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Gallen5862
08-21-2005, 04:35 PM
"This one belongs to the Reds."

cincy_reds26
08-21-2005, 04:38 PM
Don't mean to be a nag since i just started posting but could you please not cuss?

reds44
08-21-2005, 04:39 PM
Don't mean to be a nag since i just started posting but could you please not cuss?

:bang:

LvJ
08-21-2005, 04:39 PM
Don't mean to be a nag since i just started posting but could you please not cuss? Werd.

Not allowed here, Casey_21.

Casey_21
08-21-2005, 04:40 PM
Don't mean to be a nag since i just started posting but could you please not cuss?

SORRY!! :rolleyes:

Casey_21
08-21-2005, 04:43 PM
Werd.

Not allowed here, Casey_21.

So am I allowed to be direct to one person??? I don't think that I am... Taking that into consideration, I don't think I am the only one in the wrong.

Falls City Beer
08-21-2005, 04:45 PM
Yeah, I agree that Casey 21 isn't the only person leveling insults in this thread.

Tony Cloninger
08-21-2005, 04:54 PM
The last few posts remind me of the PRE-POINTS Redszone.......where you could insult with impunity and not be banished to the minors.

TC81190
08-21-2005, 05:29 PM
Check out the Reds home site. Says JUAN Encarnacion went deep. :doh:

PuffyPig
08-21-2005, 05:38 PM
Maybe they don't have an extra locker for his ego?

Gee, if ego's weren't allowed in the locker room, nobody could field a team.

Teams tend to worry less about reputed ego's and more about production, especially come playoff time.

You've got Minnesota with Castro as the best MI by far. It looks like Rolen is out for the year, surely the Cards could use another MI/thirdbaseman to help cover for him. Aurilla isn't that much a worse fielder than Eckstein (who could be?), and about 100 points better in OPS.

westofyou
08-21-2005, 05:41 PM
Teams tend to worry less about reputed ego's and more about production, especially come playoff time.

Yet there sits Rich in his home whites.. still a Red.

Rich Aurilia played in the AL last year and gave everyone a taste of what he could do there and no one has yet to bite on him. Plus on turf he would be extra slow and wouldn't have those incredible GAB splits to hoist his game up beyond acceptable.

TC81190
08-21-2005, 05:44 PM
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
2005 109 424 71 119 26 4 18 62 207 40 80 12 4 .340 .488 .281


G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
2005 83 311 51 86 14 2 13 51 143 27 50 0 0 .331 .460 .277

Lopez on top, Aurilia bottom. 28 point SLG difference, 9 in OBP. Rich Aurilia is Lopez - defense & speed. Can we stop the freakin' bashing already? :rolleyes:

westofyou
08-21-2005, 05:54 PM
Rich Aurilia is Lopez - defense & speed. Can we stop the freakin' bashing already? :rolleyes:

Yes minus all the aspects that make a middle infielder worth something we can somehow make it look like they are the same player.

TC81190
08-21-2005, 05:57 PM
He does play 3B.

westofyou
08-21-2005, 06:00 PM
He does play 3B.

True, not the best range there but he does in fact play some third, he can grow facial hair fast too.

TC81190
08-21-2005, 06:04 PM
The Rockies should have bit on him and put him at 3B. WHo they got there right now? Garret Atkins?

KronoRed
08-21-2005, 06:05 PM
Lopez can also play 3rd, logging 673 innings there in his career

PuffyPig
08-21-2005, 06:21 PM
I assume no one is argueing that Aurilla is in Lopez's class because he isn't. Defense for a SS is worth about half the exation, and the difference between the 2 on defense is immense.

But Aurilla has been the Reds best hitter this year with RISP, has been incredibly for half the season and, today, looks like a better player than Randa for the rest of the season.

Yet, no one seems to want him.

I can't believe that, and that's considering all of Aurilla's warts. Thaere are simply too many teams with crap playing in the infield for Aurilla to be overlooked.

I really believe he will be moved before the end of the month.

Kc61
08-21-2005, 06:21 PM
WMP will be fine. Just pencil him into CF and watch him grow. His troubles in the OF primarily come when he's in RF. Because of the slice off the bat of right-handed hitters, it takes either experience of feel to properly judge the trajectory. Unfortunately, WMP has neither. Not to say he never will. Sosa was just one of many terrible young right-fielders and he matured into a tolerable fielder. In CF, WMP seems to have much more success judging the ball off the bat. Problem is, WMP is young and getting very little experience sitting the pine.

This is a very wise post. In my view, WMP is getting shafted. The Reds are determined to let Kearns play his way back into shape, and WMP is not playing because of this decision. He is only 23, is a powerhouse, and should be playing much more. If the Reds trade him to make room for Kearns or to enable them to keep Casey, they will sorely regret that decision.

Gainesville Red
08-21-2005, 11:06 PM
Once again, would have been nice to watch on TV. (EI)

WVRedsFan
08-21-2005, 11:21 PM
Once again, would have been nice to watch on TV. (EI)

I've noticed that a lot of west coast teams don't have much TV coverage. It might be the lack of Fox Sports stations in the west, i don't know. I fault FSN-Ohio for this problem, but it was nice to listen to the home crew call a whole ballgame for a change.

Big Klu
08-22-2005, 01:13 AM
WMP will be fine. Just pencil him into CF and watch him grow. His troubles in the OF primarily come when he's in RF. Because of the slice off the bat of right-handed hitters, it takes either experience of feel to properly judge the trajectory. Unfortunately, WMP has neither. Not to say he never will. Sosa was just one of many terrible young right-fielders and he matured into a tolerable fielder. In CF, WMP seems to have much more success judging the ball off the bat. Problem is, WMP is young and getting very little experience sitting the pine.


I agree that Peņa's best defensive position (by far) is CF. I seem to remember that he made several great plays when he was playing CF regularly last year. When I was younger, I played in the outfield sometimes. (1B was my best position, but we also had a player who only played 1B, so I also played in the OF on occasion.) I played all three outfield positions, but I liked CF the best of the three, because I could get the truest read on fly balls (no hook or slice). If only I didn't lack the speed to play there...but I digress. I think that WMP is/can be much better in CF than he is in LF or RF because he also gets better reads there. And unlike myself, he does have the speed to play there! But as others have said, regular playing time is essential to his growth.

Big Klu
08-22-2005, 01:20 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Joe Morgan - 152
11. Pete Rose - 152
11. Adam Dunn - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Dan Driessen - 133
16. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 132
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 117
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

fielder's choice
08-22-2005, 08:51 AM
With two hits against the D'backs, Griffey's average is up to .295

DoogMinAmo
08-22-2005, 01:28 PM
With two hits against the D'backs, Griffey's average is up to .295

:eek:

KronoRed
08-22-2005, 01:59 PM
.300 is what it's all about ;)

fielder's choice
08-22-2005, 02:03 PM
Yep, Griffey's almost as good as Casey now. :p:

klw
08-22-2005, 02:36 PM
And Davey C is still holding off Gordy Coleman, whose HR drought continues.