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fisch11
04-04-2006, 07:26 PM
I live in Northeast Ohio, Canton/Akron area so of course the Indians are always on. I have Time Warner cable and recently they didn't renew a deal with the Indians, instead signing a new deal with Sportstime Ohio. So logically, the Reds would start being broadcasted up here on FSN Ohio right? Wrong. I contacted Time Warner and they can only put in a request from me until the company decides to pick up the coverage. So my other options are Extra Innings through TWC (about 60 games subject to blackout for about $130 or so) and MLB.TV for about $80. I was wondering if anybody has experienced the MLB.TV and if it is a better deal than the Extra Innings...i.e. how many games could I get, blackouts, quality, and so on. I'm also trying to figure out a way to produce mass requests to TWC for Reds coverage up here with an online petition or something. Anybody have any suggestions? Somebody please save me from the Tribe and that stupid drum guy.

ed the red
04-04-2006, 07:30 PM
the Reds would only be blacked out in your area if they are considered your home market team. . I believe the Indians are, therefore all of the Reds games would be televised. I believe over 130 games this year.

Reds Fanatic
04-04-2006, 07:37 PM
I have a feeling you might be blacked out on Extra Innings. I know where I live we are blacked out on Reds, Indians and Tigers games on Extra Innings. Extra Innings is on a free preview week this week from April 3rd through April 9th so turn on the games and you can see if you are blacked out on Reds games.

Reds Fanatic
04-04-2006, 07:49 PM
If you want to know if you are blacked out of Reds games on MLB.TV go to the following page at the bottom of the page you can pick your team and it will list zip codes that are blacked out from receiving those games.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/subscriptions/mlbtv.jsp

Yachtzee
04-04-2006, 08:52 PM
I was never blacked out up here in Akron for the Reds on Extra Innings (I had it through Time Warner), but I don't know about Canton. I now get FSO through Direct TV and they will show the special programming for the Reds, having shown "Reds Week" before the season started. However, they've shown the Cleveland feed of FSO for the games, which means bowling or World Series of Poker. It may be that Akron/Canton are prohibited from showing Reds games through the "local" carrier because we're so close to the Cleveland home market.

fisch11
04-04-2006, 10:51 PM
Thanks for the help. I wouldn't be blacked out on MLB.TV, which doesn't seem like a bad deal. Extra Innings won't deliver as many games as that. Appreciate the advice.

James B.
04-04-2006, 11:01 PM
The reds are my home team and I live in Tennessee. I can't watch them on extra innings or MLB.TV.

Yachtzee
04-04-2006, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the help. I wouldn't be blacked out on MLB.TV, which doesn't seem like a bad deal. Extra Innings won't deliver as many games as that. Appreciate the advice.

If I may ask, why are you blacked out for Extra Innings and not MLB.TV? (Did you get some sort of explanation on the EI blackout?) I always thought the blackout rules are the same. When I had it, I was only blacked out for the games where the Reds played the Indians.

Yachtzee
04-04-2006, 11:42 PM
The reds are my home team and I live in Tennessee. I can't watch them on extra innings or MLB.TV.

I don't know if you have satellite TV, but this is a question I've always had. If you are considered to be in a particular team's market and the regional sports network that broadcasts that team's games is not part of your package, can you buy the Regional Sports Package (giving you all the regional sports networks in the country) and get the team's broadcasts that way?

I've always wondered what happens to those people who live in areas considered to be the home market for multiple teams. If they can't get those games through Extra Innings or MLB.TV because of the blackout rules, does that mean that they aren't blacked out on their respective regional sports network? It seems counterproductive to deem people part of a team's market area and not give them some way of viewing the games.

MasonBuzz3
04-04-2006, 11:44 PM
i live in canton and have had mlb.tv for the past three years. the reds are only blacked out when they are playing the indians

redram
04-05-2006, 12:09 AM
I don't know if you have satellite TV, but this is a question I've always had. If you are considered to be in a particular team's market and the regional sports network that broadcasts that team's games is not part of your package, can you buy the Regional Sports Package (giving you all the regional sports networks in the country) and get the team's broadcasts that way?

I've always wondered what happens to those people who live in areas considered to be the home market for multiple teams. If they can't get those games through Extra Innings or MLB.TV because of the blackout rules, does that mean that they aren't blacked out on their respective regional sports network? It seems counterproductive to deem people part of a team's market area and not give them some way of viewing the games.

I also live in Tn and the Reds were one of 3 home teams here. The Braves and Cards being the other 2. I was blacked out on Extra Innings for Reds games but I bought the sports pkg for 12.00 per month and I get the games on channel 638 FS Cin. Now, saying that, I received a post card in the mail from DTV telling this year the Red's are no longer considered a home team here and I can only get the games by buying Extra Innings. MLB.TV still considers the Red's our home team as does TIme Warner cable. The game came on in the clear on DTV Monday but was blacked out on my cable. I am still waiting to see if Sundays game comes on in the clear. This game is not being shown by the Red's Fox Sports Network but is being shown by the Pirates. If it is clear then that means DTV has opted to lift the Reds from being a Home team in Memphis Tn. Also when I called MLB.TV, the rep told me that DTV could have worked out a deal with MLB to drop some teams from being home teams. Why would the Reds be a Home team in Memphis anyway. Cinn is about 500 miles away, but then again so is Atlanta. This blackout crap is for the birds IMO. I can see if you live within so 60 -75 miles of a city but 500 miles. Give me a break. If I could have gotten all the Reds games in the past I would have gladly shelled out the bucks to do so. It seems to me MLB is costing themselves and the Sat and cable companys money by having these blackouts as they have them now.
I will let you know on Sunday what happens. If it is blacked out then I guess I am S.O.L. for getting The Red's games this year. If I have to buy the Extra Innings Pkg and only get the games that are shown on The Reds Network that IMHO SUCKS Donkey Doooo :thumbdown Here's hoping it's in the clear Sunday and I get to see em all. :beerme: :beerme:

RBA
04-05-2006, 12:31 AM
I'm in El Paso and my home teams are the Texas Rangers and Houston Astros. Phoenix is 6 to 7 hours away and Houston/Dallas are 10 hours plus and another time zone away. But the Diamondbacks are out of Market.

Caveat Emperor
04-05-2006, 12:41 AM
All I know is that I'm getting totally screwed here in Toledo.

The local cable company used to be really cool about showing the Reds, even when the Indians were also playing. They'd put the FSN Cincinnati feed over one of the "Shop at Home" channels for the duration of the game. But, since the Indians went nutty in the offseason, the cable company took FSN Ohio off the lineup and struck a deal to show just Indians games. Now, no more Reds games.

MLB.TV considers Toledo a Reds blackout zone, so I can't watch that way either. It's absolutely ridiculous. Major League Baseball should be bending over backwards to ensure that as many people can watch and follow the sport, not forcing fans to find odd and strange ways to watch games.

BCubb2003
04-05-2006, 01:01 AM
Direct TV says its uses the ZIP codes that MLB uses.

Somebody with skills should take all these factors, DirectTV, MLB, EI, ESPN Sunday nights and Wednesday nights, FOX Saturday day games and set it up so you can type in your ZIP code and it'll show what's blacked out.

Yachtzee
04-05-2006, 01:31 AM
All I know is that I'm getting totally screwed here in Toledo.

The local cable company used to be really cool about showing the Reds, even when the Indians were also playing. They'd put the FSN Cincinnati feed over one of the "Shop at Home" channels for the duration of the game. But, since the Indians went nutty in the offseason, the cable company took FSN Ohio off the lineup and struck a deal to show just Indians games. Now, no more Reds games.

MLB.TV considers Toledo a Reds blackout zone, so I can't watch that way either. It's absolutely ridiculous. Major League Baseball should be bending over backwards to ensure that as many people can watch and follow the sport, not forcing fans to find odd and strange ways to watch games.

That stinks. I lived in BG in the Sportschannel days. I can remember getting Reds on the main Sportschannel station and the Indians on an alt. channel. We could also get the Tigers on PASS. Couple that with the Cubs on WGN and the Braves on TBS (before Turner South came into the picture) and there was plenty of baseball on TV.

westofyou
04-05-2006, 01:35 AM
Direct TV says its uses the ZIP codes that MLB uses.

Somebody with skills should take all these factors, DirectTV, MLB, EI, ESPN Sunday nights and Wednesday nights, FOX Saturday day games and set it up so you can type in your ZIP code and it'll show what's blacked out.
This was in a BP chat.


Brent (Raleigh, NC): In North Carolina right now, the Nats-Mets game is being blacked out on ESPN b/c we're considered to be Nat's "territory." Of course, there is no other way to watch Nats games since (unlike the Orioles, our other "home" team) they have no TV station down here, so basically the result is that you never see them play unless you make a trip to RFK. I hear the same is true even for DC residents. Do you have any thoughts on this situation?

Nate Silver: It's tragic, but I don't see the situation persisting for too much longer, particularly once baseball gets the chance to renegotiate its TV contracts. Blackouts are about as outdated as Betamax.

Which leads to the question... when does MLB's contract come up again?

Jpup
04-05-2006, 08:48 AM
This was in a BP chat.



Which leads to the question... when does MLB's contract come up again?


if we only knew. blackouts are products of the devil.

redram
04-05-2006, 01:46 PM
Ok The Reds game is on in the clear on channel 734 on DTV. In the past with the Reds being a home team for me in Memphis Tn this game would be blacked out. The Cubs and ESPN and the only affiliates that are showning todays games as far as I can tell. I guess that does mean that DTV has removed the Reds as a home team for the Memphis area, even though they are still blacked out on Time warner cable and MLB.TV. Anybody out there as confused as me right now ??? :)

RedFanAlways1966
04-05-2006, 01:49 PM
Well... glad I wasted a 1/2 day to WATCH the game. I am not as mad at MLB as I am The Dayton Daily News. I saw in this paper that the REDS were on ESPN. They need to pull their heads out of their "ink-wells" and give factual information to the public.

Two-bit rag... GRRRR! :angry:

Ravenlord
04-05-2006, 02:16 PM
since i don't have a high enough cable package at home to get ESPN or FSN for that matter, i drove to the northern lands this morning to watch the game with my dad...only for it to be blacked out...maybe i'll actually get to watch a Reds game this yaer...

fisch11
04-05-2006, 05:35 PM
If I may ask, why are you blacked out for Extra Innings and not MLB.TV? (Did you get some sort of explanation on the EI blackout?) I always thought the blackout rules are the same. When I had it, I was only blacked out for the games where the Reds played the Indians.

I found out from FSN Ohio that MLB has a blackout on my region, thus bowling and WSOP instead of Reds up here. As far as Extar Innings, I'm not quite sure. Time Warner told me I would only get about 60 games or so....so I'm not sure what that means really. I understand why MLB had the blackout up here when the Indians WERE on FSN, but not now that they are on their own channel. It wouldn't be invading on the Cleveland market if the Reds were on FSN now.

toledodan
04-05-2006, 08:53 PM
All I know is that I'm getting totally screwed here in Toledo.

The local cable company used to be really cool about showing the Reds, even when the Indians were also playing. They'd put the FSN Cincinnati feed over one of the "Shop at Home" channels for the duration of the game. But, since the Indians went nutty in the offseason, the cable company took FSN Ohio off the lineup and struck a deal to show just Indians games. Now, no more Reds games.

MLB.TV considers Toledo a Reds blackout zone, so I can't watch that way either. It's absolutely ridiculous. Major League Baseball should be bending over backwards to ensure that as many people can watch and follow the sport, not forcing fans to find odd and strange ways to watch games.



yep buckeye cable dropped fox ohio all together. the indians leaving fox ohio screwed the reds fans in this area. with all the tiger fans in this area buckeye felt it no longer needed fox ohio. thank GOD i have directv.