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RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 06:18 PM
Milwaukee Brewers
Name AVG HR RBI
Brady Clark CF .306 10 42
Rickie Weeks 2B .246 12 35
Lyle Overbay 1B .273 16 64
Carlos Lee LF .267 30 100
Geoff Jenkins RF .284 20 72
Wes Helms 3B .300 4 22
Damian Miller C .262 7 36
J.J. Hardy SS .226 5 35
Tomo Ohka P .119 0 0

Cincinnati Reds
Name AVG HR RBI
Felipe Lopez SS .277 19 66
Rich Aurilia 2B .268 13 54
Adam Dunn LF .248 35 87
Austin Kearns RF .251 13 53
Sean Casey 1B .321 9 53
Jason LaRue C .265 11 53
Wily Mo Pena CF .267 16 43
Edwin Encarnacion 3B .234 5 17
Brandon Claussen P .048 0 0

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 06:31 PM
Dunn get's his first crack at hitting in the three hole this season.

captainmorgan07
09-05-2005, 06:33 PM
why is willy mo playing center and not kearns he's a circus in the outfield

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 06:37 PM
Tonight will mark the first time since July 11, 2004, that Dunn has hit third in the lineup. He went 1 for 4 with a double and a walk. He scored once. The Reds won the game against the Brew Crew 9-6 at Milwaukee.

KronoRed
09-05-2005, 06:39 PM
Dunn batting 3rd is nice..I was afraid it would be Casey

Chip R
09-05-2005, 06:41 PM
why is willy mo playing center and not kearns he's a circus in the outfield
Believe it or not WMP is better in CF than he is in LF or RF. He's got the best wheels out there and the ball isn't hooking or slicing like it does to RF or LF.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 06:46 PM
why is willy mo playing center and not kearns he's a circus in the outfield

Because Peņa is better in CF than he is at either of the corner positions.


Position FLD% (UGHHH) RF ZR
CF .986 3.08 .885
RF .964 1.97 .821
LF .917 1.48 .724

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 06:47 PM
Believe it or not WMP is better in CF than he is in LF or RF. He's got the best wheels out there and the ball isn't hooking or slicing like it does to RF or LF.

:p:

:D

captainmorgan07
09-05-2005, 06:52 PM
well u all proved me wrong he does have a better fielding percentage in center

PuffyPig
09-05-2005, 06:55 PM
well u all proved me wrong he does have a better fielding percentage in center

Fielding percentage is a very poor guage in measuring fielding ability.

ochre
09-05-2005, 07:03 PM
Dunn get's his first crack at hitting in the three hole this season.
that says a whole lot right there. Best offensive threat on the team has spent more time in the 7th slot than the 3rd slot.

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 07:08 PM
No TV this whole homestand....

capndees
09-05-2005, 07:10 PM
Meanwhile, its nice to know that incompetence doesn't only exist in Cincinnati. Russ Branyan, despite leading the team in OPS, in only a part time player at 3B, because he "strikes out too much".

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 07:14 PM
that says a whole lot right there. Best offensive threat on the team has spent more time in the 7th slot than the 3rd slot.

The game I mentioned earlier, the one from 2004, was the only game Dunn hit in the 3rd spot that season too.

Dunn has more AB's in the 9th spot (Pinch hits) the last two seasons than he does the 3 hole.

PuffyPig
09-05-2005, 07:18 PM
that says a whole lot right there. Best offensive threat on the team has spent more time in the 7th slot than the 3rd slot.

Don't forget Griffey.

Joseph
09-05-2005, 07:29 PM
0-0 End of 1.

WVRedsFan
09-05-2005, 07:31 PM
No TV this whole homestand....

Unless you have DirecTv and EI. Milwaukee announcers but on Channel 742.

Ron Madden
09-05-2005, 07:32 PM
Marty and Hal were just sayin' that Denorfia may join the club tomorow.

WVRedsFan
09-05-2005, 07:32 PM
Claussen allows a hit, but gets the side out without damage. 0-0 in the middle of the second.

Any news on Griffey??

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 07:36 PM
Claussen allows a hit, but gets the side out without damage. 0-0 in the middle of the second.

Any news on Griffey??

It appears he is not limping at all and on the outside, you can't even tell he's hurt.

Marty said Narron probably won't put him in the lineup until at least Friday

OnBaseMachine
09-05-2005, 07:37 PM
Any news on Griffey??


Notes: Junior listed as day-to-day
MRI exam reveals outfielder's right foot is strained
By Anthony Castrovince / MLB.com

CINCINNATI -- Ken Griffey Jr.'s right foot is hardly 100 percent.

"I can't kick anybody yet," he said with a smile.

Then again, it's hardly injured to the point that it will keep Junior out of action for a drastic period of time. An MRI exam on Monday showed the foot is strained, and Griffey is listed as day-to-day.

Griffey injured the foot while rounding second base in the 12th inning of Sunday's 8-3 win over the Braves.

"After hitting the bag, I tried to make a sharper turn," Griffey said. "I just rolled it."

Griffey had to leave the game early, but he said he was feeling better Monday.

Still, he wasn't quite well enough to start, and he was probably going to be spared from pinch-hit duties as well.

With Griffey out, Wily Mo Pena took over in center field. The outfield will be shored up by the return of utilityman Ryan Freel, who was activated from the disabled list Monday.

Freel has been out since Aug. 16 with injuries to his right knee and right quadriceps muscle.

"Freel's probably ready to close to ready [to start]," Reds manager Jerry Narron said. "But we might still wait a day or two. We might use him in a double-switch or something."

Griffey probably won't be used much at all over the next couple days. The foot injury is the first medical setback of the season for Junior, who has established himself as a strong candidate for Comeback Player of the Year.

Narron said his heart jumped to his throat when Griffey had to leave Sunday's game early.

"Everybody that's been around here has seen how hard he works and how much he wants to play," Narron said. "You don't want anybody to get hurt, for sure. For somebody that has had the difficulty he's had and who's come back to play this year and play extremely well, you sure don't want to see him walk off the field like he did."

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050905&content_id=1198208&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Joseph
09-05-2005, 07:38 PM
He needed a few days off anyway, glad to hear it doesn't seem to be long term and severe.

WVRedsFan
09-05-2005, 07:46 PM
0-0, middle of the 3rd. Claussen allowed a double to Brady Clark (why do former Reds kill us).

Ohka looks like Cy Young tonight

Joseph
09-05-2005, 07:49 PM
0-0 after 3

cincyinco
09-05-2005, 07:55 PM
Settle down Claussen... Settle down..

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 07:57 PM
Geoff Jenkins doubles on a fly ball to center fielder Wily Mo Pena. Carlos Lee scores.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 07:57 PM
Top 4TH B:4 S:2 O:1
Wes Helms walks.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 07:59 PM
Man this umps got a tight strike zone tonight.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 07:59 PM
Top 4TH B:2 S:2 O:2
Damian Miller grounds out softly, third baseman Edwin Encarnacion to first baseman Sean Casey. Geoff Jenkins to 3rd. Wes Helms to 2nd.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:00 PM
Intentional walk to J.J. Hardy. Bases loaded, Ohka coming up.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:04 PM
Tomo Ohka strikes out swinging.

After 3 1/2, Brewers 1 Reds 0.

Aurilia, Dunn, and Kearns coming up.

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 08:07 PM
Wow. He hit that hard. Dunn homers

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:07 PM
Aflac trivia answer: The last Red to win Comeback Player of the Year, Eric Davis - 1996. OThree other Reds have done it. Ron Gant - 1995, Bobby Tolan - 1972, and I missed the last one.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:08 PM
Bottom 4TH B:1 S:2 O:1
Rich Aurilia flies out to right fielder Geoff Jenkins.

Bottom 4TH B:0 S:0 O:1
Adam Dunn homers on a line drive to right center field.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:09 PM
Kearns K's on a cutter out of the zone.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:11 PM
Casey grounds out 1-3.

After 4 Brewers 1 Reds 1.

Clark, Weeks, and Overbay due up.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:14 PM
E-mail from the booth:

When's the appropriate time to put on the squeeze?

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:15 PM
Dunn puts away the flyball. 1 away.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:16 PM
Top 5TH B:1 S:1 O:2
Rickie WeeksJr. grounds out, shortstop Felipe LopezJr. to first baseman Sean Casey.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:18 PM
Lyle Overbay grounds out softly, third baseman Edwin Encarnacion to first baseman Sean Casey.

KronoRed
09-05-2005, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the PBP Nd2 :)

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:19 PM
Ok, doing PBP sucks. Anyone out there really need/want this?

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:21 PM
Thanks for the PBP Nd2 :)

Ooops.

Lee snags LaRue's fly at the wall.

KronoRed
09-05-2005, 08:21 PM
:lol:

You can quit..just wanted to say thanks :)

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:21 PM
Wily Mo Pena lines out softly to center fielder Brady Clark.

Easy E due up.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:23 PM
EdE bloops one into left field.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:25 PM
Brandon Claussen hammers one to shallow right field. :)

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:25 PM
:lol:

You can quit..just wanted to say thanks :)

I think I'm going to, if no one needs the updates. But your welcome. :)

Chip R
09-05-2005, 08:26 PM
E-mail from the booth:

When's the appropriate time to put on the squeeze?
Any time there's a runner on 3rd and you are playing the Reds. ;)

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:29 PM
E-mail from the booth:

When's the appropriate time to put on the squeeze?

By the way, they didn't mention Jeremy Reed bunt popping up into unassisted double play to third baseman Eric Chavez. Yuniesky Betancourt doubled off 3rd, during the Seattle-Oakland game earlier today. :laugh:

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 08:31 PM
Any time there's a runner on 3rd and you are playing the Reds. ;)

I thought that only happened when I was playing X-Box? :eek:

Gallen5862
09-05-2005, 08:49 PM
Thanks for pbp. I just got on.

PuffyPig
09-05-2005, 08:49 PM
Claussen K's the side, around a bloop double by Clark.

At 117 pitches, he's likely done, but looked as strong that inning as any other.

Nice game.

Gallen5862
09-05-2005, 08:51 PM
How well did Claussen pitch?

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 08:56 PM
How well did Claussen pitch?
He's been sketchy gotten himself out of a few jams (most notably in the 4th and 6th), but has gotten the job done:
7 IP, 7H, 1ER, 2BB, 6K

Belisle warming up in the pen.

PuffyPig
09-05-2005, 08:58 PM
He's been sketchy gotten himself out of a few jams (most notably in the 4th and 6th), but has gotten the job done:
7 IP, 7H, 1ER, 2BB, 6K



When a Reds starter goes 7 innings, 1 run, 8 baserunners (1 walk was intentional), I like to refer to it as "Cy Young like"as opposed to "sketchy". :laugh:

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:00 PM
^^
Very good point. :lol:

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:03 PM
Lee Grounds out.
Jenkins singles, (he's 4-4)
Helms singles.
1st and 2nd, 1 out.

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Belisle getting squeezed....gets a walk on very close pitches

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Miller walks, bases loaded.
Marty says he was "just missing" on 3 pitches

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 09:08 PM
When a Reds starter goes 7 innings, 1 run, 8 baserunners (1 walk was intentional), I like to refer to it as "Cy Young like"as opposed to "sketchy". :laugh:

Matt Belisle is kicking dirt on Cy Claussen's grave as we speak.

toledodan
09-05-2005, 09:10 PM
base hit by hardy 2-1 beer makers. bases still loaded with merker coming in.

toledodan
09-05-2005, 09:13 PM
another base hit 3-1 beer makers. i think its time for me to get a beer.

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:13 PM
Cirillo singles to left. 3-1 Brewers

toledodan
09-05-2005, 09:15 PM
clark hits into a double play inning over. 3-1 brewers bottom of 8th.

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:15 PM
Clark grounds into a 5-3 Double Play.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 09:16 PM
Marty says he was "just missing" on 3 pitches

Pitchers have been getting squeezed all night.

C.B. Bucknor > Joe Brinkman

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:18 PM
Booker & Weathers warming up in the bullpen.

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:19 PM
EdE walks, Freel GIDP on the first pitch.

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:20 PM
Lopez gets an infield hit.

flyer85
09-05-2005, 09:20 PM
I loathe first pitch GIDPs

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:22 PM
Aurillia grounds out to 3rd.
3-1 Brewers

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:23 PM
Booker pitching.

Aronchis
09-05-2005, 09:23 PM
Reds look to be playing out the string. Rich is probably ready for his season ending manacure.

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:24 PM
Booker making Major League debut.

flyer85
09-05-2005, 09:25 PM
glad to see RA back in 2 hole

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:26 PM
Booker strikes out Weeks looking

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 09:26 PM
Rich is probably ready for his season ending manacure.

I am, oh wait, you meant Aurilia.

What's a manacure? :laugh:

flyer85
09-05-2005, 09:27 PM
Booker doesn't understand pitch to contact, he will obviously be a failure

RedsIn07
09-05-2005, 09:28 PM
Overbay walks.

TeamBoone
09-05-2005, 09:28 PM
I don't like the last two moves by Narron.

In a close game, why pinch hit with a guy who's been on the DL for several weeks? IMHO, Cruz would have been the better option. And then Freel goes after the very first pitch when he hasn't faced a pitcher in weeks.

Not so sure I would have put the rookie into pitch either, especially with the meat of the order coming up.

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:30 PM
Could we be seeing why Chris Booker is an 11 year minor league veteran?

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't like the last two moves by Narron.

In a close game, why pinch hit with a guy who's been on the DL for several weeks? IMHO, Cruz would have been the better option. And then Freel goes after the very first pitch when he hasn't faced a pitcher in weeks.

Not so sure I would have put the rookie into pitch either, especially with the meat of the order coming up.

And the game still in reach

Aronchis
09-05-2005, 09:31 PM
I am, oh wait, you meant Aurilia.

What's a manacure? :laugh:

A ritual where Rich goes to the mythical mana tree after the season to regenerate his tremendous baseball skills ;)

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 09:33 PM
I think you could time Bookers move to the plate, with a runner on, with a sundial. :laugh:

TeamBoone
09-05-2005, 09:36 PM
IMHO, Narron threw this game away.

westofyou
09-05-2005, 09:38 PM
IMHO, Narron threw this game away.

3 hits until the 8th I think that has more to do with it than a PH apperance in the 8th

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:38 PM
...Dunn, Kearns, Casey coming up in the bottom of the 9th. Should have let Weathers pitch and give the team a chance in the bottom.

That chance is a lot less now

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:40 PM
....and less now

griffeyfreak4
09-05-2005, 09:42 PM
Talk about a quick game!!! I missed the whole thing at dinner! its been only an hour and a half.

Matt700wlw
09-05-2005, 09:45 PM
Talk about a quick game!!! I missed the whole thing at dinner! its been only an hour and a half.

2:35 now...it started at 7:10

TeamBoone
09-05-2005, 09:45 PM
3 hits until the 8th I think that has more to do with it than a PH apperance in the 8th

I don't agree. The Reds were still within striking distance until the Freel/Booker moves.

griffeyfreak4
09-05-2005, 09:47 PM
he's due, cmon

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 10:07 PM
3 hits until the 8th I think that has more to do with it than a PH apperance in the 8th

I think she may be refering to the three hits and a walk Belisle served up, or choosing Freel to come off the bench cold to pinch hit, even though the Cruzer is hitting lifetime vs. LH pitching .385/.475/.523. Freel's hitting .292/.452/.417 against pitchers of the same handedness of Eveland.

Of course, Claussen was at 117 pitches, and someone had to relieve him. Narron just picked the wrong poison tonight.

Falls City Beer
09-05-2005, 10:23 PM
An enormous log was pinched. :mooner:

westofyou
09-05-2005, 10:29 PM
I don't agree. The Reds were still within striking distance until the Freel/Booker moves.

Sometimes the other team beats you, sometimes they are actually better.

PuffyPig
09-05-2005, 10:51 PM
Freel was the right move, he stunk the ball hard, and he's our best remaining hitter against the LH pitcher.

Belisle was the right move, he's pitched pretty much as well as Weathers this year, and the 8th inning is his, the 9th is Weathewrs. THere was some very lucky hits that inning, and he had Millar struck out 3 times before he was given the walk.

Somethimes moved don't work out, it's not always because of a wrong choice.

Reds Nd2
09-05-2005, 10:55 PM
Sometimes the other team beats you, sometimes they are actually better.

It was 3-1, bottom of the 8th, with a runner on first. Should have brought in Cruz to PH in that situation. If they walk Cruz, it just brings up the switch hitting Lopez. Just sayin'...

Sometimes the other team just beats you and sometimes Team Boone is right.

westofyou
09-05-2005, 11:49 PM
It was 3-1, bottom of the 8th, with a runner on first. Should have brought in Cruz to PH in that situation. If they walk Cruz, it just brings up the switch hitting Lopez. Just sayin'...

Sometimes the other team just beats you and sometimes Team Boone is right.

The Brewers pitcher was a LH, Cruz has 14 ab's vs LH's in his last 250 ab's I don't think that was going to happen.

BTW concerning Belise, I was watching it and in Belises inning the SS was shaded towards 2nd for the DP on both GB that went to left, that was a lucky way to get beat on positioning.

Big Klu
09-05-2005, 11:53 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Adam Dunn - 154
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 138
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

M2
09-06-2005, 12:14 AM
So the real question is can Dunn crack the top 10 by the end of the month?

KronoRed
09-06-2005, 03:43 AM
Not if he keeps swinging at garbage.