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Chip R
03-25-2006, 12:22 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-sosa24.html

savafan
03-25-2006, 12:29 AM
That's two former teammates now to turn on Sosa.

ajmlx9
03-25-2006, 01:57 AM
I absolutely hate Sosa. He had a pre-canned apology for when his bat broke and cork was revealed.

TC81190
03-25-2006, 01:59 AM
I absolutely hate Sosa. He had a pre-canned apology for when his bat broke and cork was revealed.

:rolleyes:

dougdirt
03-25-2006, 02:13 AM
ajmlx9....ever heard of anger management?

steig
03-25-2006, 08:30 AM
I think we all knew of the possibility that Sosa was using steroids. The only loophole that I can see is that without a hard rule against steroids baseball was operating on the condition that steroids were an illegal narcotic and thus players could be punished IF they were caught with them. However, to my knowledge steroids are legal in the Domincan Republic. So in the off season when Sosa was at home he wasn't breaking any laws and there wasn't a hard rule in baseball against it.

Baseball has screwed this issue up so much that this is the only punishment players are ever going to get...public perception. Any of the great players will be judged by the Hall of Fame voting and only the truly worthy will be inducted into the Hall. Sure some players who used steroids, epsecially recovery steroids that don't bulk you up, will sneek into the hall of fame. But the voting staff will have to start taking a more critical look at players.


I absolutely hate Sosa. He had a pre-canned apology for when his bat broke and cork was revealed. He is a dirty dirty man who should be deported instantly. I want to beat his head in with a bat.

Ajmlx9-- Do you feel the same way about Mike Schmidt b/c he admitted to using greenies every so often? What about Sabo when he was suspended for using a corked bat?

If this is your feeling about Sosa then i would hate to hear your opinions on the political leaders of this country.

RedsBaron
03-25-2006, 08:53 AM
Of the prominient players who have been accused of using steriods and similar chemical enhancements, Barry Bonds is the only one whom I am confident was a Hall of Fame quality talent without the juice. Bonds's alleged steroid use reportedly started after the 1998 season; at that point he was already a three time MVP winner and had career numbers worthy of the HOF had he retired then.
As for the rest of the alleged steroid users, such as McGwire, Palmiero and Sosa, absent the juice I very much doubt that they would have had HOF worthy careers. That doubt alone would be enough to keep me from voting for their induction into the HOF.

RedLegSuperStar
03-25-2006, 09:43 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-sosa24.html

Good ol' Gracie!

redsfan30
03-25-2006, 10:21 AM
I absolutely hate Sosa. He had a pre-canned apology for when his bat broke and cork was revealed. He is a dirty dirty man who should be deported instantly. I want to beat his head in with a bat.
How many posts like this does it take before a ban occurs?

RedLegSuperStar
03-25-2006, 10:28 AM
How many posts like this does it take before a ban occurs?

His rep doesn't state he should have a place on this forum

Tommyjohn25
03-25-2006, 11:14 AM
How many posts like this does it take before a ban occurs?


I don't know, but I don't have the option to add/subtract rep from him anymore, so he may be gone...if so, don't let the door hit ya on your way out.

westofyou
03-25-2006, 11:22 AM
Grace accuses Sosa of juicing

"He juiced..." he said between a deep drag on his smoke, "Oh... and his music sucks too." Gracie downed his Scotch, and squinted through the haze of the Cubby Bear, he waved at that girl in the corner from earlier and stumbled into the noisy night of the Wrigleyville streets.

"Damn I love Chicago." he mumbled to himself as he hailed a cab.

Team Clark
03-25-2006, 11:54 AM
Hey Gracie, what about your buddy Luis Gonzalez?? Suspected juicer??

MartyFan
03-25-2006, 11:57 AM
I absolutely hate Sosa. He had a pre-canned apology for when his bat broke and cork was revealed.

wow... -82 rep points? .... I've never seen anyone get so far down...you are the Pete Rose of Redszone.

MartyFan
03-25-2006, 11:59 AM
"He juiced..." he said between a deep drag on his smoke, "Oh... and his music sucks too." Gracie downed his Scotch, and squinted through the haze of the Cubby Bear, he waved at that girl in the corner from earlier and stumbled into the noisy night of the Wrigleyville streets.

"Damn I love Chicago." he mumbled to himself as he hailed a cab.

You forgot to cue the saxaphone as the scene fades too black...other than that, PERFECT!

Wheelhouse
03-25-2006, 12:17 PM
I'm not a big Grace fan after that time he went in to pitch and mocked the delivery of his teammate (I can't remember who). The guy looked very embarrassed. Plus, even if you're down 15 runs I don't like goofing around in a major league game. If Grace wants to testify before a court or a MLB investigation, great. Making offhanded remarks to the press is just, well, graceless.

besty65
03-25-2006, 12:27 PM
At least Sosa walked away with his hung in shame, I wish Bonds would do the same.

westofyou
03-25-2006, 12:29 PM
Plus, even if you're down 15 runs I don't like goofing around in a major league game.Gotta disagree, the game is awash in moments like that, it's what seperates it from the back and forths.

Cash batting against Ryan, Kruk against Johnson, Piersell running the bases backwards against Dallas Green, Campy and Tovar playing all the positions in the game, is great stuff. It's a long season and baseball has ample opportunity to be serious. Every now and then some character appears, good stuff IMO.

Yachtzee
03-25-2006, 12:47 PM
"He juiced..." he said between a deep drag on his smoke, "Oh... and his music sucks too." Gracie downed his Scotch, and squinted through the haze of the Cubby Bear, he waved at that girl in the corner from earlier and stumbled into the noisy night of the Wrigleyville streets.

"Damn I love Chicago." he mumbled to himself as he hailed a cab.

Out of nowhere, a cab came rushing down Addison, screaching to a halt right in front of the Cubby Bear. Gracie opened the door and slid into the back seat. "Where to?" asked the cab driver. "To Yak-zees on Clark", he replied. Gracie was the Arthur Fonzarelli of Yak-zees. The regular crowd even referred to the Men's Room as "Gracie's Office." As the cab pulled away and took a hard left onto Clark, Gracie taped the plexiglass behind the driver's head. "Say, have you ever heard of a 'Slumpbuster?'"...

BrooklynRedz
03-25-2006, 03:35 PM
On staying quiet during his playing days: ''I'm also a big believer in 'to each his own.' I don't worry about what the guy eats for dinner. I don't really worry about what his off-the-field relationships are. That's none of my business. If a guy wants to do it and if a guy is willing to pay the price later on in his life, then do it.''

On whether he'd vote for Sosa for the Hall of Fame: ''In a word, 'no.''

At least he's consistent.

vaticanplum
03-25-2006, 04:02 PM
Out of nowhere, a cab came rushing down Addison, screaching to a halt right in front of the Cubby Bear. Gracie opened the door and slid into the back seat. "Where to?" asked the cab driver. "To Yak-zees on Clark", he replied. Gracie was the Arthur Fonzarelli of Yak-zees. The regular crowd even referred to the Men's Room as "Gracie's Office." As the cab pulled away and took a hard left onto Clark, Gracie taped the plexiglass behind the driver's head. "Say, have you ever heard of a 'Slumpbuster?'"...

Crap, it's like you guys are standing outside my apartment building. Scary, scary.

PTBNL
03-25-2006, 06:37 PM
First he tells the world what a slumpbuster is and now this. :angry:
LOL! I'm just not a big believer in letting out clubhouse stuff. EVEN if you are retired. ;)

Red in Chicago
03-25-2006, 06:59 PM
wow, how brave of gracie to come public that he's suspicious of sosa taking steroids...don't go out on a limb there big guy...

"to each his own"...wow, another bold statement:rolleyes:

bunter
03-25-2006, 09:04 PM
Also liked his comment about guys who all of the suddent weren't any good anymore after they started testing. Could he be referring to Bret B.?

big boy
03-25-2006, 09:51 PM
We can speculate all day about steroid users but there is no proof so Sosa gets in the Hall.

KronoRed
03-25-2006, 09:56 PM
Crap, it's like you guys are standing outside my apartment building. Scary, scary.
Close your blinds ;)

Yachtzee
03-26-2006, 10:34 AM
Crap, it's like you guys are standing outside my apartment building. Scary, scary.

My wife lived in Wrigleyville when I met her. You could see the lights of Wrigley Field from her living room window.

westofyou
03-26-2006, 10:57 AM
My wife lived in Wrigleyville when I met her. You could see the lights of Wrigley Field from her living room window.
Nightly they'd stroll to the mercardo in Roscoe Village to get Churros or a Tamarind Jarrito.