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Krusty
12-28-2005, 01:40 PM
If there was a pitcher to build a rotation around for this team, who would that be?

westofyou
12-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Wilbur Wood 1971-1975

Krusty
12-28-2005, 01:49 PM
Not bad WOY but there aren't too many knuckleball pitchers around today.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/woodwi01.shtml

westofyou
12-28-2005, 01:53 PM
Not bad WOY but there aren't too many knuckleball pitchers around today.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/woodwi01.shtml
Today... I'd take Santana

lollipopcurve
12-28-2005, 01:56 PM
Hard to argue with Santana. My #2 is Zambrano.

RedsManRick
12-28-2005, 02:03 PM
Factoring in youth, health, ability, and proven success, it would be hard to take anyone over Santana.

My top 5 would include Willis, Felix Hernandez, Peavy, and Oswalt. Honorable mentions to Prior, Buehrle, Harden, Zambrano and Beckett.

<edited b/c I forgot Zambrano>

lollipopcurve
12-28-2005, 02:08 PM
My top 5 would include Willis, Felix Hernandez, Peavy, and Oswalt. Honorable mentions to Prior, Buehrle, Harden, and Beckett.

Yeah, I forgot about Felix. No track record in the majors is an issue, but his stuff is as dominant as anybody's.

KronoRed
12-28-2005, 02:35 PM
Santana.

Can't argue with those results.

Red Leader
12-28-2005, 02:47 PM
My top 5 would be:

1. Santana
2. Halladay
3. F. Hernandez
4. Peavy
5. Oswalt

Prior, Buehrle, Harden, Zambrano, and Ben Sheets round out my top 10.

WebScorpion
12-28-2005, 03:48 PM
Hate to buck the trend...(yea right) but if I'm 'building' around a pitcher he's going to need TONS of experience. A pitcher who's been everywhere and done everything there is to do in this game and still has some left in the tank. I'd go with a Clemens, Martinez, Smoltz, or Schilling.

I'd start with Roger Clemens and build around him with Johan Santana, Ben Sheets, and Dontrelle Willis. I'd round out the rotation with either Jake Peavy or Rich Harden although I'd be very tempted for my 5th starter to go with potential like Felix Hernandez or Scott Kazmir.

Well, that's my two cents. :beerme:

Jpup
12-28-2005, 07:24 PM
Santana
Willis
Prior
Oswalt
Peavy

StillFunkyB
12-28-2005, 08:15 PM
Jack Bien.....oh wait, your not talking about fictional OOTP online leagues....

Ok then, I would have a hard time choosing either Santana, or Willis.

OnBaseMachine
12-28-2005, 08:32 PM
1) Rich Harden
2) Jake Peavy
3) Johan Santana
4) Dontrelle Willis
5) Mark Prior

PickOff
12-28-2005, 08:43 PM
I'd have to go with Santana as well. I would also consider Peavey and Kazmir. I think Kaz will be a huge stud when he gets those walks under control and beefs up a bit. The kid is only 21.

Santana
Peavey
Kazmir

RedsIn07
12-28-2005, 08:57 PM
1) Rich Harden
2) Jake Peavy
3) Johan Santana
4) Dontrelle Willis
5) Mark Prior
That's my list exactly. :thumbup:

Krusty
12-29-2005, 11:01 AM
Homer Bailey. Of course we will have to wait at least two more years for that to happen.

Other than that, Dontelle Willis would be on my list.

M2
12-29-2005, 12:21 PM
Johan Santana, best pitcher on the planet

TOBTTReds
12-29-2005, 01:29 PM
Hate to buck the trend...(yea right) but if I'm 'building' around a pitcher he's going to need TONS of experience. A pitcher who's been everywhere and done everything there is to do in this game and still has some left in the tank. I'd go with a Clemens, Martinez, Smoltz, or Schilling.


I'm thinking by the term build is to develop a rotation around that person. So it wouldn't happen over night. Those 4 you mention might be worthless in a few years. You would have to go with youth, or atleast not 2 years from retirement. I would go with Santana or Felix Hernandez. Let my young pitchers grow around the likes of these two studs (I know Hernandez has not achieved stud level yet, but he will shortly).

Red Leader
12-29-2005, 01:35 PM
Homer Bailey. Of course we will have to wait at least two more years for that to happen.



*cough* four years away *cough*

TOBTTReds
12-29-2005, 02:34 PM
*cough* four years away *cough*

I think this year will tell a lot about Homer Bailey's future. In about this same situation last year, Joey Votto took a step backwards. Homer has to learn to control his FB, and work on his Changeup. But if he gets his FB under control, I say '08 he is ready. If he is still walking 5 batters/9 innings or so, then I put him in '09. Maybe ST will show us something a bit more about him.

KronoRed
12-29-2005, 02:47 PM
Homer? he's a prospect, he could flame out in AA.

Newport Red
12-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Johan Santana
Roy Oswalt
Jake Peavy
Dontrelle Willis
Sidd Finch

Homer Bailey in 4 years.

Spitball
12-29-2005, 08:49 PM
I'm solidly with the Johan Santana crowd. I love to watch that guy pitch and try to figure out if it is the devastating fastball that makes that awesome change-up so great, or is it the awesome change-up that makes that fastball so devastating??? I remember wondering the same things with Mario Soto.

WebScorpion
01-03-2006, 04:08 PM
I'm solidly with the Johan Santana crowd. I love to watch that guy pitch and try to figure out if it is the devastating fastball that makes that awesome change-up so great, or is it the awesome change-up that makes that fastball so devastating??? I remember wondering the same things with Mario Soto.

It's the fact that their deliveries are identical that makes them BOTH so devastating. ;)

Spitball
01-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by WebScorpion
It's the fact that their deliveries are identical that makes them BOTH so devastating.

Right! ...and such a shame our own "Santana" was wasted on such horrible teams.

TOBTTReds
01-03-2006, 09:20 PM
"I became a good pitcher when I stopped trying to make them miss the ball and started trying to make them hit it." -Sandy Koufax

Spitball - appearantly gullett reads RZ

Betterread
01-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Johan Santana, no-one else is close. If you get the chance, see him pitch live. You can tell your grandchildren about the experience.

RedsBaron
01-06-2006, 01:18 PM
I'd say Santana. Unfortunately, DanO said Milton.

TheBigLebowski
01-07-2006, 12:12 AM
Mo Sanford
Ron Robinson
Bill Gullickson
Jack Armstrong
Scott Scudder

Next question.