View Full Version : Bottom NL starting 2b by projected VORP

03-21-2006, 10:15 AM
From BP, of course

Bottom 5 2006 NL Starting Second Basemen, by PECOTA Projected VORP
Player Team Projected VORP
Tony Womack CIN -10.6
Dan Uggla FLO 0.5
Luis Gonzalez COL 9.2
Junior Spivey SLN 10.3
Jose Castillo PIT 12.0


03-21-2006, 12:52 PM
-10.6? Wow, just wow.

Caveat Emperor
03-21-2006, 01:08 PM
The Replacement Player lacks veteran savvy and an understanding of how the game should be played.

Chip R
03-21-2006, 01:36 PM
I hope people don't get caught up in the virtual stampede to get Tony Womack for their 2nd baseman for their HACKING MASS teams.

03-21-2006, 05:08 PM
I didn't feel like this deserved its own thread, but the stat-minded folks at Replacement Level Yankee Weblog have put together predictions based on Diamond Mind Baseball, PECOTA and ZiPS. It's very interesting, even the parts I don't totally understand. The Reds are dead last in every category:


He makes a note at the end that he didn't account for the recent trade, and that "Brandon" should add 2-3 wins for the Reds (but thinks it's "a good pickup for [Cincinnati] after all.") I'll bring the champagne.

Red Leader
03-21-2006, 06:51 PM
Good God. Dan Uggla, a Rule V pick this year, is over 11 points higher than Womack.

That is truly an accurate measure of how TOTALLY AWFUL Tony Womack is.

03-22-2006, 01:27 AM
Dear Mr. Krivsky:
This is your first no-brainer as GM of the Reds. Tony Womack is terrible, and it doesn't require a degree in statistics to see that. Should you give/allow Narron to give the starting 2B job to Mr. Womack, many fans will lose a great deal of confidence in you. Please do not disappoint.


A concerned Reds fan.

03-22-2006, 01:31 AM
A question to add to this discussion: for sake of comparison, who else projects this low (MLB) ?

Puig Your Red
03-22-2006, 01:45 AM
Holy crap that is awful.