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KronoRed
09-20-2005, 07:31 PM
St. Louis Cardinals

David Eckstein SS
So Taguchi CF
Albert Pujols 1B
Reggie Sanders RF
Mark Grudzielanek 2B
John Gall LF
Yadier Molina C
Hector Luna 3B
Jeff Suppan P

Cincinnati Reds

Ryan Freel 2B
Felipe Lopez SS
Adam Dunn LF
Rich Aurilia 3B
Javier Valentin 1B
Austin Kearns RF
Jason LaRue C
Wily Mo Pena CF
Randy Keisler P

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 07:32 PM
Unless EE is hurt then I do not agree with having him on the bench here.

Also not a fan of Kearns not batting cleanup, has more HRs then Rich and he spent a month in AAA.

pedro
09-20-2005, 07:44 PM
I don't think it's going to hurt EE to sit every few games. Actually I think it might do him some good.

As for RA batting cleanup what can I say?

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 07:49 PM
He seems to sit every other game though

Friday-Started then sat in the later game
Started Saturday
Sat Sunday
Monday an off day

:dunno:

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 07:52 PM
EE is hurt.. strained shoulder i believe

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 07:53 PM
EE is hurt.. strained shoulder i believe

Thanks for the info :)

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 07:58 PM
Thanks for the info :)

No problem, see the thread about him blaming himself for casey's injury to to erant throw.. speaks about this shoulder issues in the article. received some kind of shock therapy for it? dont quote me.. but its there. :)

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40029


Encarnacion said he hurt his right shoulder Saturday night - the day after the errant throw to Casey - on a slide across home plate. He took electro-stimulation and ice before Sunday's game, and hopes to be back in the lineup for Tuesday's game. The Reds are off today.

Falls City Beer
09-20-2005, 08:08 PM
The Reds are like those dog turds that sit out in the sun too long, dry out, and turn white. :)

westofyou
09-20-2005, 08:12 PM
The Reds are like those dog turds that sit out in the sun too long, dry out, and turn white. :)

So... I had this discussion with my wife the other day on a hike about why a dog turd turns white after so long.

Being an enviromental studies major she informed me that the white is mineral residue!!

Now we all can sleep at night.


Batting Aurilia 4th shows Narrons love of a contact hitter in the middle of the lineup..... note contact as the description of what he likes, not on base percentage, not power, not batting average... but contact.

Whoop dee do.....

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:12 PM
Also not a fan of Kearns not batting cleanup, has more HRs then Rich and he spent a month in AAA.

Kearns since Aug 15:

.245/.372/.520

Dunn, career:

.248/.383/.518


Adam Dunn must be teaching classes now or something.

Chip R
09-20-2005, 08:14 PM
Let the George Grande/Cardinal love fest commence. George is probably very sad that Jim Edmonds isn't in the lineup though.

pedro
09-20-2005, 08:16 PM
So... I had this discussion with my wife the other day on a hike about why a dog turd turns white after so long.

Being an enviromental studies major she informed me that the white is mineral residue!!

Now we all can sleep at night.


Batting Aurilia 4th shows Narrons love of a contact hitter in the middle of the lineup..... note contact as the description of what he likes, not on base percentage, not power, not batting average... but contact.

Whoop dee do.....

how aprapos

westofyou
09-20-2005, 08:17 PM
Let the George Grande/Cardinal love fest commence. George is probably very sad that Jim Edmonds isn't in the lineup though.

George can't talk about the Cards without slipping them the tongue.

NC Reds
09-20-2005, 08:18 PM
George Grande drinking game:

Take a drink everytime he says "Reds Killer" or "Jim Edmonds" during the course of a Cardinals game. You will be drunk in no time.

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:18 PM
Batting Aurilia 4th shows Narrons love of a contact hitter in the middle of the lineup..... note contact as the description of what he likes, not on base percentage, not power, not batting average... but contact.

Whoop dee do.....

Again...I have to defend Aurilia as the clean-up hitter. He's put up the big numbers with RISP (.340/.387/.585). Personally, I'd rather have Kearns clean-up and RA 5th, but Aurilia is a perfectly reasonable choice to bat clean-up.

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:21 PM
Again...I have to defend Aurilia as the clean-up hitter. He's put up the big numbers with RISP (.340/.387/.585). Personally, I'd rather have Kearns clean-up and RA 5th, but Aurilia is a perfectly reasonable choice to bat clean-up.

Now, since I defended him, he's a lock to go 0-for-4 and leave 10 men on base.

Joseph
09-20-2005, 08:27 PM
Rich is terrible in the cleanup spot.......

n/m

flyer85
09-20-2005, 08:27 PM
HR for the "turd"

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 08:32 PM
Hopefully pricing himself out of town, I fear him returning and the Reds giving the 3rd base job to him over EE.

And 2 million on a backup when any extra cash need to be spent on the pitching?? :eek:

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 08:32 PM
Kearns since Aug 15:

.245/.372/.520

Dunn, career:

.248/.383/.518


Adam Dunn must be teaching classes now or something.

A team like that would score a record amount of runs :D

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Rich is terrible in the cleanup spot.......

n/m

:D

He's terrible anywhere else. If you have to play him, you might as well play him in the one spot where he'll be up in the situations that he's productive in.

I hate to say it, but if we bash Aurilia just because he's a contact hitter, then we're no better than the people like BF who bash Dunn just because he's a three true outcomes hitter.

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 08:40 PM
I bash Rich because I think he takes at bats away from more capable players and because of his attitude

Thank you..goodnight ;)

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:40 PM
A team like that would score a record amount of runs :D

Adam Dunn
Dean
School of the Three True Outcomes

smith288
09-20-2005, 08:45 PM
Adam Dunn
Dean
School of the Three True Outcomes lol

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:45 PM
I bash Rich because I think he takes at bats away from more capable players and because of his attitude

Thank you..goodnight ;)

Fair enough. For the record, I dont want him back here next year, either, for just those reasons. But like I said, as long as we have to play him, we might as well play him where he'll do some damage.

smith288
09-20-2005, 08:45 PM
I bash Rich because I think he takes at bats away from more capable players and because of his attitude

Thank you..goodnight ;) Plus he can grow a better goatee than me and im jealous...so i hate on him.

flyer85
09-20-2005, 08:46 PM
does anyone doubt that Keisler could give better or at least the same numbers than Milton in 2006?

capndees
09-20-2005, 08:48 PM
Plus he can grow a better goatee than me and im jealous...so i hate on him.

LOL...Same here, I have trouble connecting the moustache and the beard....

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 08:54 PM
Bonds just homered, for anyone that cares..

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Keisler with 53 pitches already through 2 and 1/3? ouch

smith288
09-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Bonds just homered, for anyone that cares.. Bonds is just good regardless of his alleged steroid use... I dont like the guy as a person but you gotta have talent to sit out a whole year, then suit up and start hitting like its coach pitch.

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Bonds just homered, for anyone that cares..
BOOO

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Lopez :rolleyes:

smith288
09-20-2005, 08:59 PM
Lopez :rolleyes: Did he look at your girl or something? Pbp please. :D

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 09:00 PM
Not that I care to watch the Giants, I just care to watch good young pitching.. ala Matt Cain.

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 09:01 PM
Did he look at your girl or something? Pbp please. :D

Routine ground ball to get the 3rd out (bases loaded) and he throws it wide of first and 2 runs score.

The next batter, John Gall hits a 3 run HR and Lopez's dumb ass mistakes cost the Reds 5 runs

5-2 Cardinals

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 09:02 PM
Cain so far:

4IP, 2H, 1R, 1ER, 1BB, 5K

I would give my left nut if it meant the Reds could get a pitcher of this kind of quality. He's only 20.. sigh.

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Routine ground ball to get the 3rd out (bases loaded) and he throws it wide of first and 2 runs score.

The next batter, John Gall hits a 3 run HR and Lopez's dumb ass mistakes cost the Reds 5 runs

5-2 Cardinals

Oh well, just 1 more game down from the cards... It happens..

flyer85
09-20-2005, 09:04 PM
I would give my left nut a true fan would be more than happy to give both. :owned:

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 09:06 PM
Plus Valentin colided with Grudzielanek... sprained ankle for G.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 09:07 PM
Very very costly throwing error by Felipe. Reds would have been out of the inning at 2-2.... instead, 5-2.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 09:08 PM
Uh oh.... Freel jamed his hand pretty bad by the looks of it, trying to get back to first.

Guess he's ok... but it looked pretty gruesome.

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 09:09 PM
a true fan would be more than happy to give both. :owned:

lost the right one to the wife..

:owned:

wait.. doh!

smith288
09-20-2005, 09:14 PM
Plus Valentin colided with Grudzielanek... sprained ankle for G. You dont win too many if you run into porn stache.

flyer85
09-20-2005, 09:17 PM
lost the right one to the wife..

:owned:

wait.. doh!gee ... my wife has both.

a quote from a movie

"women have it made, they have 50% of the money and all of the ...."

pedro
09-20-2005, 09:21 PM
That was what I'd like to see Dunn do with 2 strikes. Take that outside pitch to left for a 2B. Nice job.

5-4 Cards

cincyinco
09-20-2005, 09:25 PM
Might we actually have a game on our hands?

LincolnparkRed
09-20-2005, 09:34 PM
Uh oh.... Freel jamed his hand pretty bad by the looks of it, trying to get back to first.

Guess he's ok... but it looked pretty gruesome.

He plays like a tank but it seems that his body just can't keep up with the abuse it takes. I wish he would ratchet it down a little before he hurts one of his teamates as well.

pedro
09-20-2005, 09:37 PM
Marty's forgotten there's a game going on again.

flyer85
09-20-2005, 09:42 PM
Marty's forgotten there's a game going on again.nah ... he just doesn't care.

WVRedsFan
09-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Marty's forgotten there's a game going on again.

There's a game going on? Nah, they're just teasing us as they ready themselves for their coming 8-run inning... :eek:

Patrick Bateman
09-20-2005, 09:44 PM
does anyone doubt that Keisler could give better or at least the same numbers than Milton in 2006?

Why ask that question?

I'm guessing there's all sorts of pitchers that could put up high 6 ERA's.

pedro
09-20-2005, 09:45 PM
what's marty's email address?

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 09:46 PM
what's marty's email address?

martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

flyer85
09-20-2005, 09:49 PM
Why ask that question?

I'm guessing there's all sorts of pitchers that could put up high 6 ERA's.that's the point, even Keisler would do better.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 09:52 PM
I hate to say it, but if we bash Aurilia just because he's a contact hitter, then we're no better than the people like BF who bash Dunn just because he's a three true outcomes hitter.

FwIW I wasn't "bashing" RA I was making an observation about Narrons lineup preferance.

RA is slotting in the Joe Randa RH contact slot, right between the 3 true outcome guys.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 09:56 PM
Chris just said that the intentional walk to Adam Dunn was the only intentional walk Suppan has given this year.

Aurilia singles; tie ballgame 5-5.

Runners on first and second; Valentin up (2 outs). Full count. And he strikes out swinging.

End of five... 5-5.

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 09:57 PM
Just mailed Marty myself. Wanna bet that one doesn't get read?

Patrick Bateman
09-20-2005, 09:59 PM
that's the point, even Keisler would do better.

We could get 10 pitchers who pitched better than Milton this year, and still have the worst pitching ever.

Milton's line this year is not a basis for comparison for improvement.

Patrick Bateman
09-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Chris just said that the intentional walk to Adam Dunn was the only intentional walk Suppan has given this year.



Walking Dunn to prevent the tying run is against the percentages. Aurilia has a better chance of getting a hit. And Aurilia has the better chance of scoring 2 runs (with a HR or double) than Dunn has (HR only). And Aurilia has the only chance of scoring 3 runs (HR).

pedro
09-20-2005, 10:04 PM
Just mailed Marty myself. Wanna bet that one doesn't get read?

I KNOW mine won't be read. :evil:

capndees
09-20-2005, 10:08 PM
FwIW I wasn't "bashing" RA I was making an observation about Narrons lineup preferance.

I know, I wasnt singling you out. But lets face it, Aurilia takes a lot of crap on these boards. A lot of it he deserves, some of it maybe not....

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:09 PM
Top of 6; Standridge pitching.

Molina strikes out on three pitches. (1 out)
Luna full count, fouls off one, and then walks.
Duncan PH for Suppan.

Oh man; Jason tries to pick off Luna stealing but someone was late getting to the bag and the ball hops into center. Luna on third.

Duncan strikes out. (2 outs)
Eckstein 0-2. Strikes out.

Bottom of six... still 5-5.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:11 PM
I know, I wasnt singling you out. But lets face it, Aurilia takes a lot of crap on these boards. A lot of it he deserves, some of it maybe not....

Every team needs a pinata, Rich just happened to bring a stick and blindfold with him when he got here.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:16 PM
Bottom six; Brad Thompson pitching.

Kearns, strike called on a very low pitch. Strikes out swinging after fouling off one. (1 out)
LaRue base hit to left center on third pitch.
Pena pops out to short left center on first pitch. (2 outs)
Encarnacion PH for Standridge. Fouls off a couple. Strikes out swinging.

End of six... 5-5.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:21 PM
Top of 7; Hancock pitching.

Taguchi grounds out to first. (1 out)
Pujols flies out to Kearns at the warning track on the first pitch; 0-3 so far tonight (2 outs).
Sanders pops up to short left on first pitch.

5-5

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:30 PM
Freel grounds out (1 out)
Lopez with an infield single
Bullpen change - Ray "Burger" King
Dunn HBP

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 10:33 PM
Lopez was safe...this ump stinks -- it's an obvious call

:rant:

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Single by RA - but Lopez gunned down at home (2 outs)

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Lopez scores but is called out. Horrible call. Narron comes out to protect Lopez and I honestly thought that Narron was going to get himself tossed.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Make 'em pay, porn 'stache...

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:35 PM
Chris Welsh PITCHER... laments that Lopez "slid" wrong.

Yeah, tell me how to throw a curve Chris, but as far as baserunning... you're out of your element.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:35 PM
and he did - Valentin with a single - Dunn comes in to score...

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Welsh and Grande have been horrible tonight.

Dunn scores on a Valentin single. Taguchi almost throws Dunn out, Dunn misses the plate but Kearns tells him to turn around and touch it so he does. Not sure if Kearns was doing the job there as Dunn came in standing up and probably should have been sliding.

King's gone. Pitching change.

OnBaseMachine
09-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Dunn scores his 100th run. Now just needs 6 rbi to become the first Red to have consecutive seasons of 100 runs, 100 rbi, and 100 walks.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Chris Welsh PITCHER... laments that Lopez "slid" wrong.

Yeah, tell me how to throw a curve Chris, but as far as baserunning... you're out of your element.Lopez should have taken out Molina... to leave no doubt that he was safe...

RBA
09-20-2005, 10:37 PM
What's up with these horrible Reds announcers? It's almost like they want the Reds to lose and they act like homers for St Louis.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:38 PM
Welsh and Grande have been horrible tonight.

Dunn scores on a Valentin single. Taguchi almost throws Dunn out, Dunn misses the plate but Kearns tells him to turn around and touch it so he does. Not sure if Kearns was doing the job there as Dunn came in standing up and probably should have been sliding.

King's gone. Pitching change.Now, Dunn should have taken Molina out... ;)

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:39 PM
BTW, can someone near Colorado go kneecap Woody Williams for me.

Williams' line: 1 IP, 9 Hits, 8 ER (minus-72 points)

To make up those 72 points, my next starting pitcher must throw a complete game shutout.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:40 PM
Bottom seven; Thompson still pitching.

Freel 2-0, then a low pitch called for a strike. Count goes full; Freel fouls off a couple. Grounds to second; throw to first. (1 out)
Lopez... infield base hit (pitcher couldn't get it to first in time, even though he had time).

Ray King pitching.

Dunn HBP on the first pitch. Runners on first and second.
Aurilia base hit on 2-2 count.
Lopez thrown out at home on a really close one; he looked safe to me, even on replay. (2 outs)
Runners on first and second.
Valentin doubles.
Dunn scores (misses the plate because the balls coming in, but it's dropped and he has time to go back and tag).

6-5 runners on second and third. Al Reyes pitching.

Kearns grounds to third; throws to first for the out.

End seven. 6-5 Reds.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:41 PM
What's up with these horrible Reds announcers? It's almost like they want the Reds to lose and they act like homers for St Louis.

They have a Cardinal crush only rivaled by their Bobby Sherman and Tony DeFranco fetish that they keep to themselves.

NC Reds
09-20-2005, 10:42 PM
George Grande has unhealthy amounts of manlove for Jim Edmonds.

I wonder if he is a closet Cards fan. He can't stop praising them.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Frank Robinson trusts no one in his bullpen evidently

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:43 PM
I wonder if he is a closet Cards fan. He can't stop praising them.

Former announcer with them, and owner of a yearly pass to the Arch

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 10:44 PM
I KNOW mine won't be read. :evil:

Are you the one from Portland who wouldn't sign their name?

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:44 PM
Todd Coffey now called "One of the Reds' real bright spots this season." by Chris Welsh.

Sometimes I think it would be more enjoyable listening to Reds baseball while non-English speaking female soccer announcers called the game and made baseball commentary.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:44 PM
George Grande has unhealthy amounts of manlove for Jim Edmonds.

I wonder if he is a closet Cards fan. He can't stop praising them.Wasn't George a Cards announcer at one time?

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 10:45 PM
He's reading our e-mails Pedro........LMAO

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:45 PM
BTW, I'm firmly convinced that George Grande knows more about the Cardinals than he does about the Reds.

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 10:46 PM
I signed my name......see if he reads mine.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:46 PM
I think somebody's just got read -- and of course, whomever you are failed to sign your name

Well if Marty is the rocket scientist he comes off as he'll see that Pedro's email address IS his name!!!

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 10:46 PM
He's reading our e-mails Pedro........LMAO

At least you signed your name...

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:46 PM
Who wrote "Shut up and retire"? :laugh:

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:46 PM
He's reading our e-mails Pedro........LMAO

Recap please!!!

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 10:47 PM
Well if Marty is the rocket scientist he comes off as he'll see that Pedro's email address IS his name!!!

I don't know what his email is....I don't see them.

But the email was signed "reds fan for life" or "life long reds fan" or something

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 10:47 PM
I told him to stop with the Marty B show and call the goddamn game.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Top of 8; Coffey pitching.

Seabol broken-bat single to short left.
Gall flies out to Kearns in right; runner stays at first. (1 out)
Molina singles just past the diving Freel. Runners on first and second.
Luna hits to third; Aurila taps the bag and flips to first. Double play!

6-5 Reds.

Matt700wlw
09-20-2005, 10:48 PM
I told him to stop with the Marty B show and call the goddamn game.

He cleaned yours up (for obvious reasons) :)

SteelSD
09-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Now, Dunn should have taken Molina out... ;)

Nah. Impossible.

According to George Grande, Molina is invincible and omnipotent.

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:49 PM
I told him to stop with the Marty B show and call the goddamn game.

And he read it? Are you serious?

pedro
09-20-2005, 10:51 PM
I don't know what his email is....I don't see them.

But the email was signed "reds fan for life" or "life long reds fan" or something

this is what I said.


Dear Marty,

Nobody cares about your golf outings or your buddies or your lame gag routines. Shut up and announce the game or please retire and let some one who gives a crap about the game do the job you so obviously don't care about any more.

Lifelong Reds fan
Portland, Oregon

and I did send from my personal email which is my name@earthlink.net

did he really read that? on the air?

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 10:51 PM
yep and Pedro was the other one he read. By the way Pedro,we are proud of you in Portland......LOL

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:51 PM
"Hang with me Portland, OR..." :devil:

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:53 PM
I'd email George myself.

If I had the internet.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:53 PM
Talking about the Portland Beavers... then he said something like "Oh, I'm sorry, you don't have a big league team..." ;)

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 10:54 PM
I signed my name,I figured there was no chance unless I did.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:54 PM
Talking about the Portland Beavers... then he said something like "Oh, I'm sorry, you don't have a big league team..." ;)

Or humidity or snow.

ochre
09-20-2005, 10:54 PM
Rich "Roger Dorn" Aurilia's Home Road splits:
Home:
AB AVG OBP SLG OPS
192 .333 .378 .573 .951
Road:
194 .222 .293 .314 .607

So. He's the poster child for 2 phenomenons. BA driven OBP and the extreme example (Coors field'esque) of a player that's game perfectly matches his home ballpark.

KittyDuran
09-20-2005, 10:56 PM
Has the delay always been this bad with the TV vs the radio broadcasts???

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:56 PM
Bottom eight; Reyes still pitching.

LaRue strokes it into the crowd. Pujols runs up on top of the tarp but couldn't get it. Strikes out swinging. (1 out)
Pena 0 fer tonight. Grounds to short; flips to first for the out. (2 outs)
Cruz PH for Coffey. Works the count full. Fouls off a few. Strikes out swinging.

6-5 Reds.

westofyou
09-20-2005, 10:56 PM
Talking about the Portland Beavers... then he said something like "Oh, I'm sorry, you don't have a big league team..." ;)

And YOU do? ;)

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 10:57 PM
Has the delay always been this bad with the TV vs the radio broadcasts???

Yes.

Boyd... what were his comments after reading it?

TeamBoone
09-20-2005, 11:03 PM
Top of 9. Weathers pitching

Olmedo at second; Freel to center for Pena.

John Rodriguez flies to the warning track in right on the second pitch. (1 out)
Walker PH for Eckstein. Single past first.
Mabry for Reyes. Flies to warning track in center; runner still at first. (2 outs)
Pujols grounds to short; flips to second for the third out.

AND THIS ONE BELONGS TO THE REDS!

BoydsOfSummer
09-20-2005, 11:06 PM
he kinna railed on about how profane I was and how Pedro was a boob and folks in Portland must be proud of him. Seems Martin doesn't like to hear "Like It Is" when it comes to himself.

capndees
09-20-2005, 11:07 PM
Rich "Roger Dorn" Aurilia's Home Road splits:
Home:
AB AVG OBP SLG OPS
192 .333 .378 .573 .951
Road:
194 .222 .293 .314 .607

So. He's the poster child for 2 phenomenons. BA driven OBP and the extreme example (Coors field'esque) of a player that's game perfectly matches his home ballpark.

He's Cal Ripken (in a good year) at home and Mark Belanger (in a bad year) on the road.

I say sign him for $1 mil for next year and ONLY play him at home.

pedro
09-20-2005, 11:09 PM
he kinna railed on about how profane I was and how Pedro was a boob and folks in Portland must be proud of him. Seems Martin doesn't like to hear "Like It Is" when it comes to himself.

awesome. :laugh: :laugh:

i'll be sure to listen to it when it gets archived.

KronoRed
09-20-2005, 11:12 PM
And YOU do? ;)

Ouch

:laugh:

pedro
09-21-2005, 12:19 AM
At least you signed your name...

I sent it from my personal account which is firstnamelastname@eathlink.net so it's hardly like I was hiding. I signed it like I did b/c it's not about ME or getting MY NAME on the radio, it's about the fact that I'm a lifelong Reds fan and Marty is ruining the listening experience for many of us.

I may live in Portland, but I'm from Cincinnati and the Reds are my team. It's so typical of Marty to belittle my comments because they didn't come from someone in Cincinnati. Being that he's a megalomaniac with a provincial worldview I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Doc. Scott
09-21-2005, 12:25 AM
Not all of us in Portland hate Marty. But I wasn't listening tonight.

And Pedro is equal-opportunity about this... he hates Marty AND George AND Chris. Don't know about Steve.

pedro
09-21-2005, 12:32 AM
Not all of us in Portland hate Marty. But I wasn't listening tonight.

And Pedro is equal-opportunity about this... he hates Marty AND George AND Chris. Don't know about Steve.

Steve's pretty good, at least from a technical standpoint, and I think Chris would be bearable with someone more competent than George as his partner.

Listening to Marty is like going to see a band that used to be really great but isn't anymore. Maybe two or three of the songs really rock but most of it is just boring and useless, and it makes you sad.

Ron Madden
09-21-2005, 05:35 AM
When I heard Marty read two of the best emails ever I knew that they were sent by members of RedZone.

Marty always does well with the PBP in the first and 9th innings. My gripe is that he stinks at doing his job in the innings in between.

Marty was once one of the best PBP Announcers ever.

If he was anywhere as bad when he first started as he is now, he would never have made it into the HOF.

It's my opinion that if Marty did TV for FSO and George Grand did PBP on WLW radio Andy Furman, Segman, and Matt would spit the bit with Marty and fight each other to get a jaw full of George.

Heath
09-21-2005, 07:33 AM
Rich "Roger Dorn" Aurilia's Home Road splits:
Home:
AB AVG OBP SLG OPS
192 .333 .378 .573 .951
Road:
194 .222 .293 .314 .607

So. He's the poster child for 2 phenomenons. BA driven OBP and the extreme example (Coors field'esque) of a player that's game perfectly matches his home ballpark.

So....ummm..does he have a hot wife that Matt Belisle sleeps with...... ;)

Sorry....this Major League reference is getting out of hand...

traderumor
09-21-2005, 11:26 AM
I get annoyed by Marty, but only as it pertains to baseball knowledge. All of the other complaints seem to be so much nitpicking. There is a lot of dead time in a baseball game, and a lot of folks like the small talk about personal matters. I suppose he could go the route that Grande and Welsh do and repeat the same info about the opponent throughout a series, or talk ad infinitum about what the Reds FO should be doing.

westofyou
09-21-2005, 11:31 AM
All of the other complaints seem to be so much nitpicking.

If nit picking involves missing 2 out every pitches thrown or not once mentioning the score in 3 innings then I'm guilty as charged.

It would be nice to hear the Reds radio team talk about the type of stuff a pitcher has not the type of stuff that a golf bag has.

Falls City Beer
09-21-2005, 01:23 PM
I sent it from my personal account which is firstnamelastname@eathlink.net so it's hardly like I was hiding. I signed it like I did b/c it's not about ME or getting MY NAME on the radio, it's about the fact that I'm a lifelong Reds fan and Marty is ruining the listening experience for many of us.

I may live in Portland, but I'm from Cincinnati and the Reds are my team. It's so typical of Marty to belittle my comments because they didn't come from someone in Cincinnati. Being that he's a megalomaniac with a provincial worldview I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

If you had mentioned white dogturds, Marty would have loved you.

traderumor
09-21-2005, 02:45 PM
If nit picking involves missing 2 out every pitches thrown or not once mentioning the score in 3 innings then I'm guilty as charged.

It would be nice to hear the Reds radio team talk about the type of stuff a pitcher has not the type of stuff that a golf bag has.I thought you quit listening to Marty?

westofyou
09-21-2005, 02:53 PM
I thought you quit listening to Marty?

Gee, I wonder why? :laugh: