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red-in-la
01-26-2006, 06:43 PM
So if the Reds trade Kearns, what about putting up an incentive laden contract to put Sammy Sosa in the Reds' RF?

Unassisted
01-26-2006, 06:47 PM
Unenhanced, cork-free Sammy is likely to provide smaller numbers at the plate than Ryan Freel, let alone Kearns or Pena.

Matt700wlw
01-26-2006, 06:48 PM
No.

westofyou
01-26-2006, 06:49 PM
No way, poor fielder, big ego on a severe downturn.

Pass.

red-in-la
01-26-2006, 06:52 PM
I am just guessing, but I think a return to the NL, in a park he loves to play in (GAB) would do him some good.

To me Ryan Freel is just not an everyday MLB player. And defensively he is bad where ever you put him. In the OF, he had some speed, but he has no arm....so playing him RF is a loser.

So, as soon as JR goes down or Kearns is traded, the candidates are Womack (yuch!), Freel (not everyday plase), Denorfia (could be or no....just up from AA) or who else?

I think Sammy, even at .250/24/85 is better than any of those alternatives. And from what ESPN is saying, he could be had on the cheap.

Besides, wouldn't you pay to see WMP play with Sammy?

westofyou
01-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Besides, wouldn't you pay to see WMP play with Sammy?

WMP, Sammy and Griffey in the middle might be the ugliest fielding outfield the human mind could conjure up.

pedro
01-26-2006, 06:59 PM
I am just guessing, but I think a return to the NL, in a park he loves to play in (GAB) would do him some good.

To me Ryan Freel is just not an everyday MLB player. And defensively he is bad where ever you put him. In the OF, he had some speed, but he has no arm....so playing him RF is a loser.

So, as soon as JR goes down or Kearns is traded, the candidates are Womack (yuch!), Freel (not everyday plase), Denorfia (could be or no....just up from AA) or who else?

I think Sammy, even at .250/24/85 is better than any of those alternatives. And from what ESPN is saying, he could be had on the cheap.

Besides, wouldn't you pay to see WMP play with Sammy?


In fact I'd pay to NOT see both those guys on the same team.

Sammy's done. Stick a fork in him. BTW- Washington is in the NL.

RFS62
01-26-2006, 06:59 PM
I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with Sammy Sosa.

red-in-la
01-26-2006, 06:59 PM
WMP, Sammy and Griffey in the middle might be the ugliest fielding outfield the human mind could conjure up.

I agree WOY......but if JR gets hurt and/or they trade Kearns, I am not sure alternatives would be any less painful.

Can you imagine WMP, JR and Tony Womack? Ouch and double-ouch.

Anyway you look at it, these Reds are not built for defense.

And if JR has some minor injuries, where they decide he has to play 1B, then you have Dunn, WMP and ? out there every day.

redsandrails
01-26-2006, 07:01 PM
I would rather make an OF of Dunn, Griffey and Pena and snag Durazo or Piazza to play 1B (would have gotten Thomas if the A's didn't).

Even Juan Gon... he had one expensive at bat last year but he can still play. Health is just the concern. I'd definately trade some offensive talent and pony up some mediocre pitching in exhange for an ace if possible. Why not??? If these old stars but gambles play well then that's great.... we can use them if we are in the race or else flip them for prospects. If they stink it up or get hurt ohh well..... didn't cost much and we still have guys like Donoforia and such and if worst comes to worst then try again next year.

RedsManRick
01-26-2006, 07:04 PM
If I had to choose between Sammy Sosa or Chris Denorfia -- at equal price -- I take Deno.

pedro
01-26-2006, 07:04 PM
I would rather make an OF of Dunn, Griffey and Pena and snag Durazo or Piazza to play 1B (would have gotten Thomas if the A's didn't).


I highly doubt that Piazza is ever going to play much at 1B. he was truly awful there when the Mets tried it a couple of years ago. As bad as anyone I've ever seen play the position.

GAC
01-26-2006, 07:25 PM
Gawd No!!!

WVRed
01-26-2006, 07:43 PM
If Sosa did rebound and go back to 50 HR form(BIG IF). Could you imagine a more deadlier lineup

2B-Freel
SS-Lopez
CF-Griffey
RF-Sosa
1B-Dunn
LF-Pena
3B-Encarnacion
C-LaRue/Valentin

At least that would be mine if I were manager.

TOBTTReds
01-26-2006, 07:46 PM
So if the Reds trade Kearns, what about putting up an incentive laden contract to put Sammy Sosa in the Reds' RF?

Are you in los angeles? or la la land? sorry couldn't resist. A contract of 500,000 plus incentives I would give. What an atrocious OF though. We would have to play 4 OF'ers at one time and put rich (amazing range ;)) and felipe in the IF.

chicoruiz
01-26-2006, 08:14 PM
Giving a contract to Sammy would be like paying the check for a meal the Cubs ate.

bucksfan
01-26-2006, 09:30 PM
Sammy Sosa would not interest me in the least. I don't really even know what he can actually DO on the baseball diamond anymore, let alone pay him to find out.

bucksfan
01-26-2006, 09:31 PM
I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with Sammy Sosa.


But if there was only one rear end and both Paris Hilton and Sammy were lying there....??????

red-in-la
01-26-2006, 09:34 PM
In fact I'd pay to NOT see both those guys on the same team.

Sammy's done. Stick a fork in him. BTW- Washington is in the NL.

I know that pedro, but Sammy played for the AL Baltimore Orioles last season.

Topcat
01-26-2006, 09:44 PM
I do not want Sammy even if it only cost Aurillia money.

pedro
01-26-2006, 10:03 PM
I know that pedro, but Sammy played for the AL Baltimore Orioles last season.

color me stupid.

MartyFan
01-26-2006, 11:37 PM
So if the Reds trade Kearns, what about putting up an incentive laden contract to put Sammy Sosa in the Reds' RF?

Uhhh, No...

TeamBoone
01-26-2006, 11:50 PM
What the Reds do not need is another veteran presence.... he's too old and he's too expensive.

And he can't pitch.

WVRedsFan
01-27-2006, 12:01 AM
Well I'm praying they don't trade Kearns for a pitcher who's arm may fall off by July, but if you do, you surely don't bring in a retread like Sammy "off of steroids" Sosa. I'd take my chances with Denorfia first.

I say we package one of those two veteran infielders we just signed, Bergolla (can't spell), Machado, Romano, and most of the bullpen for one pitcher. We lose a lot of dead weight and gain another No. 5 starter. Heck, why mess up what we have. Five of a kind wins in most poker hands. :laugh:

WMR
01-27-2006, 12:04 AM
Even if it was ineffective, it'd be about the funniest thing since Abbott & Costello.

I say bring Sammy on board to play RF. But WMP needs to be in Center for maximum entertainment value.

Or not.

KronoRed
01-27-2006, 01:56 AM
I doubt he'd hit 15 homers.

No way.

RedsBaron
01-27-2006, 06:31 AM
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. And No.

MrCinatit
01-27-2006, 07:01 AM
i would.


for one day, just so we could say we had two 500 HR hitters on the club at the same time.
then put him on the next bus to Hoboken.

or not.

cumberlandreds
01-27-2006, 07:35 AM
No! Sosa is done. I doubt that he could hit over 12 home runs in Little League park much less GAB.

RedFanAlways1966
01-27-2006, 07:37 AM
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. And No.

Add another NO to that!

GAC
01-27-2006, 08:04 AM
If Sosa did rebound and go back to 50 HR form(BIG IF). Could you imagine a more deadlier lineup

2B-Freel
SS-Lopez
CF-Griffey
RF-Sosa
1B-Dunn
LF-Pena
3B-Encarnacion
C-LaRue/Valentin

At least that would be mine if I were manager.

But generating offense is not our problem. It''s preventing it. :D

Besides - I don't think could handle any more "he strikes out too much" threads.

Chip R
01-27-2006, 09:22 AM
And he can't pitch.
That's it right there. Don't be wasting time going after a faded star like Sosa. Spend that time going after pitching.

baseballPAP
01-27-2006, 09:26 AM
Obviously I'm the minority here, but I'd sign Sammy if he could be had for Aurilia type money. If Kearns was dealt that is, if and only if. What are the other alternatives? Matt Stairs or some other retread....or our own retread Womack. If I gotta buy a cheap used tire, I'll at least go for the Good Year instead of the no-name special.

creek14
01-27-2006, 09:49 AM
When I read this title I was hoping it was about Sammy Davis Jr (even though he's dead) and not Sammy Sosa.

Cause I would take a dead Sammy Davis over what's left of Sammy Sosa.

Heath
01-27-2006, 10:04 AM
I don't think anyone has said this, but I vote No.

KronoRed
01-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Sosa is washed up, I'd be Deno would play better given 550 at bats.

pahster
01-27-2006, 10:34 AM
Absolutely not. Dead, dead weight, IMO. Matt Stairs is probably better than Sosa at this point.

reds44
01-27-2006, 12:19 PM
If you could sign Sammy for under a mil. I would do it.

Gainesville Red
01-27-2006, 12:49 PM
If you could get the Cubs or Cards to pay him, I'd let him clean the toilets at GAB.

KronoRed
01-27-2006, 01:22 PM
If you could sign Sammy for under a mil. I would do it.
Why? he's washed up..career over.

Look at Greg Vaughn to see how bad it can get.

reds44
01-27-2006, 01:25 PM
Why? he's washed up..career over.

Look at Greg Vaughn to see how bad it can get.

Why not? He had 1 bad year, if you can get him for cheap (and if you need another outfielder) i might take a chance on him.

bucksfan
01-27-2006, 02:25 PM
If he were, say, 28 and that 1 bad year did not also coincide with crackdown on steriods, then I'd reconsider.

zombie-a-go-go
01-27-2006, 02:55 PM
Hell no.

reds44
01-27-2006, 02:55 PM
Hell no.
:laugh:

Great reaction

red-in-la
01-27-2006, 06:04 PM
Well, we sure have a mixture of opinions on this one......I guess it means you guys just aren't interested.

Well, we'll see how Sammy plays this year.

M2
01-27-2006, 06:10 PM
Well, we sure have a mixture of opinions on this one......I guess it means you guys just aren't interested.

Well, we'll see how Sammy plays this year.

Sammy very well could have himself a bounce back campaign. Thing is, if the Reds bring in an OF it had damn-well better be someone with big range in CF, capable of holding down that position for the next few years.

GAC
01-27-2006, 07:24 PM
If you could sign Sammy for under a mil. I would do it.

We just signed Aurilia and Womack for a heck of alot more. Sammy would never consider it.

TC81190
01-27-2006, 09:17 PM
What I wanna know is, how did Sammy drastically increase his BB rates solely for the 2001 season?

KronoRed
01-28-2006, 02:56 AM
What I wanna know is, how did Sammy drastically increase his BB rates solely for the 2001 season?
Pitchers started walking him, he let them at first..then started getting himself out by swinging at junk.