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savafan
03-28-2006, 02:52 PM
It is starting to look like the Indians may try to trade Broussard, or perhaps even release him. They are said to be considering playing Hafner at first, or perhaps even moving Aaron Boone to first and bring up Andy Marte to play third.

Would Broussard be an upgrade over Hatteberg? He's definately younger.

Joseph
03-28-2006, 02:58 PM
He and Arroyo could start a band.....

just saying.

max venable
03-28-2006, 03:03 PM
Can't imagine them releasing him. No way. Where are you hearing this?

flyer85
03-28-2006, 03:04 PM
The stuff I read was that Broussard is likely to platoon with Perez. I don't see a DH replacement for Hafner.

Joseph
03-28-2006, 03:08 PM
They were actually just discussing this on XM a few segments ago. Not the release, but that Hafner was going to be playing more 1B this season.

savafan
03-28-2006, 03:10 PM
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16386759&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46370&rfi=6

In case you missed it, the Tigers Sunday released first baseman Carlos Pena, who hit .235 with 18 home runs and 44 RBIs last year and is making $2.8 million this year. Those stats and salary are almost identical to Broussard, who hit .255 with 19 home runs and 68 RBIs, and will make $2.5 million this year. That's a lot of money for a below average run producer playing a run-producing position. It would not be a surprise for the Indians to explore trade options for Broussard, or even go so far as to release him.

max venable
03-28-2006, 03:13 PM
FWIW, I'd take Broussard over Hatteberg. And I'd take Pena over Broussard. But that's just me.

flyer85
03-28-2006, 03:16 PM
Broussard has a little more power, a little better defense and little less plate discipline. I honestly have no clue what the Reds have in mind.

PECOTA prefers Broussard 9.4 VORP to -4 for Hatteberg

BRM
03-28-2006, 03:18 PM
I honestly have no clue what the Reds have in mind.


Giving Hatteberg 500 at-bats.

BRM
03-28-2006, 03:19 PM
PECOTA prefers Broussard 9.4 VORP to -4 for Hatteberg

Does Hatterberg project to be the worst everyday first baseman in MLB?

flyer85
03-28-2006, 03:23 PM
Does Hatterberg project to be the worst everyday first baseman in MLB?I don't think there is any doubt about that.

BRM
03-28-2006, 03:28 PM
I don't think there is any doubt about that.

As long as he offsets that with great defense...

flyer85
03-28-2006, 03:32 PM
As long as he offsets that with great defense...Supposedly he offsets his bad offense with poor defense.

roby
03-28-2006, 03:33 PM
Even if he is the worst 1st baseman in baseball...he will have Tony Womack standing nearby at 2nd base to help him out! :bang:

Eric_Davis
03-28-2006, 03:35 PM
Broussard is the weakest link. It only makes sense to try to trade him.

Heath
03-28-2006, 03:38 PM
Maybe we can trade Russell Branyan back to Cleveland...

I'm in favor of Broussard. Can't be worse than what's out there now.

I'm becoming more at peace with Tony Womack at 2nd. The reason is that there is no way he can last past May 1.

Pastor Rusty
03-28-2006, 03:38 PM
I'm not thrilled with Hatteberg at 1st, but we have not had a dominant first baseman in some time. I loved Casey, he was my favorite Red, but he was just an average player who hit for average. He worked hard on defense, but was never great. Could Aurilla be an everyday 1st baseman? His bat is better and I have a much easier time seeing him on an every day basis.

flyer85
03-28-2006, 03:41 PM
Even if he is the worst 1st baseman in baseball...he will have Tony Womack standing nearby at 2nd base to help him out! :bang:... or to make him look good by comparison

Guacarock
03-28-2006, 04:06 PM
Why not trade the Tribe Womack for Broussard?

Broussard's streaky and hardly a panacea at 1B, but nominally an improvement over Hatteberg, offering better defense and more clout (.464 SLG in 2005 vs. .343 SLG in roughly the same number of at bats, 466 vs. 464). Being six years younger, you also have to hope Broussard would be a little more durable and able to hold up all season long.

I wouldn't drop Hatteberg -- just move him to where he rightfully belongs -- the bench -- given his age and his declining offense. Besides, keeping him is good insurance for whenever Broussard gets streaky and needs a competitive goose.

This trade would be a baby step, but still a thing of beauty -- improving two positions simultaneously, while costing us very little moolah. Broussard represents a 1B upgrade over Hatteberg, while likewise, Aurilia or Freel are better 2B options than Womack.

One caveat: If we could get Petagine for a song and prayer, I don't know that I'd bother with Broussard and his $2.5 million salary. Of course, if Broussard were the key to shipping off Womack, then the difference between $2.5 million and $2 million is but a small price to pay.

MartyFan
03-28-2006, 04:30 PM
FWIW, I'd take Broussard over Hatteberg. And I'd take Pena over Broussard. But that's just me.

I agree

flyer85
03-28-2006, 04:33 PM
Why not trade the Tribe Womack for Broussard?
I don't think there is another GM in baseball dumb enough to trade for Womack but we can always hope.

Eric_Davis
03-28-2006, 04:34 PM
We don't have anything Cleveland would want for Broussard. They're looking to "upgrade" from Broussard, so how can we help them?

Highlifeman21
03-28-2006, 04:34 PM
Maybe we can trade Russell Branyan back to Cleveland...

I'm in favor of Broussard. Can't be worse than what's out there now.

I'm becoming more at peace with Tony Womack at 2nd. The reason is that there is no way he can last past May 1.


Ah yes, the infamous let's send Ben Broussard to Cleveland for Russell Branyan. Ironic if we'd get Broussard back after the fact. I hate to say it, but I'm a fan of both Broussard and Branyan and wish we would have kept Branyan as our everyday 3B and had Broussard as our everyday 1B. That's right, I said it.

KronoRed
03-28-2006, 04:46 PM
I don't think there is another GM in baseball dumb enough to trade for Womack but we can always hope.
Dan O is working for the brewers now, we should try them.

Red Leader
03-28-2006, 04:56 PM
Why not trade the Tribe Womack for Broussard?
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Because Womack is an All-Star in the NL. The AL? Not so much.;)

PTBNL
03-28-2006, 05:00 PM
Was I asleep? Isn't Branyan in Tampa now? Or is this a past inside joke that I am missing out on?! ;)

Raisor
03-28-2006, 05:08 PM
You people are having a Ben Broussard conversation, without ME?????


A pox on all of you!

KronoRed
03-28-2006, 05:11 PM
Bender? :dunno:

Heath
03-28-2006, 05:12 PM
You people are having a Ben Broussard conversation, without ME?????


A pox on all of you!

Well, we can't help it if you are in handcuffs all the time, or wearing your invisible collar giving you a slight correction every time you try to dial up redszone.com. Married life is fun, ain't it?

And whatever you do in your dwelling, stays there... :D

Aronchis
03-28-2006, 05:12 PM
The return of Broussard, a dream come true!!!