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Playadlc
02-15-2006, 11:17 PM
Announcement is tommorow. Not sure if he is going to finish the year or not.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/seth_davis/02/15/indiana.davis/index.html

Reds4Life
02-16-2006, 12:23 AM
Davis is staying through the end of the year. Gotta figure Steve Alford is the favorite to replace him.

Eddie Sutton also resigned form OK State tonight, his son Sean signed a 5 year deal to take his place.

Playadlc
02-16-2006, 01:11 AM
Andy Katz on SC just said that sources close to Alford indicate that Alford would take the IU job if offered to him, but would not participate in an interview process with other candidates.

Being a Hoosier fan, I wouldn't mind Alford, but I can't imagine what Iowa fans are thinking right about now. Not a good time for this when your team is leading the pack in the Big Ten.

Reds4Life
02-16-2006, 01:25 AM
Andy Katz on SC just said that sources close to Alford indicate that Alford would take the IU job if offered to him, but would not participate in an interview process with other candidates.

Being a Hoosier fan, I wouldn't mind Alford, but I can't imagine what Iowa fans are thinking right about now. Not a good time for this when your team is leading the pack in the Big Ten.

Nothing like Alford starting off with an attitude huh? If he wants to be arrogant about it I hope IU tells him to get lost.

Playadlc
02-16-2006, 01:35 AM
Nothing like Alford starting off with an attitude huh? If he wants to be arrogant about it I hope IU tells him to get lost.

I can kinda understand Alford's perspective here...imagine Alford interviewing for the IU job, not getting it, and then coaching the next season at Iowa with everyone knowing the above. That would be ugly.

On the flip side, it makes no sense whatsoever from the perspective of IU. IU would have to interview nobody and simply offer Alford the job...or...IU could call a bunch of people in for interviews, decide nobody stacks up to Steve, and then call him into town to sign his contract. Neither option seems very likely. Alford isn't a good enough coach to cause IU to blow off the entire search in order to hire him.

guttle11
02-16-2006, 01:45 AM
Dana Altman is the man IU should choose.

Reds4Life
02-16-2006, 01:58 AM
Dana Altman is the man IU should choose.

He's on UC's list, along with Karl Hobbs.

Playadlc
02-16-2006, 02:01 AM
I've never understood why Altman hasn't been scooped up.

I wonder if Illinois offered him before they went with Weber?

Buckeye33
02-16-2006, 03:02 AM
All the Indiana message boards are saying Matta would leave OSU for IU if offered. Says it's his dream job.

I can't see that happening at all. OSU actually is a better all around school as far as facilities, alumni, fan base, $$ than IU. No way Matta leaves with Oden, Cook, Conley coming in.

I'd hire Alford if I was IU, even without interviewing.

Revering4Blue
02-16-2006, 03:27 AM
During a Big Ten conference call with the media on Monday, Davis said that he thought Indiana fans would be happier "with one of their own," meaning someone who played for the Hoosiers.

No, Mike.

We'd like to have a coach who accepts responsibility, rather than constantly blaming your players, fans, and uttering absolutely ridiculous drivel to the media.

For the record, I am not a Bob Knight apologist at all.

It was time for him to go, as well. But that is another story.


Alford isn't a good enough coach to cause IU to blow off the entire search in order to hire him.

Exactly.

IMHO, Iowa is in no better shape now than they were under Dr. Tom Davis, who much like Gene Keady, never received the credit he deserved.

I certainly hope that the next I.U coach will be the best available, not merely just "one of their own."

Revering4Blue
02-16-2006, 03:37 AM
Per Foxsports.com.



It's about time Davis left Indiana
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It's about time the Mike Davis era is over.

According to a source close to the situation, the Indiana coach will announce on Thursday that he is stepping down at the end of the season his sixth as the Hoosiers head coach.

Let's be honest. Davis didn't miss Saturday's loss against Iowa because he was sick with the flu. He missed it because he was sick of the criticism. He couldn't handle it any longer.

"I know he wasn't sick against Iowa," said a source close to the Indiana program. "He just didn't show up."

It was only a matter of time before Davis and Indiana parted ways. It was never a good marriage and the divorce is finally here.

"I just think Indiana needs to have one of their own," Davis said earlier this week. "They need to have someone that has played here, so they can embrace him. And they need that. I'm not upset about it, I'm not disappointed. I just think they need that."

Mike Davis will announce soon that he will resign as Indiana coach after the season ends. (Darron Cummings / Associated Press)

Hoosiers fans would welcome back legend Steve Alford. They'd probably take Bobby Knight back in a heartbeat. Dan Dakich, Randy Wittman or even Jim Crews would be welcomed with open arms.

They'd probably even be all right with Uwe Blab at this point.

Davis never really endeared himself to those in Bloomington despite one of the most successful rookie campaigns ever and the best three-year start in Indiana history. He trashed Tom Coverdale, George Leach and the rest of the overachieving seniors right after being knocked out of the NCAA tournament in Boston a few years back.

He didn't even attempt to recruit Lawrence North (Ind.) standout Greg Oden the best player in the land.

Davis convinced Cem Dinc, a 6-foot-10, 250-pound import who was ready to go to prep school, to come to Indiana on the premise that he would see extensive time at shooting guard. A 6-foot-10, 250-pound big man? C'mon.

The bottom line is you just can't trust Davis' sincerity.

He took Darryl Pegram, a former player, on the word of a former assistant. Shortly after arriving in Bloomington, Davis realized Pegram wasn't good enough and barely spoke to him. Not only that, he wouldn't meet with Pegram after the forward decided he wanted to transfer out of the program.

He's gone through assistant coaches like some people go through toilet paper. Jim Thomas was basically forced out. Ditto for Ben McDonald. Thad Fitzpatrick departed to become a high school principal.

Davis could have gotten Aaron Gray away from Pittsburgh. Gray's father admitted as much, but Davis never made the call and the 7-footer has become one of the nation's top big men.

Juan Palacios was ready to commit to Indiana, but Davis abruptly stopped recruiting him. "One day he's saying he's the next Jared Jeffries and the next he stops calling," a source close to Palacios said. "Palacios wanted to go to Indiana. It wouldn't have taken much." But through all of the misses, this year's edition in Bloomington started off 10-2. The Hoosiers were a fixture in the Top 25 and climbed as high as No. 9 at one point. Davis' job appeared to be safe.

Then came the team's recent slide in which the Hoosiers, now 13-9 and 5-6 in Big Ten play, have lost six of their last seven including the setback to Iowa in which Davis never even took the court and gave it the old "college try" to coach his team.

You know. The game where he was too "sick" to coach.

Davis looked safe with his core of Marco Killingsworth, D.J. White and Robert Vaden, even after the last two seasons in which the Hoosiers finished 29-29 and watched the NCAA tournament on television.

But now he's losing games the most recent a setback to Penn State on Wednesday night and also his players.

"Less than half of the team is behind him," said the source. "But the players that matter don't like him."

There's some sympathy for having to follow in Knight's footsteps, but let's face it: Davis was fortunate to have one of the best college coaching jobs in America for the past six years. His credentials didn't exactly support his hiring. Two years as an assistant at Alabama and three under Knight.

However, Davis led his team to the national title game in 2002 and that quieted his critics. That seems like an eternity ago. Now, Davis has five regular-season games left after Wednesday night's matchup at Penn State. Then comes the Big Ten tournament and either the NCAA tournament or the NIT.

Mercifully, then, it's over.

Chip R
02-16-2006, 10:21 AM
I've never understood why Altman hasn't been scooped up.

I wonder if Illinois offered him before they went with Weber?

From what I hear on the Northern Iowa message board, Dana's got it pretty good at Creighton. New arena, money, prestige. They treat him like a king there. Most UNI fans are hoping that Iowa snatches him up if Alford goes back to IU. Our coach, Greg McDermott, may be considered for the Iowa job if Alford goes and no UNI fan wants that.

Altman's done a hell of a job this year at Creighton. He lost his best player, Nate Funk, early in the season to an injury and they are right at the top of the Missouri Valley Conference.

Hoosier Red
02-16-2006, 10:25 AM
I am in the Say no to Alford camp.

Cast the net wide, find the best guy.
Perhaps a coach who used to coach about 3 hours east by SR 46 to I-74?
I've been telling everyone at the office to grab Huggins or Kennedy, but no one will listen.

SunDeck
02-16-2006, 10:41 AM
I am in the Say no to Alford camp.

Cast the net wide, find the best guy.
Perhaps a coach who used to coach about 3 hours east by SR 46 to I-74?
I've been telling everyone at the office to grab Huggins or Kennedy, but no one will listen.

I may be one of the only alumni who isn't crying about his firing, but I really just never thought he was such a great coach. He built strong, defensive, athletic, but one dimensional teams. Huggs had many, many upsides, but he has never struck me as a finisher.

But, speaking of Huggs, how about trying to get the guy who gave him fits to come to Bloomington. Bobby Lutz is ready for prime time, if you ask me.


No, Mike.

We'd like to have a coach who accepts responsibility, rather than constantly blaming your players, fans, and uttering absolutely ridiculous drivel to the media.

For the record, I am not a Bob Knight apologist at all.



Good thing, because that's basically the way Knight acted, too. ;)

SunDeck
02-16-2006, 10:41 AM
Oh, I should add that here in Bloomington the mood is, um...kind of ecstatic.

CrackerJack
02-16-2006, 10:44 AM
Huggins at Indiana? = Bob Knight II - The Sequel ;) (w/o the championships or longevity or clean cut, smart kids)

I like Huggins and respect him as a long time UC fan - but not sure he'd be the right type of coach for IU.

Kennedy? That's another story.

Oh yeah Sutton didn't resign technically - is just going to rehab and will return apparently when he's done with that.

Wonder what the deal is with drinking and basketball coaches these days? That's a hard drinkin' bunch.

Blimpie
02-16-2006, 02:04 PM
Not that UK fans are in any position to snicker at the moment...but I rather enjoyed witnessing the paranoid schizophrenic meltdowns by Mike Davis each and every December after they played Kentucky.

Of course, after the two teams played this year, it was Tubby Smith who wanted to curl up in a all and cry.

dsmith421
02-16-2006, 02:51 PM
I've never understood why Altman hasn't been scooped up.

I wonder if Illinois offered him before they went with Weber?

Altman is like Mark Few--they both seem to be very happy with their current situation and don't entertain 'big school' offers.

Given that Altman is building Gonzaga East in Omaha and has turned down higher profile gigs in the past, I see no indication that he would take the Cincinnati or Indiana jobs.

Karl Hobbs would be a great hire for UC, however, I know some legitimate UConn insiders who are convinced he'll be the next coach there when Calhoun retires and I can't see him going to another Big East school in the interim.

Heath
02-16-2006, 02:58 PM
I'm sure that thing called a contract with Matta & Ohio State until 2011 is a small problem.

Chip R
02-16-2006, 03:02 PM
I think it would be tough for a coach to go from one conference team to another. It may happen in the lower level conferences but I think even Indiana fans would be totally OK for Alford to come over straight from Iowa. Even Steve Spurrier stopped off in the NFL when he went from Florida to South Carolina. Can anyone remember the last college football or basketball coach to go straight from one school to another in the same conference? Was Arkansas in the SEC or SWC when Eddie Sutton went to Kentucky cause he's the only one I can think of.

Blimpie
02-16-2006, 03:08 PM
I think it would be tough for a coach to go from one conference team to another. It may happen in the lower level conferences but I think even Indiana fans would be totally OK for Alford to come over straight from Iowa. Even Steve Spurrier stopped off in the NFL when he went from Florida to South Carolina. Can anyone remember the last college football or basketball coach to go straight from one school to another in the same conference? Was Arkansas in the SEC or SWC when Eddie Sutton went to Kentucky cause he's the only one I can think of.Arkansas was not yet in the SEC when Sutton left to coach Kentucky. However, Tubby Smith would qualify for your trivia question as he coached at Georgia the two years prior to coming to Kentucky. Just like Spurrier, it was not only the same conference--but the same DIVISION....although Spurrier DID at least detour through the NFL.

Chip R
02-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Arkansas was not yet in the SEC when Sutton left to coach Kentucky. However, Tubby Smith would qualify for your trivia question as he coached at Georgia the two years prior to coming to Kentucky. Just like Spurrier, it was not only the same conference--but the same DIVISION....although Spurrier DID at least detour through the NFL.

Ah, I forgot about Tubby. Still a very rare thing though.

cumberlandreds
02-16-2006, 03:48 PM
I think it would be tough for a coach to go from one conference team to another. It may happen in the lower level conferences but I think even Indiana fans would be totally OK for Alford to come over straight from Iowa. Even Steve Spurrier stopped off in the NFL when he went from Florida to South Carolina. Can anyone remember the last college football or basketball coach to go straight from one school to another in the same conference? Was Arkansas in the SEC or SWC when Eddie Sutton went to Kentucky cause he's the only one I can think of.

This has been a while back but CM Newton left Alabama and went to Vanderbilt. Then he left Vanderbilt to become UK's Athletic Director. So he did a kinda three way jump.

WVRed
02-16-2006, 04:03 PM
It has happened with players too. LSU's Ross Neltner(formerly of Ft Thomas Highlands) transferred to Vanderbilt.

Matta would have to be committed to an institution to take the Indiana job with what he has coming in. It is wishful thinking for the most part by the IU faithful.

It will be Alford. With the UC opening and now this, its going to be a very interesting month after March Madness.

traderumor
02-16-2006, 04:12 PM
All the Indiana message boards are saying Matta would leave OSU for IU if offered. Says it's his dream job.

I can't see that happening at all. OSU actually is a better all around school as far as facilities, alumni, fan base, $$ than IU. No way Matta leaves with Oden, Cook, Conley coming in.

I'd hire Alford if I was IU, even without interviewing.In their dreams. Yea, Matta is going to have a classic recruiting class coming in and jump ship to go to IU. That's almost as arrogant as Buckeye fans who thinks everyone would want to coach OSU football.

max venable
02-16-2006, 04:13 PM
I'm sure that thing called a contract with Matta & Ohio State until 2011 is a small problem.
Supposedly, Matta has an "out clause" in his OSU contract that would allow him to leave for either the IU or Purdue jobs. This is why Hoosier fans think they have a shot at him.

BTW, here's a link to a poll showing who IU fans want as their new coach:
http://indiana.rivals.com/pollresult.asp?Poll=35907

rdiersin
02-16-2006, 04:18 PM
Yea, they talked about him when things weren't looking too good(and I don't mean his comb over) for Gene Keady. He grew up, I believe in western IN or eastern IL and he had listened to Purdue basketball growing up. Can only imagine it is similar with IU. I don't see it happening, but its more than just IU fans being arrogant. He might have a genuine interest in returning to the great state of Indiana. (Even though I don't want him at IU;))

Chip R
02-16-2006, 04:22 PM
BTW, here's a link to a poll showing who IU fans want as their new coach:
http://indiana.rivals.com/pollresult.asp?Poll=35907

Those are pretty interesting choices on that poll.

Matt700wlw
02-16-2006, 04:23 PM
Huggs!!!

(just kidding)

max venable
02-16-2006, 04:27 PM
Huggs!!!

(just kidding)
Bobby Knight, Part II

Buckeye33
02-16-2006, 04:27 PM
Supposedly, Matta has an "out clause" in his OSU contract that would allow him to leave for either the IU or Purdue jobs. This is why Hoosier fans think they have a shot at him.

BTW, here's a link to a poll showing who IU fans want as their new coach:
http://indiana.rivals.com/pollresult.asp?Poll=35907

The contract has been faxed to an employee of Bucknuts.com (their bball author) and he read it and there is no out clause for any specific school in Mattas contract at OSU.

The contract states that he has from the last day of the season (day after NC game) until April 15th to entertain offers from other school, but must let OSU know in writing that he is actually going to speak with another school.

Also, in the contract there is a significant amount of money that Matta gets if he honors his contract till the end, The writer would not say how much that amount was, but stated it was a very very large amount of money that he would leave on the table if he leaves for another school. He compared it to NBA coaching money.

Here's the link if interested.

http://mb16.scout.com/fohiostatefrm3.showMessage?topicID=9043.topic

max venable
02-16-2006, 04:33 PM
The contract has been faxed to an employee of Bucknuts.com (their bball author) and he read it and there is no out clause for any specific school in Mattas contract at OSU.

The contract states that he has from the last day of the season (day after NC game) until April 15th to entertain offers from other school, but must let OSU know in writing that he is actually going to speak with another school.

Also, in the contract there is a significant amount of money that Matta gets if he honors his contract till the end, The writer would not say how much that amount was, but stated it was a very very large amount of money that he would leave on the table if he leaves for another school. He compared it to NBA coaching money.

Here's the link if interested.
http://mb16.scout.com/fohiostatefrm3.showMessage?topicID=9043.topic
Good info. thanks for that :thumbup:

Reds4Life
02-16-2006, 04:46 PM
Those are pretty interesting choices on that poll.

Also completely unrealistic. The only way Matta leaves OSU is if the NCAA puts post season sanctions on the program and his recruiting class bails, which isn't going to happen. Mark Few is happy at Gonzaga, he's a west coast guy and the chances of him leaving are zero. Tubby? If he leaves UK it will be for the NBA, not another college job. Pitino? :laugh:

The only coach they have a chance with on that list is Alford.

SunDeck
02-16-2006, 04:51 PM
My office is two hundred yards from Nick's. I think I can hear cheering.

traderumor
02-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Pat Knight? :evil:

Blimpie
02-17-2006, 02:43 PM
Larry....Joe.....Bird.

Stranger things have happened, no?

redsfanmia
02-17-2006, 07:49 PM
Larry....Joe.....Bird.

Stranger things have happened, no?
Im sure Kent Benson would scare him away from the job since he is the one who treated him so poorly that he transfered. Could you imagine just how good Larry would have made that team that was 63-1 in two seasons as it was?

Playadlc
02-18-2006, 12:13 AM
In their dreams. Yea, Matta is going to have a classic recruiting class coming in and jump ship to go to IU. That's almost as arrogant as Buckeye fans who thinks everyone would want to coach OSU football.

If rumors weren't flying around that Matta has said IU is his "dream job", if he didn't have ties to the state of Indiana (rumor is he was an avid IU fan as a youngster), his name wouldn't even be coming up.

Honestly, I do believe Matta has some interest in the IU job. Enough interest to leave OSU? I doubt it, but who knows.

Revering4Blue
02-18-2006, 03:43 AM
Jason Whitlock nailed it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060216

Blimpie
02-18-2006, 11:33 AM
Im sure Kent Benson would scare him away from the job since he is the one who treated him so poorly that he transfered. Could you imagine just how good Larry would have made that team that was 63-1 in two seasons as it was?Yeah, but we have knocked down like thirty years since that happened. Grudges are grudges, but he must still have some love for the institution he grew up idolizing...

Blimpie
02-18-2006, 11:39 AM
Jason Whitlock nailed it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060216I agree with you 100% Revering...nice grab!


Thursday, February 16, 2006
IU's Davis has himself to blame

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By Jason Whitlock
Special to Page 2

There's no reason to tiptoe around it, so I won't. Mike Davis' inevitable demise at Indiana University is not a product of my home state's inherent racism. No way.
Indiana University and its fans have treated Mike Davis fairly.


Mike Davis never embraced Indiana, and that's why he wasn't able to ultimately succeed there.
Davis is expected to announce Thursday that he will resign at the end of this season. He totally mismanaged a golden opportunity by throwing a six-year pity party, surrounding himself with butt-kissers and failing to demonstrate leadership by embracing the very people he claims he desperately wanted to embrace him.

Now, in the interest of full disclosure, let me share with you that at one time, I was an ardent Mike Davis supporter and a friend. We've been to each other's homes, met each other's families and friends, and spent countless hours on the phone discussing the politics of his situation at Indiana.

I grew up in Indianapolis, and just like every other Indiana boy, had a healthy respect for Bob Knight's basketball program. Just after college, I worked for a newspaper in Bloomington for one year. Bob Hammel, the sports editor at the paper and Knight's best friend, was one of my early mentors -- along with Andy Graham, Rex Kirts and Lynn Houser.

My point is, I know the territory, the character and the values of the people in the state. It wasn't difficult for me to imagine the obstacles Davis faced in replacing Knight. I shared my insight with Davis until December of 2002. We haven't spoken much since, because Davis was disappointed that I wrote a column criticizing his half-court tantrum at the end of a difficult loss to Kentucky.


Since that time, I've rooted for Davis from afar. And I've winced time and time again as Davis inched closer to bungling a career job by repeatedly making stupid statements because his skin was too thin to handle replacing a legend.
You didn't have to spend much time around Davis, or be a Jesse Jackson supporter, to know he has long believed Indiana fans haven't embraced him, his NBA offense, three straight mediocre seasons and one Final Four season because Hoosiers are uncomfortable with a black man running the house that Bobby Knight built.

Davis has subtly and not so subtly played the race card throughout his six-year tenure at Indiana. And this week, when he proclaimed from his Steve Alford-induced sickbed that Indiana needed one of its own to lead the program, Davis was once again dancing with the issue of race.

On the day that Alford, Indiana's Great White Hope, put a fork in Davis' Indiana coaching career by leading the Iowa Hawkeyes to victory inside Assembly Hall, Davis spent the evening telling a reporter that someone like Alford would be a better fit for the Hoosiers.

Come on, let's not *****foot around. Davis knows quite well that many Hoosiers fans want Alford to replace him. Davis' comments were calculated, designed to create sympathy and paint Indiana fans in an unflattering, redneck light.

Davis went as far as to blame discontented Indiana fans for his players' inability to focus and perform. The Hoosiers, Davis claims, just can't execute at a high level when their coach is being unmercifully crucified by good old boys.

Davis isn't the first coach -- black or white -- to face a hanging tree. And you know what? He's probably not the first to tie his own noose, pick out the tree and kick the chair out from underneath his feet. It just feels like the first time to me, because I've seen it coming from the get-go.

While Davis believes Indiana needs one of its own to lead the Hoosiers, I contend that all Indiana fans want is a coach who passionately wants to be a Hoosier. Period.


Davis spent too much time whining and feeling sorry for himself at IU.
Davis' lack of passion for Indiana is at the crux of his Hoosier Crucifixion. IU fans have never embraced Mike Davis because Mike Davis has never embraced Indiana. You see, regardless of how Bob Knight's Indiana career ended, regardless of what Knight had to say about Davis' succeeding him, loving Indiana basketball begins and ends with loving Bobby Knight.

Davis needed to eat from the forbidden apple (Knight) from the outset and continue eating from the Knight tree to this day, no matter how sour the apples taste. Without Bobby Knight, there is no Mike Davis, and there's certainly no million-dollar-a-year contract.

Instead of playing above Knight's insults and political games (Sean May), Davis thought he could survive by winning early and befriending members of the Indianapolis and national media willing to criticize Knight and champion Davis.

You know what that will get you? Six years, one good contract, a couple of groupie TV anchors and a nice home to hide in when Alford comes to town and your entire fan base wants you fired.

It doesn't even set you up for your next job. Seriously, athletic directors aren't looking for leaders who call in sick when the going gets tough. And unless a job opens in Davis' home state of Alabama, I'm not sure Davis is a good fit anywhere.

Again, this all comes back to Davis' unwillingness to love the one he's with. Jared Jeffries and Tom Coverdale, two Indiana kids, led Davis' 2001-02 team to the national championship game. Yet Davis spent the entire season talking publicly about how much better the Hoosiers would be the following season once Bracey Wright and Marshall Strickland made it to the state of Indiana.

Jeffries, Coverdale, Dane Fife, Jeff Newton, Jarrad Odle, Kyle Hornsby and A.J. Moye -- the core of Davis' best team -- never were properly celebrated by Davis. The following season, Davis turned the team over to Wright, whom Davis described as a "Shaquille O'Neal-type impact player" on my radio show in 2002. (Wright didn't come close to living up to that.)

Shortly after the Final Four run, Davis complained that Indiana's nameless jerseys and candy-stripe warm-up pants hurt his ability to recruit. He might as well have said, "you know, we need to play half our home games in Birmingham."

Davis needed to kill the Knight supporters (and the bigots) with unbridled love of all things Hoosier, even the hokey, old-school traditions. He could cry and ***** at home, but his public statements should've expressed a deep desire to be Indiana's head coach and a willingness to immerse himself in Indiana's unique basketball culture.

Davis chose to speak of his desire to someday coach in the NBA. He told other college coaches that he'd take a pay cut and coach in the South. In public and in private, Davis told people exactly what was on his mind.

It was impossible for Indiana fans to love a coach who so obviously didn't love Indiana. Hoosiers fans are just like you and me. They tend to love people who love them.

Davis' loathing of all things Indiana ruined any chances of his consistently tapping into what has been a very fertile crop of Division I talent in the state the last few years. Davis and his coaching staff failed to do the necessary legwork to build bridges with the Indiana high school and AAU coaches.

Frustrated by his inability to land Bloomington standout and Indiana legacy Sean May, Davis preferred to shop for players down South. He thought Florida's Roderick Wilmont was a better player than Indianapolis' Rodney Carney, who is an All-America candidate at Memphis. Even in landing Indianapolis Pike's Robert Vaden, Davis managed to piss off Vaden's influential coach, Larry Bullington.

Vaden was a Damon Bailey-type legend in Indiana. But Bullington and many Indiana high school coaches felt that Davis steered Vaden toward a prep school his senior season. Vaden's transfer cost Bullington a state championship and damaged Davis' reputation with Indiana's prep coaches.


Question is, where does Mike Davis land next? Who will hire him?
Davis' recruitment of Indianapolis' Greg Oden -- known as the 7-foot LeBron James -- was nearly comical in its execution. Oden, an Ohio State commit, was part of a package deal. He was going to commit to the same school as his point guard teammate, Mike Conley. And Mike Conley was going to commit to the school his father, Mike Conley Sr., felt most comfortable with. Conley Sr., the Olympic triple jumper, coached the boys in AAU basketball.

For Davis, the recruitment of Oden should've been simple: Offer Conley Sr. a job on the Indiana coaching staff. Oden is that good. Oden, Conley Jr. and Conley Sr. form a better package than Danny and Ed Manning. If Conley Sr. didn't want a job, at least convince the father that his son is a critical piece to IU's future.

Instead, Davis was initially lukewarm about recruiting Conley Jr. Davis targeted Chicago point guard Sherron Collins (a Kansas commit), and someone on Davis' staff even managed to send mail intended for Collins to the Conley household.

Indiana never made it on Conley Jr.'s list of schools. Oden listed Indiana as a possibility, as a courtesy. Davis had no shot. He never developed a meaningful relationship with Conley Sr.

Bobby Knight turned Indiana into a powerhouse by stocking his roster with the best talent Indiana, Illinois and Ohio had to offer. Davis tried to win big this year with three mercenaries from the state of Alabama -- D.J. White and Auburn transfers Marco Killingsworth and Lewis Monroe. Killingsworth and Monroe enrolled at Indiana with just one year of eligibility left. White, a sophomore, committed to Indiana with the intentions of turning pro as soon as possible.

Monroe has been a disappointment. White injured his foot. And Killingsworth, who lacks the kind of Indiana-bred basketball savvy of players such as Jeffries, kills Indiana's offense because he doesn't know how to pass out of a double-team.

Are there some IU fans who don't like Davis simply because of the color of his skin? Yes. But that element in no way cost Davis his job. Mike Davis cost himself one of the best jobs in America by wallowing in pity.

Pity provides comfort, but it sure don't pay the bills.

max venable
02-18-2006, 12:49 PM
Plain Dealer article says Matta complimented, not commenting:

http://www.cleveland.com/osubasketball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/114025512169310.xml&coll=2


While brushing aside speculation Friday about the new job opening at Indiana, he also fell short of an "I'm staying" declaration.

MartyFan
02-18-2006, 01:12 PM
As a Buckeye Basketball fan I would be sick if Matta left OSU and especially if he went to Indiana.

dsmith421
02-18-2006, 01:20 PM
As a Buckeye Basketball fan I would be sick if Matta left OSU and especially if he went to Indiana.

And you would know how we Xavier fans felt two summers ago, and Butler fans before that.

Matta is a great coach, but until he lands his 'dream job'--read: Indiana or Purdue--he will always be eyeing greener pastures.

Hoosier Red
02-18-2006, 01:46 PM
I think Matta is a pipedream.
His dream job is in the NBA, he'll be there in three years.