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Wheelhouse
03-22-2006, 08:17 AM
Theo compares himw/Jesse Barfield--is that the upside thery're hoping for? Aside from one 40 hr 108 rbi year he never hit 30 hrs again and never hit .290. Barfield was basically a 20-25 hr, 80 rbi guy. Is this what Theo sees as the top of the curve, or is he aiming low with the hope of being surprised? I just have never heard of Barfield being a standard to measure against...

Joseph
03-22-2006, 10:57 AM
I think the reason for the comparison is that Barfield didn't 'take off' until he was 23 or 24, aka the age Wily Mo is now.

Red Leader
03-22-2006, 11:00 AM
I think the reason for the comparison is that Barfield didn't 'take off' until he was 23 or 24, aka the age Wily Mo is now.

He also never had a very good batting average or on-base average and didn't walk (although more frequently than Pena) very much to go along with that power.

westofyou
03-22-2006, 11:28 AM
Barfield was basically a 20-25 hr, 80 rbi guy. Is this what Theo sees as the top of the curve, or is he aiming low with the hope of being surprised? I just have never heard of Barfield being a standard to measure against...

You can't use counting stats to compare players from 2 different eras, especially in diffrent parks and leagues.

But you can use rate stats and see the comparison, low BA and small walk ratio, high K ratio. A year with a BA of .285 and 65 walks can net a line like this:

.289/.368/.559/.927

A .245 BA and 25 less walks can give you this

.244/.302/.425/.728

Barfield, Tony Armas, Ellis Valentine, bright burning stars that go black quickly, and as they say in science class.


Its fate is determined by the original mass of the star; it will become either a black dwarf, neutron star, or black hole.