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CTA513
09-16-2005, 09:53 PM
Reds Pirates
1. R Freel, LF 1. T Redman, CF
2. F Lopez, SS 2. J Wilson, SS
3. R Aurilia, 3B 3. R Mackowiak, RF
4. A Dunn, 1B 4. J Bay, LF
5. A Kearns, RF 5. R Doumit, C
6. J Valentin, C 6. D Ward, 1B
7. C Denorfia, CF 7. J Bautista, 3B
8. R Olmedo, 2B 8. J Furmaniak, 2B
9. R Ortiz, P 9. K Wells, P

CTA513
09-16-2005, 09:54 PM
Valentin singles, 2 runs score. 2 outs.

2-0 Reds

CTA513
09-16-2005, 09:56 PM
Denorfia strikes out. 3 outs.

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 09:56 PM
Rich! :rant:

CTA513
09-16-2005, 09:58 PM
Kip Wells with 34 pitches in the 1st inning.

:)

CTA513
09-16-2005, 09:59 PM
Casey has been diagnosed with a grade 2 concussion.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:00 PM
Redman flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:00 PM
J. Wilson flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:02 PM
Mackowiak strikes out. 3 outs.

2-0 Reds after the 1st inning.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:05 PM
Its starting to rain at PNC Park.

Gallen5862
09-16-2005, 10:05 PM
How severe is a grade 2 concussion?

Matt700wlw
09-16-2005, 10:05 PM
I hate Pittsburgh...

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:06 PM
Olmedo strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:07 PM
Ortiz strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:09 PM
Freel grounds out. 3 outs.

New Fever
09-16-2005, 10:11 PM
Would Adam Dunn had sit, if Casey didn't get hurt?

Reds Nd2
09-16-2005, 10:11 PM
It's now raining at PNC park. How strange would it be for the make up game of a rained out game to be called for rain?

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:11 PM
Bay grounds out. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2005, 10:12 PM
It's now raining at PNC park. How strange would it be for the make up game of a rained out game to be called for rain?

Hilarious. :bang:

:p:

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:12 PM
Would Adam Dunn had sit, if Casey didn't get hurt?

I think they said Casey wasnt scheduled to play the second game.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:12 PM
Doumit flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:14 PM
Ward doubles.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:16 PM
Bautista strikes out. 3 outs.

2-0 Reds after the 2nd inning.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:19 PM
Lopez singles.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:20 PM
Aurilia flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:22 PM
Dunn with a bloop to left field that nobody catches, Lopez thrown out at 2nd. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:23 PM
Wild pitch, Dunn to 2nd.

Gallen5862
09-16-2005, 10:24 PM
Thanks for the updates.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:24 PM
Kearns strikes out. 3 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:25 PM
They scored Dunns bloop to left field as a force out and not a single.... thats crappy.

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 10:28 PM
Casey has been diagnosed with a grade 2 concussion.
"A Grade 2 concussion involves loss of consciousness for less than five minutes or a period of post-traumatic amnesia that lasts more than 30 minutes but less than 24 hours."
http://www.neurosurgerytoday.org/what/patient_e/concussion.asp

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:28 PM
I missed the begining of what Marty just said, but it sounds like they are having a 30 minute rain delay.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2005, 10:31 PM
This sucks

oneupper
09-16-2005, 10:31 PM
Casey has been diagnosed with a grade 2 concussion.

Broken bones?

Patrick Bateman
09-16-2005, 10:33 PM
They scored Dunns bloop to left field as a force out and not a single.... thats crappy.

Nothing else they could do, the runner didn't reach second safely, so it's a force, no discretion allowed.

It's not like he actually deserved a base hit.

Gallen5862
09-16-2005, 10:41 PM
Krono thanks for definition of the Concussion.

Matt700wlw
09-16-2005, 10:50 PM
Word is things will get under way again around 10

Joseph
09-16-2005, 10:51 PM
Make it hurry up! :)

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 10:53 PM
Are we there yet? :D

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:56 PM
Are we there yet? :D

Dont make me turn this car around!

:devil:

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Game has started back up.

Furmaniak flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Wells flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:00 PM
Redman doubles.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:02 PM
J. Wilson singles, Redman scores.

2-1 Reds.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:02 PM
Mackowiak grounds into a force out at 2nd. 3 outs.

2-1 Reds after 3 innings.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:05 PM
Valentin singles.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:07 PM
Denorfia walks.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:09 PM
Olmedo singles, Valentin scores.

3-1 Reds

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 11:10 PM
Go Rey Rey!

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:10 PM
Ortiz with a sac bunt moves runners over to 2nd & 3rd. 1 out.

Gallen5862
09-16-2005, 11:11 PM
yea rey rey.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:11 PM
Freel grounds out, Denorfia scores. 2 outs.

4-1 Reds

Patrick Bateman
09-16-2005, 11:11 PM
ReyRey with a single just by the secondbaseman's glove.

That was quite a surprise.

I didn't know Rey had such power.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:12 PM
Lopez grounds out. 3 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:15 PM
Bay doubles.

OnBaseMachine
09-16-2005, 11:17 PM
Freel :doh:.

Patrick Bateman
09-16-2005, 11:17 PM
Bay doubles.

That misplay by Freel makes Pena look like a gold glover.

He was climbing the walls to rob a HR, as the ball feel about 10 feet in front of him.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:18 PM
Doumit grounds out, Bay to 3rd. 1 out.

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 11:18 PM
Freel = DH :lol:

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:21 PM
Ward with a bloop off Lopez glove, Bay scores.

4-2 Reds.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:21 PM
Bautista singles.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:24 PM
Furmaniak strikes out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:26 PM
Wells strikes out. 3 outs.

4-2 Reds after 4 innings.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:29 PM
Aurilia with a ground rule double.

Gallen5862
09-16-2005, 11:30 PM
The Reds are getting close to a 500 record. It would be great if we could get that.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:31 PM
Dunn flies out, Aurilia goes to 3rd. 1 out.

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 11:31 PM
Dunn doing all the little things today :D

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:33 PM
Kearns lines out. 2 outs.

M2
09-16-2005, 11:34 PM
Dunn doing all the little things today :D

Four productive outs in a single day. This guy is a littleball machine.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:35 PM
Valentin walks.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:37 PM
Denorfia grounds into a force out at 2nd. 3 outs.

Aronchis
09-16-2005, 11:38 PM
What ever happened to Kip Wells? I remember when the Pirates got him, people were going nuts how it would be the signature move of the new rebuilding plan, here we are 3 years later and the guy has not improved any and the Pirates are horrid.

Talk about the Reds being Snakebitten, the Pirates are the Tigers of the National League.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:41 PM
Redman grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:42 PM
J. Wilson with an infield hit.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:42 PM
Mackowiak flies out. 2 outs.

M2
09-16-2005, 11:42 PM
What ever happened to Kip Wells? I remember when the Pirates got him, people were going nuts how it would be the signature move of the new rebuilding plan, here we are 3 years later and the guy has not improved any and the Pirates are horrid.

Talk about the Reds being Snakebitten, the Pirates are the Tigers of the National League.

Yeah, he's gone backwards on them. Oliver Perez fizzled this year too.

Of course once he leaves you know he's going all Jon Lieber/Jason Schmidt for someone else.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:43 PM
Bay grounds into a force out at 2nd. 3 outs.

4-2 Reds after 5 innings.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:46 PM
Vogelsong into pitch for the Pirates.

Olmedo flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:48 PM
Ortiz strikes out. 2 outs.

Aronchis
09-16-2005, 11:50 PM
Yeah, he's gone backwards on them. Oliver Perez fizzled this year too.

Of course once he leaves you know he's going all Jon Lieber/Jason Schmidt for someone else.

I figure since they have a bunch of young pitching ready to come up, they will try and move Wells for a bat, then the young pitching implodes and Wells wins 20 games for the somebody else, rinse, lather and repeat.

Maybe Pena for Wells/prospect may work out nicely ;)

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:51 PM
Doumit singles.

M2
09-16-2005, 11:52 PM
I believe Wells is free agent.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:52 PM
Ward singles.

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 11:52 PM
Maybe Pena for Wells/prospect may work out nicely ;)

His arm would fall off if we got him :lol:

M2
09-16-2005, 11:53 PM
In separate news, the A's just used four pitchers in the bottom of the 7th against the Red Sox. There ought to be a law against that.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Bautista grounds into a double play. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:54 PM
I was checking out Gameday and seen that Barry Bonds hit his 1st homerun of the year off of Brad Penny.

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:56 PM
Furmaniak walks.

Chip R
09-16-2005, 11:57 PM
I was checking out Gameday and seen that Barry Bonds hit his 1st homerun of the year off of Brad Penny.
I'm surprised ESPN didn't cut in. ;)

KronoRed
09-16-2005, 11:59 PM
Expect sportscenter to be ALL about it :lol:

CTA513
09-16-2005, 11:59 PM
Wigginton strikes out. 3 outs.

4-2 Reds after 6 innings.

Aronchis
09-17-2005, 12:00 AM
Man was Ortiz bad tonight. A average offense would have knocked him around tonight, only the Pirates................

WMR
09-17-2005, 12:01 AM
http://www.freewebtown.com/baseballstars/bonds2.jpg


AND THEN...


http://tokyonewsline.com/img/sportsline/BarryBondsSFGiants.jpg

Yeah, that's natural.

Patrick Bateman
09-17-2005, 12:02 AM
I believe Wells is free agent.

Not until after the 2006 season.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:04 AM
Lopez strikes out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:05 AM
Aurilia flies out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:07 AM
Dunn strikes out. 3 outs.

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 12:08 AM
Heading to the bottom of the 16th...

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:10 AM
Shackelford into pitch the 7th.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:10 AM
Redman flies out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:11 AM
Ortiz ERA is now 4.98

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:12 AM
J. Wilson walks.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:13 AM
Shackelford pulled, Standridge coming into pitch.

KronoRed
09-17-2005, 12:13 AM
Ortiz ERA is now 4.98

Please don't bring him back Dan O..it's deceptive!

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:15 AM
C. Wilson pinch hitting for Mackowiak.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:18 AM
C. Wilson strikes out. 2 outs.

M2
09-17-2005, 12:19 AM
Not until after the 2006 season.

Oops, my bad.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:20 AM
Bay walks.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:23 AM
Mercker into pitch.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:24 AM
Doumit flies out. 3 outs.

4-2 Reds after 7 innings.

M2
09-17-2005, 12:25 AM
My instructions to my pitching staff in facing the Pirates would be that Jason Bay should never see a strike with runners on base. He's the modern day Indian Bob Johnson.

Patrick Bateman
09-17-2005, 12:26 AM
My instructions to my pitching staff in facing the Pirates would be that Jason Bay should never see a strike with runners on base.

How about with the bases loaded, tie game, bottom of the 9th?

Never say never. :laugh:

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:27 AM
Kearns lines out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:29 AM
Valentin grounds out. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:30 AM
Denorifa strikes out. 3 outs.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:33 AM
Sanchez grounds out. 1 out.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:35 AM
Bautista walks.

M2
09-17-2005, 12:35 AM
How about with the bases loaded, tie game, bottom of the 9th?

Never say never. :laugh:

Even then I might be tempted.

Just looked this up. Do you know how hard it is to load the bases in front of Jason Bay? Hitting in the middle of the Pirates batting order all season he's only got eight bases loaded plate appearances.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:36 AM
Eldred pinch hitting for Furmaniak.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:36 AM
Eldred doubles, Sanchez has to hold up at 3rd because Denorfia got the ball in quick.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:38 AM
Double switch... Larue & Weathers coming into the game.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:38 AM
McLouth pinch hitting for Grabow.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:40 AM
McLouth grounds out, Sanchez scores. 2 outs.

4-3 Reds

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:42 AM
Redman flies out. 3 outs.

4-3 Reds after 8 innings.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:44 AM
Torres into pitch for the Pirates.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:45 AM
Olmedo with a bunt single.

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 12:45 AM
6 outs....let's go.

:D

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:46 AM
Larue grounds into a double play. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 12:46 AM
4 outs

:D

Patrick Bateman
09-17-2005, 12:46 AM
Olmedo with a bunt single.

Another surprising display of Rey's power.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:47 AM
Freel grounds out. 3 outs.

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 12:49 AM
3 outs

:D

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:50 AM
3 outs

:D

Not if the Pirates tie it up and they go into extras.

:evil:

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 12:50 AM
Not if the Pirates tie it up and they go into extras.

:evil:

Don't even go there....it has been a long day :help:

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:50 AM
J. Wilson singles.

M2
09-17-2005, 12:53 AM
The Reds have made Jack Wilson look like Ichiro Suzuki today.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:54 AM
C. Wilson walks.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:55 AM
Bay singles, J. Wilson scores.

Runners go to 2nd & 3rd on throwing error.


4-4 tie game.

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 12:55 AM
Bay singles, J. Wilson scores.

4-4 tie game.

I may scream

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:56 AM
I may scream

Pirates should suicide squeeze to win.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:56 AM
Doumit intentionally walked.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:57 AM
Pirates win 5-4 on a Sanchez single.

Chip R
09-17-2005, 12:57 AM
The Reds have made Jack Wilson look like Ichiro Suzuki today.Just today?

Patrick Bateman
09-17-2005, 12:57 AM
Pirates should suicide squeeze to win.

Not with zero outs you don't.

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:58 AM
Not with zero outs you don't.

You should wait till you have 2 outs.

:beerme:

CTA513
09-17-2005, 12:58 AM
Freddy Sanchez singles on a soft ground ball to center fielder Chris Denorfia. Craig Wilson scores. Jason Bay to 3rd. Ryan Doumit to 2nd.

Pirates 5, Reds 4.

KronoRed
09-17-2005, 12:59 AM
I blame you Matt! ;)

oneupper
09-17-2005, 01:00 AM
A little "overmanagement'' of the bullpen by Narron in that second game, wouldn't you say?

Matt700wlw
09-17-2005, 01:02 AM
I blame you Matt! ;)

That's cool! :D

M2
09-17-2005, 01:03 AM
Just today?

They'd handled him pretty well in 2005 up until today.

Though he did own them last season.

This year it's been Bay (again), Sanchez and Mackowiak.

Aronchis
09-17-2005, 01:03 AM
Looks like Weathers came back to earth a little lately, his numbers were a little to good.

SteelSD
09-17-2005, 01:06 AM
A little "overmanagement'' of the bullpen by Narron in that second game, wouldn't you say?

No. The problem is that Narron really doesn't have anything resembling a good bullpen. You can make as few- or as many- moves as you like, but if you continually bring in mediocre-to-bad pitchers, something is eventually going to break down. That's what happened in the 2nd game tonight and the loss wasn't at all surprising to me.

KittyDuran
09-17-2005, 01:06 AM
Darn it!!! I was looking forward to coming back to this thread seeing "This one belongs to the Reds"... :bang: Well, since it's passed midnite - this just ruined Saturday for me... ;)

KittyDuran
09-17-2005, 01:07 AM
Oh, and I blame Matt, too... :)

KronoRed
09-17-2005, 01:10 AM
Not me right? ..him :D

KittyDuran
09-17-2005, 01:12 AM
Not me right? ..him :DWait, I didn't read all of the game thread... ;)

Sea Ray
09-17-2005, 01:17 PM
No. The problem is that Narron really doesn't have anything resembling a good bullpen. You can make as few- or as many- moves as you like, but if you continually bring in mediocre-to-bad pitchers, something is eventually going to break down. That's what happened in the 2nd game tonight and the loss wasn't at all surprising to me.

Let's hope games like these can have a positive effect on next year. That is, management can learn that it cannot go into next year with David Weathers penciled in as closer. That has never been his role in his long career and now's not the time to start. I'm OK with him closing for now because we're in mop up mode for 2005 and have been ever since he was moved to the closer's role. But if he goes into Spring Training "in the hunt" for closer then that's further evidence this organization has no plan.