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Chip R
03-14-2006, 09:27 AM
It appears that some Reds aren't pleased with Wily Mo's decision to "play" in the WBC. From the Enquirer this morning:

QUOTE OF THE DAY

"Way to go, Wily, way to get better for us!"

An unnamed Red as Wily Mo Peña got in the high five line after another "DNP" (did not play) for the Dominican Republic team in the World Baseball Classic

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060314/SPT04/603140390/1071

redsfan30
03-14-2006, 09:38 AM
I feel the same way. If he gets benched because he's just not developing this season it's nobody's fault but his own. He had to know he wasn't going to get much if any playing time as loaded as that team in the Dominican is.

I can't blame him for wanting to play for his country, but he's putting his MLB job in jeopardy.

flyer85
03-14-2006, 09:44 AM
The Braves were worried about that Francouer.

Seems like they may be behind when the season opens.

M2
03-14-2006, 09:53 AM
Just to play devil's advocate, but maybe it's not such a bad thing for Pena to be hanging around with some of the game's best players in a winning atmosphere.

In the event that he's mildly behind after the WBC, he'll still have two weeks to get his timing down before the season starts.

Chip R
03-14-2006, 09:54 AM
The Braves were worried about that Francouer.

Seems like they may be behind when the season opens.

The difference is that Francouer is more of a finished product than Pena. Wily Mo has power, speed and a great arm but he is a defensive liability. At least Francouer is playing instead of sitting on the bench. I think in Wily Mo's case the criticism is valid. There are plenty of players who can keep the Dominican bench warm. If you're playing in the WBC regularly, it isn't a lot different than playing in exhibition games except you don't get the instruction you'd get in ST. I understand there is a certain amount of nationalism that pressures these players to play for their country. But I somehow doubt Wily Mo would be persona non grata in the DR if he decided to spend ST with the Reds.

Heath
03-14-2006, 09:55 AM
Actually, when he's been in there, he has performed. In his limited time he's 3 for 6 and he's walked a couple of times.

I've not read in the same article, the same un-named Red, that Griffey's hurting the team with his absence.

Look at it from Willy Mo's stand point - he might look up to some of those guys. Maybe he's taking extra hitting during practice. Maybe a Papi Ortiz is talking to him, or he's intently watching an Albert Puijois take a professional approach to the game.

I think the WBC could actually help WMP.

Wheelhouse
03-14-2006, 10:00 AM
He had the game-winning hit the other day. Look, Wily didn't know he wasn't going to have a lot of playing time. I think whoever said that is just upset they have to take a lot of PFP day-to-day. People should think when they speak: what POSSIBLE good could come out of saying something like that?

traderumor
03-14-2006, 10:04 AM
I have watched a few of the WBC games and enjoyed the pre-season competition. However, it is a conflict of interest with the money teams have invested in these guys to play in an all-star tournament. I haven't heard of any key injuries, which is good. Still, I'm not sure its fair to the franchises that have these assets under contract.

Chip R
03-14-2006, 10:11 AM
He had the game-winning hit the other day. Look, Wily didn't know he wasn't going to have a lot of playing time. I think whoever said that is just upset they have to take a lot of PFP day-to-day. People should think when they speak: what POSSIBLE good could come out of saying something like that?

It was somewhat gutless to request anonymity for saying something like that but the player has a point. I'm guessing the DR is taking this a little more seriously than the US is. I'm guessing they aren't giving him a lot of instruction on the fine points of playing LF. Now he may be at the point where even if he gets 24/7 instruction on how to play LF it won't even make him adequate out there. But this is the first year that he's going to be a regular and he's spending most of ST gathering splinters. It's his choice but I personally don't think it's a wise move.

BrooklynRedz
03-14-2006, 10:20 AM
This is bunk. Wily Mo spent this offseason playing winter ball, concentrating on his game and his numbers suggest a different approach...as was even noted by Naron. I can't believe anyone would begrudge a young player wanting to live out his dream of playing for his country in a first-of-its-kind tournament. Who knows if he'll get another chance?

deltachi8
03-14-2006, 10:24 AM
I'm with ya, Heath. Annonymous player - get some stones and stand behind your quote or really, its just noise.

KronoRed
03-14-2006, 12:50 PM
Hmm..Hatteberg to 1st and Dunn to left with Wily Mo benched?

;)

Heath
03-14-2006, 12:56 PM
Hmm..Hatteberg to 1st and Dunn to left with Wily Mo benched?

;)


Krono if I didn't know better...I'd steal your Florida hat after those hogwash remarks... ;)

KronoRed
03-14-2006, 12:57 PM
Just channeling Narron :D

Heath
03-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Just channeling Narron :D

Someone better be getting you a mega Sprite when you go to the ST gathering.....Or 15 beers.....

TeamBoone
03-14-2006, 02:30 PM
I really really wonder who said that....

Chip R
03-14-2006, 02:44 PM
I really really wonder who said that....

I have my suspicions. :kearns:

TeamBoone
03-14-2006, 02:50 PM
Really? Wow!

I never would have guessed him.

Chip R
03-14-2006, 02:57 PM
Really? Wow!

I never would have guessed him.

It's just a guess. My reasoning is that he's got a bit of a bitter streak in him and he's competed with WMP for playing time before and very well could again. WMP is not participating in workouts either. He could be a bit envious of WMP too. Whomever said it has a point but they should mind their own business.

BrooklynRedz
03-14-2006, 03:07 PM
I would have guessed a pitcher, or at least someone not in competition with WMP for time. If I were Kearns and thought WMP's absence would retard his progress, I would be doing cartwheels and handing out cigars since it would likely result in more playing time for me.

Chip R
03-14-2006, 03:09 PM
I would have guessed a pitcher, or at least someone not in competition with WMP for time.

Could be but only a few pitchers have room to criticize.

klw
03-14-2006, 03:11 PM
Well other than DeWayne Wise and Q. Mckracken are any of the outfielders in camp doing anything in the games which would seem to be helping the team? Maybe if Dunn had gone to the WBC he would actually be playing 1st.

TeamSelig
03-14-2006, 03:34 PM
I doubt it would be someone competing with Wily Mo for an OF position. They would rather him be rusty and lose a spot, so that they could make the team or a starting role.

Sounds like someone that played on the team last year. Someone that has played enough to the point where they feel they are really apart of the team.

My guess is Rich Aurilia. It sounds like something he would say.

BrooklynRedz
03-14-2006, 03:46 PM
Could be but only a few pitchers have room to criticize.

That's never stopped them before. :evil:

TRF
03-14-2006, 04:18 PM
I was thinking Kearns too. This in no way really affects the pitcher or infielders, and the guys competing for the 4th & 5th OF spot would likely keep their mouths shut. Kearns has come off sounding a little bitter about WMP on more than one occasion.

TeamBoone
03-14-2006, 05:25 PM
Might have been Wagner; he's been known for his mouth on occasion.

Whomever the guy was, he was "us", as in team. It could be anyone, not just an outfielder.