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Puffy
09-02-2005, 12:56 PM
"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a
wicked city. From 'Girls Gone Wild' to 'Southern Decadence', New Orleans was
a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. May it
never be the same. Let us pray for those ravaged by this disaster. However,
we must not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed
the wickedness in their city for so long,"

- Michael Marcavage, in a statement from the evangelical Christian group, "Repent America," issued today (09/02/2005).

P.S. - I can move this to the new board if that is what the mods want.

GAC
09-02-2005, 02:13 PM
No - you just need to repent. :lol:

I really have a hard time with those who feel they need to attach God to every natural disaster that strikes this planet. Just read on another thread where a Muslim (Kuwaiti) said the hurricane was Allah punishing America for it's treatment of Arabs. Now we got an evangelical saying it's punishment on this country for an open display and promotion of sin. Why just New Orleans then?

"Now aren't they special"

http://www.netwmd.com/articles/dana.jpg

RedsBaron
09-02-2005, 02:16 PM
Why just New Orleans then?



http://www.netwmd.com/articles/dana.jpg
Exactly.

M2
09-02-2005, 02:29 PM
Turns my stomach when religious types spin tragedy to push their brand of salvation. You could just as easily argue that God's punishing the U.S. for having Bush, and all that he stands for, in the White House, though you'd be just as wrong-headed and chumply if you did.

I sometimes wonder if they can conceive of a world where what's happening isn't necessarily about them.

Heath
09-02-2005, 02:38 PM
Repent America probably just pulled a stunt that might be (dare I quote) 'Talibansque'. He does not speak for the MAJORITY of Christians in that matter.

A majority of Christians are much more level-headed.

KronoRed
09-02-2005, 02:53 PM
I just love when people like this spout off and end up painting every Christian as an evil heartless jackass.

Have we all forgotten.. God = Love??

:bang:

BuckeyeRedleg
09-02-2005, 02:57 PM
I wonder how he even knows about 'Girls Gone Wild' ?

Guys like this remind me of brother Jed from my days at OSU.

savafan
09-02-2005, 03:03 PM
I wonder how he even knows about 'Girls Gone Wild' ?



Well, if you watch TV from 2:00 AM until 4:00 AM, the GGW infomercial is about the only thing on.

Just sayin'.

pedro
09-02-2005, 03:06 PM
I wonder how he even knows about 'Girls Gone Wild' ?

Guys like this remind me of brother Jed from my days at OSU.

Turn or Burn BuckeyRedleg, Turn or Burn.

Let me tell you a story about "lusty Linda" and "Harlot Heather".......

they liked to FORN NI CATE.

BuckeyeRedleg
09-02-2005, 03:07 PM
Yes, if he's watching Howard Stern or something similar to it at 2:00 AM until 4:00 AM, those advertisements are common.

Wonder what this guy thinks of Vegas.

pedro
09-02-2005, 03:08 PM
http://www.brojed.org/Images/Mvc-016.jpg

smith288
09-02-2005, 04:06 PM
THese are the types that throw Bibles at you as you walk by on the street for wearing jeans instead of dress slacks. They dont represent me and I am an evangelical.

savafan
09-02-2005, 04:16 PM
THese are the types that throw Bibles at you as you walk by on the street for wearing jeans instead of dress slacks. They dont represent me and I am an evangelical.

A funny thing happened to me once while visiting the community college in Piqua, Edison State Community College. I walked out of the building to catch some fresh air, and stood there, at the time with long hair, earring and some rock band t-shirt on. One of those people you mentioned was standing outside handing out New Testaments and wanted to "witness" to me. Now, I grew up in the Brethren Church, which broke off from the Mennonites, and I spent five years as a youth leader. I also served three years on the Brethren Church Board. Many of my colleagues turned their nose up to me because of my personal appearance, and I knew that this guy was doing the same.

I allowed him a few minutes to tell me that I needed to accept Jesus or I was going to hell, all the while trying to keep a straight face. When he asked me if he could pray for me, I said sure, and stood there outside and held hands with him and bowed my head. After he prayed for me, it was my turn. I said, "Lord Jesus, please help this brother of mine not to judge people based just on how the look, and try to get to know others and see their hearts. And Lord, thank you for coming into my heart on June 12, 1992. In your name I pray, Amen."

I thanked him for his time, and left him standing there speechless as I re-entered the building.

WVRedsFan
09-02-2005, 04:27 PM
Sava:

That was a beautiful way to handle that situation.

:clap:

pahster
09-02-2005, 04:56 PM
I wonder how he even knows about 'Girls Gone Wild' ?

Guys like this remind me of brother Jed from my days at OSU.

I go to MIZZOU. Brother Jed lives here in Columbia now. I see him on a weekly basis. :p:

RedsBaron
09-02-2005, 06:35 PM
A funny thing happened to me once while visiting the community college in Piqua, Edison State Community College. I walked out of the building to catch some fresh air, and stood there, at the time with long hair, earring and some rock band t-shirt on. One of those people you mentioned was standing outside handing out New Testaments and wanted to "witness" to me. Now, I grew up in the Brethren Church, which broke off from the Mennonites, and I spent five years as a youth leader. I also served three years on the Brethren Church Board. Many of my colleagues turned their nose up to me because of my personal appearance, and I knew that this guy was doing the same.

I allowed him a few minutes to tell me that I needed to accept Jesus or I was going to hell, all the while trying to keep a straight face. When he asked me if he could pray for me, I said sure, and stood there outside and held hands with him and bowed my head. After he prayed for me, it was my turn. I said, "Lord Jesus, please help this brother of mine not to judge people based just on how the look, and try to get to know others and see their hearts. And Lord, thank you for coming into my heart on June 12, 1992. In your name I pray, Amen."

I thanked him for his time, and left him standing there speechless as I re-entered the building. :clap: Excellent.

Mr Red
09-02-2005, 09:51 PM
Brother Jed must get around.....he was at Ohio University in the early 90's preaching out on the green.

pedro
09-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Brother Jed must get around.....he was at Ohio University in the early 90's preaching out on the green.

That's where I saw him.

Good times. :)

Yachtzee
09-02-2005, 10:55 PM
Brother Jed must get around.....he was at Ohio University in the early 90's preaching out on the green.

Yep, I think he used to hit all the OH universities at that time. He used to show up at Kent State every spring in the late '80s - early 90's.

flyer85
09-02-2005, 11:57 PM
From an American point of view this is a major disaster. From a global point of a view this is a minor one.

Tony Cloninger
09-03-2005, 02:09 AM
What kind of "sin" does the Miss. gulf coast indulge in?
Are they being punished for their river casinos?

GAC
09-03-2005, 05:37 AM
As an evangelical - I believe in the 2nd Coming of Christ and the future judgment of God (Revelations). But I also believe in the period that the apostle Paul spoke of that began with Christ's resurrection, and lasts until that fateful future time, called the "Time of The Gentiles" - or as some refer it as "the dispensation of grace".

Until the fulfilment of that time, I do not believe that God is up there throwing "zingers" at this planet and it's populace to either remind them or torment them before that appointed time. Just doesn't make since to me personally AND from a Biblical perspective. Yes, God utilized it at times in the old covenant. But people need to understand that that covenant no longer exists. It has been replaced by a new covenant. And it's just not evident in the new.

Paul stated in Romans, chapter 8 that "the whole creation (i.e entire physical universe) has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.... for the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay."

"subjected to frustration" - in the Greek means to "wander aimlessly as without purpose and direction".

The phrase "the will of the one who subjected it" is referring to Adam (man), not God, according to most theologians.

The whole of creation longs for it's release and transformation from the curse (Genesis 3) and it's effects.

And sadly enough - natural disasters are a result of that creation in turmoil.

registerthis
09-06-2005, 09:47 AM
http://www.brojed.org/Images/Mvc-016.jpg :eek:

That's a face I never wanted to see again.

RANDY IN INDY
09-06-2005, 10:12 AM
Romans 8:28 says, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." For those of us who believe in God, I don't think it does any good for us to speculate on what he does, particularly when we don't understand it. It says in Isaiah 55:8, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord." I Corinthians 13:12 tells us, "For now we see through a glass darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am know." The whole chapter speaks clearly to the charity that all Christians should be exhibiting in the face of this disaster. I believe that God is a sovreign, and that even though many of the things that happen, make no sense to us whatsover, it all is for a purpose. It doesn't change the fact that as humans, we find some of these things hard to accept. The only solace that I can find in such terrible situations is to know that God is still in charge, and that his purposes and plans are far greater than I could ever understand.

Rychian
09-06-2005, 10:20 AM
Let me be the first to apologize for what the Repent America people are saying.

Sorry.

Tom

KronoRed
09-06-2005, 01:45 PM
From an American point of view this is a major disaster. From a global point of a view this is a minor one.

I dunno, 10,000 potentially dead counts as major in most places.

flyer85
09-06-2005, 02:21 PM
For a little perspective

1931 Yangtze River flood - ~3.7 million dead.
1971 severe flooding in North Vietnam, killing 100,000.
1970 Bangladesh Cyclone - 300,000- 500,000 people dead.
1991 Bangladesh Cyclone - 138,000 dead.
2004 Southeast Asia Tsunami - 283,000+ dead.
1976 Earthquake Tangshan, China - 255,000 dead
1927 Earthquake near Xining, China - 200,000 dead
1920 Earthquake Gansu, China - 200,000 dead
1923 Earthquake Kwanto, Japan - 143,000 dead
Chinese Famine of 1907- Over 24 million perish from starvation
Chinese Drought 1941-1942- Over 3 million perish from starvation
Indian Drought of 1965-1967- Over 1.5 million perish in India

BTW, I don't know who is to blame for any of these.

Puffy
09-06-2005, 02:38 PM
BTW, I don't know who is to blame for any of these.

Bob Boone.

LoganBuck
09-06-2005, 11:34 PM
From an American point of view this is a major disaster. From a global point of a view this is a minor one.

My European associates do not agree with that. Their media keeps showing the poor and downtrodden in the mess that is NO. Then they show file footage of Bush playing golf, probably from F911. The European media was absolutely astounded that Bush was re elected. They blame him for Katrina.