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TOBTTReds
02-19-2006, 07:14 PM
Per Marc


Hatcher gets the call

SARASOTA -- From talking with Jerry Narron around noon today, I got the feeling Billy Hatcher was the choice for the first base coaching job. And now it's official. Hatcher replaces John Moses, who resigned last week, and is expected to be in uniform tomorrow.

The former Reds outfielder spent the last eight seasons on the Devil Rays' staff, including stints as the first base coach (1998-99, 2003-05), third base coach (2000) and bench coach (2001-02). Before that, Hatcher spent two seasons with Tampa Bay as a minor league instructor.

Raisor
02-19-2006, 07:24 PM
While he's a former Red, at least he's been in another organization for awhile, even if it's the Rays.

Sorta new blood

reds44
02-19-2006, 07:34 PM
Marc's blog



SARASOTA -- From talking with Jerry Narron around noon today, I got the feeling Billy Hatcher was the choice for the first base coaching job. And now it's official. Hatcher replaces John Moses, who resigned last week, and is expected to be in uniform tomorrow.

The former Reds outfielder spent the last eight seasons on the Devil Rays' staff, including stints as the first base coach (1998-99, 2003-05), third base coach (2000) and bench coach (2001-02). Before that, Hatcher spent two seasons with Tampa Bay as a minor league instructor.

UPDATE: Jerry gave me a call while waiting for his dinner, and he said the decision was "very difficult" but he was thrilled to have Hatcher in the fold.

"He was an outstanding major league player and he has an outstanding history with the Cincinnati Reds, and thatís all a plus," said Narron. "I just really believe heís a guy thatís going to be a long-term fit for Cincinnati and do a great job for us."

As tough as it was to tell the other four they didn't get the job, said Narron, the saving grace is that all four will still be in the Reds' organization and helping out along the way.

He also noted that the decision was basically his to make. I don't know that he would have had that much freedom under the previous regime...

"One thing Iím very happy about is, Mr. Castellini had the confidence in me to make the decision on my own," said Narron. "I did talk with Wayne extensively about each man, but no one tried to influence the decision in any way."

posted by Marc @ 5:58 PM 0 comments

In case you missed it...

SARASOTA -- Felipe Lopez has decided not to play in the World Baseball Classic. He probably would have been Puerto Rico's starting shortstop, but decided it would be better to stick around Reds camp.

Felipe was among the position players trickling in this weekend. Austin Kearns and Adam Dunn arrived in town Saturday, and Jacob Cruz made his first appearance Sunday.

Other than that, been a pretty slow day...

Reds4Life
02-19-2006, 07:42 PM
Hatcher was the 1st base coach for Lou in 1990, and spent the last few years in Tampa with him too.

Start looking over your shoulder Jerry.

Kc61
02-19-2006, 07:47 PM
Sorry for those who didn't get this job, but I have great memories of Hatcher's role on the 1990 Reds. There was much talk that year about getting a right handed hitting outfielder. Reds picked him up and he was a solid number two hitter and base stealer. Had that great post-season hitting streak. Just a solid, professional player who had a big supporting role on that team.

I know this sounds like Lou is on the horizon, but let's get through this year first. Glad to see Hatcher back with the Reds.

pedro
02-19-2006, 08:09 PM
Hatcher was the 1st base coach for Lou in 1990, and spent the last few years in Tampa with him too.

Start looking over your shoulder Jerry.

Hatcher was the Reds LF in 1990.

Ravenlord
02-19-2006, 08:11 PM
Hatcher was the Reds LF in 1990.
possibly the personal left field coach for Wily Mo?

MartyFan
02-19-2006, 08:25 PM
TeamClark...you hearing anything in Tampa?

KronoRed
02-19-2006, 08:32 PM
Sounds good, he's former Red but not big time former Red..I like it.

Team Clark
02-19-2006, 10:28 PM
TeamClark...you hearing anything in Tampa?


Sorry, missed your post. I look forward to seeing what Hatcher can do with the Reds. Could be a spring board for him to get a Manager's job.

REDREAD
02-19-2006, 10:46 PM
Hatcher was the Reds LF in 1990.

I think he got a lot of time in CF as well.. I thought I remembered Eric Davis playing LF in the playoffs and Hatcher in CF..

Not trying to pick nits.. just trying to jog my own memory.

TOBTTReds
02-19-2006, 11:15 PM
I think he got a lot of time in CF as well.. I thought I remembered Eric Davis playing LF in the playoffs and Hatcher in CF..

Not trying to pick nits.. just trying to jog my own memory.


You are right. ED was in left when his injury occured in game 4 of the WS (I can remember the play like it was yesterday).

Note on Felipe:

I don't mind him staying in ST. This will get him more reps at SS and allow him to work on fundamentals of his defense. Work on lateral movements, and continue work on his throwing.

Big Klu
02-20-2006, 02:58 AM
Billy Hatcher was the "regular" LF, and Eric Davis was the "regular" CF. But whenever Eric wasn't feeling 100% physically, Lou Piniella would flip-flop them, and put Davis in LF and Hatcher in CF. This was the defensive alignment in the 1990 postseason. Hatcher was a capable outfielder both in LF and CF. (He didn't play much--if ever--in RF. I don't know if it was because he didn't have the arm for it, or because the Reds had Paul O'Neill and Glenn Braggs who could handle the position.

BuckU
02-20-2006, 11:00 AM
I think what we all need to be thankful for is that the position didn't go to Sr. Nothing personal against him, but having him in the clubhouse isn't something I was excited about. The only authority figure Jr. needs in the clubhouse is his manager. Having Sr. there seems like a conflict of interest. Like the Boone's were.

In addition, Sr. was a coach during the days of sucking, which are hopefully over. Not that Hatcher's Rays were tearing it up, but its new blood, not recycled blood.

Blimpie
02-20-2006, 11:40 AM
I was actually quite hoping that Senior would get the 1B coaching job. The current players that know him all seem to respect and admire him. Forget what the Reds did as a team when he was a coach. When he was a player for the Reds, they won rings. As far as Hatcher's presence improving upon team suckitude, I present to you the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

Caseyfan21
02-20-2006, 11:55 AM
As far as Hatcher's presence improving upon team suckitude, I present to you the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

Casey Stengal, Sparky Anderson, (insert favorite HOF manager's name here) could have been a coach of the Devil Rays this year and they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

I don't think our first base coach will make a huge impact on the won/loss record. Any of the candidates could have been hired and the difference will probably be minimal for the overall season won/loss record. The only difference I think will be the in the work with OF'ers, specifically Wily Mo. Time will tell what kind of an impact Hatcher will make there.

Blimpie
02-20-2006, 12:10 PM
Casey Stengal, Sparky Anderson, (insert favorite HOF manager's name here) could have been a coach of the Devil Rays this year and they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

I don't think our first base coach will make a huge impact on the won/loss record. Any of the candidates could have been hired and the difference will probably be minimal for the overall season won/loss record. The only difference I think will be the in the work with OF'ers, specifically Wily Mo. Time will tell what kind of an impact Hatcher will make there.That was pretty much my point. If all the 1B coach does is give out the pitcher's time to the plate then you are not going to see a big bump in wins from that coach.

I just don't really think people should say that Senior shouldn't be the choice because the last time he coached, the Reds stunk (much like they do to this day). When one says that, then they have to acknowledge Hatcher's eight year tenure with the Devil Rays. Senior would have a positive effect on the players that drive the team. Further, I know that he is Junior's official swing doctor. It always makes me feel good to have him around the clubhouse for that reason.

I have no axe to grind against Billy Hatcher. He was a great contibutor to the 1990 team--especially in the World Series. But, at the end of the day, he will still always be a Houston Astro to me. Hatcher is no Griffey Senior. Period.

KronoRed
02-20-2006, 12:17 PM
He's not a "big time former Red" that's why I like it..I get so tired of the recycled coaches/players the Reds seem to live on "well we were good when he played lets hire him as a coach", "well we were good when he was the broadcaster lets keep him around", "Well we were good the last time he managed so lets hire him"

Maybe SR would be a great presence, I dunno, but I just want new blood around the team, even if it's D-ray blood ;)

BuckU
02-20-2006, 12:44 PM
I just don't really think people should say that Senior shouldn't be the choice because the last time he coached, the Reds stunk (much like they do to this day). When one says that, then they have to acknowledge Hatcher's eight year tenure with the Devil Rays. Senior would have a positive effect on the players that drive the team. Further, I know that he is Junior's official swing doctor. It always makes me feel good to have him around the clubhouse for that reason.

I like Sr., I really do. Jr seems to have more fun while he's around and maybe that's the problem. Sr. wasn't in the clubhouse last year and Jr's swing was just fine. Let the swing doctor practice his medicine from afar.

Those were the same Devil Rays that were managed by Lou Pinella, the same manager that everybody wants here in '07. I don't think it's fair to judge Hatcher (or Pinella for that matter) based on their record in Tampa. As it was mentioned before, it would have been tough for anybody to build a winner there (especially with LaMar)

....after all this is just the 1st base coach ;)

Matt700wlw
02-20-2006, 05:07 PM
Hatcher was the 1st base coach for Lou in 1990, and spent the last few years in Tampa with him too.

Start looking over your shoulder Jerry.

I was thinking the same thing.....Lou's people are being put into place...perhaps.

Blimpie
02-20-2006, 06:08 PM
I like Sr., I really do. Jr seems to have more fun while he's around and maybe that's the problem. Sr. wasn't in the clubhouse last year and Jr's swing was just fine. Let the swing doctor practice his medicine from afar.

Those were the same Devil Rays that were managed by Lou Pinella, the same manager that everybody wants here in '07. I don't think it's fair to judge Hatcher (or Pinella for that matter) based on their record in Tampa. As it was mentioned before, it would have been tough for anybody to build a winner there (especially with LaMar)

....after all this is just the 1st base coach ;)I'm not 100% in the Lou camp just yet. I would like to see which managers are available for 2007 before saying one way or another...