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savafan
04-01-2006, 08:43 PM
http://fantasybaseball.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=MLB&leaguenum=&id=1366

Blue Jays designated RHP Vince Perkins for assignment.
Rather than Ryan Houston or John Hattig? Hattig is still sort of interesting, but he's a 26-year-old third baseman and we can't imagine the Jays will have room for him any year soon. Houston has never been much of a prospect. We'd be very surprised if Perkins went unclaimed. It'd be a high price to pay just to get Brian Tallet on the roster for two weeks.

The action on Perkins' heavy 93-96 sinking fastball has been linkened to a bowling ball and its a true out pitch. he throws a hard 86-87 slider and a developing changeup with high marks for mound presence and makeup.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/vince-perkins.shtml

TC81190
04-01-2006, 08:52 PM
:eek: Get him. Now. Now. Now. Now.

captainmorgan07
04-01-2006, 09:01 PM
if im wayne im on the phone right now with his agent don't let anybody jump infront of u on this one

Gallen5862
04-01-2006, 09:04 PM
Let's get him now. This would be an incredible pickup.

RedsIn07
04-01-2006, 09:12 PM
A little bit of info on him:
http://bluejays.scout.com/2/489804.html

OnBaseMachine
04-01-2006, 09:16 PM
24 years old, 6-5 and 225 pounds, fastball in the the mid 90's with two other solid pitches, keeps the ball in the yard, and misses bats. Sign him now Wayne and stick him in Louisville. Also wouldn't mind them picking up Kaz Tadano for the bullpen.

The scouting report says he needs to work on his changeup. Sign him and put him at Louisville and let Mario Soto work with him on that changeup. Arms like this are not available everyday. Wayne needs to jump all over this one.

flyer85
04-01-2006, 09:34 PM
doubt he will pass thru waivers

dougdirt
04-01-2006, 09:36 PM
exactly how does the waiver wire work?
I know every team gets a chance to claim a guy, but how does the order work? Record last year?

IslandRed
04-01-2006, 10:05 PM
If he's DFA, he's not on waivers yet. The DFA gets the guy off the roster right away but gives the team a window to work out a trade before he goes on waivers.

On the waivers themselves, right now I think it's based on last year's record, and it goes by league -- all AL clubs will get a crack at him before any NL club does. Which means we'd probably have to work out a trade with the Blue Jays to get him, which means making the best offer... don't know what that would take.

Az. Reds Fan
04-01-2006, 10:06 PM
I would imagine, since he was DFA, some team would probably trade for him before he hit the waiver wire...assuming he is as good as advertised.

Who would you be willing to give up to get him?

NatiRedGals
04-01-2006, 10:47 PM
Wouldnt be surprised to wake up in the morning wow we signed a new guy !!!:eek: And if you do heres to you Wayne:beerme:

Chip R
04-01-2006, 11:09 PM
I would imagine, since he was DFA, some team would probably trade for him before he hit the waiver wire...assuming he is as good as advertised.

Who would you be willing to give up to get him?

I would not trade the following infielders for him:

Ryan Freel
Scott Hatteberg
Felipe Lopez
Ed Encarnacion
Rich Aurilia
Andy Abad

That is all. :D

doug flynn
04-02-2006, 12:13 AM
Wayne doesn't seem to covet hard throwers...who can't throw strikes.

edabbs44
04-02-2006, 12:17 AM
Wayne needs to make some of these moves. This guy Perkins would be a no-risk/high-reward move. Still in awe over the Choi debacle and still hoping for a Carlos Pena signing.

OnBaseMachine
04-02-2006, 03:05 AM
Another good young arm is available as the Mariners have designated RHP Marcos Carvajal for assignment.

Marcos Carvajal - R - Mariners

Mariners designated RHP Marcos Carvajal for assignment.
We're stunned. Carvajal, a 21-year-old reliever picked up from the Rockies for Yorvit Torrealba, has the potential to become an excellent reliever, and he has options remaining. Maybe a trade is on the way, because he was hardly the most expendable player on the Mariners' roster. Apr. 1 - 10:55 pm et

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/marcos-carvajal.shtml

Only 21 years old, Carvajal is 6-4 and only 165 pounds. His body frame suggests he has plenty of room to fill out and maybe gain a few mph on his mid-90's fastball. He compliments his fastball with an improved slider and a changeup. 2003 Baseball America scouting report on Marcos: Carvajal touches 97 mph and sits in the low 90s with good movement. His slider is below-average at this point, though his feel for a changeup is encouraging.

This is another guy I think Krivsky should target. The potential is there for Wayne to improve the pitching of this club by acquiring Vince Perkins and Carvajal, and for a relatively cheap price too. Make us proud Wayne.

KronoRed
04-02-2006, 03:19 AM
We should claim as many arms under 25 as possible, ya never know.

Caveat Emperor
04-02-2006, 03:22 AM
This would be a fantastic opportunity to try and move some one of the "Dan O'Brien Specials" from the minor leagues: Germano, Chick or Lizard.

I don't forsee Germano or Elizardo becoming anything of use to the major league ballclub due to both lacking strong velocity and an "out" pitch to use at the next level. Chick is a little bit more projectible, but as a bullpen arm only, and that's only if he gets his act together this year at Chattanooga.

Perkins intrigues me more of the two, due to the good writeup on his sinking fastball. Despite being a sinkerball pitcher, he still Ks at an OK rate (7.59 in AA last year), and has fewer hits than IP -- which is probably a good sign that he induces bad contact, given the defensive deficencies that are more prevalent in the low-minors (either that, or he's incredibly BABIP lucky). However, his walk totals are slightly alarming: 51 free passes in 131 IPs last year. It was his first year at AA, though.

I'd say it's a good risk for the Reds to take at the right price. Throw him down at Chatty and see what happens -- when your farm system is as barren as the Reds is from AA up, this is the kind of player you need to be targeting.

Tommyjohn25
04-02-2006, 03:33 AM
Yeah...go get him...now. Do it. DO IT!!

Oh my god why am I still awake....:help:

Nugget
04-02-2006, 06:05 AM
If the REDS did trade for him prior to him going on the waiver wire I don't think they could stick at Louisville so wouldn't that mean picking which pitcher goes?

I believe that on top of the waiver wire order teams in the same league also get preference.

Topcat
04-02-2006, 07:11 AM
Did the Reds not get 1.5 mill in the Pena deal? That to me makes this perfect Gamble money for the dbl aa and triple aaa aquisitions, grab and poach away Mr. Krivsky. If you find 3 out of 10 serviceable ML players you are doing very well :beerme:

Mario-Rijo
04-02-2006, 07:27 AM
Did the Reds not get 1.5 mill in the Pena deal? That to me makes this perfect Gamble money for the dbl aa and triple aaa aquisitions, grab and poach away Mr. Krivsky. If you find 3 out of 10 serviceable ML players you are doing very well


That money was to make up the difference between what Arroyo and Pena's salary so we didn't spend anymore than we have budgeted for the year at this point! But does a guy like Sardinha make some sense to deal here for Perkins, I think so given Dane's situation coupled with the fact that Toronto is likely to be missing Zaun for a time w/ an injury I believe. Dane could give them some depth at the position for a short time.

Doc. Scott
04-02-2006, 11:47 PM
Instead we sign Darrell May, a guy who's got a dog-eared poster of Eric Milton in Twins finery on his bedroom wall.

Would I trade something for either Perkins or Carvajal? Sure. I've got this catcher who's the BEST DEFENSIVE CATCHER EVER...

Mario-Rijo
04-03-2006, 01:49 AM
Instead we sign Darrell May, a guy who's got a dog-eared poster of Eric Milton in Twins finery on his bedroom wall.

:laugh: I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there!

Javy Pornstache
04-06-2006, 05:05 PM
Bringing this thread back because we were talking about Vince Perkins and Marcos Carvajal in it. I've heard nothing new on Perkins, but it looks like Tampa Bay worked a trade with Seattle to get Carvajal, and released Jesus Colome to make room for him - who himself would be another intriguing arm to look at for Cincy if he's healthy.

BRM
04-06-2006, 05:14 PM
SEATTLE -- The Seattle Mariners acquired Class A pitcher Jose De La Cruz from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays on Thursday for Marcos Carvajal in a swap of right-handers.

The 22-year-old De La Cruz was 3-6 with a 3.94 ERA and 19 saves in 50 games for Class-A Southwest Michigan in 2005. The Devil Rays signed him in 2002.

Seattle had designated 21-year-old Carvajal for assignment last week. He allowed eight runs in 2 1-3 innings during spring training. The Mariners acquired him from Colorado for catcher Yorvit Torrealba in December.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/2010AP_BBA_Mariners_Devil_Rays_Trade.html

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2006, 10:58 AM
Any updates on Perkins? I hope Krivsky doesn't let a good young live arm like Perkins clear waivers. Sign this guy, assign him to Louisville and let Soto teach him that changeup.

NatiRedGals
04-09-2006, 11:07 AM
Ill check for ya brb:)

Javy Pornstache
04-12-2006, 03:17 PM
So, Milwaukee wound up getting Perkins. Another great move by Doug Melvin.

OnBaseMachine
04-12-2006, 03:19 PM
Doug Melvin is a great GM. He'll have that team competing for playoff spots every year for the next 5-10 years.

Meanwhile, Krivsky sits on his butt while a great looking arms passes through waivers.

flyer85
04-18-2006, 12:18 PM
Reds asleep at the wheel again.

Nice pickup by the Brew Crew.

Topcat
04-18-2006, 11:38 PM
Noticed the perkins signing by Brew Crew thew other day, dang that burned my onions. imagine Tadana, Perkins and Caraval in the Red's pen! It might have its rough moments, but atleast you could hope for some progression, unlike the fantasy camp reunion of players from a bygone era, that exists presently:bang: