we freely talked, the girls had fun, blah blah. My wife and I held hands on he walk out (no mean trick to keep that going after 20 years of marriage). Good times.

Just like the Mastercard commercial.

KronoRed
08-06-2005, 12:03 PM
If I called my Mrs a moron I'd get a sharp elbow in the side :lol:

Good story Roy :)

Unassisted
08-06-2005, 01:20 PM
I was there, too. Crowd was very sparse.

I bought tickets from a scalper at face value. Section 134, Row F. Great seats! 6 rows from the field on the first base side. There were 3 of us and only 2 other people in entire row, but ours was the most empty row for 6 rows in either direction. Makes me think that the scalper didn't sell any of the other tickets in our row.

As Roy pointed out, the near-rally in the 7th was an exciting time. Lots of folks in our section left after the 7th, so my son and nephew went down to row A and enjoyed the unobstructed view of the field.

Kearns looked totally lost at the plate. Had I not known that he'd been performing well in earlier games since his return, I'd be very angry that he was back with the big club.

This was my first time to watch an entire game since Miley got the sack. I was impressed with Narron's use of the lineup. Bringing in Aurilia at second and moving Freel to RF to spell the frustrated Kearns seemed like a level of thinking that we wouldn't have seen from Miley.

Milton works sooo slowly that the game seems to drag on forever. I didn't get on the road until nearly 11:00 for a 7:00 game. That's rough.

I listened to all of Extra Innings on the drive back to Columbus. Tracy Jones thinks Kearns should have come up sooner. (I don't) He laments that the Reds don't sign more pitchers like Vargas. (I do too.) His theme for the night was to ask callers how much they'd had to drink before they called. (Or maybe he does this every Friday?) He got irate with a guy who'd had 6 beers and two mixed drinks and called after having driven home from a bar.

I arrived in town 4 hours before game time and used my tickets to take advantage of the discounted admission to the Reds HOF. The boys and I were impressed with the place. It is classy, interactive and entertaining. Well worth the $3 admission with gameday tickets.

No bargains to be had in the gift shop, though. Same with the gift shop at the Westin - no deals to match last year's $5 caps this time. :( At the two gift shops, I did notice that there were a lot of Austin Kearns items marked down this year. Apparently, it is symbolic of his reduced fan appeal after being sent down. I expected to see more Danny Graves items priced to sell, but apparently that stuff was long gone. Still no takers on the Ruben Mateo game-used bat that I saw there last year! :lol:

On the plus side, it was a great night to watch baseball. Not too hot. Not too buggy. No rain. No encounters with fans saying ugly things. And my son, the Marlin fan, left the ballpark happy. ;)

Roy Tucker
08-06-2005, 01:30 PM
Hey UA, we were in section 128 and 7 rows back, just by the corner of the dugout. Too bad we didn't know each other was there.

I sat by a Marlins fan. Very knowledgeable but insufferable. I just had to grind my teeth.