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Sham
04-03-2006, 10:14 AM
Anyone know if Gruler is ever going to pitch again? Thanks to anyone who can help me out.

flyer85
04-03-2006, 10:36 AM
Likely to pitch, doubtful he will ever have success after all the surgeries.

tbball10
04-03-2006, 01:57 PM
in a very recent dayton article it says he may join the dragons as early as the end of april. I'll try to find the link.

Sham
04-03-2006, 02:12 PM
Thanks guys. Wonder how hard he can throw now. We'll see.

Doc. Scott
04-03-2006, 02:15 PM
Last year his velocity had sunk to the mid-eighties, I think, which is why he didn't actually get activated. It was still only a year or so post-surgery, so more should have returned by now. We can hope.

Red Heeler
04-03-2006, 02:34 PM
Last year his velocity had sunk to the mid-eighties, I think, which is why he didn't actually get activated. It was still only a year or so post-surgery, so more should have returned by now. We can hope.

Does a year off due to injury count toward Rule 5 elegibility?

flyer85
04-03-2006, 02:38 PM
Does a year off due to injury count toward Rule 5 elegibility?does it matter? (I believe missing seasons dues to injury does push it back)

Doc. Scott
04-03-2006, 02:44 PM
Does a year off due to injury count toward Rule 5 elegibility?

Yes. Rule 5 eligibility is determined simply from the time the player was drafted, not his "service time". But I think minor-league free agency may be determined from service time the way major-league FAs are.

I'm pretty sure about the first part, a little less sure about the second.

dougflynn23
04-03-2006, 07:11 PM
:( Every time I see Scott Kazmir show up in the box scores, I shed a tear.

EX BRAVEDAD
04-03-2006, 07:32 PM
Kazmir would be where Gruler is if they were flip floped the Reds have wonderful player development as far as pitchers go

ochre
04-03-2006, 08:00 PM
Kazmir would be where Gruler is if they were flip floped the Reds have wonderful player development as far as pitchers go
That's what a lot of us have thought for a while. Can you give any more details, or is it still not time for that?

Doc. Scott
04-03-2006, 08:03 PM
Kazmir would be where Gruler is if they were flip floped the Reds have wonderful player development as far as pitchers go

Hey, I should mention- I might get to see Bubba pitch this year in Portland. Where'd the Padres put him?

tbball10
04-04-2006, 12:28 AM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/reds/daily/0402bruce.htm

EX BRAVEDAD
04-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Ithink I will wait a while before I let the cat out of the bag. Player development can someone tell me what that is can someone tell the Reds? Oh sorry teams that win 14 division titles they know player development.

Doc. Scott
04-05-2006, 02:43 AM
Ithink I will wait a while before I let the cat out of the bag. Player development can someone tell me what that is can someone tell the Reds? Oh sorry teams that win 14 division titles they know player development.

Can't argue there... unless you're talking about the 1970s.