PDA

View Full Version : Who is the worst Reds manager since 1980?



max venable
01-30-2006, 03:05 PM
The list of poor managers, IMO, is long and distinguished. Who do you nominate?

My 2 cents:

Bob Boone
Ray Knight
Russ Nixon
Vern Rapp
Pete Rose (?)

top6
01-30-2006, 03:08 PM
Well, only one of those guys was illegally placing bets on the team while managing them, risking both the success of his team and the integrity of the game itself in order to cater to an out of control gambling addiction. Still, Bob Boone was clearly the worst, and it's not even close.

westofyou
01-30-2006, 03:09 PM
Dave Miley
Vern Rapp
Ray Knight
Bob Boone
John McNamera

Chip R
01-30-2006, 03:13 PM
As Raymond in Rainman would say, "V-E-R-N".

Bob Borkowski
01-30-2006, 03:29 PM
Bob Boone

M2
01-30-2006, 03:38 PM
Russ Nixon
Dave Miley
Ray Knight

ED44
01-30-2006, 03:44 PM
Boone was the worst and most annoying to me.

Doc. Scott
01-30-2006, 03:46 PM
Easily Bob Boone. Ray Knight is up there, but at least Knight was a competitive guy who hated losing.

Obviously Nixon and Rapp weren't very good, but the teams they had were pretty bad, too. Plus, it's hard to tell how decent someone is after just one year. Or 44 games, for that matter.

RedsBaron
01-30-2006, 03:48 PM
Boone

redsfanmia
01-30-2006, 03:54 PM
Knight, atleast Boone was a nice guy.

John McGwire
01-30-2006, 03:54 PM
Rapp,Knight,Miley,Boone,Helmes,
Narrron, in that order.

Strikes Out Looking
01-30-2006, 04:01 PM
It pains to me to even think about it. I'd say Boone, Rapp and Rose, but none of the managers mentioned above were very good.

markymark69
01-30-2006, 04:11 PM
Vern Rapp (in way over his head)
Dave Miley (Casey in the three hole, also did not handle pitching staff well)
Russ Nixon (just bad)
Bob Boone (Adam Dunn --- leadoff)

John McGwire
01-30-2006, 04:16 PM
It pains to me to even think about it. I'd say Boone, Rapp and Rose, but none of the managers mentioned above were very good.
Wasn't Pete in 2nd in '85,86,87,and '88? If the wildcard was in effect back then, they would had made the playoffs a couple of times there with making trades at the deadline and etc

Phil in BG
01-30-2006, 04:36 PM
Wasn't Pete in 2nd in '85,86,87,and '88? If the wildcard was in effect back then, they would had made the playoffs a couple of times there with making trades at the deadline and etc

John, I think the reason Pete's name is mentioned here is because of the gambling...not his managerial record. My worst would have to be Bob Boone.
I actually thought Ray Knight was a good choice at the time....maybe he was too competitive for his own good.

Matt700wlw
01-30-2006, 04:38 PM
Pete helped bring the Reds back around after an awful early start to the 1980s...his teams were also the foundation of the 1990 champs.

I don't know if Pete could have done what Sweet Lou did, but Pete did a decent job before he screwed up his sitution...

Strikes Out Looking
01-30-2006, 04:39 PM
Actually many of the components of Pete's teams won the WS in 1990, so that is why he goes on my list.

KronoRed
01-30-2006, 05:02 PM
Boone

Sit JR after he hits 2 homers because of a "kooky" lefty.

Miley

Yeah..it's good to hand jobs to bad players

StillFunkyB
01-30-2006, 05:05 PM
Well since I have been following the Reds I would say:

Boone
Miley

FWIW, Tommy Hume introduced me to Ray and his wife Nancy one night and they both seemed very nice. Granted we only talked for 15 min or so, but he seemed like a purty decent feller.

Heath
01-30-2006, 05:13 PM
I wouldn't cast disperging remarks on ol' Russ Nixon. It wasn't his fault that he got shafted with a sucky team. Shucks, he took a team to a 13 game improvement and got canned. Now that 13 game improvement was from 61 wins to 74. But Vern Rapp/Pete Rose took it down to 70 the next year. Nixon was just one of the West Siders that got to manage the hometown team.

I vote Bob Boone. At least Vern Rapp got Mario Soto.

pedro
01-30-2006, 05:26 PM
Miley.

CySeymour
01-30-2006, 05:32 PM
I wouldn't cast disperging remarks on ol' Russ Nixon. .

I agree. It's hard to tell how good/bad this guy was based basically on one season. It's not like he had anything to work with. Probably the one thing you can fault him on, and all managers did it back then, was riding Soto too hard and wearing his arm out.

Unassisted
01-30-2006, 05:35 PM
Rapp - Those of you who aren't old enough to remember, be glad.
Miley
Knight
Boone
Mac
Nixon

Pete is DQ'ed since he had a winning record, unlike the others.

RFS62
01-30-2006, 05:51 PM
Miley

He went from highly respected and liked by the players to desperate and bumbling.

The way he handled the clubhouse last year was pretty bush.

Hope he's enjoying the chair.

Hap
01-30-2006, 06:29 PM
it's good to hand jobs to bad players


?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??

It's good to do what to bad players????????????????????????

KronoRed
01-30-2006, 06:31 PM
Hand them a job

:dunno:

Tony Cloninger
01-30-2006, 07:13 PM
Manager wise...there is good/bad in Pete's term.

He took over when the kids started coming along...and meshed with vets pretty well in 85/86/87.
Had bad luck to get Soto at the end of his dominance. 4 man rotation for part of 1985 did not help though.


He did abuse Rob Murphy.
He told the GM not to sign Rick Rueschuel (Joey hamilton in body, if not worse...BUT A WAAAY better pitcher) in 1985, so he goes to PITT, then to SF.

He refused to sit himself more in 1986.....he should have been a PH and that is all that year.


Knight is the worst though.
Boone is close 2nd.

reds1869
01-30-2006, 07:49 PM
Bob Boone, with Miley a close second. Both managers managed to stink it up despite having some legitimate talent on the field--not championship caliber, but decent. Most of the others on the list had far lesser players to work with.

MrCinatit
01-30-2006, 08:05 PM
[QUOTE=Hap
It's good to do what to bad players?[/QUOTE]

probably in reference to giving Aurilia the starting shortstop job. then third. then second.
let us also not forget, he also had Junior batting second, and we all know how well THAT worked out.

kbrake
01-30-2006, 08:21 PM
Bob Boone

Big Klu
01-30-2006, 09:17 PM
As much as I disliked Bob Boone as a manager, he was (and still is) a good guy. And as much as I disliked Boone as a manager, the only correct answer to this question is Vern Rapp.

alex trevino
01-30-2006, 11:28 PM
Russ Nixon...giving enough time it would have been Tony Perez

Wheelhouse
01-31-2006, 02:24 PM
Boone. Made me sick to watch him manage.

Hap
01-31-2006, 04:09 PM
Boone. Made me sick to watch him manage.

Make sure you pinch run with Donnie Sadler during the middle innings at least once per game. There is a slight chance that the next batter will hit a bloop single and Donnie can score from first base.

Make sure you put Adam Dunn in the leadoff slot so he has more opportunities to strike out with runners on base.

westofyou
01-31-2006, 04:36 PM
Make sure you put Adam Dunn in the leadoff slot so he has more opportunities to strike out with runners on base.

Dunn in the #1 slot in 2003, good times.... .214/.371/.589/.961 7 HR's 12 RBI;'s and 11 walks and 18 K's.

Looks ok to me, but it's only 56 ab's

bucksfan
01-31-2006, 04:47 PM
1. Boone
1a. Miley
2. Rapp

Those 3 to me stand out above the others, though maybe I didn;t always pay as much attention as I do now. (those were the days...)

alex trevino
01-31-2006, 05:30 PM
This post made me realize how many bad managers we have had over the past 26 years.

I think the worse situation was when Ray Knight was named "Assistant" Manager. That was something from Bizzaro world.