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Krusty
01-28-2006, 10:26 AM
I have mentioned this guy before and with the Orioles acquiring Kris Benson from the Mets, they might consider trading Bedard in the right deal for an outfielder, which is real weak at the moment.

So is LHP Erik Bedard a pitcher that the Reds should key on in a deal involving Kearns. If not, then what pitcher should they be targeting while revamping the starting rotation?

marcshoe
01-28-2006, 10:38 AM
From what I understand, you're not going to get Bedard without giving up Dunn (and some have said not even then). I'd love to have Bedard, but I don't think Kearns will come close to doing it, and I don't think he's close to being worth Dunn, even if the Reds were looking to trade Dunn (which they shouldn't be.)

I'd definitely say he's the type of pitcher they should be looking for, though. Baltimore seems to be overvaluing him a little.

ochre
01-28-2006, 11:02 AM
Dunn > Bedard.

Bedard's top comp on Baseball reference's similar pitchers section is Dave Williams.

Why did he miss the 2003 season? Is he always hurt? He tanked last season after he came off of the DL.

KronoRed
01-28-2006, 12:00 PM
Don't trade Dunn for maybes...only for sure things.

Kearns works though.

marcshoe
01-28-2006, 01:43 PM
There aren't even a lot of sure things that I'd trade him for.

And if the report is true and the O's wouldn't take less than Dunn for Bedard, cross them off the list and look elsewhere.

pedro
01-28-2006, 11:20 PM
Bedard is ok, but he isn't really not the kind of pitcher the Reds need IMO. I just really don't see much difference between him and Dave Williams to be honest. And the Reds really shouldn't have a rotation that includes Claussen, Williams, and Bedard. That would be insane IMO.

deltachi8
01-29-2006, 12:55 AM
other than them both being lefties, I dont see the comparrison between Williams and Bedard...

pedro
01-29-2006, 04:41 AM
Bedard K's more guys but give up more basehits. I just don't think they are that different. Willams is also slightly worse with the longball.


Bedard (26 yrs old)



SEASON TEAM G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L SV HLD BLSV ERA
2002 Bal 2 0 0 0 1.2 2 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -- 13.50
2004 Bal 27 26 0 0 137.1 149 83 70 13 71 121 6 10 0 0 -- 4.59
2005 Bal 24 24 0 0 142.2 139 66 63 10 57 125 6 8 0 0 -- 4.00
Total -- 53 50 0 0 280.2 290 150 134 23 128 247 12 18 0 0 -- 4.31



Williams



SEASON TEAM G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L SV HLD BLSV ERA
2001 Pit 22 18 0 0 114.0 100 53 47 15 45 57 3 7 0 1 -- 3.71
2002 Pit 9 9 0 0 43.1 38 26 24 9 24 33 2 5 0 0 -- 4.99
2004 Pit 10 6 0 0 39.2 31 21 19 4 13 33 2 3 0 0 -- 4.42
2005 Pit 25 25 1 1 139.2 137 74 68 20 58 88 10 11 0 0 -- 4.41
Total -- 66 58 1 1 335.2 306 174 158 48 140 211 17 26 0 1 -- 4.25

Krusty
01-29-2006, 10:14 AM
If that Kearns for Westbrook deal is still out there on the table, would Castanelli give Kullman the ok to pull the trigger?

KronoRed
01-29-2006, 10:41 AM
Hopefully not.

marcshoe
01-29-2006, 02:32 PM
I can't remember why I liked Bedard the last time his name was brought up. The numbers don't look terribly promising.

LINEDRIVER
01-29-2006, 11:26 PM
New Orioles' pitching coach Leo Mazzone may turn Bedard into the next Tom Glavine.

SteelSD
01-29-2006, 11:36 PM
I can't remember why I liked Bedard the last time his name was brought up. The numbers don't look terribly promising.

Might be this:

Erik Bedard Minor League Numbers:

233.0 IP
7.15 H/9IP
3.28 BB/9IP
10.31 K/9IP
0.19 HR/9IP

His MLB K rate has been excellent (7.95 K/9IP), his HR rate solid (0.74 HR/9IP). Bedard's issue last season was that he'd get into spots where he'd suddenly lose command, walk a batter or two, and give up the big Inning. But that wasn't as big an issue as it was in 2004 and he significantly decreased his BB rate.

Bedard's got the goods to be a long-term front-line MLB starter. If he's at all available and healthy (the caveat), I'd try to move him on in pronto.

MattyHo4Life
01-30-2006, 12:24 AM
I'm pretty sure he was mentioned in some trade rumors with the Phillies regarding Abreu. However, there is a big difference between Abreu and Kearns. If Bedard is available, it will take more than Kearns to get him.

marcshoe
01-30-2006, 08:35 AM
I likely was looking at the minor league numbers.