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Doc. Scott
02-16-2006, 06:11 PM
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/2006/02/more-front-office-shuffling.asp

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SARASOTA -- The Reds have a new senior director of scouting, former Blue Jays exec Chris Buckley. In addition to the resume listed on BA, he spent 1989-95 as an area scout and 1996-2000 as a national cross-checker for the Jays. He had been with the Cubs since Jan. 1 this year as a special assistant to the GM. Buckley will oversee all of the Reds' scouting operations, which were essentially split into three units during Dan O'Brien's tenure.

In addition, you may remember a brief item back in December about scouting veteran Andres Reiner joining the Reds' front office as a special assistant to the GM. He and O'Brien were very tight, and obviously he went out the door with Dan -- though I certainly didn't pick up on that before today. I say that because today the Devil Rays hired him as a special assistant.
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Another Friend of O'Brien departs the organization...

traderumor
02-16-2006, 06:18 PM
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/2006/02/more-front-office-shuffling.asp

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SARASOTA -- The Reds have a new senior director of scouting, former Blue Jays exec Chris Buckley. In addition to the resume listed on BA, he spent 1989-95 as an area scout and 1996-2000 as a national cross-checker for the Jays. He had been with the Cubs since Jan. 1 this year as a special assistant to the GM. Buckley will oversee all of the Reds' scouting operations, which were essentially split into three units during Dan O'Brien's tenure.

In addition, you may remember a brief item back in December about scouting veteran Andres Reiner joining the Reds' front office as a special assistant to the GM. He and O'Brien were very tight, and obviously he went out the door with Dan -- though I certainly didn't pick up on that before today. I say that because today the Devil Rays hired him as a special assistant.
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Another Friend of O'Brien departs the organization...
I guess he and TC will cross paths

Team Clark
02-16-2006, 07:19 PM
Yep. Glad to have him aboard

buckeyenut
02-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Yep. Glad to have him aboard
TC, we want Gaitwright. What's it gonna take?

And is TB gonna drop young and upton in the lineup and let them play 160 games without distractions this year, no matter how bad they are? Those guys are both ready for ML but are going to need some development at ML level and some patience to be all they can be.

MikeS21
02-16-2006, 09:42 PM
Yep. Glad to have him aboard
TC, what can you tell us about Buckley? What's his reputation around baseball?

Aronchis
02-16-2006, 09:44 PM
Sounds like this guy is going to be making the draft picks. Krivsky didn't do that with the Twins, I figure he has full delegatory power.

jmcclain19
02-17-2006, 04:53 AM
I actually think Terry Reynolds will still be doing the drafting - although perhaps this new hire Buckley will have a larger say in the draft.

I noticed Reynolds' title says Director of Amateur Scouting now, where I thought before he was just the Director of Scouting(I could be wrong there).

And that the Reds now have an Asst Director of Professional Scouting.

Looks to me like Krivsky will have Buckley beneath him with Reynolds and Arnold both reporting to Buckley? Although I don't have any faith in my correct reconstruction of the new Reds FO Org chart.

Buckley was the Scouting Director from 2001-2003 for the Jays
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/execdb/showperson.php?idx=BucklCh01&fname=Chris&lname=Buckley

If Buckley is the draft guru for the Reds, if anyone is looking for some forshadowing of the 2006 draft, the 01-03 drafts for the Blue Jays were particularly heavy in college players.

2001 Toronto Draft
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/orgs/bluejays01.html
2002 Toronto Draft
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/bluejays02.html
2003 Toronto Draft
http://www.baseballamerica.com/cgi-bin/03draftdbx_team.cgi?team=TOR

lollipopcurve
02-17-2006, 09:12 AM
If Buckley is the draft guru for the Reds, if anyone is looking for some forshadowing of the 2006 draft, the 01-03 drafts for the Blue Jays were particularly heavy in college players.

He did reasonably well in rounds 1-2 (Adams, Bush, McGowan....) but came up empty after that in all three drafts.

Looks to me like he's administrator, overseeing all scouting functions. Reynolds will still manage the draft.

princeton
02-17-2006, 10:00 AM
for years, Jays had a tremendous scouting operation under Tim Wilkens, who then became VP in 2001. My guess is that Buckley was Wilkens' direct choice as successor, although Wilkens remained very involved. Buckley's background sounds very hands-on

Ricciardi is supposedly very heavy-handed in the draft, particularly in the early rounds. Ricciardi therefore was highly influential in the 2002-3 drafts. Wilkens eventually got ticked and left in mid-2003, as did a lot of scouts.

Anything that demotes Terry Reynolds is solid, and this sounds even better than that.

BTW, Wilkens is in the DRays front office, but has been recently linked with the Orioles

Team Clark
02-17-2006, 10:02 AM
for years, Jays had a tremendous scouting operation under Tim Wilkens, who then became VP in 2001. My guess is that Buckley was Wilkens' direct choice as successor, although Wilkens remained very involved. Buckley's background sounds very hands-on

Ricciardi is supposedly very heavy-handed in the draft, particularly in the early rounds. Ricciardi therefore was highly influential in the 2002-3 drafts. Wilkens eventually got ticked and left in mid-2003, as did a lot of scouts.

Anything that demotes Terry Reynolds is solid, and this sounds even better than that.

BTW, Wilkens is in the DRays front office, but has been recently linked with the Orioles

Tim Wilkens is now with the Cubs.

Team Clark
02-17-2006, 10:03 AM
TC, what can you tell us about Buckley? What's his reputation around baseball?

I know very little about Buckley.

Team Clark
02-17-2006, 10:05 AM
TC, we want Gaitwright. What's it gonna take?

And is TB gonna drop young and upton in the lineup and let them play 160 games without distractions this year, no matter how bad they are? Those guys are both ready for ML but are going to need some development at ML level and some patience to be all they can be.

Joey is going to stay put for now. We need to see how Rocco performs after coming off Major surgery.

princeton
02-17-2006, 10:22 AM
Tim Wilkens is now with the Cubs.

Figures, they like to surround themselves with big name scouts-- including Buckley.

In spite of severe financial constraints, Wilkens once nabbbed Roy Halladay, Bill Koch, Vernon Wells, and Felipe Lopez during a four year run of first rounders.

lollipopcurve
02-17-2006, 10:43 AM
Wilkens once nabbbed Roy Halladay, Bill Koch, Vernon Wells, and Felipe Lopez during a four year run of first rounders.

the 3 high schoolers turned out great (they lost patience with Felipe) -- the college arm (one which came without a ligament, literally) sputtered

just sayin'

princeton
02-17-2006, 10:53 AM
the 3 high schoolers turned out great (they lost patience with Felipe) -- the college arm (one which came without a ligament, literally) sputtered

just sayin'

for a modern scout, great is what a player does when he's cheap-- the first 3-4 major league years.

After that, performance is completely to the credit or fault of the the GM, as he's got to decide whether to pay or to deal

lollipopcurve
02-17-2006, 11:03 AM
for a modern scout, great is what a player does when he's cheap-- the first 3-4 major league years.

After that, performance is completely to the credit or fault of the the GM, as he's got to decide whether to pay or to deal

Fair statement. Yet, I don't think it bears a whole lot on the HS vs college draft debate. Given that all players entering pro ball get 6 years in the minors before free agency, your HS player will hit that 3-4 year window in the majors at about 26-27 years old, if he's been promoted one-level-at-a-time. By that time, the organization will know all it needs to know (and the player will not have hit peak, unlike a college player, therefore making the player less expensive to keep, perhaps). The key is that the organization needs to have patience with high schoolers, but patience has gone fishin.

Doc. Scott
02-17-2006, 11:22 AM
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Krivsky continued his front-office restructuring Thursday with another hire, installing Chris Buckley as senior director of scouting.

Despite the catch-all title, Buckley's primary duty will be overseeing the Reds' amateur scouting department. Terry Reynolds, the Reds' director of amateur scouting the past two seasons, will retain his title but report to Buckley.

"After the initial disappointment, Terry's handled it in a class way," Krivsky said. "I just felt like I wanted to tap into Chris and his network. Terry's been great, and he and Chris are going to work well together."

Buckley joined the Chicago Cubs as a special assistant to the GM this January, but prior to that he spent nearly two decades in scouting with the Toronto Blue Jays. Starting as an area scout in 1989, Buckley moved up the ranks and became scouting director for Toronto in 2000. He was a special assistant to the GM in Toronto the past two seasons.

"To me, he's got an innate ability to pick 'em and real good instincts about scouting," Krivsky said of Buckley.
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From Money Marc's Post article this morning.

It sounds like M2 and Princeton will be getting their wish- Terry Reynolds edging towards the door.

gonelong
02-17-2006, 11:25 AM
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Terry Reynolds, the Reds' director of amateur scouting the past two seasons, will retain his title but report to Buckley.


Hu-frickin-rray!!!!!

GL

RFS62
02-17-2006, 11:33 AM
It sounds like M2 and Princeton will be getting their wish- Terry Reynolds edging towards the door.


Lot's of people with that wish, myself included.

KronoRed
02-17-2006, 11:57 AM
Slowly the ax falls.

princeton
02-17-2006, 01:17 PM
we don't just get a guy, we also get a whole network?

it's like that commercial-- Reynolds is the guy with the dinky network, while hopefully this guy has the BIG network

princeton
02-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Lot's of people with that wish, myself included.

the bus I'm driving has room for a lot of passengers. Exact change, please.

lollipopcurve
02-17-2006, 02:50 PM
Buckley's drafts (Toronto, 2001-2003) have been college-heavy. Selections in rounds 1 and 2 have been very solid. He's come up dry in rounds 3 and beyond.