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Heath
03-15-2006, 12:05 PM
Carlos Pena's future as a Detroit Tigers first baseman is no more, or less, certain this week than it was when spring training convened a month ago. Various reports have suggested Pena will be released Thursday, the final day players under contract for 2006 can be jettisoned for one-sixth of the salary owed them. -- Detroit News


Carlos Pena is not coming to Cincinnati, that is not why Thursday is a big day.

Thursday is a day that can be a benefit to the Reds and either Eric Milton, Tony Womack, or whomever they feel necessary to cut. The dollars will not be as hurtful, if the cut is done on Thursday.

In reality, nothing is going to happen. However, the thought is out there.

TeamBoone
03-15-2006, 12:09 PM
Wow! I never heard about that rule.

I'm thoroughly surprised that the Reds haven't taken advantage of it in years past. And even more suprised that they won't take advantage of it this year... but like you said, we all know they won't.

Sounds like a gift to me.

M2
03-15-2006, 12:13 PM
That rule does not apply to players on multi-year deals (like Milton). I'm not sure if it applies to Womack either. Generally it's for player who are inside the free agency window.

oneupper
03-15-2006, 12:14 PM
Carlos Pena is not coming to Cincinnati, that is not why Thursday is a big day.

Thursday is a day that can be a benefit to the Reds and either Eric Milton, Tony Womack, or whomever they feel necessary to cut. The dollars will not be as hurtful, if the cut is done on Thursday.

In reality, nothing is going to happen. However, the thought is out there.


How does a contract guarantee play in this? Does Womack (for example) have a guaranteed contract?

TeamBoone
03-15-2006, 12:15 PM
That rule does not apply to players on multi-year deals (like Milton). I'm not sure if it applies to Womack either. Generally it's for player who are inside the free agency window.

Oh. That explains it.

Thanks.

princeton
03-15-2006, 12:15 PM
Reds owe Eric Milton whether he plays for them or not.

If cut, we either owe him everything on his contract (if he doesn't play) or everything on his contract less the major league minimum salary (if he's picked up by another club)

this isn't the NFL

flyer85
03-15-2006, 12:17 PM
That rule does not apply to players on multi-year deals (like Milton). I'm not sure if it applies to Womack either.Womack is in the 2nd year of a 2 year deal and the Reds are on the hook to pay him a cool million. I still wish they'd just cut him.

Chip R
03-15-2006, 12:17 PM
Wow! I never heard about that rule.

I'm thoroughly surprised that the Reds haven't taken advantage of it in years past. And even more suprised that they won't take advantage of it this year... but like you said, we all know they won't.

Sounds like a gift to me.

I think they did with Jose Guillen the spring of his breakout year but they ended up re-signing him to a minor league deal. Likewise with John VanderWal.

Heath
03-15-2006, 12:31 PM
Rats - I forgot about the multi-year deal part.

sorry for the false hope everyone.

Chip R
03-15-2006, 12:33 PM
Rats - I forgot about the multi-year deal part.

sorry for the false hope everyone.

I'm going to neg you for that. ;)

Heath
03-15-2006, 12:51 PM
I'm going to neg you for that. ;)

Stand in line ....... :D

flyer85
03-15-2006, 12:57 PM
Stand in line ....... :Dshould have saved it for April 1st.

KronoRed
03-15-2006, 01:02 PM
Rats - I forgot about the multi-year deal part.

sorry for the false hope everyone.
Don't make us send this guy for you
http://lastperson.suncircle.org/Smileys/default/268345.gif

flyer85
03-15-2006, 01:04 PM
Don't make us send this guy for you
http://lastperson.suncircle.org/Smileys/default/268345.gifIs that Dick Cheney?

KronoRed
03-15-2006, 01:07 PM
Yes.

Yes it is.

flyer85
03-15-2006, 01:12 PM
Yes.

Yes it is.Is he hunting wabbit?

KronoRed
03-15-2006, 01:19 PM
Yep..but the rabbit got the drop on him ;)

RedsManRick
03-15-2006, 01:41 PM
This would apply to somebody like Aurilia or Rick White though, correct?

OnBaseMachine
03-15-2006, 06:28 PM
Carlos Pena's future as a Detroit Tigers first baseman is no more, or less, certain this week than it was when spring training convened a month ago. Various reports have suggested Pena will be released Thursday, the final day players under contract for 2006 can be jettisoned for one-sixth of the salary owed them. -- Detroit News


If Carlos Pena is released, I hope Krivsky picks him up. This is a guy who has posted an OPS over .800 the last two years and hit 45 homeruns over that time span in a pitcher's park. He could be a solid bat off the bench and even start if/when one of the outfielders get hurt or traded.

Mario-Rijo
03-15-2006, 07:08 PM
If Carlos Pena is released, I hope Krivsky picks him up. This is a guy who has posted an OPS over .800 the last two years and hit 45 homeruns over that time span in a pitcher's park. He could be a solid bat off the bench and even start if/when one of the outfielders get hurt or traded.






I agree I like Pena especially to a Minor League contract with maybe the promise of possibly being a starter by years end.

jnwohio
03-16-2006, 12:00 AM
This would apply to somebody like Aurilia or Rick White though, correct?

Depends if the contract is guarenteed. It applies to nonguarenteed Major League contracts which do not include a "split" provision to kick in if the player is sent down. Even with a split provision it would apply if the guy was released as opposed to optioned or outrighted. There is a tier of these dates leading up to opening day. As of opening day, anyone on a 40 man roster or major league DL gets 100% of the salary agreed to for the year even if they are released or sent down (assuming no split agreement for minors in advance).