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reds44
02-17-2006, 02:56 PM
Ankiel Available?
Rick Ankiel is attempting to make the Cardinals as an outfielder. The intriguing thing is, St. Louis has to put him on waviers if he doesn't make the team:

With Jim Edmonds and former Marlin Juan Encarnacion set in center and right field and a trio of candidates for the left-field job, Ankiel's chances of making the big-league team are remote. Landing in Class AAA Memphis would be progress.
But even that will be tricky. Having exhausted his options, Ankiel must pass through waivers if he does not make the Cardinals. Ankiel could have been claimed for $50,000 had the Cardinals not placed him on the 40-man roster. They now have until March 11 to sign him for the season.


I suspect a number of teams will be watching Rick this spring. There someone out there who could use an outfielder with a great arm in his prime.

http://baseballmusings.com

Would you take him?

KearnsyEars
02-17-2006, 03:12 PM
I'd take him only if he could remember how to pitch and only if he'd be willing to try it again.

flyer85
02-17-2006, 03:19 PM
I'd take him only if he could remember how to pitch and only if he'd be willing to try it again.he will never be anything special as an OF. At some point he will turn back to pitching again.

KronoRed
02-17-2006, 03:21 PM
Nope, he's an OF and we don't need them.

princeton
02-17-2006, 03:44 PM
nah, he'd just hold back one of our many talented young players

buckeyenut
02-17-2006, 04:35 PM
Actually, I would claim him. I believe he has upside and outside Deneforia we have no depth in OF outside our top level. Would give you a guy with a little upside if you did trade Jr, Pena or Kearns for pitching.

Anyone know how his arm is for OF? Is he accurate on throws?

max venable
02-17-2006, 05:14 PM
No thanks...I'll pass.

Chip R
02-17-2006, 05:17 PM
It'd be tempting to claim him just to make LaRussa mad.

reds44
02-17-2006, 05:19 PM
Pena, JR., and Kearns have all struggled with injuries in the past, we could use more depth.

Chip R
02-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Pena, JR., and Kearns have all struggled with injuries in the past, we could use more depth.

We definitely could but if we want to keep Ankiel, we'd have to keep him on the big club just like Wily Mo. I don't know if I want to take a chance that he can play on a big league level as a backup OFer.

reds44
02-17-2006, 05:25 PM
We definitely could but if we want to keep Ankiel, we'd have to keep him on the big club just like Wily Mo. I don't know if I want to take a chance that he can play on a big league level as a backup OFer.
This is true.

Valid point.

Spitball
02-17-2006, 07:13 PM
Does anyone else remember when Red Auerbach drafted Danny Ainge despite his vow that he was going to stick with baseball as a Toronto Blue Jay rather than play basketball? Everyone thought the Celtics had wasted a draft pick on a guy who had firmly stated his intentions. Well, Auerbach may have played a hunch or figured out Ainge would never learn to hit the curve because he ended up with a key component to a few championship teams. I believe an athlete might change his mind if he sees a dream slipping away.

I'd take Ankiel and wait to see what happens. It would be fun to have a left handed pitcher (lefty specialist) in left field who could flip flop with a right handed pitcher when a tough lefty batter comes up and a K is badly needed. It would be even nicer to see the kid go nine against the Cards.

BTW, anyone remember Wayne Granger going to left field while Dave Bristol (I believe) brought in a lefty to face a lefty batter?

westofyou
02-17-2006, 07:36 PM
Rick Ankiel is our generations Von McDaniel.

KronoRed
02-17-2006, 07:48 PM
Pena, JR., and Kearns have all struggled with injuries in the past, we could use more depth.
I'd rather find a guy who has hit in the majors before

buckeyenut
02-18-2006, 06:30 AM
I'd rather find a guy who has hit in the majors beforeI understand, but you aren't going to get a shot at a guy like that for next to free. Ankiel, you may have a shot at for the price of a waiver claim and a roster spot.

I mean, what does it hurt if he takes the spot of Jacob Cruz or Chris Denorfia coming out of spring training? If he doesn't work, you can waive him later and bring one of those guys up.

oneupper
02-18-2006, 09:45 AM
I understand, but you aren't going to get a shot at a guy like that for next to free. Ankiel, you may have a shot at for the price of a waiver claim and a roster spot.

I mean, what does it hurt if he takes the spot of Jacob Cruz or Chris Denorfia coming out of spring training? If he doesn't work, you can waive him later and bring one of those guys up.

As much as we discuss players and how they fit here or there, we have to remember that they are people, not spare parts of machinery.

This guy is trying to salvage his baseball career. Leave him alone.

KronoRed
02-18-2006, 01:00 PM
After the Wily Mo fiasco (yes it was a fiasco having him turn us into a 24 man team for 1 year) I'm not in favor of just punting on a bench slot.

buckeyenut
02-18-2006, 01:25 PM
As much as we discuss players and how they fit here or there, we have to remember that they are people, not spare parts of machinery.

This guy is trying to salvage his baseball career. Leave him alone.

You have to be kidding me, right? This is a business. This is our biggest division rival. They are playing for the World Series and might have to waive the guy. He is a valuable prospect and we have a need. He is going to get as much or more playing time here as he would in STL. How is this hurting the guy, other than making him move?

If I'm Krivsky, I am not going to stop trying to improve my team in any way possible just because he feels good about the Cardinals organization.

princeton
02-18-2006, 01:26 PM
After the Wily Mo fiasco (yes it was a fiasco having him turn us into a 24 man team for 1 year) I'm not in favor of just punting on a bench slot.

if anything was not a fiasco, it was Wily Mo

if any team can punt on a bench slot, or even several bench spots, in favor of a prospect, it's a bad team

should he become good, then by the time he's good, he'll be arbitration eligible and won't fit a small market team. But you can always trade him.

lollipopcurve
02-19-2006, 11:11 AM
should he become good, then by the time he's good, he'll be arbitration eligible and won't fit a small market team

Small market teams give out sizable LTCs to certain players, but they have to be judicious about who those players are.