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jmcclain19
08-07-2005, 09:53 PM
And the first poll of the season looks like so

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm



1. Southern California (60) 13-0 1,547 1
2. Texas (2) 11-1 1,405 4
3. Tennessee 10-3 1,259 15
4. Michigan 9-3 1,242 12
5. Oklahoma 12-1 1,223 3
6. LSU 9-3 1,109 16
7. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,090 10
8. Miami (Fla.) 9-3 1,080 11
9. Ohio State 8-4 1,033 19
10. Iowa 10-2 1,014 8
11. Florida 7-5 910 25
12. Florida State 9-3 879 14
13. Georgia 10-2 838 6
14. Louisville 11-1 758 7
15. Auburn 13-0 723 2
16. Purdue 7-5 616 NR
17. Texas A&M 7-5 366 NR
18. Arizona State 9-3 304 20
19. Boise State 11-1 303 13
20. California 10-2 293 9
21. Texas Tech 8-4 247 17
22. Boston College 9-3 237 21
23. Virginia 8-4 210 23
24. Alabama 6-6 194 NR
25. Pittsburgh 8-4 193 NR

Others receiving votes
Fresno State (9-3) 188; Oregon (5-6) 145; Utah (12-0) 103; Georgia Tech (7-5) 88; Wisconsin (9-3) 79; North Carolina State (5-6) 69; Bowling Green (9-3) 63; Penn State (4-7) 44; Colorado (8-5) 40; Minnesota (7-5) 34; UCLA (6-6) 24; Texas-El Paso (8-4) 22; Nebraska (5-6) 21; Kansas State (4-7) 20; South Carolina (6-5) 16; Notre Dame (6-6) 13; West Virginia (8-4) 12; Wyoming (7-5) 12; Clemson (6-5) 9; New Mexico (7-5) 9; Arizona (3-8) 8; Northern Illinois (9-3) 8; Southern Mississippi (7-5) 7; Toledo (9-4) 7; Washington State (5-6) 7; Iowa State (7-5) 6; Michigan State (5-7) 6; Memphis (8-4) 5; Washington (1-10) 4; Miami (Ohio) (8-5) 3; Maryland (5-6) 2; UAB (7-5) 1; Duke (2-9) 1; Kansas (4-7) 1.


The USA TODAY Board of Coaches is made up of 62 head coaches at Division I-A institutions. All are members of the American Football Coaches Association.

The board for the 2005 season: Barry Alvarez, Wisconsin; Chuck Amato, N.C. State, Gary Barnett, Colorado; Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Mike Bellotti, Oregon; Phil Bennett, SMU; Jack Bicknell, Louisiana Tech; Larry Blakeney, Troy; Bobby Bowden, Florida State; Tommy Bowden, Clemson; Jeff Bower, Southern Miss; Gregg Brandon, Bowling Green; Art Briles, Houston; Rich Brooks, Kentucky; Mack Brown, Texas; Watson Brown, UAB; John Bunting, North Carolina; Lloyd Carr, Michigan; Larry Coker, Miami (Fla.); Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State; Darrell Dickey, North Texas; Bill Doba, Washington State; Randy Edsall, Connecticut; Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M; Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee; Joe Glenn, Wyoming; Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State; Walt Harris, Stanford; Ken Hatfield, Rice; Dan Hawkins, Boise State; Pat Hill, Fresno State; Terry Hoeppner, Indiana; Brady Hoke, Ball State; Skip Holtz, East Carolina; Brian Kelly, Central Michigan; Rocky Long, New Mexico; Sonny Lubick, Colorado State; Dan McCarney, Iowa State; Andy McCollum, Middle Tennessee; Shane Montgomery, Miami (Ohio); Joe Novak, Northern Illinois; Houston Nutt, Arkansas; Tom O'Brien, Boston College; Gary Patterson, TCU; Bobby Petrino, Louisville; Mark Richt, Georgia; Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia; Greg Schiano, Rutgers; Howard Schnellenberger, Florida Atlantic; John L. Smith, Michigan State; Frank Solich, Ohio; Steve Spurrier, South Carolina; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Jeff Tedford, California; Joe Tiller, Purdue; Dick Tomey, San Jose State; Jim Tressel, Ohio State; Tommy Tuberville, Auburn; Bobby Wallace, Temple; Randy Walker, Northwestern; Charlie Weis, Notre Dame; Tyrone Willingham, Washington.

The AFCA prohibits coaches from voting for schools on major NCAA probation.



A lot of love there for USC - 60 votes. Texas should possibly get more love as a championship contender. Florida State as 12? Hmm..who's their QB again? Miami at 8 and Michigan at 4 have me shaking my head as well. And Urban Meyer gets a huge helping of expectations with his medicore Florida team getting an 11 out of the gate.

Johnny Vander m
08-07-2005, 10:02 PM
How do they pick the board of 62 coaches? I notice there are only 6 from the SEC, unless I missed some. Anyone know?

jmcclain19
08-07-2005, 10:06 PM
How do they pick the board of 62 coaches? I notice there are only 6 from the SEC, unless I missed some. Anyone know?

I wonder if it's random along with an attempt to get a good, even spread between the conferences.

Notice Charlie Weis, a college football rook has a vote, while Tyrone Willingham, who's been a coach at three stops now, has one in his initial season at UW. Maybe ND always gets a vote, and Willingham's just followed him from ND to UW.

The only way I can figure it out is that they spread it out among the conferences and that's done semi-randomly.

Reds Fanatic
08-07-2005, 10:06 PM
USC got the most 1st place votes and the largest margin of points between 1st and 2nd in a preseason poll in all the years they have been doing a coaches poll.

Reds Fanatic
08-07-2005, 10:09 PM
Big game early in the season is going to be on September 10th when #9 Ohio State hosts #2 Texas.

jmcclain19
08-07-2005, 10:15 PM
I agree RedsFanatic - I also think one of the most fun early games of the year will be when No. 19 Boise State visits No. 13 Georgia on Sept. 3.

With Georgia having a new QB and Boise returning everyone of significance, it sets up for Boise to go to Oregon State the following week looking to knock off two top major conference foes. They could easily be the Utah of 2005.

I've become a big Boise and Fresno State fan in the last couple of seasons, mainly because in their search for respect, they've been willing to go anywhere and play anyone at any time. Fresno takes on USC @ USC this year, which should be another fun one.

Unassisted
08-07-2005, 10:18 PM
Purdue doesn't play Ohio State or Michigan this year. That li'l scheduling quirk could position them for a nice long stay in the Top 10.

Johnny Vander m
08-07-2005, 10:24 PM
Big game early in the season is going to be on September 10th when #9 Ohio State hosts #2 Texas.

That will be a great game, should be on National TV right? I'm a big SEC fan, (Rocky Top) but will be pulling big time for the Buckeyes.

Reds Fanatic
08-07-2005, 10:31 PM
That will be a great game, should be on National TV right? I'm a big SEC fan, (Rocky Top) but will be pulling big time for the Buckeyes. Yes its a national prime time game on ABC.

Johnny Vander m
08-07-2005, 10:39 PM
Thanks RF. Ah, Piqua, been there many times. Fond memories. Home of the famous Mills Brothers, remember them? and Savafan, one of my all time favorite posters.

Fil3232
08-08-2005, 02:02 AM
I agree RedsFanatic - I also think one of the most fun early games of the year will be when No. 19 Boise State visits No. 13 Georgia on Sept. 3.

With Georgia having a new QB and Boise returning everyone of significance, it sets up for Boise to go to Oregon State the following week looking to knock off two top major conference foes. They could easily be the Utah of 2005.

I've become a big Boise and Fresno State fan in the last couple of seasons, mainly because in their search for respect, they've been willing to go anywhere and play anyone at any time. Fresno takes on USC @ USC this year, which should be another fun one.


Gotta love the MAC too, right?

Sept. 3 the MAC is sending 3 of its "big 4" into the 3 toughest places to play in the Big Ten:

Miami at Ohio St.
Bowling Green at Wisconsin
Northern Illinois at Michigan

Better yet, later in the year BGSU travels to Boise and Toledo faces Fresno St.

And Miami just signed a home and home with Boise in 2009/2010.


Gotta love when the best "mid-majors" play each other.

KronoRed
08-08-2005, 02:30 AM
Tennessee is a bit high.

Florida has the talent, just up to Meyer to coach well in a tougher conference.

You know I know that Howard Schnellenberger and Dick Tomey are big names but it seems odd to have the coaches of Florida Atlantic and San Jose St with votes ;)

REDREAD
08-08-2005, 11:40 AM
Purdue doesn't play Ohio State or Michigan this year. That li'l scheduling quirk could position them for a nice long stay in the Top 10.

That's a big beef I have with all this conference expansion. They shouldn't be allowed to expand to the point where everyone doesn't play everyone. Makes the conference standings almost meaningless.

Red Leader
08-08-2005, 11:52 AM
It would be nice if the Big 10 could add Notre Dame and then split the conference in half, 6 teams for each division. Of course, they'd have a hard time keeping the name "Big 10" if they did that, but it's no different than having 11 teams in the conference.

Roy Tucker
08-08-2005, 12:07 PM
So do you suppose the head coach actually fills out the ballot or is it done by some intern?

rdiersin
08-08-2005, 12:10 PM
It would be nice if the Big 10 could add Notre Dame and then split the conference in half, 6 teams for each division. Of course, they'd have a hard time keeping the name "Big 10" if they did that, but it's no different than having 11 teams in the conference.

They'd have a harder time convincing ND to go to the Big 10, unfortunately. Their TV contract with NBC was extended earlier in the year, and they aren't going to give up any of that money.

Red Leader
08-08-2005, 12:10 PM
So do you suppose the head coach actually fills out the ballot or is it done by some intern?

Dan Patrick actually interviewed a coach last year and he said that he thought it was about 80/20 on coaches who actually fill it out vs others on their staff doing it. I forget who the coach was, I think it was Urban Meyer, but he thought that it was an honor to be able to vote, so he always voted himself, but he did acknowledge that a lot of coaches have a lot of things going on, so he wouldn't be surprised if some of them had other members of the staff vote for them.

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-08-2005, 12:56 PM
Preseason college football polls are unbelievably unfair. Ask Auburn last year, who started the season mired at the bottom (or off of) the major polls and could never make up the difference. No polls should be released until after 2 or 3 games, IMO.

That being said...

GO BUCKS!

Blimpie
08-08-2005, 02:50 PM
So do you suppose the head coach actually fills out the ballot or is it done by some intern?There has been much discussion about this in recent years as it (coaches poll) relates to the complex BCS formula. The coaches admit wholeheartedly that if they have extra time to watch football, it is going to be devoted exclusively to scouting their upcoming opponents. That is, if they would like to remain employed by their respective universities....

The Coaches Poll is a joke--wrapped inside a popularity contest. Does Urban Meyer have time to watch Iowa or Boise State play games in September? No. Just like Pete Carroll has no idea what kind of team Virginia Tech will have this year. These coaches probably don't even see their weekly ballot once the fall practice has begun.

KronoRed
08-08-2005, 02:53 PM
It would be nice if the Big 10 could add Notre Dame and then split the conference in half, 6 teams for each division. Of course, they'd have a hard time keeping the name "Big 10" if they did that, but it's no different than having 11 teams in the conference.

ND is in the Big East in all but football, and with the big east now a cakewalk to a guaranteed BCS game..that would be the conference to join.