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CTA513
03-28-2006, 02:03 AM
FORT MYERS, Fla. --The Red Sox are ready for the opening bell. One week before their first regular-season game, excitable reliever Julian Tavarez punched Tampa Bay outfielder Joey Gathright lightly in the jaw Monday during a play at home plate Monday, the latest flareup between the teams.

Players ran from benches and bullpens but no injuries were reported as they clutched opponents and tried to keep their teammates from going after the other side.

The action came one day after Red Sox pitcher Josh Beckett yelled at Philadelphia's Ryan Howard when the right-hander thought the first baseman took too long to watch what he may have thought was a homer but ended up being a long fly out.

Players ran on the field then, too, after Howard went to his spot at first base for the top of the seventh, threw his glove down, looked into Boston's dugout, talked back to Beckett and walked toward him. Beckett was restrained before he stepped back onto the field and no one threw any punches or shoves.

In Boston's 12-11 win, which ended when Hee-Seop Choi walked with the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth, Gathright raced home while Julio Lugo was caught in a rundown between first and second in the eighth. Second baseman Zach Borowiak threw to Tavarez, who tagged Gathright out as the outfielder slid.

Gathright said Tavarez stood on his right forearm after the tag. Tavarez agreed but said he wanted to beat Gathright to the punch.

"I saw him try to get up and I wasn't going to let him throw a punch at me right away," said Tavarez, who threw a second punch on the top of Gathright's head. "You hear about whoever throws the first punch gets the win. That's what happened."

Full Story:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/03/27/tavarez_gathright_ejected_in_exhibition_game/


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KronoRed
03-28-2006, 02:15 AM
How can the D-rays have a rivalry with anyone? ;)

Jpup
03-28-2006, 07:50 AM
How can the D-rays have a rivalry with anyone? ;)

they beat the snot out of Boston and New York, but can't beat anyone else. They have beaten both teams in games that were needed.

RedFanAlways1966
03-28-2006, 08:01 AM
You punch another player during a game, you get a 10-game suspension. That should be a mandatory rule. Punching another player has no place in the game. It has happened many times in the game's history, but IMO a strict suspension should be administered. Then again we are talking about baseball leaders who chose to ignore steroids for a long time. So I won't hold my breath on the punching thing.

Personally I'd be scared to touch Julian Tavarez' face with my fist or anything else. Might get something scary on my fist that will never go away... and it ain't pretty!

blumj
03-28-2006, 08:31 AM
they beat the snot out of Boston and New York, but can't beat anyone else. They have beaten both teams in games that were needed.
That is so not true. The Rays beat the snot out of the Yankees, it's the Blue Jays who always beat the snot out of the Red Sox. But the D-Rays and Red Sox have a history of beanball wars that predates almost everyone currently affilitated with either team, and just seems to keep getting passed along for some reason. I think Julian Tavarez might just be a real crazy person, though.

mound_patrol
03-28-2006, 08:59 AM
anyone else think Tavarez punches like a girl? That was a brutal swing

blumj
03-28-2006, 09:08 AM
But it was his right hand. He may be crazy, but I guess he's not stupid. If he punches the guy for real with his pitching hand, that would be stupid.

mound_patrol
03-28-2006, 09:11 AM
very good point blumj. I always tell our volatile closer on my team that when he fights to punch with his opposite hand. have to protect your goods

Chip R
03-28-2006, 09:55 AM
Personally I'd be scared to touch Julian Tavarez' face with my fist or anything else. Might get something scary on my fist that will never go away... and it ain't pretty!

No kidding. That is one ugly dude.

TOBTTReds
03-28-2006, 10:04 AM
But it was his right hand. He may be crazy, but I guess he's not stupid. If he punches the guy for real with his pitching hand, that would be stupid.

Speaking of dumb, it would have been really stupid if he took his frustration out on the wall and phone of the dugout during the playoffs and broke his pitching hand....oh wait, i guess he sort of learned his lesson

RedsManRick
03-28-2006, 10:10 AM
Was it tavarez who tried to dropkick that guy on the first baseline a few years back?

PTBNL
03-28-2006, 10:59 AM
I heard Gathright spiked him first and the RS will be filing a complaint as well.

scounts22
03-28-2006, 11:01 AM
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This one makes me giggle for some reason.

MartyFan
03-28-2006, 11:07 AM
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This one makes me giggle for some reason.

I love it just because I hate Taveras so freakin bad and he is getting his CLOCK CLEANED...The D-Rays are my #2 team...now, make no mistake they are not contending for the division but they will be able to put a hurt on the Yankees, Sox, Jays and O's this season...they will have a say in who wins and loses that division.

MrCinatit
03-28-2006, 11:09 AM
But it was his right hand. He may be crazy, but I guess he's not stupid. If he punches the guy for real with his pitching hand, that would be stupid.

this also could mean his catcher in the minors was Crash Davis.

scounts22
03-28-2006, 11:10 AM
I love it just because I hate Taveras so freakin bad and he is getting his CLOCK CLEANED...The D-Rays are my #2 team...now, make no mistake they are not contending for the division but they will be able to put a hurt on the Yankees, Sox, Jays and O's this season...they will have a say in who wins and loses that division.


Yeah, I know what you mean. I hated him with a passion when he was with the Indians. I laughed out loud when they showed him crying in the dugout after the final game of World Series games when the Indians lost in whatever year it was. :evil:

Roy Tucker
03-28-2006, 11:11 AM
I think they need to put decaf coffee in the Red Sox dugout for the next few games.

Johnny Footstool
03-28-2006, 11:13 AM
anyone else think Tavarez punches like a girl? That was a brutal swing

Agreed.

If you're going to punch someone, do it right. If you do it wrong, you're not going to hurt them, you're going to mess up your hand, and you're still going to have to face the consequences of starting a fight.


I heard Gathright spiked him first and the RS will be filing a complaint as well.

The first picture in the sequence shows that Gathright's feet are nowhere near Tavarez.

MartyFan
03-28-2006, 11:17 AM
anyone else think Tavarez punches like a girl? That was a brutal swing

Yes I do think he punches like a girl...but I got blamed for that too...so I didn't say anything.

IslandRed
03-28-2006, 11:47 AM
Maybe it's more clear from other angles, but...


Gathright said Tavarez stood on his right forearm after the tag. Tavarez agreed but said he wanted to beat Gathright to the punch.

"I saw him try to get up and I wasn't going to let him throw a punch at me right away," said Tavarez, who threw a second punch on the top of Gathright's head. "You hear about whoever throws the first punch gets the win. That's what happened."

It was a tag-out at the plate. Why would you assume the runner's going to get up and start throwing punches?

Chip R
03-28-2006, 12:07 PM
I heard Gathright spiked him first and the RS will be filing a complaint as well.

If he spiked him in the face, how could they tell the difference?

M2
03-28-2006, 04:24 PM
I've seen the clip a few times now and it seems pretty clear that Tavarez stepped on Gathright, then took offense when Gathright tried to push the foot off his arm and then cold-cocked the guy. I think it would be sad if Gathright had to pay a fine or serve a suspension. All he was guilty of doing was playing baseball in the vicinity of a grade A buttswipe.