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Matt700wlw
03-25-2006, 02:29 PM
...Alex Sanchez (per Marc)

max venable
03-25-2006, 03:15 PM
Player profile: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=4767

harangatang
03-25-2006, 03:19 PM
This is unbelievable, we have another speed guy in the mix with a horrible OBP.

Topcat
03-25-2006, 03:21 PM
It's up on rotoworld to. He is fast lol, thats about it.

MartyFan
03-25-2006, 03:24 PM
Look for a trade of another OF player

OnBaseMachine
03-25-2006, 03:56 PM
I can't wait to see Womack and Sanchez hitting 1-2 in the lineup.

Dunner44
03-25-2006, 04:00 PM
I liked sanchez.... hes so scrappy...

actually, 96 stolen bases in one minor league season is nothing to sneeze at, nor is 50+ in a season in the bigs. If we trade Griff at the deadline, he has the range to play center if his elbow heals well.

RedLegSuperStar
03-25-2006, 04:07 PM
With him and Freel on the pine that is actually not a bad thing. Nothing like having speed to spare in the late innings.

OnBaseMachine
03-25-2006, 04:07 PM
I liked sanchez.... hes so scrappy...

actually, 96 stolen bases in one minor league season is nothing to sneeze at, nor is 50+ in a season in the bigs. If we trade Griff at the deadline, he has the range to play center if his elbow heals well.

He's a horrible hitter(.702 career OPS) with most of his hits being of the infield variety, and despite his speed, he is horrible in centerfield. He should not appear in a game with the Reds this year.

savafan
03-25-2006, 04:10 PM
I feel bad for the fans in Louisville.

Dunner44
03-25-2006, 04:18 PM
He's a horrible hitter(.702 career OPS) with most of his hits being of the infield variety, and despite his speed, he is horrible in centerfield. He should not appear in a game with the Reds this year.

really? I've never seen him play, except as my CF in MLB 2005 ;)

why is it that some people just can't field, and how the crap do they break into the bigs? With speed like his you'd figgure he'd make a DECENT CF at least...

KronoRed
03-25-2006, 04:24 PM
Another guy who can't steal 1st.

Raisor
03-25-2006, 06:13 PM
With him and Freel on the pine that is actually not a bad thing. Nothing like having speed to spare in the late innings.


well, he'll be speedy when he's getting off the field after flying out at least.

Falls City Beer
03-25-2006, 06:25 PM
Speed never slumps :rant2: :owned:

westofyou
03-25-2006, 06:30 PM
Speed never slumps :rant2: :owned:
You can't teach speed.

Branch Rickey

You can't teach a guy to hit, but fast guys can have tidy careers.

Alex Cole
Harry Craft
Omar Moreno
Reggie Taylor

on and on and on and on and on....

Falls City Beer
03-25-2006, 06:32 PM
You can't teach speed.

Branch Rickey

You can't teach a guy to hit, but fast guys can have tidy careers.

Alex Cole
Harry Craft
Omar Moreno
Reggie Taylor

on and on and on and on and on....

Speed knows no season. :obrien:

Falls City Beer
03-25-2006, 06:33 PM
With speed you get eggroll. :birthday:

Falls City Beer
03-25-2006, 06:33 PM
Speed: we're closing in on a killer. :clap:

Falls City Beer
03-25-2006, 06:34 PM
Speed--you can't take it with you. :cry:

M2
03-25-2006, 07:23 PM
IIRC, Sanchez is regarded as one of the worst people in baseball. I've even come to wonder if Cuba demanded he defect.

Newman4
03-25-2006, 08:51 PM
Seasonal Averages (per 162 games played)
YEARS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2.64 162 579 73 171 21 8 2 42 29 88 46 22 .296 .330 .372 .702

His career AVG is .296 with a .330 OBP. He averages 29 (Twenty-freekin-nine!) walks per season in 579 AB. If he learns to be more selective and take some walks then you could have an ELITE leadoff man. In fact if he would take 58 walks instead of 29 then his OBP goes to .377 and I guarantee that extra 29 times on first would put him at 50+ SB. I'll take a flyer.

reds44
03-25-2006, 08:54 PM
It isn't a bad signing. I don't mind it at all actually because we need some depth at the outfield spots.

wheels
03-26-2006, 12:15 AM
It isn't a bad signing. I don't mind it at all actually because we need some depth at the outfield spots.

They already had depth, but they sent it to Louisville.

Slyder
03-26-2006, 12:55 AM
Guys its a MLC hes not even likely going to get a call to the big club at all unless injuries merit and hes probably about 3rd on that list. Plus you never know when you might have someone that another team wants at the deadline.

TC81190
03-26-2006, 05:16 PM
Seasonal Averages (per 162 games played)
YEARS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2.64 162 579 73 171 21 8 2 42 29 88 46 22 .296 .330 .372 .702

His career AVG is .296 with a .330 OBP. He averages 29 (Twenty-freekin-nine!) walks per season in 579 AB. If he learns to be more selective and take some walks then you could have an ELITE leadoff man. In fact if he would take 58 walks instead of 29 then his OBP goes to .377 and I guarantee that extra 29 times on first would put him at 50+ SB. I'll take a flyer.

That's a huge if, though. That's saying, if he doubles his walk rate, he won't suck as bad.

Jr's Boy
03-27-2006, 12:48 AM
He could be a great pinch runner though.

Jpup
03-27-2006, 05:39 AM
He could be a great pinch runner though.

on another team. you can't fill a roster spot with a guy that only pinch runs, especially before September.

westofyou
03-27-2006, 11:31 AM
He could be a great pinch runner though.



Herbert Washington

YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
1974 A's 22 92 0 29 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 29 16
1975 A's 23 13 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
TOTALS 105 0 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 31 17
LG AVERAGE 21 3 6 1 0 0 2.08 2 2 3 0 0 .258 .372 .323 .695

harangatang
03-27-2006, 11:49 AM
Herbert Washington


He even won a world series ring in 1974 despite having 0 ABs, 0 SB, 2 CS.

toledodan
03-27-2006, 01:50 PM
as long as he is clean i like the signing. you can't teach speed and he is a decent hitter. i don't remember much about his defense but i think he will make a fine 5th OF.

flyer85
03-27-2006, 01:53 PM
as long as he is clean i like the signing. you can't teach speed and he is a decent hitter. ... let me correct that, he is an awful hitter who rarely walks and gets a high percentage on hits on infield slappers and bunts(which only advance runners one base). His offensive skills are a mirage along the lines of Womack.

toledodan
03-27-2006, 05:31 PM
... let me correct that, he is an awful hitter who rarely walks and gets a high percentage on hits on infield slappers and bunts(which only advance runners one base). His offensive skills are a mirage along the lines of Womack.




still a .296 lifetime hitter in 1,500 ABS. i wouldn't lead him off or start him but a 5th OF i would take him.

Ravenlord
03-27-2006, 05:32 PM
still a .296 lifetime hitter in 1,500 ABS. i wouldn't lead him off or start him but a 5th OF i would take him.
i like DeWayne Wise better as 5th OF...of course, if Alex Sanchez was the other option, i'd go with Reggie Taylor.

flyer85
03-27-2006, 05:44 PM
still a .296 lifetime hitter in 1,500 ABS. i wouldn't lead him off or start him but a 5th OF i would take him.a perfact example of why batting average can be a completely empty stat. His OBP is .330 and his SLG% is 370. In addition he gets thrown out 30% of the time when he tries to steal. BP did a story on Alex and the most empty BA in majors during his 2004 campaign with the Tigers. The Tigers released a .320 hitter, how could that be?

from the BP article

Fully 20 out of his 65 hits--over 30%--have come without a full swing of the bat. Leading the universe in bunt hits might get Sanchez a lot of press, but it actually diminishes his value, because 99% of bunt hits result in runners advancing only one base. (This explains why, in situations with a man on second base, and no one at third, Sanchez has six hits--and only four RBIs.) Giving Sanchez extra credit because he has so many bunt hits is like giving Barry Bonds extra credit because so many of his walks are intentional.

How overrated is Sanchez as a leadoff hitter? Let's put it this way: he's on pace to finish with 206 hits, and only 79 runs scored. Only three players in major-league history have tallied that many hits, and scored so few runs. And none of them batted leadoff for a team that ranked fifth in the league in runs scored, in an era of high offense.

So to answer the riddle that spawned this unholy column: does Sanchez have the emptiest batting average of all time? By some measures, yes. By some measures, not quite.

But give him time. It's still early.