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Heath
12-04-2005, 07:09 PM
Finally, the Irish can't duck the Buckeyes anymore ;)

Should be interesting. Wasn't sure if AARP was sponsoring the Orange Bowl. ;)

USC & Texas should be entertaining.

Good job by the BCS - except for the minor disturbence in Eugene, Oregon.

ochre
12-04-2005, 07:28 PM
OSU was guaranteed by the provision in the BCS contract that puts an at large that is 4th or higher in as an automatic.

Notre Dame benefited from a similar provision that they get for being 6th or higher.

dman
12-04-2005, 07:33 PM
To me, seeing the Bucks and the Irish go head to head will be almost as good as 2003's Championship game

ochre
12-04-2005, 07:33 PM
Oh, and:

jmcclain19
12-04-2005, 07:40 PM
Buckeye fans and Irish fans in town for a week.

Oh joy. :rolleyes:

KronoRed
12-04-2005, 07:42 PM
Buckeye fans and Irish fans in town for a week.

Oh joy. :rolleyes:
Vacation ;)

OnBaseMachine
12-04-2005, 08:21 PM
My picks:

USC rolls over Texas.

OSU in a close win over Notre Dame.

West Virginia shocks Georgia.

Penn State knocks off FSU is a close game.

Oregon is screwed for the second time since 2001.

Unassisted
12-04-2005, 08:22 PM
Buckeye fans and Irish fans in town for a week.

Oh joy. :rolleyes:If it would help, we could post links here to sites with lyrics and music to both schools' fight songs. That way you would know what the fans are singing and could even sign along.

And I learned last year that if you meet a group of Buckeye fans on the street and they yell out "O-H!" the correct response is "I-O!"

:evil:

OnBaseMachine
12-04-2005, 08:27 PM
BTW, jm, could your Wildcats be the Pac-10 team that gets screwed next year? Willie Tuitoma and Michael Thomas form a solid core of offense to build around, the defense is already solid, and 'Zona is bringing in another solid recruiting class. I could definitely see Arizona having a great 2006 season and potentially reaching 9 or 10 wins. They just may be next year's version of Penn State.

jmcclain19
12-04-2005, 08:33 PM
If it would help, we could post links here to sites with lyrics and music to both schools' fight songs. That way you would know what the fans are singing and could even sign along.

And I learned last year that if you meet a group of Buckeye fans on the street and they yell out "O-H!" the correct response is "I-O!"

:evil:


Sadly - I know both quite well. ND was in the Fiesta a few years back where they got pummeled by Oregon State. They were here again last year, where they again lost to the Beavers. OSU obviously has been here a few times in the last few years.

I go to the Tempe Block party every year which is always teeming with fans from both Fiesta Bowl teams.

westofyou
12-04-2005, 08:35 PM
I go to the Tempe Block party every year which is always teeming with fans from both Fiesta Bowl teams.And you probably aren't wearing a coat and gloves either... so what cha belly aching about? ;)

Heath
12-04-2005, 09:36 PM
And you probably aren't wearing a coat and gloves either... so what cha belly aching about? ;)


the millions of dollars pumped into the local economy doesn't hurt either... ;)

captainmorgan07
12-04-2005, 09:36 PM
buckeyes in a close one to much defense for old charlie wiess and brady quinn

traderumor
12-04-2005, 09:47 PM
How many articles can be written about the hometown boy (Quinn) leaving town and beating the hometown team? Las Vegas Over/Under ought to be at least 100.

Newport Red
12-04-2005, 10:06 PM
Finally, the Irish can't duck the Buckeyes anymore ;)

Should be interesting. Wasn't sure if AARP was sponsoring the Orange Bowl. ;)

USC & Texas should be entertaining.

Good job by the BCS - except for the minor disturbence in Eugene, Oregon.

Didn't the Buckeyes and Irish have a home and home within the last decade?

redsfan30
12-04-2005, 10:16 PM
Didn't the Buckeyes and Irish have a home and home within the last decade?
1995 and 1996 I believe with Ohio State winning both.

MWM
12-04-2005, 11:33 PM
This is a bad matchup for the Buckeyes. Notre Dame is one of the few teams who could really score quickly against the Bucks defense. Their weakness is pass defense and no one does it better than ND. ND's style of play could really put a crimp in Tressel ball. I think ND wins this one by 13 points.

Unassisted
12-04-2005, 11:57 PM
Tomorrow, the Dispatch is re-running this story from the last time OSU and ND met in South Bend.

Buckeyes bulldoze Irish
Cooper says 'It doesn't get much better' than a 29-16 win at ND
By Tim May
The Columbus Dispatch
Sunday, September 29, 1996

SOUTH BEND, Ind. - John Cooper held the game ball high so everyone could see.

It had just been presented to him by his Ohio State football team late yesterday afternoon in honor of his 150th victory. Cooper was about to give it back.

His fourth-ranked Buckeyes had just spanked fifth-ranked Notre Dame 29-16 in Notre Dame Stadium. They had evened an age-old score, tying the short-lived series between the traditional college football titans at 2-2, with no renewal in sight.

''I told our squad this is a great victory for the Ohio State football program,'' Cooper said. ''It doesn't get much better. There aren't many teams . . . who come in here, in this environment, and beat an outstanding Notre Dame football team.''

History aside, the Buckeyes answered the question that had dogged them in the wake of their season-opening blitzes of Rice and Pittsburgh. Were they that good?

Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz had an answer, at least after yesterday.

''The better football team won the game,'' he said.

On the scoreboard and the stat sheet, the Buckeyes dominated. With Pepe Pearson running for 173 yards and two touchdowns, and catching two passes for 42 yards, they outgained the Fighting Irish 391-280. They rushed for 206 and passed for 185.

''I think we answered a lot of questions,'' said junior quarterback Stanley Jackson, who had to leave the game late because of a mild knee sprain.

''People wanted to know if our offense was good enough to score points against a good defense. I think we proved that today.

''And our defense is just outstanding. They came out and played real good today.''

The defense held the vaunted Notre Dame running game to 126 yards. And it befuddled and punished Notre Dame quarterback Ron Powlus with an all-out blitzing attack, the likes seldom seen from an Ohio State team.

Holtz, who watched his team fall to the Buckeyes for the second straight year, concurred.

He said a 90-yard punt return by Autry Denson for an apparent Notre Dame touchdown with 3:35 left would have given his team hope, but it was called back because of a holding penalty. Otherwise, he gave credit where it was due.

''This is as good a team as we've played for a while,'' Holtz said.

''This was an excellent Ohio State team, and particularly when they do a lot of things you aren't prepared for. But I give them credit. They're allowed to do that.

''If they can play the way they did today, and control the line of scrimmage like that, they can go a long way.''

There was no doubt about the Buckeyes' intent yesterday, Cooper said.

''I think our kids came in here on a mission,'' he said. ''And they got it done, from the opening kickoff on.''

Dimitrious Stanley's 85-yard return of that kick, to the Notre Dame 13, set it in motion. Four plays later, Pearson had his first TD, on a 3-yard run.

The extra point was botched by a high snap, a sign of the tough times to come for the kicking game, but the statement had been made. Even as Notre Dame converted a turnover - an interception of a batted pass by Jackson - into a 15-yard TD drive in the first quarter, the game had developed a positive feel for the Buckeyes.

That was manifested by the next possession, a seven-play, 80-yard drive in which every down was a first down, except for a 25-yard pass from Jackson to a diving John Lumpkin on second-and-11 from the Notre Dame 27. On the next play, Jackson hit wide-open Matt Calhoun for the 2-yard TD pass, and the Buckeyes, who failed on a two-point try, were ahead for good at 12-7.

Backup quarterback Joe Germaine drove them to a 24-yard field goal by Josh Jackson with 3:52 left in the second quarter. Then came the crusher, at least in the mind of OSU offensive coordinator Joe Hollis: a six-play 84-yard drive led by Jackson.

''The biggest point for us offensively was when we took the ball the last drive of the second quarter and took it down the field running and passing, and took the ball in for a touchdown,'' Hollis said.

''You could single out the slant that Pepe caught (for 26 yards), or the vertical Michael Wiley caught (for 31). But that whole drive - from an emotional standpoint or psychological standpoint - I don't know what it did for our football team, but it had to be all positive.''

Topped off by Pearson's 1-yard TD run with 54 seconds left, it capped a first half of domination by the Buckeyes.

When the defense held the Fighting Irish to a field goal at the end of a 63-yard drive to start the third quarter, the victory was in the works. It looked even more so when Jackson hit D.J. Jones on a 13-yard touchdown pass eight minutes later.

With 10:35 left in the game, the defense again stood up to a long Notre Dame drive. Powlus stood in against a blitz to hit Denson over the middle on fourth-and-11 from the OSU 26. But Denson was stopped 2 yards short of the first down by safety Damon Moore.

Just when it appeared the Buckeyes were going to put it away, Pearson - a play after a 38-yard run to the ND 37 - lost a fumble to the Irish's Ivory Covington. Notre Dame used a 42-yard catch and run by tight end Kevin Carretta to set up a 9-yard TD run by fullback Marc Edwards, his second of the game, and the Irish trailed just 29-16.

It stayed that way after nose guard Luke Fickell, who'd had an interception earlier, blocked the extra-point attempt. And after Ty Goode was called for grabbing Antoine Winfield's jersey on Denson's punt return, the score stayed 29-16 for posterity.

''We will celebrate tonight, no doubt,'' OSU tackle Orlando Pace said. ''But then we've got to go out and prepare for (third-ranked) Penn State next week.

''It's going to be a tough road ahead of us. We've just got to go out and keep playing like this.''

LoganBuck
12-05-2005, 12:42 AM
This is a bad matchup for the Buckeyes. Notre Dame is one of the few teams who could really score quickly against the Bucks defense. Their weakness is pass defense and no one does it better than ND. ND's style of play could really put a crimp in Tressel ball. I think ND wins this one by 13 points.

I could not disagree with this more. Ohio State has large physical corners, that is where Notre Dame excels in the passing game. Szmardja (sp) and Stovall are both physical recievers. Fassano is a great pass catching tight end, but I don't think he will be able to bale Quinn out, with AJ Hawk covering him. I think Notre Dame will be able to score, but not enough to win.

Ohio State has an offense that gives defensive coordinators fits. Troy Smith has developed into one of the top dual threat quarterbacks in the nation. If Ohio State hadn't shot themselves in the foot several times in the Michigan game they would have won that game going away, like all of their games since the Penn State debacle. Notre Dame hasn't proven anything on defense all year. Had Michigan not been without the services of half their O-line and Mike Hart they would have beaten Notre Dame, imo.

Cedric
12-05-2005, 01:02 AM
There is a much better chance of TOSU stopping Notre Dame's offense than vice versa.

Heath
12-05-2005, 09:52 AM
I don't think the overall team speed of the Irish is comparable to Ohio State. While they played USC well (at home), the rest of the Irish schedule isn't a challenge as they are going to face in Arizona.

However, you are giving Jim Tressel & Charlie Weis a month to figure out a game plan. Ought to be a good one.

I'm going with Ohio State - (besides being a big fan) - I think the Michigan game gave them confidence galore.

OldRightHander
12-05-2005, 10:00 AM
It should be a good game, but I was really hoping that they wouldn't have to play each other. Since these are my two favorite teams, I was hoping they could both win a bowl game. OSU might have the edge with that defense, but Quinn is awfully good too.

Red Leader
12-05-2005, 11:24 AM
Over / Under on the number of defensive holds / pass interference calls Youboty has that aren't called is set at 6. I'm taking the over.

Dude can't defend unless he's got his one arm draped over the offensive player.

I sure hope they call those in this game.

RedFanAlways1966
12-05-2005, 12:15 PM
Over / Under on the number of defensive holds / pass interference calls Youboty has that aren't called is set at 6. I'm taking the over.

Dude can't defend unless he's got his one arm draped over the offensive player.

I sure hope they call those in this game.

Hmmmm.... must of helped him become 1st Team All Big 10 this season. And let it be known... by both the coaches and by the media (each selects its own). But not only does he fool the refs, he must fool the fooball experts who pick the All Big 10 team. Imagine all the holds that he SURELY must commit when the cameras do not focus on him b/c the ball does not come his way!!

:confused:

LoganBuck
12-05-2005, 12:28 PM
Youboty has the worst hands of any supposed top flight DB that I have ever seen. He has probably dropped 5-6 sure interceptions this year. He has all the talent but he does have issues with locating the ball on fly routes. But in terms of run support and physical ability he is right up there.

Red Leader
12-05-2005, 12:37 PM
Youboty has the worst hands of any supposed top flight DB that I have ever seen. He has probably dropped 5-6 sure interceptions this year. He has all the talent but he does have issues with locating the ball on fly routes. But in terms of run support and physical ability he is right up there.

This, I agree with. He is very, very good at run support, and has great physical ability. I'm guessing that is why the "experts" picked him for the Big 10 team, that and I'm sure being a part of OSU's defense didn't hurt him.

As far as pass coverage, I've watched it myself, specifically in the Texas and Michigan games, he walks a very, very thin line with his defense in pass coverage, most of them, when he is away from the play.

ochre
12-05-2005, 02:33 PM
Youboty doesn't hold nearly as much as you contend there RL. His biggest problem is finding the ball in the air and reacting to it. Its actual a system problem at OSU. They teach their corners to face guard instead of finding the ball. I hate it.

GAC
12-05-2005, 08:06 PM
The economy of Tempe, the week going into the game, is the BIG winner.

I see OSU winning. Has ND faced a defense this year such as OSU's?