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Cyclone792
01-16-2006, 02:08 AM
Vote for all STARTING PITCHERS with last names beginning with A-I that you believe should be in the Hall of Fame. This is a multiple-choice poll so you're allowed to vote for more than one player.

Technically this is A-H since there won't be anyone with a last name starting with I on the poll, but anyway here's the first of three polls for starting pitchers. There will be well over 100 starting pitchers ultimately listed and throwing them all on one poll is just screaming for people to accidentely forget to vote for someone. I'll wait the usual 1-2 weeks before putting up the next poll so as not to clutter the forum up with the HOF polls.

As usual, the tier system remains ...

19th century (i.e. pre 1903): Need 2/5 support
Early Modern (roughly 1903-1945): Need 1/2 support
Integration (roughly 1945-1970): Need 5/8 support
Post Integration (roughly 1970-present): Need 2/3 support

The one change I did make was using different statistics for the pitchers list, which I do not know if it's for better or for worse, but nevertheless this is what we'll roll with for this go around. It's pretty basic here, innings and ERA+ with the player's era designation.


Player Innings ERA+ Era
Babe Adams 2,995.1 117 Early Modern to WWII
Pete Alexander 5,190.0 135 Early Modern to WWII
Chief Bender 3,017.0 112 Early Modern to WWII
Vida Blue 3,343.1 108 Post Integration
Bert Blyleven 4,970.0 118 Post Integration
Tommy Bond 3,628.2 111 19th Century
Tommy Bridges 2,286.1 126 Early Modern to WWII
Three Finger Brown 3,172.1 138 Early Modern to WWII
Jim Bunning 3,760.1 114 Integration
Lew Burdette 3,067.1 98 Integration
Steve Carlton 5,217.1 115 Post Integration
Bob Caruthers 2,228.2 123 19th Century
Jack Chesbro 2,896.2 110 Early Modern to WWII
John Clarkson 4,536.1 134 19th Century
Wilbur Cooper 3,480.0 116 Early Modern to WWII




Player Innings ERA+ Era
Stanley Coveleski 3,082.0 127 Early Modern to WWII
Hooks Dauss 3,390.2 102 Early Modern to WWII
Dizzy Dean 1,967.1 130 Early Modern to WWII
Paul Derringer 3,645.0 108 Early Modern to WWII
Don Drysdale 3,432.0 121 Integration
Red Faber 4,086.2 119 Early Modern to WWII
Bob Feller* 3,827.0 122 Integration
Wes Ferrell 2,623.0 117 Early Modern to WWII
Freddie Fitzsimmons 3,223.2 111 Early Modern to WWII
Whitey Ford 3,170.1 132 Integration
Pud Galvin 6,003.1 108 19th Century
Lefty Gomez 2,503.0 125 Early Modern to WWII
Dwight Gooden 2,800.2 110 Post Integration
Clark Griffith 3,385.2 121 19th Century
Burleigh Grimes 4,180.0 107 Early Modern to WWII




Player Innings ERA+ Era
Lefty Grove 3,940.2 148 Early Modern to WWII
Ron Guidry 2,392.0 120 Post Integration
Noodles Hahn 2,029.1 132 Early Modern to WWII
Jesse Haines 3,208.2 108 Early Modern to WWII
Mel Harder 3,426.1 113 Early Modern to WWII
Orel Hershiser 3,130.1 112 Post Integration
Waite Hoyt 3,762.1 111 Early Modern to WWII
Carl Hubbell 3,590.1 130 Early Modern to WWII
Catfish Hunter 3,449.1 104 Post Integration

Cyclone792
01-19-2006, 01:38 AM
A bump for the poll regulars since some may have missed it due to a three day weekend :)

Big Klu
01-31-2006, 12:22 PM
Can we reopen this? I think it sort of got lost in the shuffle, what with all the recent news about Bob Castellini taking over, and the firing of DanO.

I really like voting on these things, and I can't believe that I missed this one. Judging by the number of respondents, it looks like a lot of others missed this one, too.

Boss-Hog
01-31-2006, 12:53 PM
Can we reopen this? I think it sort of got lost in the shuffle, what with all the recent news about Bob Castellini taking over, and the firing of DanO.

I really like voting on these things, and I can't believe that I missed this one. Judging by the number of respondents, it looks like a lot of others missed this one, too.
I can do that for, say, three more days, assuming that's OK with Cyclone.

M2
01-31-2006, 01:20 PM
I'm really glad to see all the support for Blyleven, but more votes for him than Pete Alexander, Lefty Grove and Carl Hubbell? Come on.

John Clarkson's in at the moment, but that could get dicey. I urge people to review his record.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/clarkjo01.shtml

He was one of the truly great pitchers of the 1800s.

westofyou
01-31-2006, 01:31 PM
He was one of the truly great pitchers of the 1800s.

He also liked to wear a big ol shiney belt buckle and tried his best to make sure the sun reflected off it and in the batters eyes.

Cyclone792
01-31-2006, 02:24 PM
I can do that for, say, three more days, assuming that's OK with Cyclone.

Go for it, Boss! Heck, reopen it for another week so there's plenty of time to get more votes in.

Boss-Hog
01-31-2006, 07:47 PM
Go for it, Boss! Heck, reopen it for another week so there's plenty of time to get more votes in.
It should be open until 2/8.

marcshoe
01-31-2006, 10:01 PM
Thanks. I haven't had time, but I should be able to vote by then.

remdog
01-31-2006, 11:49 PM
Can we reopen the election for President? I goofed and I'd like to try again. :evil:

Rem

Big Klu
02-01-2006, 11:38 PM
I voted for:

Alexander, Bender, Blyleven, Brown, Bunning, Carlton, Chesbro, Clarkson, Coveleski, Dean, Drysdale, Feller, Ford, Galvin, Gomez, Griffith, Grimes, Grove, Hubbell, and Hunter.


I thought that Alexander, Brown, Carlton, Dean, Feller, Ford, Grove, and Hubbell were the automatic choices.

Cyclone792
02-07-2006, 05:54 PM
Poll closes tonight so if you want to vote, vote now!

My ballot ...

Alexander, Blyleven, Brown, Carlton, Clarkson, Coveleski, Dean, Drysdale, Faber, Feller, Ford, Galvin, Gomez, Grove and Hubbell.

Cyclone792
02-17-2006, 02:48 AM
The final results ...



RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers A-I

Player % of votes
Pete Alexander 64.00 percent
Bert Blyleven 68.00 percent
Three Finger Brown 56.00 percent
Steve Carlton 88.00 percent
John Clarkson 48.00 percent
Dizzy Dean 76.00 percent
Don Drysdale 64.00 percent
Bob Feller 84.00 percent
Whitey Ford 80.00 percent
Pud Galvin 44.00 percent
Lefty Grove 84.00 percent
Carl Hubbell 80.00 percent

Every single player above is an actual MLB Hall of Famer ... except ... Bert Blyleven. Blyleven slid in with just enough support and joined 11 other pitchers that were among the A-I group to be elected to the RZ HOF.