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RedsIn07
03-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Per Marc's Blog:

Pirates
Rajai Davis CF
Jack Wilson SS
Sean Casey 1B
Craig Wilson LF
Ryan Doumit C
Joe Randa 3B
Jose Castillo 2B
Ray Sadler RF
Zach Duke P

Reds
Ryan Freel CF
Tony Womack 2B
Felipe Lopez SS
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Rich Aurilia 1B
Austin Kearns RF
Jason LaRue C
Brandon Claussen P

Red Leader
03-16-2006, 11:07 AM
I guess anything goes as long as Dunn doesn't play 1B? :dunno:

RedsManRick
03-16-2006, 11:09 AM
I'm glad he didn't play in the WBC so he could get time in at 1B. Besides, with Randy Winn and Matt Holliday, the US squad is set anyways............

Red Leader
03-16-2006, 11:10 AM
I think if you switch Jr for Freel and Hatteberg for Aurillia, that's your Opening Day lineup vs RH pitchers.

Going to be interesting to see how they work this, but I don't think Dunn will see more than 50% of his starts at 1B this year, at least that's what I'm gathering from his lack of playing time there this spring.

Heath
03-16-2006, 11:35 AM
That ... or they are showcasing the venerable Richie A. at First Sack.

:pray:

MartyFan
03-16-2006, 11:49 AM
Or shocasing Freel in Center

BRM
03-16-2006, 11:58 AM
How many games has Dunn played at 1B this spring?

TeamBoone
03-16-2006, 01:25 PM
2 or 3, I think.

pedro
03-16-2006, 01:28 PM
The lack of time Dunn has spent at 1st is a little curious.

Chip R
03-16-2006, 01:43 PM
The lack of time Dunn has spent at 1st is a little curious.

Perhaps he's already fielding the position at a J.T. Snow level? ;)

pedro
03-16-2006, 01:44 PM
Perhaps he's already fielding the position at a J.T. Snow level? ;)


Hopefully it's just that they don't think he needs the time there.

Caveat Emperor
03-16-2006, 01:45 PM
Why is it that the people PAID to know that a player is no good are always the last people to find out that a player is no good?

TeamBoone
03-16-2006, 01:46 PM
Though I did read that he's still working every day with Chambliss on 1B, which was one of the reasons he didn't make the road trip to Ft. Myers.

After reading that, I was still left wondering why he doesn't actually play that position more often. You'd think that they would want to see how much all his work with Chambliss is paying off, and you just don't know until he's actually playing the position in a game situation.

The whole thing is a headscratcher.

Chip R
03-16-2006, 02:00 PM
Though I did read that he's still working every day with Chambliss on 1B, which was one of the reasons he didn't make the road trip to Ft. Myers.

After reading that, I was still left wondering why he doesn't actually play that position more often. You'd think that they would want to see how much all his work with Chambliss is paying off, and you just don't know until he's actually playing the position in a game situation.

The whole thing is a headscratcher.

I figured he's practicing at it every day. But you just can't always simulate game conditions in practice even though the Reds are probably doing the best they can. Right now, it's not a big deal since he'd only play 3-4 innings anyway but if he's playing OF or DH more often beginning next week, that's when something might be up.

Reds1
03-16-2006, 02:06 PM
Something seems to be brewing. With the Kata signing and what is going on with Dunn and all the utility guys. I have no idea, but it just seems some kind of move is on the horizon. Wily Mo gone? Who knows.

Red Leader
03-16-2006, 02:08 PM
Something seems to be brewing. With the Kata signing and what is going on with Dunn and all the utility guys. I have no idea, but it just seems some kind of move is on the horizon. Wily Mo gone? Who knows.

Totally agree.

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 02:11 PM
Hopefully it's just that they don't think he needs the time there.
We need Hatteberg there. :bang:

LoganBuck
03-16-2006, 02:13 PM
FWIW, Chris Welsh said on WLW this morning: "Ryan Freel is drawing considerable interest from other teams."

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 02:15 PM
I wouldn't trade Freel unless it's some good pitching coming back our way.

He's cheap, he can leadoff (something nobody else on this team can do) and he can play a lot of spots.

flyer85
03-16-2006, 02:16 PM
I wouldn't trade Freel unless... Tony Womack goes with him

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 02:19 PM
Sad is if they trade Freel they will use it as an excuse to start Womack because "he can leadoff"

LoganBuck
03-16-2006, 02:24 PM
Krono, kids could be reading that!

Heath
03-16-2006, 02:35 PM
If Ryan Freel is deemed more expendable then cutting Tony Womack, I am liable to spew that WayneK is no better than DanO.

I swear the next time I hear that Ryan Freel is worse than Tony Womack in this organization's eyes, I am liable to just scream.

Lets get rid of a guy who has 5-7 years ahead of him for a guy who's never had a prime, but is a National League-type player. :rolleyes:

For the love of Pete

TeamBoone
03-16-2006, 02:41 PM
If Ryan Freel is deemed more expendable then cutting Tony Womack, I am liable to spew that WayneK is no better than DanO.

It may be a case of who can bring more to the trading table... but it better be a pitcher... a decent pitcher, because Freel is definiately more valuable to this team than (I don't want to break a rule)... some others on this team!

Chip R
03-16-2006, 02:42 PM
1-0 Bucs. Doumit Miltons off of Claussen.

TeamBoone
03-16-2006, 02:43 PM
Krono, kids could be reading that!

This made me laugh out loud.

BTW, anyone know what's happening with the game? Anybody have PBP?

Oops, thanks Chip.

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 02:43 PM
Krono, kids could be reading that!
Are you saying my posts need a rating limit? :evil:

Caveat Emperor
03-16-2006, 02:47 PM
1-0 Bucs. Doumit Miltons off of Claussen.

When this is all said and done, we're going to have to publish a translation FAQ so that new members will understand posts like the following:

"I'm so sick of this guy just grounding into a Casey play after Casey play when he's got RISP. We need more Milton hitters in this lineup and less scrappiness. I loathe this signing"

BRM
03-16-2006, 02:48 PM
Something seems to be brewing. With the Kata signing and what is going on with Dunn and all the utility guys. I have no idea, but it just seems some kind of move is on the horizon. Wily Mo gone? Who knows.

I'd rather see Denorfia get the PT over Hatteberg. If Pena gets traded, just leave Dunn at 1B and put Denorfia in the OF. Playing Hatteberg regularly does nothing to improve the Reds.

klw
03-16-2006, 02:51 PM
I guess the logic could be to give Hatteburg the time now because when the WBC is over and Spring training winds down, there will be no SS games and the regulars will need all the time they can get.

Chip R
03-16-2006, 02:57 PM
2-1 PIT now after 2 and a half.

pedro
03-16-2006, 02:58 PM
I guess the logic could be to give Hatteburg the time now because when the WBC is over and Spring training winds down, there will be no SS games and the regulars will need all the time they can get.

I hope you're right.

flyer85
03-16-2006, 02:58 PM
has Casey been beaned yet today?

Heath
03-16-2006, 03:06 PM
has Casey been beaned yet today?

Not yet - do you have bounty? ;)

Heath
03-16-2006, 03:06 PM
I guess the logic could be to give Hatteburg the time now because when the WBC is over and Spring training winds down, there will be no SS games and the regulars will need all the time they can get.

boy, I hope you are right.

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 03:08 PM
I find it hard to see Narron thinking that far ahead

oneupper
03-16-2006, 03:14 PM
The thing about Freel is that it is hard to put him in at 2B because of his glove. And its hard to put him in the OF because of his lack of power (and arm). I guess that's why he's the super-sub.

If they can't figure out how to use him, they'll probably trade him. (just sayin').

flyer85
03-16-2006, 03:16 PM
The thing about Freel is that it is hard to put him in at 2B because of his glove. ... and yet he is is a far superior 2b than the guy they are going to give the job to.

Doc. Scott
03-16-2006, 03:16 PM
Adam Dunn homers off favorite Reds punching bag Ryan Vogelsong to tie the score at 2. Bottom of 4.

pedro
03-16-2006, 03:19 PM
... and yet he is is a far superior 2b than the guy they are going to give the job to.


I don't know if he's "far superior" in the field but I seriously doubt he's substantially worse and given Freel's superiority on offense it really is a no brainer IMO.

Chip R
03-16-2006, 03:25 PM
3-2 Reds now bottom of the 4th.

M2
03-16-2006, 03:27 PM
I'm all for trading Freel if another team makes a good offer him. Unloading him to clear up a (mis)perceived excess would a big mistake though.

oneupper
03-16-2006, 03:34 PM
... and yet he is is a far superior 2b than the guy they are going to give the job to.

Frustrating...isn't it?

pedro
03-16-2006, 03:37 PM
I'm all for trading Freel if another team makes a good offer him. Unloading him to clear up a (mis)perceived excess would a big mistake though.


For pitching yes.

Doc. Scott
03-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Reds add another one. 4-2, in the bottom of 5.

M2
03-16-2006, 03:43 PM
For pitching yes.

It would almost have to be pitching. Though if someone wanted to deal a top C, SS or CF prospect for him, I wouldn't sneeze at that (not likely to happen though).

Chip R
03-16-2006, 04:11 PM
5-2 now, bottom of the 6th.

Doc. Scott
03-16-2006, 04:30 PM
Reds have scored in each of the previous four innings and lead 7-2 in the bottom of 7.

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 04:30 PM
They win efficient runs?

oneupper
03-16-2006, 04:35 PM
They win efficient runs?

Nope. If you win by more than 1...it ain't efficient.

Good thing there's still time to give up 4.

flyer85
03-16-2006, 04:37 PM
Nope. If you win by more than 1...it ain't efficient.

Good thing there's still time to give up 4.... or 10(oops, I forgot, Mr. Small isn't here anymore).

Doc. Scott
03-16-2006, 04:54 PM
Reds finish off a 7-2 victory. Eleven hits, one error. Hope it's T-Woe's.

lollipopcurve
03-16-2006, 04:55 PM
Do we know who pitched after Claussen?

flyer85
03-16-2006, 04:57 PM
Hope it's T-Woe's.That's not nice.:nono: I got dinged by the happy police for referring to the aforementioned by a nickname.

There are probably people who will run out of this thread and :cry:

BRM
03-16-2006, 05:04 PM
There are probably people who will run out of this thread and :cry:

I did...:cry:

:p:

Chip R
03-16-2006, 05:19 PM
Reds are undefeated with Aurilia playing 1st. Just sayin'. ;)

wheels
03-16-2006, 05:24 PM
Wonder what Claussen's line was...

LincolnparkRed
03-16-2006, 05:24 PM
Do we know who pitched after Claussen?



B Claussen (W,2-0) 4 5 2 1 1 4 1
R Wagner 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
D Weathers 1 1 0 0 1 2 0
K Mercker 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
R White 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
C Hammond 1 0 0 0 0 2 0

Ask and you shall receive

flyer85
03-16-2006, 05:28 PM
EE was 2-3 today.

And the studly 2b was 0-3.

Doc. Scott
03-16-2006, 05:34 PM
Kearns and Sardinha with a couple of RBIs apiece. Encarnacion and Denorfia score a couple each. And David Weathers finally pitched an inning and didn't allow a run.

SirFelixCat
03-16-2006, 05:36 PM
Seems that Wagner has settled down his last few outings. To me, he and Kearns have been my biggest concerns this spring (letting the rest of you sweat the 2b battle and our woeful starting 5 doesn't need mentioning).

VERY glad to see Wags doing much better of late.

Heath
03-16-2006, 06:05 PM
How did Claussen get the win when he didn't pitch the required 5 innings?

What gives?

;)

Nugget
03-16-2006, 06:24 PM
Its ST - same way Harang got the win on Sunday(?). For ST its a minimum of 2 with the lead which is never surrendered.

I think your seeing the bullpen get a work out now to see who is getting those spots. Was the veterans day today.

And does someone have the box score - For a game thread it was seriously lacking info. Thanks for those who kept us in touch.

OnBaseMachine
03-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Dunn homers in Reds' win over Bucs
Claussen gives up two runs in start; Wagner sharp in relief
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com

Reds 7, Pirates 2
at Sarasota, Fla.
Thursday, March 16

Reds at the plate: Adam Dunn led off the fourth inning with a home run to right-center field. It was Dunn's second long ball of the spring. Edwin Encarnacion was 2-for-3 and scored two runs. Felipe Lopez was 1-for-3 with an RBI single to left field. Dan Sardinha's two-out bloop single to shallow right field scored two more runs in the seventh.

Pirates at the plate: Catcher Ryan Doumit hit his third home run of the season, a solo shot to left field with one out in the second inning. Rajai Davis singled in the third inning and scored on Sean Casey's groundout.

Reds on the mound: Starter Brandon Claussen pitched four innings and allowed two runs, one earned, on five hits. Claussen walked one and struck out four. Competing for a bullpen spot, reliever Ryan Wagner was sharp during a 1-2-3 fifth inning and used just nine pitches.

Pirates on the mound: Pitching on just three days' rest, left-hander Zach Duke allowed one run and two hits over three innings. Duke walked one and struck out three. It was a rougher day for Ryan Vogelsong, who gave up four earned runs and seven hits over his three innings. Vogelsong walked two and struck out four. Roberto Hernandez allowed two runs, two hits and two walks in one inning and struck out one.

Grapefruit League records: Reds 9-7; Pirates 9-7.

Up next: The Reds travel to Dunedin to play the Blue Jays on Friday at 1:05 p.m. ET. The Pirates return to McKechnie Field for a game against the Indians.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060316&content_id=1352338&vkey=spt2006gamer&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

TeamBoone
03-16-2006, 07:11 PM
PITTSBURGH (2) AT CINCINNATI (7)


PITTSBURGH AB R H BI CINCINNATI AB R H BI
R Davis cf 4 1 1 0 R Freel cf 3 1 1 0
J Wilson ss 3 0 1 0 F Menechino 2b 1 0 0 1
J Furmaniak ss 1 0 0 0 T Womack 2b 3 0 0 0
S Casey 1b 3 0 0 1 F Lopez ss 3 0 1 1
J Gerut rf 1 0 1 0 A Holbert 3b 2 0 0 0
C Wilson lf 3 0 0 0 A Dunn lf 2 1 1 1
J Alfaro 2b 1 0 0 0 Q McCracken lf 2 1 1 0
R Doumit c 2 1 1 1 E Encarnacion 3b 3 2 2 0
M Edwards 3b 1 0 0 0 T Rhodes ph 1 0 0 0
J Randa 3b 2 0 1 0 R Aurilia 1b 1 0 1 0
Y DeCaster 1b 1 0 0 0 C Denorfia cf 1 2 1 0
S Casey 1b 3 0 0 1 A Kearns rf 1 0 1 2
P Chiaffredo 2b 1 0 0 0 D Wise rf 2 0 0 0
R Sadler rf 4 0 0 0 J LaRue c 2 0 0 0
Z Duke p 2 0 0 0 D Sardinha c 1 0 1 2
C Maldonado ph 0 0 0 0 B Claussen p 1 0 0 0
J Cruz ph 1 0 0 0
S Hatteberg 1b 1 0 1 0
M Kata ss 2 0 0 0
TOTALS 32 2 5 3 TOTALS 33 7 11 7
PITTSBURGH 011 000 000 -- 2
CINCINNATI 010 211 20x -- 7

E--B Claussen. DP--PITTSBURGH 1, CINCINNATI 2.
LOB--PITTSBURGH 6, CINCINNATI 9. 2B--R Aurilia, R
Freel, J Randa. HR--A Dunn 1 (2) (off R
Vogelsong), R Doumit 1 (3) (off B Claussen). SB--Q
McCracken 1 (1), F Lopez 1 (1), C Denorfia 1 (1).
SF--A Kearns.


IP H R ER BB SO HR
PITTSBURGH
Z Duke 3 2 1 1 1 3 0
R Vogelsong (L,0-1) 3 7 4 4 2 4 1
J Hernandez 1 2 2 2 2 1 0
B Reames 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
CINCINNATI
B Claussen (W,2-0) 4 5 2 1 1 4 1
R Wagner 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
D Weathers 1 1 0 0 1 2 0
K Mercker 1 0 0 0 1 1 0
R White 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
C Hammond 1 0 0 0 0 2 0
HBP--F Menechino by R Vogelsong. PB--J LaRue.
SO--PIT: C Wilson 2, R Sadler 2, R Davis 2, S
Casey, J Randa, Y DeCaster. CIN: R Freel 2, J
LaRue, T Womack, T Rhodes, M Kata, D Wise, F
Lopez. BB--PIT: C Maldonado, J Randa, R Doumit.
CIN: J LaRue, R Aurilia, S Hatteberg, A Dunn, C
Denorfia. T--2:41. A--5,112.

Heath
03-16-2006, 07:34 PM
And does someone have the box score - For a game thread it was seriously lacking info. Thanks for those who kept us in touch.

Sorry Nugget - its March Madness in this side of the world. College Basketball the next couple of days will take up our time.

traderumor
03-16-2006, 08:11 PM
Sorry Nugget - its March Madness in this side of the world. College Basketball the next couple of days will take up our time.
Also, the only real time info on the game was an inning by inning scoreboard with home runs being the only play by play