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savafan
03-16-2006, 01:12 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060314/en_movies_eo/18561



By Gina Serpe Tue Mar 14, 4:18 PM ET

Bring out the Welcome wagon.

Ice Cube has signed on to play the title role in a film adaptation of the classic 1970s TV series Welcome Back, Kotter, it was announced Tuesday.

As part of his deal with Dimension Films, Cube will also coproduce the redo of the former ABC series that turned
John Travolta into a household name.

"There was no bigger fan of the original show than me, and I'm very excited to be able to put a new twist on it," the Barbershop star said in a statement.

Cube will play the titular Gabe Kotter, a slacker turned teacher who returns to his inner-city alma mater and who sees himself in the new batch of underprivileged troublemakers. He works to inspire the seemingly apathetic students, known as the Sweathogs.

The gang of kids is led by scatterbrained himbo Vinnie Barbarino, played in the original incarnation by Travolta. The original 'hogs also included the super suave Freddie "Boom-Boom" Washington (originally played by Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs), the tough-talking Juan Luis Pedro Phillipo de Huevos Epstein (
Robert Hegyes), and nasally nerd Arnold Dingfelder Horshack (
Ron Palillo) and were responsible for injecting retorts like "up your nose with a rubber hose" into the cultural vernacular.

Gabe Kaplan, who played Kotter in the original 1975-79 series, also created the show with partner Alan Sacks and retained the rights. He said that despite heavy interest from studios over the years, they held out on adapting Kotter until the right pitch came along.

"We were skeptical about selling Kotter because making a great movie from a TV show can be challenging," Kaplan said. "After meeting with the Weinsteins [Harvey and Bob Weinstein run Dimension], we knew they were the right ones to bring this project to the screen."

No word on whether any of the original stars will make cameos in the film, though if the recent influx of box office remakes are any indication, it's highly likely that some of the old gang will pay their respects. Likewise, we assume that Cube will give a hip-hop spin to the classic "Welcome Back" theme song, originally crooned by
John Sebastian.

The Hot Chick's Tom Brady has signed on to write and direct Kotter.

Production is expected to kick off this fall, after filming is complete on Cube's next project, Are We Done Yet?, a sequel to last year's surprise hit Are We There Yet?, which happens to be another remake--this time based loosely on the Cary Grant film Mr. Blandings Builds His Dreamhouse. Cameras roll on that film in Vancouver this June.

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flyer85
03-16-2006, 02:00 PM
The head sweathog makes his living playing poker these days.

Signed

Epstein's Mother

Johnny Footstool
03-16-2006, 02:55 PM
Is Hollywood really that hard-up for scripts? Where are the movie adaptations of "Flo", "The Facts of Life", "Gimmie a Break", and "Three's Company"?

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 02:57 PM
Is Hollywood really that hard-up for scripts? Where are the movie adaptations of "Flo", "The Facts of Life", "Gimmie a Break", and "Three's Company"?
Give it a few years.

Steve4192
03-16-2006, 02:58 PM
What's the problem?

If you are going to remake Kotter in the present day, he pretty much HAS to be a minority. The fact of the matter is, there aren't a whole lot of jewish folks running around in inner city schools these days. Hiring a Gabe Kaplan clone would be about as realistic as using Michelle Pfeiffer as an tough ex-military school marm in the middle of the ghetto. ;)

Steve4192
03-16-2006, 02:59 PM
Is Hollywood really that hard-up for scripts? Where are the movie adaptations of "Flo", "The Facts of Life", "Gimmie a Break", and "Three's Company"?
Kiss my grits!

Chip R
03-16-2006, 03:02 PM
Is Hollywood really that hard-up for scripts? Where are the movie adaptations of "Flo", "The Facts of Life", "Gimmie a Break", and "Three's Company"?

Oh, it gets better. Word is they are doing a "Dallas" movie. They want John Travolta as J.R., Luke Wilson as Bobby and JLo as Sue Ellen.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/eo/20060315/114245862002.html

flyer85
03-16-2006, 03:04 PM
We really need to see the movie versions of "All in the Family" and the "Jeffersons".

Steve4192
03-16-2006, 03:12 PM
We really need to see the movie versions of "All in the Family" and the "Jeffersons".
Actually, I would love to see those. I also think AITF would work pretty well if they reversed the races and hired a black guy to play Archie Bunker. That would also make it an easier sell in todays PC climate.

Red Leader
03-16-2006, 03:17 PM
What about the A-Team? That needs to be made into a movie.

KronoRed
03-16-2006, 03:17 PM
What about the A-Team? That needs to be made into a movie.
Pretty sure I read somewhere that they are planning one.

Red Leader
03-16-2006, 03:18 PM
They need a Square Pegs movie, too. w/o Sarah Jessica Parker, though.

pedro
03-16-2006, 03:20 PM
They need a Square Pegs movie, too. w/o Sarah Jessica Parker, though.

Square pegs, square pegs. Square, square pegs
Always never quite right.
Iíd like it if they liked us, but I donít think they like us.
So tell me whereís the party, and how come we werenít invited?
One size does not fit all.

Donít wanna wear my glasses, I have to wear my glasses.
Why are we wearing this year what they were wearing last year?
Yeah, Iíd be cuter without gum in my braces.
I hope the whole is greater than the sum of itís parts.

She said that she was, but we know she isnít
And she said that she would but he hasnít asked her.

He did - and we know it. But with whom? We can't guess it.
And they think that weíre the.

Square pegs, square pegs. Square, square pegs

Really funny - who broke the π button on my calculator?
May you be eternally grounded.
Me? Get juiced with The Cool Patrol?
Uh . . . no thanks . . . Why do you think they call it beer?
I mean...listen to him!

(sax solo)

Square pegs, square pegs. Square, square pegs

Ya know, our school colors should be black and blue.
Yeah. I mean no. Huh? What?
No. I donít think I have a bad attitude. Why?
Suspended? Suspended for what?
But they told me it was Senior Wig Day!
Honest, I donít even know how those worms got there.
Now, what would I do with 200 peanut butter cups?
One size does not fit all

Red Leader
03-16-2006, 03:23 PM
Soooo cool. :pimp: :dancingco

flyer85
03-16-2006, 03:31 PM
well if they reversed the races and hired a black guy to play Archie Bunker. That would be George Jefferson.

Johnny Footstool
03-16-2006, 05:08 PM
One of the problems with adapting old TV shows to the big screen is that the charm of the original is lost. Even if the show was ridiculously bad, we grew accustomed to the characters and the actors who portrayed them. We did so not because the characters were instantly memorable, but because they developed before our eyes, and we got to know them a little at a time over the course of the series. In a movie, we get a condensed, refurbished version of someone else's vision of the characters. More often than not, it falls flat.

Heath
03-16-2006, 06:38 PM
I think a remake of Dukes of Hazzard as a movie would be SOOOO cool. And maybe they can find some 2nd rate actors and some bimbo queen to be Daisy Duke.


Oh wait...my bad.

CincyReds2003
03-16-2006, 06:45 PM
I'm still waiting for the Hogan's Heroes remake..We would just have to fun a modern day perv to play Hogan though.

Heath
03-16-2006, 06:52 PM
I'm still waiting for the Hogan's Heroes remake..We would just have to fun a modern day perv to play Hogan though.

This doesn't answer your question - but I think we could do this:

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/hogans-heroes.jpg

Played by -
http://www.lvlife.com/2000/04/702/images/702_george_clooney.jpg

redsfanmia
03-16-2006, 08:08 PM
Are all the stories told? Are all the original movies made? I love going to the movies, its one of my simple pleasures, but there is nothing on that appeals to me anymore. I dont know if im just getting old or if the movies just stink.

Steve4192
03-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Are all the stories told? Are all the original movies made? I love going to the movies, its one of my simple pleasures, but there is nothing on that appeals to me anymore. I dont know if im just getting old or if the movies just stink.
Brokeback Mountain was original.

CrackerJack
03-16-2006, 08:47 PM
Are all the stories told? Are all the original movies made? I love going to the movies, its one of my simple pleasures, but there is nothing on that appeals to me anymore. I dont know if im just getting old or if the movies just stink.

They stink. Like music these days, you gotta hunt around for less publicized/sponsored stuff to find anything worthwhile most of the time. I seem to spend most of my movie-watching time renting older ones I haven't seen yet.

I'm waiting for the 2 hour reality show movie to be released as a psuedo-documentary, and start a whole new trend. :)

It's pretty much gotten to the point that celebrity actors drive things, and you can just throw them in any high priced scenario you want, and the minions will come.

I tend to prefer less recognizeable faces in movies, makes 'em more immersive/believeable.

I couldn't stop picturing Nick Nolte's mug shot or waiting for Eddie Murphy to show up in "Hotel Rawanda," for instance. It didn't exactly mesh with the non-fictional massacre story of the movie.

RBA
03-16-2006, 11:21 PM
Barney Miller, The Movie

KronoRed
03-17-2006, 02:11 AM
Barney Miller, The Movie
I'd see it.

As long as they got Abe Vigoda back

The Baumer
03-17-2006, 07:28 AM
Making movies has nothing to do with quality or content, it's about making money. Pre-sold franchises (i.e. remakes, super hero films, films adapated from books, etc.) already have an established base of potential viewers, whereas an entirely new film has nothing. It's a much wiser business decision.

Johnny Footstool
03-17-2006, 09:33 AM
As long as they got Abe Vigoda back

Then they can follow up with a "Fish" sequel.

RBA
03-17-2006, 11:05 AM
I DREAM OF JEANNIE is being remade into a movie. Kate Hudson as Jeannie. And I think it's the guy from the that Red Sox movie is going to play the Larry Hagman role.

savafan
03-17-2006, 02:56 PM
I DREAM OF JEANNIE is being remade into a movie. Kate Hudson as Jeannie. And I think it's the guy from the that Red Sox movie is going to play the Larry Hagman role.


If you mean Jimmy Kimmel, that just ruined my day. The only thing entertaining about that guy is that he can't deliver his lines without laughing.

This is why I've turned to the foreign film market for originality.

marcshoe
03-17-2006, 03:00 PM
When you consider that today's debuting "She's The Man", starring Amanda Bynes or whatever her name is as her brother, is said to be an adaptation of Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night", I'm not sure things could get much worse.

Steve4192
03-17-2006, 05:27 PM
If you mean Jimmy Kimmel, that just ruined my day. The only thing entertaining about that guy is that he can't deliver his lines without laughing.
I think you mean Jimmy Fallon.

Jimmy Kimmell is the guy from "The Man Show" and "Win Ben Stein's Money" who currently has his own late-night talk show.

RFS62
03-17-2006, 05:30 PM
I DREAM OF JEANNIE is being remade into a movie. Kate Hudson as Jeannie. And I think it's the guy from the that Red Sox movie is going to play the Larry Hagman role.



Kate Hudson as Jeannie?!?!?!?!

I can think of two reasons that won't work.

savafan
03-17-2006, 05:46 PM
I think you mean Jimmy Fallon.

Jimmy Kimmell is the guy from "The Man Show" and "Win Ben Stein's Money" who currently has his own late-night talk show.


You are so right. Hey, I have a fever.

RBA
03-17-2006, 06:51 PM
I also think Jimmy Kimmell is a poor choice. It might be better off if he played Roger Healy. And get another actor to play Tony Nelson. Tom Hanks is too old for the part?

On a side note, did you like Barbara Eden more as Jeannie or playing Jeannie's naughty sister?

redsfanmia
03-17-2006, 07:23 PM
I vote for Jessica Simpson as Jeannie.

savafan
03-17-2006, 08:13 PM
I vote for Jessica Simpson as Jeannie.

I prefer Jessica Alba or Reese Witherspoon.

OldRightHander
03-18-2006, 07:13 PM
Heck, we could always do Sanford and Son while we're at it.

Heath
03-19-2006, 12:43 AM
You are all wrong. We need a WKRP in Cincinnati - The movie.

flyer85
03-20-2006, 08:37 AM
Kate Hudson as Jeannie?!?!?!?!

I can think of two reasons that won't work.or would that be the lack of two reasons?