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KYRedsFan
06-02-2005, 09:44 AM
I'm in the market for one, and was wondering if anyone has had good/bad experiences they could share, or some things to think about when browsing. Thanks all.

Blimpie
06-02-2005, 09:48 AM
LCD baby...LCD ;)

GIK
06-02-2005, 09:51 AM
KY, I was in the same boat but decided to go with a DLP front projector for my home theater. I was planning on posting pics of my setup here shortly (and would love to see other member's media setups too).

I mounted the projector to the ceiling about 15' back from the wall. The projected image is 92" diagonal in 16:9 widescreen.

I have a 61" RPTV in the living room and couldn't go smaller than that. :)

Let me know what you come up with if you do decide on plasma, though.

Johnny Footstool
06-02-2005, 09:52 AM
My father-in-law is an extremly careful consumer who researches every product before he buys. He looked into getting a plasma TV but passed on it because they can't be repaired. According to him, the whole TV is one integrated chunk of electronics. If something breaks, you have to replace the whole thing. He ended up buying a big-screen DLP for slightly less money than the plasma, and it's excellent.

Personally, I think if you put plasma, DLP, and LCD side-by-side, the plasma has a *slightly* better picture than the DLP, but both are extremely sharp and quite a bit better than the LCD.

Unassisted
06-02-2005, 09:53 AM
No matter what plasma screen you buy, next year's equivalent model will be 20% cheaper. Can you live with that?

smith288
06-02-2005, 10:09 AM
I have heard large LCD has a more blurred display when action gets high speed. DLP is the best picture from what I have heard.

Blimpie
06-02-2005, 10:13 AM
According to some electronics experts, Plasma TVs are going to be nearly obsolete within 3-5 years for several reasons:

Limited number of viewing hours per screen
Inability to maintain them once picture begins to degrade
Excessive weight relative to their size
Energy hogs

When LCD screens are able to be made in larger sizes, their prices will begin to drop (LCD prices are currently dictated by one or two glass suppliers as I understand). At that point, you won't hear much more about Plasmas.

Blimpie
06-02-2005, 10:14 AM
I have heard large LCD has a more blurred display when action gets high speed. DLP is the best picture from what I have heard.I have heard this too from certain specific brands.

919191
06-02-2005, 10:20 AM
I have a 42 inch LCD and I like it- the hi def is great, but sometimes some of the standard pictures are a bit blurred, but with my set-up, I am actually a little too close to the screen. For instance, Fox Sports Cincinnati is ok, but Comcast out of Chicago (Cubs and White Sox) is sometimes blurrred. Not constantly, but with certain camera shots- one camera will be a bit blurred, but then when the broadcast is switched to a different camera, it is clear. I don't understand too much about the technology, so I hope I made myself clear. My video hook-ups are made with component cables. I have the hook-ups for HDMI (I think that it what it is called) but the cable for HDMI is really expensive and after researching them on the internet I came to the conclusion that they really were not benficial enough to be worthy of the high cost unless the TV was very high-end (as in over $10.000.00).

Blimpie
06-02-2005, 10:22 AM
I have a 42 inch LCD and I like it- the hi def is great, but sometimes some of the standard pictures are a bit blurred, but with my set-up, I am actually a little too close to the screen. For instance, Fox Sports Cincinnati is ok, but Comcast out of Chicago (Cubs and White Sox) is sometimes blurrred. Not constantly, but with certain camera shots- one camera will be a bit blurred, but then when the broadcast is switched to a different camera, it is clear. I don't understand too much about the technology, so I hope I made myself clear. My video hook-ups are made with component cables. I have the hook-ups for HDMI (I think that it what it is called) but the cable for HDMI is really expensive and after researching them on the internet I came to the conclusion that they really were not benficial enough to be worthy of the high cost unless the TV was very high-end (as in over $10.000.00).42" is nearly the maximum size available in LCD, no? Do you mind saying which brand?

919191
06-02-2005, 10:23 AM
I haven't noticed any blurring with high speeds on my LCD. I'll have to keep an eye out. I did watch most of The Matrix last night and am gonna finish it up today, and I didn't notice any blurring, and some of that action is faster than Kevin Mitchell at a buffet line.

919191
06-02-2005, 10:24 AM
42" is nearly the maximum size available in LCD, no? Do you mind saying which brand?

Sony Wega KDF42WE655

Blimpie
06-02-2005, 10:28 AM
I haven't noticed any blurring with high speeds on my LCD. I'll have to keep an eye out. I did watch most of The Matrix last night and am gonna finish it up today, and I didn't notice any blurring, and some of that action is faster than Kevin Mitchell at a buffet line.Sssshh! Kevin can hear you...

http://www.austinpowers.com/objects/images/fatbastardstanding.jpg

919191
06-02-2005, 10:44 AM
Is that Dante Bichette?

RFS62
06-02-2005, 10:48 AM
I've got a 60 inch Hitachi LCD and Bose surround sound in my setup. We couldn't be happier with the performance.

GIK
06-02-2005, 10:48 AM
That sounds slick, RFS. You and 91 need to post some pics. :)

Blimpie
06-02-2005, 10:49 AM
Is that Dante Bichette?Oops, my mistake. By the way--those aren't sweatbands on his wrists. They had to cut his shirt off on laundry day. :angry:

TRF
06-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Ebay has a number of DLP's listed. as low as $100.

I'm buying one i think.

BuckU
06-02-2005, 11:09 AM
I have a 52" LCD and I love it, especially with the HD hookup. I truley believe plasma is nothing more than a gimmick that won't be able to stand the test.

On a related note, does anybody else have a JBL 7-piece theatre? I have had it roughly a year now and I don't think I care much for the performance. Maybe it's my reciever, but I wanted to see somebody else's performance.

GIK
06-02-2005, 11:10 AM
One hundred bucks for a DLP? Size? Rear projecton TV or a Front projector? Insane.

Red Leader
06-02-2005, 11:23 AM
I still have my 50" Mitsubishi wide screen that I bought back in 1999, before all of the HDTV, etc, etc, stuff became "all the rage". I have a Sony receiver, that is also older (1997) and I bought a Harmon Kardan surround sound package (5 speakers, and a sub). I love my speakers, they are awesome.

We're moving at the end of July and I'm (hopefully) going to upgrade my TV and receiver, so this thread is of high interest to me. Thank you everyone for your input so far. I love hearing about home theatre setups. Hope everyone posts what setup they have now and what they like/dislike about it, and what they've heard as far as future enhancements, etc.

creek14
06-02-2005, 11:42 AM
We have plasma monitors and a plasma TV here at work. Nothing I have ever seen compares to the quality of the display.

paintmered
06-02-2005, 11:44 AM
We have plasma monitors and a plasma TV here at work. Nothing I have ever seen compares to the quality of the display.


Creek's monitor is a thing of beauty. Second only to her Adam shrine ;)

KYRedsFan
06-02-2005, 03:39 PM
Thanks for all the replies. DLP would be my first choice, but because of the my place in chicago, I just don't think it would fit. I'm going back and forth between the affordability and actually decent reviews of the Dell 42 inch and the popular panasonic 42's.

GIK
06-02-2005, 03:54 PM
If you haven't been, go over to the AV Science Forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/

KYRedsFan
06-02-2005, 10:22 PM
I'm heading to the stores tomorrow, gonna have to see if the DLP's would fit. I really want to go that route, but in this one, size does matter.

GIK
06-03-2005, 06:08 PM
Well, here's my current setup pretty much complete. I need to replace the carpet, but we finished the walls (paint) and screen a few days ago. The DLP is mounted above the drop ceiling - as you can see in the third picture - oh, and I also need to route a few cables a bit better. Overall, I'm pleased with ~94" diagonal. :)

Home Theater 1 (http://www.redszone.com/ttf/HTa_sm.jpg)
Home Theater 2 (http://www.redszone.com/ttf/HTb_sm.jpg)
Home Theater 3 (http://www.redszone.com/ttf/HTc_sm.jpg)

OldRightHander
10-27-2005, 01:34 PM
My wife and I are in the market for a new tv. The one we have is still working just fine, but it's just a 27" one that I've had for going on 10 years and we've been thinking of upgrading to a new widescreen one. Actually, all she cares about is that the tv is flat and doesn't take up as much space as the CRT ones, while I'm the one who is insisting on the wide screen format. I'm the movie junkie in the family and I buy all my DVDs in widescreen format and would love a widescreen tv to watch them on. I'd be happy with another CRT if it was a widescreen, but she really wants one "that doesn't stick out in the back."

So there's the dilemna. I am used to keeping a tv for years, basically using them until they finally give out, which takes a while for the CRT ones. We've been in so many stores comparing prices on all of the various new ones out there now and we're still no closer to a decision. LCD or Plasma? Wall mounted or not? It seems that there are a lot of choices to make, but my main concern is how long the darn thing is going to last if I spend that much money on it. I have a flat panel LCD monitor for my computer and it has lasted me six years so far. Can I count on one of those new TVs lasting at least that long, or hopefully longer? I have heard stories about how they don't last as long and that you basically have to replace them when they give out because they're too expensive to repair.

So I need some advice from a tech geek. I just want something that has a wide screen and I think I will need to go with one of the new LCD or Plasma ones to satisfy my wife's space saving kick she's been on lately. (watching too much HGTV.) I also want something that I won't be having to replace in a couple years. Any suggestions?

Blimpie
10-27-2005, 01:44 PM
If you are looking for longevity, steer clear of plasma.

smith288
10-27-2005, 01:55 PM
Projector! No huge device and is about as flat screen as you can be. :)

Heath
10-27-2005, 04:19 PM
I got a great deal on a 36' box TV for $225 at Best Buy! I have a remote too!
























;)

NJReds
10-27-2005, 04:42 PM
You might want to consider a "digital ready" or HDTV set.

link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051027/tc_nm/digital_tv_dc_1)


All TV digital by end of 2008
By Jeremy Pelofsky
Thu Oct 27, 8:33 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House Energy and Commerce Committee on Wednesday approved a measure ordering the switch to higher-quality digital broadcasts be finished by the end of 2008, setting up a clash with the Senate.

The House panel approved 33-17 a bill that would require television stations to end their analog broadcasts on December 31, 2008 so some of those airwaves can be used by emergency responders and the rest can be sold for wireless services.

The Republican-backed measure offers up to $990 million to subsidize converter boxes that would switch digital broadcasts back into analog so existing television sets would continue to work.

Democrats argued that the money, which includes $160 million for administrative expenses, was insufficient to provide converters for tens of millions of broadcast-only television sets.

"We can be responsible ... or we can throw caution to the wind and basically have the U.S. Treasury spend over $10 (billion) to $12 billion if everybody took advantage of the program," said Rep. Joe Barton (news, bio, voting record), chairman of the committee and a Texas Republican.

The committee defeated two amendments to expand the subsidy plan, including one that would have given every household two vouchers for converter boxes, each worth up to $60.

Lawmakers also defeated an attempt by Rep. Steve Buyer (news, bio, voting record), an Indiana Republican, to strip all the money out for a subsidy program.

Pay television services are expected to offer customers either digital signals or an analog conversion of the digital broadcast.

The Senate Commerce Committee has approved a measure to set April 7, 2009, as the digital transition deadline and includes up to $3 billion to subsidize the converter boxes.

Any differences between the House and Senate bills would have to be resolved during a conference of lawmakers from both chambers.

JUST WAIT TILL TV SETS "GO BLACK"

Sen. John Ensign (news, bio, voting record), a Nevada Republican, said he would try to cut the $3 billion subsidy on the Senate floor while Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives warned that Congress would likely face the consequences if televisions go dark in 2009.

"When 70 million television sets go black on December 31, 2008, three years from now, I can tell you people are going to have very strong opinions about it," said Rep. Edward Markey (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts Democrat.

Some of the vacated analog airwaves would be used for emergency first responder communications and the rest would be sold for commercial wireless services, a sale that could bring in $10 billion or more according to some estimates.

The House panel approved $500 million to help emergency first responders better communicate with each other and across jurisdictions. Lawmakers narrowly defeated an attempt by Democrats to increase the amount to $5.8 billion.

The Senate approved $1 billion for emergency communications.

There are about 21 million homes in the United States that rely solely on broadcast television, while most households subscribe to cable or satellite services.

Many homes have multiple television sets. The National Association of Broadcasters has estimated there are about 73 million television sets that may need converter boxes.

Current law requires stations to switch to only digital broadcasts when 85 percent of the country can receive the new signals, or by December 31, 2006, whichever comes later. Experts have said that could take a decade, prompting lawmakers to seek a more certain date.

WMR
10-27-2005, 06:05 PM
Sony Wega. Whether you buy LCD or Plasma, Sony's Wega system is second to none. People see the Sony brand and think it is a lot more expensive, but from what I've seen, the price difference among the "top-shelf" brands are negligible.

A bit on Sony WEGA:


Sony's WEGA Engine™ system is an intelligent picture enhancement system that generates a fully-digital flat panel TV picture with stunning sharpness and realism.

Traditional fixed pixel LCD and Plasma televisions create images by "scaling" the input signal to the specific number of pixels in the display. This involves several analog to digital conversions during each signal-processing phase. With each conversion, the signal quality is degraded.

The WEGA Engine™ system processes the picture digitally from start to finish, generating fully refined, ultra-realistic screen images from any source. Television broadcasts (both HD and standard), DVDs, VHS recordings, and Camcorder movies come to life with amazing clarity.

Sony Plasma and LCD televisions with the WEGA Engine™ system also use Direct Digital Circuitry, the DRC™ Multi-Function system and MID™ X circuitry for sharper and more superior pictures.


I own a Sony Widescreen 60" television and there is absolutely no better way to watch a DVD. If you're going to get a widescreen television, whatever service you use, cable or satellite, GET HDTV!! There's no better way to watch sporting events, and for a sports fan like you ORH, you won't want to watch a sports game any other way after seeing it showcased in HD (maybe you already have?). Plus, Discovery Theater HD (Discovery Channel in HD) is worth the extra cost of HD (for my service around 15 bucks per mo.) by itself!

Oh yeah, and get yourself some surround sound!

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=hav_HomeTheater_HTSeries&Dept=tvvideo

The sound quality when watching DVDs with Digital Audio (supported by all new surround systems) is UNBELIEVABLE. Complete surround sound systems start at $200.00. Also, you can hook your satellite/cable up to the surround sound system as well, which is nice.

RBA
10-27-2005, 06:43 PM
15 percent off Open Box TV at Best Buy......
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat70500050005&type=category


Also Circuit City....

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/genericContent.do?oid=134935&carriage=befree&sourceid=qIp6Q2FXxqJKATGUDFK6&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&affiliateid=20026380&BV_UseBVCookie=No

Unassisted
10-27-2005, 06:52 PM
You might want to consider a "digital ready" or HDTV set.

link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051027/tc_nm/digital_tv_dc_1)The potential windfall from spectrum leases is much bigger than the $3 billion it will cost to free up the analog TV channels. Personally, I think the $3 billion subsidy will stay in the bill and we will be able to line up and receive the DTV tuners to retrofit our analog TVs by the Feds. Since the price difference between good analog and digital TVs is much more than $50, it'd be worth waiting to see if this bill passes.

Reds Fanatic
10-27-2005, 10:15 PM
A few months ago I bought a 42" widescreen Sony TV. The model number I got was KDF-42WE655. It is an LCD HDTV. The HDTV picture is spectacular. Like Wilymo said there is no better way to watch sporting events than HDTV. Also this has an HDMI connection that I have my DVD player hooked up with and the movies look great on this TV. I got my tv on sale at HH Gregg for about $1799. As far as how long LCDs last after about 8,000 hours of use there is a lightblub inside that needs to be replaced. That usually costs a few hundred each time the bulb needs replaced unless you have a service agreement where they replace it for you. But outside the bulb needing replaced the LCD should last for a lot of years. They have more longevity than Plasma's though Plasmas are getting better than they were a few years ago.

919191
10-28-2005, 02:04 AM
A few months ago I bought a 42" widescreen Sony TV. The model number I got was KDF-42WE655. It is an LCD HDTV. The HDTV picture is spectacular. Like Wilymo said there is no better way to watch sporting events than HDTV. Also this has an HDMI connection that I have my DVD player hooked up with and the movies look great on this TV. I got my tv on sale at HH Gregg for about $1799. As far as how long LCDs last after about 8,000 hours of use there is a lightblub inside that needs to be replaced. That usually costs a few hundred each time the bulb needs replaced unless you have a service agreement where they replace it for you. But outside the bulb needing replaced the LCD should last for a lot of years. They have more longevity than Plasma's though Plasmas are getting better than they were a few years ago.

That's my TV, too , and I love it. Any bigger and it would be too big for me. My 4 year service agreement covers the bulb. I paid more for minr, though:thumbdown before the price dropped on this model a few months ago. I am an impulse buyer. I skipped the HDMI. The "expert info" I got was you had to be an expert with an extreme high end set to really see the benefit of those expensive cables, so I got the Monster component cables. I might try the HDMI though, as I heard they are cheaper now.

WMR
10-28-2005, 03:27 PM
919191; I was able to buy the MOST high-end HDMI cables that monster makes for a little bit over a hundred dollars on ebay. They retail new for $249.00!!

Do you have HD? That's the only reason you'd want to upgrade to HDMI over component, IMO. Or are you talking about DVD? For DVD, I feel that component is just as good b/c DVD isn't capable of producing a high-def picture anyway (true digital high-definition) which is the only difference between component and HDMI.

WMR
10-28-2005, 03:27 PM
Now when the new high-definition DVD players come out, however, that will be a different story.

REDREAD
10-28-2005, 10:02 PM
The potential windfall from spectrum leases is much bigger than the $3 billion it will cost to free up the analog TV channels. Personally, I think the $3 billion subsidy will stay in the bill and we will be able to line up and receive the DTV tuners to retrofit our analog TVs by the Feds. Since the price difference between good analog and digital TVs is much more than $50, it'd be worth waiting to see if this bill passes.

It seems reasonable for the gov to provide converter boxes, since they will have a net profit off it, and it is also an efficent use of bandwidth.
You've got to figure most people aren't going to go through the process of actually redeeming the vouchers for converter boxes.

Wesgate24
10-28-2005, 10:21 PM
LCD will last longer than Plasma screen TVs. But Plasme has a slightly sharper image.

Wes

919191
01-20-2006, 01:14 AM
I've asked this on a DBS message board, but didn't really get the answer I was looking for...or could understand. Sopme of those techno dudes are a bit cocky- I thing they spend more time in back of their TV than in front.

I have a question about over the air HD.
I have a Sony KDF-42WE655 television. It is HD ready- no integrated HD tuner. At least I am under the impression there isn't. The salesman at Circuit City told me it didn't- and I really didn't want an integrated tuner. I am in Terre Haute, In. 47804. No local station here broadcasts anything in HD. Unless I am either wrong, or they recently started. When I had my Tv search for channels, (for over the air broadcasts) it found 2 for the local CBS affiliate- channel 10 (the regular one) and 10.1. Some things look awful and all stretched out on 10.1. The other day I had it on 10.1 for an NFL game, and it looked great. It was in widescreen too. Would this just be a digital standard broadcast whereas 10 is analog? Or could I be wrong and maybe my TV has a HD tuner? Even though it looked great, it wasn't HD as far as I was concerned. It was in 16:9- full widescreen- no stretching at all. My antenna is just an inexpensive one I got for locals at a home improvement store. It isn't for HD as far as I know. They say there are no true HD antennae- but I only live 2 miles from the tower.

If it is in true widescreen is it HD?

SteelSD
01-20-2006, 02:38 AM
I've asked this on a DBS message board, but didn't really get the answer I was looking for...or could understand. Sopme of those techno dudes are a bit cocky- I thing they spend more time in back of their TV than in front.

I have a question about over the air HD.
I have a Sony KDF-42WE655 television. It is HD ready- no integrated HD tuner. At least I am under the impression there isn't. The salesman at Circuit City told me it didn't- and I really didn't want an integrated tuner. I am in Terre Haute, In. 47804. No local station here broadcasts anything in HD. Unless I am either wrong, or they recently started. When I had my Tv search for channels, (for over the air broadcasts) it found 2 for the local CBS affiliate- channel 10 (the regular one) and 10.1. Some things look awful and all stretched out on 10.1. The other day I had it on 10.1 for an NFL game, and it looked great. It was in widescreen too. Would this just be a digital standard broadcast whereas 10 is analog? Or could I be wrong and maybe my TV has a HD tuner? Even though it looked great, it wasn't HD as far as I was concerned. It was in 16:9- full widescreen- no stretching at all. My antenna is just an inexpensive one I got for locals at a home improvement store. It isn't for HD as far as I know. They say there are no true HD antennae- but I only live 2 miles from the tower.

If it is in true widescreen is it HD?

I have an HD monitor and have no integrated HD tuner. I purchased the widescreen as such because I have Dish Network- including an HD receiver so the integrated HD tuner was redundant.

If you have a real HD signal with an HD tuner, you should be able to clearly see the whiskers on a bug. Without the tuner, your picture won't necessarily be crud. It appears that you've got program input that allows for shows to be broadcast in widescreen mode. They'll look better than in regular mode because the widescreen pic is actually smaller pixel-wise.

In short, I don't think you've got HD. If you had actual HD input, you'd be devastated as to how clear the picture is.

919191
01-20-2006, 02:44 AM
I have an HD monitor and have no integrated HD tuner. I purchased the widescreen as such because I have Dish Network- including an HD receiver so the integrated HD tuner was redundant.

If you have a real HD signal with an HD tuner, you should be able to clearly see the whiskers on a bug. Without the tuner, your picture won't necessarily be crud. It appears that you've got program input that allows for shows to be broadcast in widescreen mode. They'll look better than in regular mode because the widescreen pic is actually smaller pixel-wise.

In short, I don't think you've got HD. If you had actual HD input, you'd be devastated as to how clear the picture is.


In the NFL game I was watching, I coild see the individual pieces od sod laid on the field. You know the rectangular pieces laid out. And since originally starting this thread, I looked at my specs on line and it has an ATSC Integrated Tuner. Isn't that a HD tuner?

SteelSD
01-20-2006, 03:02 AM
In the NFL game I was watching, I coild see the individual pieces od sod laid on the field. You know the rectangular pieces laid out. And since originally starting this thread, I looked at my specs on line and it has an ATSC Integrated Tuner. Isn't that a HD tuner?

Well, there ya' go. ;)

An ATSC Integrated Tuner will allow you to pick up free over-the-air HD broadcasts from local channels (if they broadcast in HD) using an antenna, but it's not going to allow you to receive anything that isn't broadcast in HD locally.

Sounds like you live near enough the local stations that you're able to receive their HD feeds. That's cool, but with the ATSC those will be the only HD signals you'll be able to view in HD on that TV.

Still, that's better than having no HD capability whatsoever. Unfortunately, where I live, I couldn't get local channel reception without getting a Dish Network or DirecTV package as their ain't an antenna in the world that could help. That being said, the HD packages I get from my satellite provider are simply ridiculous as to picture quality.

Reds Fanatic
01-20-2006, 09:30 AM
I have that same TV the Sony KDF-42WE655 and it does have an integrated HD tuner. That 10.1 channel is a Hi def channel. So the football game would have been in Hi def. You are able to pick up some local HD channels off your antenna. I get my hi def channels from Time Warner I have one of their HDTV DVR's and the picture quality on the HD channels is amazing. Also the reason some pictures may appear strechted out is the settings you have set on your TV. I am not at home now so I can't tell you all the settings. I have mine set to normal where HD signals show in full widescreen and non HD signals have bars on the sides. That way all programs appear normal. If you have it set to zoom or wide zoom or another one I don't remember now the TV will take a non HD program and stretch it to fill the whole screen which I think looks horrible. So even on 10.1 not all programs are in HD and on a non HD program may be streching because of the settings on the TV. If you have any questions about settings on that TV let me know I can look up some information since I have the same TV.

919191
01-20-2006, 09:39 AM
Thanks, RF. I was just surprised it had an HD tuner, since the guy who sold it to me said it didn't. When I have it on standard channel 10, nothing is stretched- it is full screen with the black bars on the side. It is just local stuff and commercials that stretch on 10.1. It goes back and forth- I guess switching between HD and the stuff that wasn't shot in HD.

I got this TV Christmas eve 2004. By last spring, the price had dropped about 600 dollars!

Unassisted
01-20-2006, 09:53 AM
I've asked this on a DBS message board, but didn't really get the answer I was looking for...or could understand. Sopme of those techno dudes are a bit cocky- I thing they spend more time in back of their TV than in front.

I have a question about over the air HD.
I have a Sony KDF-42WE655 television. It is HD ready- no integrated HD tuner. At least I am under the impression there isn't. The salesman at Circuit City told me it didn't- and I really didn't want an integrated tuner. I am in Terre Haute, In. 47804. No local station here broadcasts anything in HD. Unless I am either wrong, or they recently started.

I'd like to give you two great sources of information for your local HD situation.

http://antennaweb.org is an industry site which will, if you enter your street address, will give you information about what kind of antenna you need to receive HD broadcasts over the air, where to point it and how far you are from the transmitters. I entered 47804 there and found 3 stations supposedly broadcasting HD. WFXW and WTWO are the other two. FWIW, their estimates tend to be conservative. The site tells me I need an outdoor antenna, but I can receive all of the HD broadcasts in my county with a cheap set-top antenna. It's still useful information.

You can also go to the AVS Forum and post in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=186022), which discusses HD broadcasting specific to the Indy/Lafayette/Terre Haute markets. I know the equivalent thread for my market is very friendly and is frequented by engineers for the TV stations. You should be able to find other folks in that thread who are trying to receive your stations, too.

Good luck with your search for info.

RBA
01-20-2006, 09:58 AM
UA, I was just about to post the same info. AVSForum is the way to go for HD info.

GIK
01-20-2006, 10:24 AM
More info on your TV: http://www.kdf-42we655.com/

Nice pick up!

919191
01-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the links. I frequent a couple DBS boards, but I haven't seen that one, U. Thanks!

macro
01-20-2006, 11:33 AM
I have merged this thread with two other TV threads from the past few months. All three contain some really good insights for those of us who are still trying to sort through all of this new TV technology. Some posts may now be redundant, but I think it's worth it to gather all of this into one thread.

KYRedsFan
01-20-2006, 08:41 PM
Anyone have any experience with the new Direct TV mpeg4 HD offerings. From the musings on avsforum, it's been kinda buggy. I actually went with a samsung plasma, wall mounted it, and haven't looked back. Get great OTA feeds here in Chicago for the majority of the sports I care about. Just waiting for DTV to offer a MPEG 4 DVR, and ESPN HD will be mine!

919191
01-21-2006, 12:27 AM
Anyone have any experience with the new Direct TV mpeg4 HD offerings. From the musings on avsforum, it's been kinda buggy. I actually went with a samsung plasma, wall mounted it, and haven't looked back. Get great OTA feeds here in Chicago for the majority of the sports I care about. Just waiting for DTV to offer a MPEG 4 DVR, and ESPN HD will be mine!


Do you mean Dish Network? They are coming out with MPEG 4 technology, but the people mannig their phones in India don't really know too much about it. I've been on the phone several times, and I always get a different date of it's rollout, or I'm told there is no guarentee I can get the 211, the new 4 MPEG box. I wantn to swap mine , an 811, for it for free, like CEO Charlie said, but it has been a headache. Read some of thesse threads to see the problems.

http://www.highdefforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19

KronoRed
01-21-2006, 12:47 AM
DirecTV is also rolling out mpeg4, but right now it's just being used for HD local channels, as time goes on they plan to migrate everything to mpeg4 and offer more HD channels, but in the meantime they will raise prices again in March ;)

Just waiting for DTV to offer a MPEG 4 DVR, and ESPN HD will be mine!
Mid 06 from what I've heard.

RBA
01-21-2006, 07:51 AM
I have a HD Directv DVR based on the Tivo software. It's excellent. I hear the next generation Direct DVR's for mpeg4 will not involve Tivo software but Directv's own in-house software. And I hear it's not as good as Tivo.

KYRedsFan
01-21-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah, direct tv is done with Tivo.

KronoRed
01-22-2006, 12:53 AM
And the new DVR R-15 is (to put is nicely) a piece of junk.

Ever read Dish DVR horror stories? yeah..same thing.

creek14
01-22-2006, 09:24 AM
I have the Time Warner cable supplied HD DVR hooked up to a 62" TV. The picture is so good it's kind creepy.

RFS62
01-22-2006, 09:47 AM
I have the Time Warner cable supplied HD DVR hooked up to a 62" TV. The picture is so good it's kind creepy.


Yep, I've got two of those, one on a 60" Hitachi and one on a 40" Sony in my office.

It's the only way to fly.

KYRedsFan
01-22-2006, 12:20 PM
CES had the previews for the new HD DVR. The nuts and bolts looks good as far as inputs and aesthetics, but we'll see how the pic quality and interface go. I'm hopeful but wary as DirecTv seems to be crapping on the customer service lately.

KronoRed
01-22-2006, 12:35 PM
I'm hopeful but wary as DirecTv seems to be crapping on the customer service lately.
I had high hopes when Rupert Murdoch took over that he would do the best things to try and crush dish, instead he seems to be doing everything he can do turn DirecTV into a cable clone.

Price increases yearly, no new channels, sub standard equipment, customer service that stinks like poo.

RBA
01-22-2006, 03:25 PM
I had high hopes when Rupert Murdoch took over that he would do the best things to try and crush dish, instead he seems to be doing everything he can do turn DirecTV into a cable clone.

Price increases yearly, no new channels, sub standard equipment, customer service that stinks like poo.

Oh, the latest is Directv is going to a leased system where you rent the equipment like Cable tv does and once you cancel you send it in or a tech comes by and picks it up. You can still own your own equipment, but Directv will not subsidized it anymore.

macro
01-24-2006, 01:07 AM
How close are the prices for 42"-60" LCDs to stabilizing? Have they still got lots of room to come down? How much will today's $2500 Sony Wega 50" and the $1700 42" Sony Wega cost one year from now? We're thinking hard about buying, but I'm willing to wait if the prices are expected to drop enough.

Can anyone make a guess?

LawFive
02-22-2006, 03:20 PM
Lady at HHG Gregg told me last night that the life expectancy for a plasma is only 6600 hours. Anyone else here the same thing? If I'm dropping $1500-2000 for a TV, it darn well better last more than 3 years.

And what's up with $250 for a LCD bulb? Replacement required every other year according to the saleslady. Learning that those were required kinda soured me on the whole HD thing...again, if I'm spending that kind of cash, I expect a little more longevity. I'm thinking I'll just make due with my 27" Sharp I bought in 97 which still works just fine.

919191
02-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Check for a service agreement. It might cover the bulb on a LCD. I don't really do service aggrements, but I did on my LCD just because of this. This is why I complain about my wife and kids having the TV on all the time even when noone is watching it.

Reds Fanatic
02-22-2006, 04:21 PM
I also got a service agreement on my LCD and it covers the replacement bulbs. The bulbs are supposed to last about 8,000 hours before they need to be replaced.

RBA
02-22-2006, 04:27 PM
I also got a service agreement on my LCD and it covers the replacement bulbs. The bulbs are supposed to last about 8,000 hours before they need to be replaced.


And I would guess they will drop in price as most all electronics do over time.

919191
02-22-2006, 04:44 PM
I've had my LCD for 14 months, and they said the bulb retailedat aboout $400.00. I reas somewhere recently that the current price was half that now. I feel it is worth it for this TV. Hi Def is awesome!