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Caveat Emperor
08-10-2005, 04:40 PM
Can we prove that Wuertz intentionally walked Dunn? His supposed attempts at throwing strikes weren't any closer than his supposed intentional balls.

He was so good at that intentional walk that the next time Rothschild speaks to him, he's going to instruct him to issue an intentional strikeout to the next batter he faces.

traderumor
08-10-2005, 04:40 PM
Can we prove that Wuertz intentionally walked Dunn? His supposed attempts at throwing strikes weren't any closer than his supposed intentional balls. :laugh:

dsmith421
08-10-2005, 04:40 PM
There was a trivia question the other day...name the three hitters who had 95 RBIs by mid season

And Hack Wilson wasn't one of them...that left me scratching my head

Rolen last year had to be close...right?

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:40 PM
Garciaparra grounds out. 2 outs.

Patrick Bateman
08-10-2005, 04:41 PM
NOT to be a Negative Nelly.......but will Milton also implode and blow his first chance at a win in a long time?

Milton won his start before last, when he pitvhed 7 shut out innings.

cincyinco
08-10-2005, 04:42 PM
I just have to say, that Burnitz's mug shot isn't very flattering.. one ugly MF

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 04:42 PM
Dear Cub Fan:

I've got your cursed goat and your girlfriend with me. Should you like to see me off, I will be leaving town after the game.....on my motorcycle.

Kisses,

A. Kearns

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:42 PM
Burnitz strikes out. 3 outs.

8-1 Reds after 4 innings.

M2
08-10-2005, 04:42 PM
He was so good at that intentional walk that the next time Rothschild speaks to him, he's going to instruct him to issue an intentional strikeout to the next batter he faces.

Well played.

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 04:43 PM
whats the score now?

gm
08-10-2005, 04:43 PM
Rolen last year had to be close...right?

I've forgotten the three names...maybe Juan Gonzales was one? Hack Wilson had 190 one year, were 100 of them in August-September?

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 04:43 PM
There was a trivia question the other day...name the three hitters who had 95 RBIs by mid season

And Hack Wilson wasn't one of them...that left me scratching my headJuan Gone? Delgado?

OSURedLeg
08-10-2005, 04:44 PM
8 - 1

M2
08-10-2005, 04:44 PM
There was a trivia question the other day...name the three hitters who had 95 RBIs by mid season

And Hack Wilson wasn't one of them...that left me scratching my head

Hmm, maybe Lou Gehrig did it.

Manny Ramirez in 1999?

SirFelixCat
08-10-2005, 04:45 PM
Good God does this make me very very happy today :snicker: :thumbup:

westofyou
08-10-2005, 04:45 PM
Hmm, maybe Lou Gehrig did it.

Manny Ramirez in 1999?

Juan G, Manny and Albert Belle

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:46 PM
Milton flies out. 1 out.

Olmedo pinch hitting for Freel.

gm
08-10-2005, 04:46 PM
Hmm, maybe Lou Gehrig did it.

Manny Ramirez in 1999?

I think you're right about Manny, not sure about the Iron Horse

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 04:47 PM
I just have to say, that Burnitz's mug shot isn't very flattering.. one ugly MF

so is dunn though.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:47 PM
Olmedo grounds out. 2 outs.

gm
08-10-2005, 04:47 PM
Juan G, Manny and Albert Belle

That was it, but how could Wilson avoid being the 4th?

Matt700wlw
08-10-2005, 04:47 PM
mmmm...Chipotle...

westofyou
08-10-2005, 04:48 PM
That was it, but how could Wilson avoid being the 4th?

Because they had no AS game and thus no midseason?

OSURedLeg
08-10-2005, 04:48 PM
so is dunn though.

What's with you continuing to post about Adam Dunn's looks?

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:49 PM
Aurilia flies out. 3 outs.

HBP
08-10-2005, 04:49 PM
Juan Gone? Delgado?
Didn't Delgado in 2003, he had 97 or 98 ?

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 04:49 PM
What's with you continuing to post about Adam Dunn's looks?Methinks him doth protesteth too much....

M2
08-10-2005, 04:50 PM
That was it, but how could Wilson avoid being the 4th?

1930 was a silly-ass season. In fact there's school of thought that it was entirely fictional.

gm
08-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Because they had no AS game and thus no midseason?

That was my guess, but Hack should've gotten a mention for 95+ in 77 games

Mutaman
08-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Good efforts by the Sox to score off of Mariano and take a 2-1 lead in the 10th.

klw
08-10-2005, 04:51 PM
how often does this happen

I believe the only player to hit two grand slams in a inning is Fernando Tatis against the Dodgers a few years ago. Chan Ho Park, I think, gave up the first though I hope not the second too.

SunDeck
08-10-2005, 04:51 PM
Can't stick around, but I wish I could. Nothing like seeing the Reds slap around my 25th favorite MLB franchise.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Olmedo stays in the game to play SS, Aurilia to 2B.

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 04:52 PM
I believe the only player to hit two grand slams in a inning is Fernando Tatis against the Dodgers a few years ago. Chan Ho Park, I think, gave up the first though I hope not the second too.Am I crazy, or do I remember Dale Murphy doing something like this once? Anyone....anyone.... :confused:

Big Klu
08-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Any reason why Freel came out of the game?

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Barrett pops out. 1 out.

Garrett
08-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Olmedo pinch hitting for Freel.

Is Freel injured?

dsmith421
08-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Perfect example of why the Yanks are in trouble. "Leadfoot Bernie" takes 15 minutes to retrieve a Uribe drive to right-center, then Posada fails to block the plate on Podsednik's grounder.

If they end up losing this game they will be behind Cleveland.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Any reason why Freel came out of the game?


Probably to give Olmedo some playing time in a blow out game.

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Hmm, maybe Lou Gehrig did it.

Manny Ramirez in 1999?

Todd Helton


Arod

would be my best guesses other than manny

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Is Freel injured?

Marty hasnt said anything about Freel being injured, just that Olmedo came in to play SS.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 04:53 PM
The cubs are a really bad team

:lol:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:54 PM
Patterson strikes out. 2 outs.

westofyou
08-10-2005, 04:55 PM
Delgado instead of Belle.

Juan G in 96?

Hack Wilson on had 35 HR's in early August, meaning he hit 21 from 8-6 to the end of the season

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 04:56 PM
The cubs are a really bad team

:lol:Their most recent "collective implosion" is eerily similar to their play during last fall....

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:56 PM
Wuertz lines out. 3 outs.

8-1 Reds after 5 Innings.

EricF
08-10-2005, 04:56 PM
I believe the only player to hit two grand slams in a inning is Fernando Tatis against the Dodgers a few years ago. Chan Ho Park, I think, gave up the first though I hope not the second too.

You are correct: http://www.answers.com/topic/batters-with-two-grand-slams-in-the-same-baseball-game

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 04:57 PM
how did i do

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:57 PM
Ohman into pitch for the Cubs.

EricF
08-10-2005, 04:58 PM
Am I crazy, or do I remember Dale Murphy doing something like this once? Anyone....anyone.... :confused:

I wouldn't say you're crazy, because there may be something close, but Dale Murphy is not on the list of players with two grand slams in the same game.

http://www.answers.com/topic/batters-with-two-grand-slams-in-the-same-baseball-game

CTA513
08-10-2005, 04:59 PM
Freel left the game with a strained right quad muscle.

Big Klu
08-10-2005, 04:59 PM
Strained right quad for Freel.

Matt700wlw
08-10-2005, 04:59 PM
Freel -- strained right quad

Looks like Richie boy gets his wish

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Griffey strikes out. 1 out.

Big Klu
08-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Freel -- strained right quad

Looks like Richie boy gets his wish

Not if Ray-Ray has anything to say about it!

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:00 PM
I wouldn't say you're crazy, because there may be something close, but Dale Murphy is not on the list of players with two grand slams in the same game.

http://www.answers.com/topic/batters-with-two-grand-slams-in-the-same-baseball-gameThanks for looking :beerme:

LincolnparkRed
08-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Comcast is obviously enamoured with people in the crowd. It's almost to the point where they've shown more folks sitting in the crowd than they have baseball.

Grrrr.

It is part of the marketing of Wrigley, they always show hot chicks/little kids/ and old ladies dressed in cubs gear. It is a nice marketing strategy because it shows a little for everyone.

IowaRed
08-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Delgado instead of Belle.

Juan G in 96?

Hack Wilson on had 35 HR's in early August, meaning he hit 21 from 8-6 to the end of the season

I believe the answer was Delgado, Manny, and Juan G.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Play Ray every day

hey..it rhymes :D

RFS62
08-10-2005, 05:01 PM
Dear Cub Fan:

I've got your cursed goat and your girlfriend with me.


Redundant

Mutaman
08-10-2005, 05:01 PM
Perfect example of why the Yanks are in trouble. "Leadfoot Bernie" takes 15 minutes to retrieve a Uribe drive to right-center, then Posada fails to block the plate on Podsednik's grounder.

If they end up losing this game they will be behind Cleveland.

Did you think the ball to Bernie was playable? Really hit and taing away. Would a younger cf gotten to it?

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:01 PM
Hmm...goats.

Roy Tucker
08-10-2005, 05:02 PM
Holy cats, I leave and it's 1-1 and I come back and it's 8-1 :thumbup:

I can't think of a better team that the Cubbies to rub their noses in it. I gritted my teeth big time when the front-running Cubs fans came to GABP and called it Wrigley Field South and carried on like they invented the game of baseball.

Get a taste of success and it goes straight to their Old Style-addled brains.

Hey Cubs, GABP North this :mooner: you morons :evil:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:02 PM
Pena walks.

IowaRed
08-10-2005, 05:03 PM
Redundant

Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I saw this, the desk would have been a mess :)

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 05:03 PM
Homer Off Ohmer Ugly Dunn!

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:03 PM
I believe the answer was Delgado, Manny, and Juan G.

Yeah that was it.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:04 PM
Dunn strikes out. 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2005, 05:04 PM
Ohman owns Dunn. He handled Dunn quite easily this series.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:05 PM
What was that Adam?

Roy Tucker
08-10-2005, 05:05 PM
I thought one year (early 60's) Tommy Davis of the Dodgers had 100 RBIs by the AS break?

Big Klu
08-10-2005, 05:05 PM
It is part of the marketing of Wrigley, they always show hot chicks/little kids/ and old ladies dressed in cubs gear. It is a nice marketing strategy because it shows a little for everyone.

The Cubs are notorious for this. When I was in college at OU in the early 90's, my roommate was from Naperville, IL, so I watched a lots of Cubs Baseball on WGN. Whenever the Cubbies would get blasted (which was quite often in those days), Harry Caray would start to get restless, and say things like, "Homer and Ethel Robinson from Davenport, Iowa are at the ballpark today." Later, the cameraman would take a lot of shots of the boats on Lake Michigan. This usually meant the Cubs were being blown out and Harry had sampled too many Budweisers.

:beerme:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:06 PM
Kearns lines out. 3 outs.

Garrett
08-10-2005, 05:06 PM
Marty just criticized kearns for looking at too many good pitches

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 05:07 PM
Dunnnnn!

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:07 PM
I thought one year (early 60's) Tommy Davis of the Dodgers had 100 RBIs by the AS break?

90 in 1962

KearnsyEars
08-10-2005, 05:08 PM
Marty just criticized kearns for looking at too many good pitches

marty is an annoying mizer!

Ok now go nuts on me

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:08 PM
RedundantThat's what I was going for with the whole 'motorcycle' reference.... ;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:09 PM
Murton flies out. 1 out.

Roy Tucker
08-10-2005, 05:09 PM
90 in 1962
Ack.

Found this 2003 table:

Clearing the Bases
The nine players with 90 RBIs before
the All-Star break, and their final totals

Hank Greenberg (1935) 103, 170
Juan Gonzalez (1998) 101, 157
Manny Ramirez (1999) 96, 165
Harmon Killebrew (1969) 91, 140
Carlos Delgado (2003) 91, ?
Lou Gehrig (1934) 90, 165
Tommy Davis (1962) 90, 153
Tony Perez (1970) 90, 129
George Foster (1977) 90, 149

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:10 PM
Walker grounds out. 2 outs.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:10 PM
marty is an annoying mizer!

Ok now go nuts on me

Are you just a bit of a Kearns Fanboy?

If Kearns were traded to the Orioles, would you then visit OriolesZone.com??
hmm??

RFS62
08-10-2005, 05:10 PM
That's what I was going for with the whole 'motorcycle' reference.... ;)




You're on a roll today, Blimpie.

:thumbup:

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:11 PM
You were alive in 1935 Roy?


;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:11 PM
Lee grounds out. 3 outs.

8-1 Reds after 6 innings.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:12 PM
That's 4 straight innings for Milton.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:12 PM
Lee returning to career norms?

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:12 PM
Milton has been pretty good with his pitch count and could have a chance to pitch a complete game.

Garrett
08-10-2005, 05:12 PM
I think Baker has lost control of the team. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't his last game.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:12 PM
Lee returning to career norms?

Maybe hes the guy that was caught on steroids and is appealing?! :eek:

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:13 PM
Ack.

Found this 2003 table:

Clearing the Bases
The nine players with 90 RBIs before
the All-Star break, and their final totals

Hank Greenberg (1935) 103, 170
Juan Gonzalez (1998) 101, 157
Manny Ramirez (1999) 96, 165
Harmon Killebrew (1969) 91, 140
Carlos Delgado (2003) 91, ?
Lou Gehrig (1934) 90, 165
Tommy Davis (1962) 90, 153
Tony Perez (1970) 90, 129
George Foster (1977) 90, 149Hey, I had these two on my first guess (post # 262). What me win?

Mutaman
08-10-2005, 05:13 PM
Hugh effort by the White Sox to take 2 of 3 in New York. They have no offense but great pitching, good defense, and a terrific manager. Junior would be a great addition to that team but he would have to DH because nobody is moving this guy Rowand out of centerfield.

Yankees get two great pitched games from a couple of retreads and lose them both.

Tony Cloninger
08-10-2005, 05:13 PM
ERA for Reds 0.02 lower than COL......keep it going....may reach under before EOY. :rolleyes:

Garrett
08-10-2005, 05:13 PM
Lee returning to career norms?

Or the meds are wearing out

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:13 PM
Williamson to pitch the 7th for the Cubs.

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:15 PM
You're on a roll today, Blimpie.

:thumbup:What can I say? I loves me some Cubs bludgeoning. I find it....inspiring! :D

Matt700wlw
08-10-2005, 05:16 PM
Dear Cubs fans:

Your season was over opening day...your the Cubs

signed:

Reds fan

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:16 PM
They have no offense but great pitching, good defense, and a terrific manager.

4.8 runs a game is a pretty good offense, Ozzie is whack... someday he's going to burn like Rome.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:17 PM
Dear Cubs fans:

Your season was over opening day...your the Cubs

signed:

Reds fan

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:17 PM
Larue walks for the 3rd time today.

gm
08-10-2005, 05:17 PM
Ack.

Found this 2003 table:

Clearing the Bases
The nine players with 90 RBIs before
the All-Star break, and their final totals

Hank Greenberg (1935) 103, 170
Juan Gonzalez (1998) 101, 157
Manny Ramirez (1999) 96, 165
Harmon Killebrew (1969) 91, 140
Carlos Delgado (2003) 91, ?
Lou Gehrig (1934) 90, 165
Tommy Davis (1962) 90, 153
Tony Perez (1970) 90, 129
George Foster (1977) 90, 149

Nice job, I think the AFLAC trivia answer was wrong (Giant's broadcast?)

Hack gets no love, and what happened to Doggie in the 2nd half of '70?

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:17 PM
LaRue showing he should have been in the 2 spot ;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:17 PM
Encarnacion grounds into force out at 2nd. 1 out.

oneupper
08-10-2005, 05:18 PM
Nice to see LaRue laying off the high heat. :thumbup:

Puffy
08-10-2005, 05:18 PM
Larue walks for the 3rd time today.

He's batting seventh today, so they are all soft walks - only leadoff and second place hitters can get hard walks.

:evil:

BRM
08-10-2005, 05:18 PM
4.8 runs a game is a pretty good offense

5th in the AL in runs scored. 4th in homers too.

Caveat Emperor
08-10-2005, 05:19 PM
Dear Cubs fans:

Your season was over opening day...your the Cubs

signed:

Reds fan

It's funny and all...

...but being a Reds fan, a Buccaneers & Bengals fan, and a Tulane Green Wave football & basketball fan, I've just been on too many of these blowouts from the other side to taunt TOO hard.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:19 PM
Milton strikes out. 2 outs.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:19 PM
A HR by Milton would have been perfect there

traderumor
08-10-2005, 05:19 PM
Ron Santo calling the Cubs out?

"No heart, poor effort."

You would think, with all of the intelligence accumulated over the course of human history, that every time a team goes through a losing streak, esp. in baseball, it can appear that the team is playing lackadaisically. However, it is most often due to the team all stinking at exactly the same time, as is the current case with the Cubs.

The amazing thing is that FO types, making hundreds of thousands of dollars, actually believe that it is lack of effort and not lack of talent. Boy this sounds familiar, just like there was another team that I'm familiar with who had the media types talk about "underachieving" in a sense of not reaching potential. Why can't they figure out its lack of talent and they are witnessing the cruel nature of the long season of things evening out to the talent of the players they have on the field.

Yet, it is likely the Cubs will continue to field a similar team, merely changing faces rather than realizing that the players that are attractive to them do not make up an excellent professional baseball team?

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:20 PM
Reds with a season high 9 walks today.

kaldaniels
08-10-2005, 05:20 PM
He's batting seventh today, so they are all soft walks - only leadoff and second place hitters can get hard walks.

:evil:

Please explain hard vs soft walks. I thought LaRue held back on some nice pitches.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:20 PM
Olmedo flies out. 3 outs.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:21 PM
AL will always have better offense...they have that stupid DH rule.

LincolnparkRed
08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Wade Boggs is either trying to channel Harry Carray or he is just an awful singer

gm
08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Wade Boggs does a pretty good Harry Caray imitation during the 7th inning stretch

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Hack gets no love, and what happened to Doggie in the 2nd half of '70?

One thing about RBI's in that era they were relativly new as a stat, they only showed up in the btoom of the box score and without a running total. Where they reside now in the current box scores resided "assists" instead.

Perez only 7 RBI in September in 1970.

perez's SLG by month in 1970

.870
.589
.678
.481
.610
.387

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:23 PM
Reds with a season high 9 walks today.

Only one yesterday IIRC

SteelSD
08-10-2005, 05:23 PM
Wade Boggs does a horrible impersonation of Harry Caray during the 7th Inning stretch. Sung the song as Caray and wore the glasses too.

Sandberg looked like he wanted to run out of the booth and Cubs fans appeared to do everything they could to hold back boos.

Pretty funny stuff really.

traderumor
08-10-2005, 05:24 PM
Please explain hard vs soft walks. I thought LaRue held back on some nice pitches.It is an inside joke making fun of a poster that talked about hard and soft in the sense of situational hitting. Hard walks are "clutch," soft are received when it doesn't mean anything. I think the original advancing of that theory was relating to Dunn only hitting "soft" home runs, as in when they didn't mean anything or when no one was on base.

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:24 PM
Ron Santo calling the Cubs out?

"No heart, poor effort."

You would think, with all of the intelligence accumulated over the course of human history, that every time a team goes through a losing streak, esp. in baseball, it can appear that the team is playing lackadaisically. However, it is most often due to the team all stinking at exactly the same time, as is the current case with the Cubs.

The amazing thing is that FO types, making hundreds of thousands of dollars, actually believe that it is lack of effort and not lack of talent. Boy this sounds familiar, just like there was another team that I'm familiar with who had the media types talk about "underachieving" in a sense of not reaching potential. Why can't they figure out its lack of talent and they are witnessing the cruel nature of the long season of things evening out to the talent of the players they have on the field.

Yet, it is likely the Cubs will continue to field a similar team, merely changing faces rather than realizing that the players that are attractive to them do not make up an excellent professional baseball team?Ronnie better be careful with his criticism or he'll be on the next bus to Iowa. As we all learned last fall, Cubs players have skin about as thick as Saran Wrap...

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:24 PM
Ramirez flies out. 1 out.

LincolnparkRed
08-10-2005, 05:25 PM
Only one yesterday IIRC

Big difference between the Rich Hill's of the world and Mark Prior, especially when umpires are calling close pitches.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:25 PM
Garciaparra singles.

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:27 PM
Big difference between the Rich Hill's of the world and Mark Prior, especially when umpires are calling close pitches.

Yep, but it's nice to have the guys who can win both ways, the Cubs are hackers and if they were facing Hill they would have hacked at more of his stuff, thus cutting their own throats.

Of course they'd get praised for being "agressive" too.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:28 PM
Burnitz grounds out. 2 outs.

PickOff
08-10-2005, 05:28 PM
Alert! Alert! Milton over 80 pitches! Alert!

EricF
08-10-2005, 05:28 PM
Garciaparra's single was the first Cubs hit since Barrett's homer in the second inning!

Big Klu
08-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Alert! Alert! Milton over 80 pitches! Alert!

But it's a soft 80.

GAC
08-10-2005, 05:30 PM
Man! Nothing makes my day like possibly not only sweeping the Cubs, but putting a HUGE hurt on them in doing so. Dusty can't be a happy camper (but I is). :D

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Barrett doing a nice job of running Miltons pitch count up

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Barrett walks.

Matt700wlw
08-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Get the pen up

TeamBoone
08-10-2005, 05:32 PM
I know this is out of context for the game thread, but I just started reading it and just had to comment on this.


:dunn: -->

Look at that mugg man he's ugly, and I worked with a "girlfriend" he he of his a the Cincy courthouse last summer. One of the most beautiful women I've EVER seen not on a silverscreen/television. But how could any women find him attractive. Proof that there is gold diggers.

Wow! Now there's a shallow statement if I've ever seen one!

I guess because the girl is beautiful, it makes her above dating a regular-looking guy (Adam is far from ugly), and if she does, she's a gold digger.

Beauty, BTW, is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty isn't just skin deep; it's a combination of a lot of things. I've seen numerous beautiful girls (women) and handsome guys that couldn't hold a candle in the personality department... all ego and the-world-owes-me a living mindset... a total turnoff.

In my eye, Adam is extremely attractive in many ways, though he's not often the most photogenic. Some of his pics are really good and others, not so hot. Just take a look at his various baseball cards. Regardless, I find none of them ugly. And, from what I hear, he's an extremely humble guy with a terrific personality and a variety of interests. Big, rumble/tumble, manly guy with an impish, boyish grin... just my type... if only I were younger.

Anyway, I digress. Here's a few particular favorites of mine:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
Belsile warming up.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
Wait till Creek sees that comment ;)

Tony Cloninger
08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
Claussen seemed to have an aversion to throwing strikes to Barrett also.....what is the deal with this guy? He made BC work....and now might ruin EM's chance at a CG.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:34 PM
Patterson flies out. 3 outs.

8-1 Reds after 7 innings.

Garrett
08-10-2005, 05:35 PM
Beauty isn't just skin deep; it's a combination of a lot of things. I've seen numerous beautiful girls (women) and handsome guys that couldn't hold a candle in the personality department...
In my eye, Adam is extremely attractive in many ways,

I'm getting kind of misty reading this.

gm
08-10-2005, 05:35 PM
Freel left the game with a strained right quad muscle.

And this is why Ryan can never be counted on as a full-time starter. He's got the heart, but his body just won't cooperate

Best position for Freel = CF, but he'll burn himself out on the basepaths, regardless

Another injury risk given regular PT? Wily Mo

You might get 162 games/season combined between Freel and Pena in CF, if they can manage not to get hurt at the same time

Puffy
08-10-2005, 05:35 PM
Please explain hard vs soft walks. I thought LaRue held back on some nice pitches.

Its an old Adam Dunn argument on here that the fact that Dunn walks so much from the 6th or 7th spot in the lineup isn't good because there are weak hitters behind those positions and thereby the walks were "soft"

It was just an attempt to minimize what Adam Dunn does on a nightly basis, and a lot of us tried to point out what a stud Dunn is - however, it is still to no avail to some people.

Hope that clears it up a little :thumbup:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:36 PM
Novoa to pitch the 8th for the Cubs.

OSURedLeg
08-10-2005, 05:36 PM
I know this is out of context for the game thread, but I just started reading it and just had to comment on this.



Wow! Now there's a shallow statement if I've ever seen one!

I guess because the girl is beautiful, it makes her above dating a regular-looking guy (Adam is far from ugly), and if she does, she's a gold digger.

Beauty, BTW, is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty isn't just skin deep; it's a combination of a lot of things. I've seen numerous beautiful girls (women) and handsome guys that couldn't hold a candle in the personality department... all ego and the-world-owes-me a living mindset... a total turnoff.

In my eye, Adam is extremely attractive in many ways, though he's not often the most photogenic. Some of his pics are really good and others, not so hot. Just take a look at his various baseball cards. Regardless, I find none of them ugly. And, from what I hear, he's an extremely humble guy with a terrific personality and a variety of interests. Big, rumble/tumble, manly guy with an impish, boyish grin... just my type... if only I were younger.

Anyway, I digress. Here's a few particular favorites of mine:

That post annoyed me as well, just simply because it had no point to it and it's certainly not flattering towards a player. He's posted several "Ugly Dunn" comments and as annoying and dumb as they are, just try to ignore them is the best policy.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:37 PM
Aurilia grounds out. 1 out.

oneupper
08-10-2005, 05:37 PM
One thing about RBI's in that era they were relativly new as a stat, they only showed up in the btoom of the box score and without a running total. Where they reside now in the current box scores resided "assists" instead.

Perez only 7 RBI in September in 1970.

perez's SLG by month in 1970

.870
.589
.678
.481
.610
.387

I remember that season well. At the break, Perez was leading candidate for MVP not Bench.

PickOff
08-10-2005, 05:38 PM
WilyMo is going to take Scotty deep. You heard it here first.

REDREAD
08-10-2005, 05:38 PM
score update?

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:38 PM
MLB gameday just keeled over.

Roy Tucker
08-10-2005, 05:39 PM
And this is why Ryan can never be counted on as a full-time starter. He's got the heart, but his body just won't cooperate

"When your mind is making promises your body can't keep"

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:39 PM
score update?

8-1 good guys

BRM
08-10-2005, 05:39 PM
Aurilia grounds out. 1 out.

RA is the only starter that hasn't reached base at least once today.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:39 PM
Griffey flies out. 2 outs.

LincolnparkRed
08-10-2005, 05:40 PM
8-1 with 2 down in the 8th

Roy Tucker
08-10-2005, 05:40 PM
I think Adam Dunn has an inner beauty.


Or a beauty of an innie, I can never keep that straight.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:41 PM
Cruz strikes out. 3 outs.

REDREAD
08-10-2005, 05:43 PM
8-1 good guys

Thanks, pesky work was getting in the way of following the game.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:43 PM
Belisle to pitch the 8th.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:45 PM
Go Matt's! :D

fielder's choice
08-10-2005, 05:45 PM
Reds have 8 runs on 6 hits. :cool:

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:45 PM
Hollandsworth singles.

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:46 PM
Reds have 8 runs on 6 hits. :cool:

Walks are a waste of time. :evil:

EricF
08-10-2005, 05:46 PM
Hollandsworth pinch-hitting for Cubs pitcher, he singles.

BRM
08-10-2005, 05:46 PM
Taking walks just clogs up the basepaths... ;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:47 PM
Murton grounds into a double play. 2 outs.

LincolnparkRed
08-10-2005, 05:47 PM
Nice turn for the double play according to Pat Hughes

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:48 PM
Walker grounds out. 3 outs.

8-1 Reds after 8 innings.

traderumor
08-10-2005, 05:48 PM
"When your mind is making promises your body can't keep"Then try Cialis :devil:

LincolnparkRed
08-10-2005, 05:48 PM
Groudout to aurillia for the 3rd out.

On to the 9th 8-1 Reds

EricF
08-10-2005, 05:49 PM
Milwaukee got swept by the Cardinals, losing 3-0 today. Looks like the Reds may gain on both the Cubs and the Brewers today.

Super_Barry11
08-10-2005, 05:49 PM
Good inning by Belisle. :)

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:50 PM
I'd like a few more runs..to be safe

Heath
08-10-2005, 05:50 PM
RA is the only starter that hasn't reached base at least once today.

He would have, but his goatee's been bad luck...

TeamBoone
08-10-2005, 05:51 PM
I'm getting kind of misty reading this.

:D

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:51 PM
Dunn walks.

fielder's choice
08-10-2005, 05:51 PM
Dusty brings in Wood again, in a mop-up role. :confused:

EricF
08-10-2005, 05:51 PM
Kerry Wood pitching for the Cubs. He walked Dunn on four pitches.

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:51 PM
He would have, but his goatee's been bad luck... :D

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:52 PM
Dusty baffles me.

Johnny Vander m
08-10-2005, 05:52 PM
Ron Santo is the worst PBP man I think I have ever heard. Moan and groan Ron.

RBA
08-10-2005, 05:52 PM
Anyone tracking MLB Gameday? It's doing some weird stuff. I think it has Jr making all three outs in the eight inning.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:52 PM
Kearns strikes out. 1 out.

BRM
08-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Dusty brings in Wood again, in a mop-up role. :confused:

I really don't understand why they are using Wood this way. They might as well shut him down for the year if he's only going to be used in mop up roles.

Big Klu
08-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Anyone tracking MLB Gameday? It's doing some weird stuff. I think it has Jr making all three outs in the eight inning.

I would be cool with that.

gm
08-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Nice turn for the double play according to Pat Hughes

Olmedo (playing SS) fielded the ball, and with a hop, skip and a throw retired two Cubs, unassisted

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Larue strikes out. 2 outs.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:54 PM
I really don't understand why they are using Wood this way. They might as well shut him down for the year if he's only going to be used in mop up roles.

They just got swept by the Reds it's time to shut the entire season down ;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:54 PM
Encarnacion strikes out. 3 outs.

Mutaman
08-10-2005, 05:54 PM
4.8 runs a game is a pretty good offense, Ozzie is whack... someday he's going to burn like Rome.

They've got Timo Perez dhing and batting 5th. Hitting .221.

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:55 PM
Dusty baffles me.I'm confused. Do you mean the whole, "Manager wearing sweatbands" thing? Or are you referring to his unnatural affection for toothpicks? Please elaborate... ;)

traderumor
08-10-2005, 05:56 PM
Dear Cubs,

:owned:

TeamBoone
08-10-2005, 05:56 PM
Anyone tracking MLB Gameday? It's doing some weird stuff. I think it has Jr making all three outs in the eight inning.

yeah, and it currently shows the Cubs both pitching and batting!

gm
08-10-2005, 05:56 PM
Kerry Wood pitching mop-up and throwing high-90 gas?

who woulda ever thunk it?

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm confused. Do you mean the whole, "Manager wearing sweatbands" thing? Or are you referring to his unnatural affection for toothpicks? Please elaborate... ;)

All of it :laugh:

RBA
08-10-2005, 05:57 PM
MLB Gameday is messed up. Aurilia just struck out like 4 times in a row. ;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:57 PM
Belisle stays in to pitch the 9th

OnBaseMachine
08-10-2005, 05:58 PM
The Reds have won five straight against the Cubs and have scored eight runs or more in each game.

Also have an eight game road winning streak. The Big Road Machine is back! :D

westofyou
08-10-2005, 05:58 PM
They've got Timo Perez dhing and batting 5th. Hitting .221.

Ozzie is whack.. he's a freak.

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 05:58 PM
MLB Gameday is messed up. Aurilia just struck out like 4 times in a row. ;)

Ballhog ;)

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:58 PM
Lee doubles.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:58 PM
Leadoff Double....

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
1 out!

Blimpie
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
I really don't understand why they are using Wood this way. They might as well shut him down for the year if he's only going to be used in mop up roles.GM Hendry said to Marty the other night that if/when the Cubs are mathematically eliminated, then they would shut Wood down for the season and Dr. Kremcheck would clean out the hamburger that he calls a rotator cuff. That may not have been an exact quote...but you get the picture.

EricF
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
Those of us listening on the radio will keep you Web-heads updated.

gm
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
Lee doubles.

Red's pitchers are just getting Derek warmed up for the Cardies

Nice play by EdE

CTA513
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
Ramirez grounds out. 1 out.

gitrdunn44
08-10-2005, 05:59 PM
Wicked play by EE.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 06:00 PM
8 - 2 Cubs... Single

EricF
08-10-2005, 06:00 PM
Lee went to third on the groundout.

CTA513
08-10-2005, 06:00 PM
Garciaparra singles, 1 run scores.

8-2 Reds.

EricF
08-10-2005, 06:01 PM
Garciaparra singled to drive in Lee. 8-2

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 06:01 PM
Kent Mercker working in the bullpen

CTA513
08-10-2005, 06:01 PM
Burnitz pops out. 2 outs.

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 06:02 PM
2 outs, runner on first. 8-2 Reds

redsrule2500
08-10-2005, 06:04 PM
Reds Win 8 - 2! :beerme: :party: :party: :clap: :jump: :roll:

Cubs were :owned: !

gitrdunn44
08-10-2005, 06:04 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds! Way to go guys!

CTA513
08-10-2005, 06:04 PM
Barrett flies out. 3 outs.

Reds win 8-2.

gm
08-10-2005, 06:04 PM
Junior waves goodbye to the bleacher bums

M2
08-10-2005, 06:05 PM
Ron Santo calling the Cubs out?

"No heart, poor effort."

You would think, with all of the intelligence accumulated over the course of human history, that every time a team goes through a losing streak, esp. in baseball, it can appear that the team is playing lackadaisically. However, it is most often due to the team all stinking at exactly the same time, as is the current case with the Cubs.

The amazing thing is that FO types, making hundreds of thousands of dollars, actually believe that it is lack of effort and not lack of talent. Boy this sounds familiar, just like there was another team that I'm familiar with who had the media types talk about "underachieving" in a sense of not reaching potential. Why can't they figure out its lack of talent and they are witnessing the cruel nature of the long season of things evening out to the talent of the players they have on the field.

Yet, it is likely the Cubs will continue to field a similar team, merely changing faces rather than realizing that the players that are attractive to them do not make up an excellent professional baseball team?

Great post. You'd especially think a former player who was known for being a streak hitter wouldn't parrot that nonsense.

oneupper
08-10-2005, 06:05 PM
REDs look like they want to play another :thumbup:

KronoRed
08-10-2005, 06:06 PM
GO Reds :D

Matt700wlw
08-10-2005, 06:06 PM
:lol: gotta love it :lol:

RBA
08-10-2005, 06:07 PM
Junior waves goodbye to the bleacher bums

As Oprah takes him househunting for a new home near the White Sox ballpark.

gitrdunn44
08-10-2005, 06:09 PM
This is great.

traderumor
08-10-2005, 06:11 PM
GM Hendry said to Marty the other night that if/when the Cubs are mathematically eliminated, then they would shut Wood down for the season and Dr. Kremcheck would clean out the hamburger that he calls a rotator cuff. That may not have been an exact quote...but you get the picture.I know Wood has a hefty contract, not sure of the money, but the Cubs might be open to dealing him these days. Now would be a really good time to start talking Wood or Zambrano with a team that really needs to retool, and like us, are going to have to take an excess to turn in some solid offensive performers. Just thinking out loud, so don't beat up on me too hard for the thought, and even with Wood's injury history, he might be heading toward a time in his career when the arm injuries stay away.

Gallen5862
08-10-2005, 06:12 PM
"This one belongs to the Reds." This was a great game by milton and a well needed sweep. any update on Freel?

gm
08-10-2005, 06:12 PM
As Oprah takes him househunting for a new home near the White Sox ballpark.

Off-day tomorrow...you never know

Will Griffey pass the time in Chi-town, or Milwaukee?

(not a tough call, there)

gm
08-10-2005, 06:14 PM
I know Wood has a hefty contract, not sure of the money, but the Cubs might be open to dealing him these days. Now would be a really good time to start talking Wood or Zambrano with a team that really needs to retool.

Wood for Kearns, would you do it?

Patrick Bateman
08-10-2005, 06:14 PM
Just thinking out loud, so don't beat up on me too hard for the thought, and even with Wood's injury history, he might be heading toward a time in his career when the arm injuries stay away.

If anything, he appears heading towards a time when injuries are commonplace.

traderumor
08-10-2005, 06:19 PM
Yea, cancel Wood just because he's due $11M, unrealistic unless the Cubs wanted to eat a part of it. The most likely to move for them has always been Zambrano, IMO. He's got that attitude problem label, which I could care less about because his attitude is all on the field competitiveness, not the off field whining like the Reds players seem to like engaging in.

traderumor
08-10-2005, 06:20 PM
Wood for Kearns, would you do it?It would take some cash, but probably, except he's only signed through 2006, with a mutual option for 2007. We know they like WMP now, though.

TStuck
08-10-2005, 06:24 PM
19-10 since the all star break :beerme:

5 consecutive quality starts for the 1st time this season :beerme:


Who is this team and what have you done with my Reds???? :D

Falls City Beer
08-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Wood for Kearns, would you do it?

Every day of my life. And I'll personally supply the Old Style.

Kearns is World Com stock--and we're insider trading.

captainmorgan07
08-10-2005, 08:04 PM
sounds like milton pitched a whale of a game cub pitching was terrible this whole series guess we caught um at a good time

pedro
08-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Every day of my life. And I'll personally supply the Old Style.

Kearns is World Com stock--and we're insider trading.]


wait a second. I don't understand. You were one the people most staunchly against sending Kearns down. he's playing better since he returned. What's changed?

Falls City Beer
08-10-2005, 08:24 PM
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wait a second. I don't understand. You were one the people most staunchly against sending Kearns down. he's playing better since he returned. What's changed?

I was against sending him down, but not necessarily because I thought he was going to go on a tear; rather, I thought it did nothing to solve the outfield problem at best and at worst would hurt Kearns' trade value.

I guess the point's moot now, as he ain't going anywhere. But even with this *good* streak Kearns is on, his OPS is still a putrid .735. I think the guy has no future with the Reds, but I could easily see him gettin out from under the yoke that is the Reds and performing wonderfully somewhere else (better coaching, clearer communication, open outfield spot).

pedro
08-10-2005, 08:30 PM
I was against sending him down, but not necessarily because I thought he was going to go on a tear; rather, I thought it did nothing to solve the outfield problem at best and at worst would hurt Kearns' trade value.

I guess the point's moot now, as he ain't going anywhere. But even with this *good* streak Kearns is on, his OPS is still a putrid .735. I think the guy has no future with the Reds, but I could easily see him gettin out from under the yoke that is the Reds and performing wonderfully somewhere else (better coaching, clearer communication, open outfield spot).

I don't know. He's playing well now and it appears that he's going to get most the time in RF. IMO right now it looks like WMP is the guy with no future as a Red.

Falls City Beer
08-10-2005, 08:38 PM
I don't know. He's playing well now and it appears that he's going to get most the time in RF. IMO right now it looks like WMP is the guy with no future as a Red.

In roughly the same number of ABs Pena's still got .080 OPS points on Kearns. And Pena's not setting the world on fire. While Pena is nose-diving toward obscurity/supersub status, Kearns appears to be plateauing at sub-mediocrity.

Not pretty all around. And both these guys could have been turned into pitching arms. Now they'd be lucky to net a bum-armed project. Shame.

pedro
08-10-2005, 09:02 PM
I was all for trading WMP this off season.

I still thik AK will be pretty good, but he sure doesn't look like the star we all thought he was going to be.

Topcat
08-10-2005, 11:53 PM
I was all for trading WMP this off season.

I still thik AK will be pretty good, but he sure doesn't look like the star we all thought he was going to be.

Not to be mr negative but how many Lee's will we pass up on of's potential? What is easier to produce? What do the reds have a history of not producing ?

OnBaseMachine
08-11-2005, 03:05 AM
Dunn has a theory about why the Cubs suck.


Dunn loves Wrigley

Adam Dunn loves hitting at Wrigley Field and his numbers reflect that, but even he was surprised at the magnitude. Since Dunn made the majors in 2001, no visiting player has wrecked the joint the way Dunn has.

He leads all Wrigley opponents in homers (13), RBIs (33), batting average (.328), hits (41), runs (27) and slugging percentage (.733).

"Really? I did not know that," Dunn said. "I love it here, love to hit here. I don't know what it is, maybe the atmosphere with the fans. Every game is like Game 7 of the World Series. And with that pitching staff the Cubs have, it surprises me I've done so well. Weird. But I'll take it."

Dunn has a theory about why they are The Collapsible Cubs.

"Every year they fold at the end, every year," he said. "Why? I believe they get tired. It's all those day games they have to play. It's like spring training. Players like to sleep in, but they can't do it here. That takes its toll."

And this was pretty funny




Who is Billy Williams?

On their first day at Wrigley Field Monday, veteran Kent Mercker and rookie Jason Standridge were standing in right field when Standridge noticed a flag flapping on a pole in the right field corner that read, "Williams, 26."

Said Standridge, "I didn't know they put up flags for the day's starting pitchers," referring to Chicago's Monday starter, Jerome Williams. Standridge was unaware the flag was for Hall of Fame Cubs outfielder Billy Williams.

"Yeah, they do," Mercker said with a deadpan. Pointing to two other flags, Mercker said, "And Ernie Banks is pitching Tuesday and Ron Santo on Wednesday."

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/reds/daily/0811redsnotes.html