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klw
12-05-2005, 05:42 PM
Forgive me if this has been discussed here before but I don't remember it ever coming up. Would you be interested in the Reds pursuing the Nomar to play Short or second (with Felipe at the other) for next year? For Nomar it would seem to make sense for a one year deal to have new friendly confines to rebuild his rep before going at free agency again next fall. For the Reds, it would give them a probably affordable, veteran middle infielder who can hit and respectably field. Obviously not a pitcher but better than Machado.

KronoRed
12-05-2005, 05:44 PM
I doubt he can stay healthy enough to hold down 2nd or SS.

harangatang
12-05-2005, 05:45 PM
Only for a minor league contract worth about $600,000.

flyer85
12-05-2005, 05:45 PM
not really ... he would be one and done and offense(with poor defense) is not what the Reds should be looking for.

Red Leader
12-05-2005, 05:48 PM
Nomar is still generating interest from a lot of teams. For what he would cost on the open market, I don't think it would be smart of the Reds to show any interest.

HBP
12-05-2005, 05:55 PM
Wouldn't come cheap enough for the impact he would likely have. He would bring some plublicity though.

RedsManRick
12-05-2005, 05:56 PM
I'll take Nomar at 2B for 500K with a 1MM bonus at 300 PA and 500K for each additional 100 PA. I'm guessing he gets 4MM guarenteed from somebody though.

ochre
12-05-2005, 05:56 PM
I doubt he can stay healthy enough to hold down 2nd or SS.
So, you'd sign him to play 3rd?


:)

KronoRed
12-05-2005, 05:58 PM
I'd sign him to be the beer guy ;)

The_jbh
12-05-2005, 06:03 PM
When was nomar ever bad in the field? he's probably lost some range but i'd still imagine he is an above average SS

Redsland
12-05-2005, 06:12 PM
Can he pitch?

KronoRed
12-05-2005, 06:14 PM
When was nomar ever bad in the field? he's probably lost some range but i'd still imagine he is an above average SS
I'm sure he'd be great in the field I just don't think he'd be out there for more then 80 games.

Doc. Scott
12-05-2005, 06:52 PM
I bet Marty Brennaman would sign Nomar to play third.

I seriously doubt Garciaparra will get serious interest as a shortstop or second baseman. His range was never great in his prime and he ain't in no prime no more.

Red Leader
12-05-2005, 06:56 PM
I bet Marty Brennaman would sign Nomar to play third.

I seriously doubt Garciaparra will get serious interest as a shortstop or second baseman. His range was never great in his prime and he ain't in no prime no more.


Apparently the Padres are looking to play Nomah at 2B if they move Loretta.

reds44
12-05-2005, 07:24 PM
Depending on how much $ he wants, I would take him to play 2nd. This way if you he stays healthy is a bonifide all-star, but if he goes down you have Freel right behind him to play. Add that to giving Bergolla another year in AAA, and it works out well.

It all depends on how much cash he wants though.

Caseyfan21
12-05-2005, 07:32 PM
My roommate is a big Indians fan and he said the Indians were interested in signing Garciaparra. He isn't around and I didn't save his link, I'll try to post it later if possible.

Nugget
12-05-2005, 07:37 PM
No - if we were going to bring in a veteran we might as well bring back RA.

Topcat
12-05-2005, 11:55 PM
I would love nomah at 2b, dont be gin me the d problem hello! didn't aurillia get time there last year? It is a gamble worth takin at under 2 million.

4256 Hits
12-06-2005, 12:04 AM
I bet he is really kicking himself for turning down that big contract from Boston! What was that 5 years for 60 million. I don't think any other player in sports has turned down that large of contract and then started getting injuried and underperforming and make so much less.

Not to mention seeing the decline in both him and Jeter makes me even more impressed as to what Larkin did in his late 30's.

Nugget
12-06-2005, 12:08 AM
I would love nomah at 2b, dont be gin me the d problem hello! didn't aurillia get time there last year? It is a gamble worth takin at under 2 million.

At that price RA is still the better bet. He can play a decent 2B, has played with the infield before and has had a better injury history.

ED44
12-06-2005, 12:40 AM
The friendly confines of GABP could definitely help boost Nomar's offensive production IF he can stay healthy...I just don't see that happening though. However, if we could get him for $1 million for a year with incentives...it would, at least, be worth a look. I think there will be a bit more of a market for him than that though...so, I don't see that happening.

cincinnati chili
12-06-2005, 08:28 AM
The friendly confines of GABP



Myth.

GABP gives up a few more homers, but basically has played as a neutral park. The Reds poor pitching and above-average offense has made it appear to be a hitters park.

I wouldn't expect a park slingshot affect compared to Wrigley, and certainly not compared to Fenway.

deltachi8
12-06-2005, 09:52 AM
I believe I read that Nomahhhh is seekinga 4 year deal.

I dont think he'll get that, but thats another story...

ED44
12-06-2005, 02:17 PM
Myth.

GABP gives up a few more homers, but basically has played as a neutral park. The Reds poor pitching and above-average offense has made it appear to be a hitters park.

I wouldn't expect a park slingshot affect compared to Wrigley, and certainly not compared to Fenway.


It looks like Dunn, FeLo, & Aurilia benefited from playing in GABP the most. You're right though, in that our TERRIBLE pitching & above average offense makes GABP look like more of a launchpad that maybe it really is.

Here are the Reds stats home and away though...the numbers are a lot closer than I expected them to be.

Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO OBP SLG AVG

(H)Lopez 295 52 90 16 2 16 55 158 30 58 .368 .536 .305
(A)Lopez 285 45 79 18 3 7 30 124 27 53 .335 .435 .277

(H)Dunn 263 69 72 18 0 26 53 168 56 80 .418 .639 .274
(A)Dunn 280 38 62 17 2 14 48 125 58 88 .359 .446 .221

(H)Casey 256 37 75 14 0 4 28 101 22 21 .352 .395 .293
(A)Casey 273 38 90 18 0 5 30 123 26 27 .389 .451 .330

(H)Griffey 237 43 77 15 0 15 46 137 34 40 .412 .578 .325
(A)Griffey 254 42 71 15 0 20 46 146 20 53 .327 .575 .280

(H)Aurilia 214 39 71 12 2 11 50 120 18 31 .380 .561 .332
(A)Aurilia 212 22 49 11 0 3 18 69 19 36 .296 .325 .231

(H)Freel 186 39 52 11 1 2 9 71 30 29 .396 .382 .280
(A)Freel 183 30 48 8 2 2 12 66 21 30 .345 .361 .262

(H)Kearns 180 30 42 11 0 9 35 80 20 45 .307 .444 .233
(A)Kearns 207 32 51 15 1 9 32 95 28 62 .354 .459 .246

(H)Larue 179 21 46 13 0 6 24 77 17 50 .337 .430 .257
(A)Larue 182 17 48 14 0 8 36 86 24 51 .372 .473 .264

(H)Pena 173 27 47 13 0 11 33 93 14 62 .330 .538 .272
(A)Pena 138 15 32 4 0 8 18 60 6 54 .272 .435 .232

(H)JAVY 117 17 30 5 0 7 26 56 15 20 .336 .479 .256
(A)JAVY 104 19 32 6 0 7 24 59 15 17 .392 .567 .308

(H)EdE 74 9 17 7 0 3 12 33 6 18 .296 .446 .230
(A)EdE 137 16 32 9 0 6 19 59 14 42 .314 .431 .234

klw
10-31-2006, 10:17 AM
Would you be interested in the Reds pursuing the Nomar to play second (with Phillips at short) or as the right handed alternative for next year?

Slyder
10-31-2006, 07:37 PM
I believe I read that Nomahhhh is seekinga 4 year deal.

I dont think he'll get that, but thats another story...

Set the bar high and then negotiate to a medium unless someone pulls a Texas and agrees to it.

dunner13
10-31-2006, 07:42 PM
Apparently the Padres are looking to play Nomah at 2B if they move Loretta.

Why dont we get loretta then. Give them larue or milton for him, or a few prospects. Im not against trying nomar at 2nd but Im not sure im all for it. Loretta however would be a nice pickup, should be able pretty cheaply to.

blumj
10-31-2006, 08:00 PM
Loretta's a free agent. That was a post from last year.

Heath
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
It's a legitimate question that probably deserved it's owm thread for 2006. Too much old info here.

As far as Nomar here, it would be like getting Rich Aurilia minus the health. Too much risk. He needs to DH somewhere.

KronoRed
10-31-2006, 10:57 PM
Nomar has played 1 game in his career at 2nd, he spent all of last season at first.

He's done in the middle infield.

Will M
11-01-2006, 10:20 AM
1. he wants too much $

2. he wants too long of a contract

3. he is hugely injiry prone

4. he should play 1B or DH not 2b/ss/3b/etc

5. Nomar = the new Paul Molitor. A great player who can't stay healthy.
Molitor played 1B/DH for years and had a hall of fame career.

mound_patrol
11-01-2006, 10:45 AM
Has Nomar said if he wants to go back to the middle infield or is he happy playing 1B? That would kind of be key point before we even think about him