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max venable
02-26-2006, 10:02 PM
I'll nominate the Buckeyes tandem of Tressel and Matta.

Tressel seems to have his team finish in the top 5 every year, he owns Michigan (4-1) and he's sellar in bowl games (4-1). Oh, and did I mention that he won a 1-A national championship.

Matta...the dude's a wizard. He can flat coach (21-4, 1st place in the Big Ten, #5 in the RPI...with a team that wasn't even ranked at the beginning of the year. Oh, and he can recruit, too! Matta should be the national coach of the year.

I really can't think of another tandem that measures up to this one. Your nominations, please...

reds1869
02-26-2006, 10:23 PM
I have to agree with you on this one. There are schools with better coaches in each sport, but very few that approach the overall level of Matta and Tressel. Florida is one that pops to mind with Billy Donovan and Urban Meyer.

Gainesville Red
02-26-2006, 10:43 PM
Florida, Donovan-Meyer
Oklahoma, Sampson-Stoops
Texas, Brown-Barnes

Revering4Blue
02-28-2006, 02:47 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/matt-hayes/blog/



Top NCAA hardwood-gridiron combos
Thursday, February 9, 2006, 9:01 p.m. ET

Since we're in the heart of the NCAA basketball season, here are my top 5 football/basketball programs:

1. Texas: Throw baseball in the mix, and the gulf between the rest widens. Mack Brown finally got his national title this fall; does Rick Barnes get his this spring?

2. Florida: Urban Meyer nearly underachieved before beating Florida State and Iowa to finish the season. Billy Donovan's group has overachieved all season and should get out of the first weekend of the NCAAs for the first time since 2000.

3. Ohio State: Once Thad Matta gets his players in Columbus (next year's recruiting class), this coaching duo could rocket to the top. Jim Tressel is proving to be a fantastic big-game coach.

4. Oklahoma: Bob Stoops, Kelvin Sampson. Two of the nation's best motivators, two of the best game day coaches. This duo dropped from the top spot over the last two years.

5. UCLA: I've been saying this from Day 1 (while every USC fan says I'm an idiot): Karl Dorrell is going to win the Pac-10 at UCLA -- sooner rather than later. Ben Howland still needs one more big recruiting class before the Bruins are a Final Four team.

Four on the rise

West Virginia: Are there two coaches doing more with less than Rich Rodriguez and John Beilein?

Arizona: Lute Olson can flat out coach and recruit. Mike Stoops is two years from his team competing for the Pac-10 title.

Georgia: Mark Richt has won two SEC titles in five years, and Dennis Felton is on the verge of finding a way to the NCAA tournament with a ragtag bunch.

Louisville: If Bob Petrino ever reaches the success of Rick Pitino, this duo finds a permanent spot in the top five.

OnBaseMachine
02-28-2006, 08:18 AM
Karl Dorrell?!? :laugh: :laugh:

He is one of the worst coaches I've seen. He had a lucky 10-2 season in 2005, other than that he has had average teams with decent talent.

I'll nominate Pete Carroll and Tim Floyd. Pete Carroll is the best coach in college football, and Tim Floyd has the Trojan basketball team sitting at 17-10(with wins over Arizona, North Carolina, UCLA, and Stanford) in his first year after inheriting a 12-17 team from last year. Oh, btw, USC returned only four scholarship players this year. :eek:

As much as I despise Tressell, I really like Matta. He will win multiple National Championships at OSU...

max venable
02-28-2006, 09:02 AM
I think the Carroll-Floyd combination at USC is a good one but not as good as the Tressel-Matta combo.

BTW, why the dislike of Tressel?

Cedric
02-28-2006, 09:31 AM
Tressel is the man. Anyone that professes things that Tressel does is gonna be a target by others. People don't like someone that open and geniune. They tried to tear him down already, failed.

RedsManRick
02-28-2006, 11:14 AM
Though Alvarez just retired from coaching, Bo Ryan and Barry Alvarez were a very solid pair at Wisconsin.

max venable
02-28-2006, 12:33 PM
:barf:
Though Alvarez just retired from coaching, Bo Ryan and Barry Alvarez were a very solid pair at Wisconsin.
Sorry. I can't stand Alvarez.

OnBaseMachine
02-28-2006, 05:59 PM
BTW, why the dislike of Tressel?

I hate his conservative coaching style, the rumor of Youngstown State being in trouble during his tenure there, and a couple other things he did. Remember the football player Sammy the Bull? The story he told on Tressell really turned me against him.

ochre
02-28-2006, 06:17 PM
I hate his conservative coaching style, the rumor of Youngstown State being in trouble during his tenure there, and a couple other things he did. Remember the football player Sammy the Bull? The story he told on Tressell really turned me against him.
Maldanado?

The prima dona that ran foul of Fridgen at Maryland too and barely played if at all?

He was straight up sour grapes bro.

I'm pretty sure that the YSU stuff was pretty heavily investigated. Not saying you are wrong for having suspicions in that regard. I'm an OSU fan and his conservative style has frustrated me greatly. His record in big games is compelling for me though. As long as he doesn't keep 'conserving' his way into lesser big games he'll be ok.

max venable
02-28-2006, 06:28 PM
I hate his conservative coaching style, the rumor of Youngstown State being in trouble during his tenure there, and a couple other things he did. Remember the football player Sammy the Bull? The story he told on Tressell really turned me against him.
Rumors? Rumors? Oh...and a couple of other things...okay makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up. I can see why you wouldn't like the guy. :evil:

By the way...for his conservative coaching style, he has the same number of BCS championships as Pete Carroll. Must be working.

OnBaseMachine
02-28-2006, 06:48 PM
Rumors? Rumors? Oh...and a couple of other things...okay makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up. I can see why you wouldn't like the guy. :evil:

By the way...for his conservative coaching style, he has the same number of BCS championships as Pete Carroll. Must be working.

The couple of other things was Sammy the Bull incident and and some of the YSU stuff. I had just read the story on Sammy, and heard the quotes from his family on Tressell. I didn't know that he got ran off from Maryland also. To tell you the truth, I don't how true the stuff about YSU is, but the rumors alone raise a red flag.

And that vest really turns me against the guy too. ;)

Pete has two National Championships and three Heismans in his tenure. Tressel has accomplished some great things (he's a great coach too, as much I hate to admit it) but Pete has did more. IMO, Pete Carroll is the best college football coach in America.

OnBaseMachine
02-28-2006, 07:13 PM
To get back on topic I'll make my own list.

1. Texas
2. Ohio State
3. Oklahoma
4. USC

Florida doesn't reach my top four until Florida wins a NC in either sport under one of the two. I'm still laughing at the guy in the article who included Karl Dorrell.

max venable
02-28-2006, 07:21 PM
Carroll's record at USC: 54-10 Tressel's at OSU: 52-13

Carroll did not win the national championship in 2003. The BCS determines the national champs. Carroll has the same number of BCS titles as Tressel.

Carroll's bowl record at USC is 3-2. Tressel's OSU bowl record is 4-1.

And the vest...It's a fashion statement :thumbup:

WVRed
02-28-2006, 07:27 PM
I'd like to nominate(sadly) WVU.

John Beilein in basketball and Rich Rodriguez in football. Both surpassed modest expectations. WVU isnt a big name program like Ohio St, but they definitely belong in the mix.

OnBaseMachine
02-28-2006, 07:27 PM
Carroll's record at USC: 54-10 Tressel's at OSU: 52-13

Carroll did not win the national championship in 2003. The BCS determines the national champs. Carroll has the same number of BCS titles as Tressel.

Carroll's bowl record at USC is 3-2. Tressel's OSU bowl record is 4-1.

And the vest...It's a fashion statement :thumbup:

The BCS website acknowledges that USC split the National Championship in 2003. It counts as a NC. Pete Carroll has two of them. Pete also has three Heismans. If you ask 10 people which coach they would take, eight would pick Carroll and the two Buckeyes would pick Tressel. ;)

max venable
02-28-2006, 07:31 PM
The BCS website acknowledges that USC split the National Championship in 2003. It counts as a NC. Pete Carroll has two of them. Pete also has three Heismans. If you ask 10 people which coach they would take, eight would pick Carroll and the two Buckeyes would pick Tressel. ;)
Fun debate. Carroll's a GREAT coach. No doubt.

Gotta give you the Heisman thing...VERY impressive. :beerme:

OnBaseMachine
02-28-2006, 07:41 PM
Fun debate. Carroll's a GREAT coach. No doubt.

Gotta give you the Heisman thing...VERY impressive. :beerme:

Thank You. I think Tressell is a great coach, not my favorite style...but a very good coach nonetheless.

I am looking forward to seeing these two storied programs hooking up in 2008 and 2009.

Revering4Blue
03-01-2006, 04:49 AM
I'm still laughing at the guy in the article who included Karl Dorrell.

You're not the only one.:laugh:
And to make matters worse, he lost OC Tom Cable to the NFL.


I'll nominate Pete Carroll and Tim Floyd.

Good call. Looking at this objectively, there is no way that the UCLA duo should be ranked ahead of the USC duo. Heck, I'd rank Boston College-Skinner and O'Brien-ahead of UCLA.

I can't argue with either Texas or Ohio State as #1.


West Virginia: Are there two coaches doing more with less than Rich Rodriguez and John Beilein?


No, but you can certainly present a strong case for Texas Tech's Mike Leach and Bob Knight.

Conversely, the two Michigan coaches are doing the least with the most, IMO.
No offense to fans of the maize and blue.