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flyer85
08-15-2005, 07:16 PM
1. R Winn, CF
2. O Vizquel, SS
3. J Snow, 1B
4. P Feliz, 3B
5. M Tucker, RF
6. R Durham, 2B
7. T Linden, LF
8. M Matheny, C
9. K Correia, P

1. R Freel, 2B
2. F Lopez, SS
3. K Griffey Jr., CF
4. A Dunn, LF
5. S Casey, 1B
6. A Kearns, RF
7. J LaRue, C
8. E Encarnacion, 3B
9. A Harang, P

KronoRed
08-15-2005, 07:17 PM
Ever so close to being perfect ;)

redsfan30
08-15-2005, 07:19 PM
Is the weather going to allow baseball tonight?

NC Reds
08-15-2005, 07:20 PM
We blow them out tonight. :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 07:23 PM
Is the weather going to allow baseball tonight?

Should.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 08:03 PM
Harang should have *no* problem holding the Giants under two runs tonight. That lineup is horrendous.

capndees
08-15-2005, 08:09 PM
Ever so close to being perfect ;)

Switch Griffey and Dunn, and they'd have it.

Gallen5862
08-15-2005, 08:12 PM
hi just got on any score?

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:16 PM
Winn lead off with a single, Vizquel popped out to Casey in foul territory, & Snow singled to right with Winn going to 3rd. 1st & 3rd 1 out for Feliz

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 08:16 PM
-Winn singles
-Vizquel popped out
-Snow singles on 0-2 pitch, Winn to third. 1 out.

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:19 PM
Feliz walks, bases loaded with 1 out

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 08:21 PM
Harang having an un-Harang like start...

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:21 PM
Harang goes 3-0 on Tucker, works it back to 3-2, and then Tucker Ks looking

Tony Cloninger
08-15-2005, 08:23 PM
Harang loves to have those 15-20 pitch innings....doesn't he?

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:25 PM
Harang proceeds to go 2-0 on Durham, but finds the strike zone earlier than he did with Tucker & throws 2 straight strikes before the count goes full and Durham Ks swinging. 31 pitches for Harang, no score middle of 1

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 08:25 PM
Whew. Pretty uncomfortable 1/2 inning.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 08:25 PM
Harang escaspes a jam but throws 31 pitches.

smith288
08-15-2005, 08:27 PM
Harang's a horse...that pitch count will even out

Tony Cloninger
08-15-2005, 08:28 PM
So i guess pitch to contact is in order for the 2nd inning?

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:30 PM
Freel fouls off the first 5 pitches, before taking a ball, then fouling another off, and taking strike 3. 1 out

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:31 PM
Lopez Ks swinging, 2 out

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:32 PM
Griffey.. GONE!! 1-0 Reds

reds44
08-15-2005, 08:32 PM
Jr!!!!!!!!!!

Dont Trade Him!

NavyRedsFan
08-15-2005, 08:33 PM
HR Jr. REDS 1-0

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 08:33 PM
He makes it look so easy...

Gallen5862
08-15-2005, 08:33 PM
Junior career homerun 528 Reds lead 1-0. :thumbup: :party: :rockband:

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 08:34 PM
Felipe now 9 for his last 68. He is simply wearing down from not being accustomed to playing a full 162-game schedule.

Big Klu
08-15-2005, 08:34 PM
Updated Reds HR list:

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Joe Morgan - 152
11. Pete Rose - 152
13. Adam Dunn - 151
14. Lee May - 147
15. Dan Driessen - 133
16. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 130
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 116
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:34 PM
Dunn.. GONE!! 2-0 Reds

reds44
08-15-2005, 08:34 PM
Back 2 Back

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 08:34 PM
He makes it look so easy...


Oh..and so does he

NavyRedsFan
08-15-2005, 08:35 PM
HR Dunn REDS 2-0

redsrule2500
08-15-2005, 08:35 PM
Nice HR's!!!

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 08:36 PM
So now Dunn's tied w/ Joe Morgan and Pete Rose? That's pretty good.

Big Klu
08-15-2005, 08:36 PM
Updated Reds HR list:

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Joe Morgan - 152
11. Pete Rose - 152
11. Adam Dunn - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Dan Driessen - 133
16. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 130
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 116
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

Gallen5862
08-15-2005, 08:36 PM
Adam dunn hits a adam bomb. 2-0 Reds.

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:36 PM
Casey almost HRs to right center, but its off the wall for a 2B

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 08:37 PM
Casey almost got one!

redsfanmia
08-15-2005, 08:37 PM
I wonder what the attendence is tonight, there looks like alot of fans dressed as empty seats.

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:38 PM
Kearns grounds out to short, 2-0 Reds after 1

smith288
08-15-2005, 08:38 PM
Did someone forget to pull the BP screen away from the mound?

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 08:39 PM
The more they talk about Jr. getting traded, the more down I start to feel. I know financially it would be good for the club, and prospects are good for the club, but like I've said before, I like baseball to be fun, and Griffey is fun to watch. We'll see what happens I guess. Good inning.

Kc61
08-15-2005, 08:41 PM
It would be easier to trade Griffey if Kearns/WMP were hitting.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 08:42 PM
The more they talk about Jr. getting traded, the more down I start to feel. I know financially it would be good for the club, and prospects are good for the club, but like I've said before, I like baseball to be fun, and Griffey is fun to watch. We'll see what happens I guess. Good inning.

I don't want him to go either...but it would help this club, financially. This team hasn't won with him, and that money can be used to lock Dunn up, and get pitching.

Plus...I want him to get a ring and he is running out of time

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Linden Ks looking, 1 out

butlerbulldogs
08-15-2005, 08:42 PM
there is no one there, i'd say 18k

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:43 PM
Matheny Ks swinging on 3 pitches, 2 out

redsrule2500
08-15-2005, 08:43 PM
Matheny K's, 4 straight Strikeouts

redsfanmia
08-15-2005, 08:45 PM
The more they talk about Jr. getting traded, the more down I start to feel. I know financially it would be good for the club, and prospects are good for the club, but like I've said before, I like baseball to be fun, and Griffey is fun to watch. We'll see what happens I guess. Good inning.
I feel the same way, I want him to stay but I want him to win a championship, IM SO CONFUSED!

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:45 PM
Correia grounds out to Lopez, Harang now at 45 pitches. 2-0 Reds middle of 2

TeamBoone
08-15-2005, 08:45 PM
So now Dunn's tied w/ Joe Morgan and Pete Rose? That's pretty good.

And, I'm assuming, in a much shorter time span?

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 08:45 PM
Sounds quiet as a coffin on TV. Wish more people would come out to the ballpark. They should move it to my backyard. I can't promise more people would show up, (in fact I can promise less people would show up) but I'd come everynight. ;)

TeamBoone
08-15-2005, 08:47 PM
The tennis masters is also going on in Cincy. Draws a ton.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 08:48 PM
Is Sharapova there?

Super_Barry11
08-15-2005, 08:48 PM
Sounds quiet as a coffin on TV. Wish more people would come out to the ballpark. They should move it to my backyard. I can't promise more people would show up, (in fact I can promise less people would show up) but I'd come everynight. ;)

I'm going on Wednesday. :thumbup: (Not to your backyard though, luckily for you!) :)

Big Klu
08-15-2005, 08:48 PM
And, I'm assuming, in a much shorter time span?

Joe Morgan (1972-79) -- 152 HRs
Pete Rose (1963-78, 84-86) -- 152 HRs
Adam Dunn (2001-05) -- 152 HRs

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 08:49 PM
And, I'm assuming, in a much shorter time span?

Atbats

Pete Rose-10,934
Joe Morgan-4,008.
Adam Dunn-2,119

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:50 PM
LaRue lines a single to left

Aronchis
08-15-2005, 08:51 PM
Getting Young back from the White Sox just wouldn't make the Griffey deal good, but great. That way we could deal Pena as well.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 08:51 PM
I'm going on Wednesday. :thumbup: (Not to your backyard though, luckily for you!) :)

Suit yourself, but I've got lots of beer and pizza rolls. :beerme:

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:52 PM
Encarnacion grounds into a 6-4-3. 2 out, no one on

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 08:54 PM
I wonder if the Reds have any scouts at the Birmingham Barons game(Chisox AA affiliate) tonight? Chris Young is 0 for 2 with a walk. Kris Honel tossed six shutout innings while recording nine strikeouts.

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:54 PM
Harang, who still doesn't look like he knows what he's doing at the plate, grounds out to short. 2-0 Reds after 2

Big Klu
08-15-2005, 08:54 PM
Drat that Omar! :p:

TeamBoone
08-15-2005, 08:55 PM
Team Morris and I are going Saturday night. My birthday present... Club Seats! And Team Casey is baby sitting.

I'm so excited!

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:57 PM
Winn drills one out to right-center, 2-1 Reds

redsfan30
08-15-2005, 08:59 PM
I'll be there Saturday as well for the fireworks.

It's a Monday night with questionable weather and there could be some schools back in session. Those kind of games aren't going to draw well, especially with the TMS in town.

Tornon
08-15-2005, 08:59 PM
Vizquel grounds out to Encarnacion, 1 out

capndees
08-15-2005, 09:00 PM
Dunn since All-Star Break (30 games):

.324/.425/.725, 11 HR, 31 RBI

Tornon
08-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Snow lines a single up the middle

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 09:02 PM
Harang has been less than impressive against the second worst offense in baseball.

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 09:04 PM
Gotta Love that Dunner has homered again!


34 and counting.....its gonna be a close call but if he can stay hot and stay "steady" he can do it I believe.

Tornon
08-15-2005, 09:05 PM
Feliz walks

Tornon
08-15-2005, 09:06 PM
Tucker lines out to Kearns, 2 out

Tornon
08-15-2005, 09:08 PM
Durham Ks looking on 3 pitches, Harang now at 71 pitches. 2-1 Reds middle of 3

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 09:08 PM
Kearns has been playing a nice RF lately.....

I don't care I want him to hit!

capndees
08-15-2005, 09:08 PM
Gotta Love that Dunner has homered again!


34 and counting.....its gonna be a close call but if he can stay hot and stay "steady" he can do it I believe.

Win the home run crown? If Jones ever cools off.

At the beginning of the year i predicted Dunn would lead the NL with 52, and Teixeira the AL with 47.

CTA513
08-15-2005, 09:09 PM
Harang has been less than impressive against the second worst offense in baseball.

Hes throwing almost nothing but fastballs with a few change ups and curve balls mixed in.

He goes 0-2 on Winn and throws a fastball right down the middle. :bang:

flyer85
08-15-2005, 09:11 PM
Hancock gave up 10R-6ER in 2IP tonight.

WMR
08-15-2005, 09:13 PM
watching junior go deep opposite field is a beautiful thing

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 09:14 PM
Felipe took two strikes and then swung at a pitch in the dirt, according to Gameday.

RBA
08-15-2005, 09:15 PM
KEN GRIFFEY SINGLES 2 FOR 2 ON THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 09:17 PM
KEN GRIFFEY SINGLES 2 FOR 2 ON THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!

what?

RBA
08-15-2005, 09:18 PM
BIG ADAM DUNN WALKS!

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 09:18 PM
RBA needs a sedative or something.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 09:18 PM
Correia pitched around Dunn. Two on for Casey.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2005, 09:19 PM
BIG ADAM DUNN WALKS!

Freakazoid. Wind me up.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 09:21 PM
Linden homers.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 09:22 PM
Linden? Who is he?

It's amazing how good the Reds pitching can make a bunch of nobodys....hopefully they stop now

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 09:23 PM
Hancock only survives 2 innings in LOU tonight, giving up 10 runs



I'd say he's ready :p:

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 09:24 PM
Is Winn a triple away from the cycle? Good Lord.

capndees
08-15-2005, 09:30 PM
Linden? Who is he?

Todd Linden, career (54 games):

.181/.252/.290, 3 HR, 14 RBI

The next Barry Bonds, no doubt.

CTA513
08-15-2005, 09:31 PM
Harang is getting guys to chance that breaking pitch, but still hasnt thrown it much.

NC Reds
08-15-2005, 09:33 PM
Ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 09:33 PM
Kearns absolutley CRUSHED that ball!

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 09:36 PM
Larue arguing...calling the ump a stupid dummy who sucks! :D

Falls City Beer
08-15-2005, 09:37 PM
This game is moving at crock-pot pace.

TeamBoone
08-15-2005, 09:38 PM
Larue arguing...calling the ump a stupid dummy who sucks! :D

:p: I noticed that too.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 09:38 PM
Dunn, Griffey and Kearns homer in the same game for the second time in the last seven days.

capndees
08-15-2005, 09:39 PM
Kearns absolutley CRUSHED that ball!

LOL...Tonight is Game 1 of Season 3 for Kearns!

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 09:40 PM
LOL...Tonight is Game 1 of Season 3 for Kearns!

Third tries a charm.

WMR
08-15-2005, 09:49 PM
Griff now 6 hr from Foxx & 8 from the Mick

CTA513
08-15-2005, 09:51 PM
the defense sure isnt helping Harang out.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 09:51 PM
This is not Harang's night....it happens.

Maybe sit him after this

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 09:51 PM
Nine hits and two walks allowed vs the second worst offense.

WMR
08-15-2005, 09:52 PM
Giants now up one. 4-3 Giants

Aronchis
08-15-2005, 09:52 PM
the defense sure isnt helping Harang out.

Neither is Harang pitching junk to junk hitters.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 09:53 PM
We need some more back to back homers.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2005, 09:53 PM
Nine hits and two walks allowed vs the second worst offense.

The Giants got schooled by the Marlins' pitching staff over the weekend.

Aronchis
08-15-2005, 09:58 PM
Somebody needs to give Freel and Lopez the smelling salts.

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 09:59 PM
Kearns has been playing a nice RF lately.....

I don't care I want him to hit!

seems like every time i say he needs to get it going he comes up with a big hit.

Way to go austin!

WMR
08-15-2005, 10:00 PM
Wow... Reds have best record in NL since All-Star break

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 10:00 PM
Dunn, Griffey and Kearns homer in the same game for the second time in the last seven days.


its a beautiful thing

RBA
08-15-2005, 10:00 PM
KEN GRIFFEY JR. WALKS!!! BIG DUNN UP!!!!

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 10:05 PM
Kearns absolutley CRUSHED that ball!

where was it? To left field, center field, or right field?

RBA
08-15-2005, 10:06 PM
*******SEAN CASEY WALKS BASES LOADED**************

capndees
08-15-2005, 10:07 PM
Dunn's reached all 3 True Outcomes tonight....now he can relax and hit some ground balls.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:07 PM
Kearns is getting pretty good at giving souvineers to the fans behind the dugouts. Hold the bat, Austin!

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 10:07 PM
Kearns must be using vasoline rather than pine tar

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:09 PM
I guess tickets to reds games are pretty good. See some homeruns, probably get to take a bat home.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:10 PM
He threw the bat again!!!!!!!!!!

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 10:10 PM
:lol:

remdog
08-15-2005, 10:11 PM
The Giants appear to be pitching Kearnes inside, at least in this AB. Is it possible that they don't think he can get around on an inside pitch?

Rem

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 10:12 PM
that sucks.

Kearns just didn't come through there after a great AB.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:13 PM
Looks like Dunn yet again struckout on a bad pitch down. I don't remember him chasing that many bad pitches last season. If can learn to lay off that like he did the high and tight pitch, then he will be that much better.

Kearns swung at ball four.

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 10:15 PM
does kearns appear uncoordinated or what sometimes, just like, ugly technique

KearnsyEars
08-15-2005, 10:15 PM
Looks like Dunn yet again struckout on a bad pitch down. I don't remember him chasing that many bad pitches last season. If can learn to lay off that like he did the high and tight pitch, then he will be that much better.

Kearns swung at ball four.

but he is striking out at a lesser pace then last year and overall having better #'s per game

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:16 PM
Winn hits for the cycle.

CTA513
08-15-2005, 10:17 PM
lol Reds are giving this game away, what a joke.

Falls City Beer
08-15-2005, 10:17 PM
Keisler. Turd feast.

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 10:17 PM
Kiesler is just stellar...

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:18 PM
Forget Ruhl coming out, get Narron out there. Keisler's got nuthin tonight.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2005, 10:18 PM
isn't the keisler experiment over yet?

Aronchis
08-15-2005, 10:19 PM
I remember when people were getting all hyped up with Keisler. I wouldn't be surprised if his frail body is ill again. He never has pitched overly healthy.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:19 PM
but he is striking out at a lesser pace then last year and overall having better #'s per game

Dunn is having a spectacular season, I was just pointing out that if he can adjust to that pitch it will make him an even better player.

CTA513
08-15-2005, 10:20 PM
Narron must have given up on this game.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2005, 10:21 PM
4 straight runners reach base...how sickening...way to keep us in the game, dude :thumbdown

NC Reds
08-15-2005, 10:22 PM
Keisler is playing his way off the 40-man roster.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:22 PM
Narron must have given up on this game.

Maybe his knees hurt. Used to be a catcher and all.

Red in Chicago
08-15-2005, 10:22 PM
hey jerry, you're about 3 batters tooooooo late

RFS62
08-15-2005, 10:23 PM
Todd cracks me up sprinting in from the bullpen

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 10:23 PM
Keisler is playing his way off the 40-man roster.

He'll go when Hancock comes back...

Super_Barry11
08-15-2005, 10:23 PM
Geez Randy... :(

Well, at least Coffey's in now... Getting to see him sprint in from the bullpen is always fun. :)

WMR
08-15-2005, 10:25 PM
LOL Steve Stewart is talking about what a great performance Coffey had yesterday... all 3 outs were hit EXTREMELY hard, just right at ppl. Not a good performance at all.

redsrule2500
08-15-2005, 10:27 PM
7 - 3 Giants :( :(

Aronchis
08-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Did Coffey really touch 96mph last year?

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Tonight looks more like the Reds...

NC Reds
08-15-2005, 10:28 PM
I hate getting thumped by a bad team. We should have put them away early.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:30 PM
Tonight looks more like the Reds...

Hey, yeah, I remember this! It's the Reds! All kidding aside, winning is fun, but our pitching sucks.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:35 PM
EE hits a one out double. Wily Mo pinch hitting for Coffey.

Pena walks on four pitches. :eek:

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:38 PM
FYI, the Reds have scored exactly 600 runs this season... fourth best in the majors.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:38 PM
Let's make it 605 and win this damn game.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:40 PM
Freel grounded into a double play. :rolleyes:

redsrule2500
08-15-2005, 10:41 PM
It's the curse of George Grande!!!!!! AHHH!!

CTA513
08-15-2005, 10:56 PM
This home plate ump should lose his job.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:56 PM
Bottom 7

-Lopez struckout
-Griffey popped out
-Dunn got ahead 3-0, called strike, flyout. It seems like Dunn has been doing that way too much lately...getting ahead 3-0 and finding a way to get out. It's happened atleast three or four times in the last week and a half. To be fair that 3-0 pitch looked high.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 10:57 PM
This home plate ump should lose his job.

What did he do?

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 10:57 PM
Nice. Dunn.

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 10:58 PM
Yeah, that 3-0 pitch was shoulder high. Nice catch on the wall for Dunn.

KronoRed
08-15-2005, 11:00 PM
Bottom 7

-Lopez struckout
-Griffey popped out
-Dunn got ahead 3-0, called strike, flyout. It seems like Dunn has been doing that way too much lately...getting ahead 3-0 and finding a way to get out. It's happened atleast three or four times in the last week and a half.

Hopefully it won't go on, a walk is better then an out.

flyer85
08-15-2005, 11:05 PM
What did he do?the 3-0 pitch he called a strike on Dunn was 8-10 inches higher than any pitch he had called a strike the entire game. The Reds bench was all over him.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 11:13 PM
the 3-0 pitch he called a strike on Dunn was 8-10 inches higher than any pitch he had called a strike the entire game. The Reds bench was all over him.

I've only caught about 15 games on TV or live in person this season but from what I've seen, the strikezone on Dunn is from his knees to his shoulders.

I watched the Cubs-Cards game last night and noticed something. The only way you can get a strike on Pujols is if it's right down the middle or he swings at it. They give him the Bonds strikezone. Albert Pujols and Anderson Machado should have the same strikezone. A 20 year vet and rookie should have the same strikezone. This special treatment for great hitters is crap!

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 11:17 PM
Belisle's in to pitch. Wonder which Belisle'll show up. Wonder if it matter's. Also, Freel's quad is acting up again.

oneupper
08-15-2005, 11:22 PM
I've only caught about 15 games on TV or live in person this season but from what I've seen, the strikezone on Dunn is from his knees to his shoulders.

I watched the Cubs-Cards game last night and noticed something. The only way you can get a strike on Pujols is if it's right down the middle or he swings at it. They give him the Bonds strikezone. Albert Pujols and Anderson Machado should have the same strikezone. A 20 year vet and rookie should have the same strikezone. This special treatment for great hitters is crap!

You even all that up with an automatic strike zone (Robo-ump). Still, lots of people think humans are "better". I don't understand it.

OnBaseMachine
08-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Belisle sends them down in order.

WMR
08-15-2005, 11:26 PM
Tonight's attendance: 17,777

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 11:27 PM
I really like Flippy, but he is BAD right now. 3 K's and a walk tonight. Slump? Maybe after being in the league full time for long enough there's some kind of book on how to pitch him? Anyone?

KronoRed
08-15-2005, 11:29 PM
Tonight's attendance: 17,777

A lot of them came as seats ;)

Matt700wlw
08-15-2005, 11:30 PM
Felipe Alou delaying the inevitable :help:

flyer85
08-15-2005, 11:31 PM
Felipe Alou delaying the inevitable :help:certasin managers just love to overmanage

Gainesville Red
08-15-2005, 11:33 PM
Casey K's. This one most certainly doesn't belong to the Reds. We'll get em tommorow.

flyer85
08-15-2005, 11:34 PM
I think I would try EE in the leadoff spot tomorrow

oneupper
08-15-2005, 11:34 PM
That was a "i'm tired, I want to home call'' by the ump.

jmcclain19
08-15-2005, 11:54 PM
I've only caught about 15 games on TV or live in person this season but from what I've seen, the strikezone on Dunn is from his knees to his shoulders.

I watched the Cubs-Cards game last night and noticed something. The only way you can get a strike on Pujols is if it's right down the middle or he swings at it. They give him the Bonds strikezone. Albert Pujols and Anderson Machado should have the same strikezone. A 20 year vet and rookie should have the same strikezone. This special treatment for great hitters is crap!

Greg Maddux has made his late career over his wide strike zone.

Things are better - there is no more Eric Gregg in the NLCS giving livan Hernandez a seven foot wide plate, but discrepency still exists in abundance

WVRedsFan
08-16-2005, 12:56 AM
The last two games have proven one thing...well several.

Ryan Freel and Felipe Lopez are in horrible slumps. FeLo's BA is down to .273 and falling. Freel has an injury and he's not hitting well either. Both were over .300 at the AS break with OBP's near .400. Now, they are almost automatic outs. We can't afford that and win.

For those who advocate trading Griffey (to shore up money so the Reds can sign the next Eric Milton) or Dunn, look what our offense would have been without them tonight. They were the offense, as good players always are. I still contend that a Reds offense without Junior and Dunn (or either one of them) is pretty damn sorry. Together they have 164 RBI's. Next closest is Lopez with 56 (see slump above. Then comes Randa with 48 (he's not here anymore) and Casey with 47. After Rich Aurilia with 45, it drops off fast.

Randy "Special" K is stinking up the joint. Leave him on the bench, Jerry. The opposition doesn't need batting practice at our expense. And when you realize he doesn't have it if you must bring him in, quit having that pained look on your face and do the right thing...yank him out of there. I still think you need to just let him rot in the bullpen. And don't wait for Hancock to come back. He has just as many problems.

If Lopez starts hitting and Freel can stay healthy (which I think at this point is simply a pipe dream) and we somehow decide that no matter how much money we save from getting rid of the Kid or Dunn won't give us Roger Clemons, but Sidney Ponson, this club can get to .500. Oh yeah..and our two best starters--Claussen and Harang--get the support they need. It's hard to fathom that those two guys are the only two who have lost in the last seven games. In order to win, this team must score runs and any lineup minus Griffey and Dunn will not.

Aronchis
08-16-2005, 01:15 AM
The last two games have proven one thing...well several.

Ryan Freel and Felipe Lopez are in horrible slumps. FeLo's BA is down to .273 and falling. Freel has an injury and he's not hitting well either. Both were over .300 at the AS break with OBP's near .400. Now, they are almost automatic outs. We can't afford that and win.

For those who advocate trading Griffey (to shore up money so the Reds can sign the next Eric Milton) or Dunn, look what our offense would have been without them tonight. They were the offense, as good players always are. I still contend that a Reds offense without Junior and Dunn (or either one of them) is pretty damn sorry. Together they have 164 RBI's. Next closest is Lopez with 56 (see slump above. Then comes Randa with 48 (he's not here anymore) and Casey with 47. After Rich Aurilia with 45, it drops off fast.

Randy "Special" K is stinking up the joint. Leave him on the bench, Jerry. The opposition doesn't need batting practice at our expense. And when you realize he doesn't have it if you must bring him in, quit having that pained look on your face and do the right thing...yank him out of there. I still think you need to just let him rot in the bullpen. And don't wait for Hancock to come back. He has just as many problems.

If Lopez starts hitting and Freel can stay healthy (which I think at this point is simply a pipe dream) and we somehow decide that no matter how much money we save from getting rid of the Kid or Dunn won't give us Roger Clemons, but Sidney Ponson, this club can get to .500. Oh yeah..and our two best starters--Claussen and Harang--get the support they need. It's hard to fathom that those two guys are the only two who have lost in the last seven games. In order to win, this team must score runs and any lineup minus Griffey and Dunn will not.

Then Griffey get injured next year. Don't be shortsighted. Griffey also will be 36 years old and the White Sox are dangling a great prospect like Young in front of your place, a good defensive CENTERFIELDER by the way, you better be talking and Lindner better be dealing. It opens so many possibilities.

WVRedsFan
08-16-2005, 01:23 AM
Then Griffey get injured next year. Don't be shortsighted. Griffey also will be 36 years old and the White Sox are dangling a great prospect like Young in front of your place, a good defensive CENTERFIELDER by the way, you better be talking and Lindner better be dealing. It opens so many possibilities.

Will he have 80+ RBI's and 26 homers by August? Are you sure Junior will get hurt. Or are you so sure Young will not get hurt? Are you prepared to pay all those millions to watch Griffey get to 600 homeruns, because that's what any deal will contain?

I'm certainly glad the Yankees and Red Sox didn't have that attitude as Mantle and Williams came to the end of their careers.