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NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 11:25 AM
Welcome Only an hour and half to go!!!:eek: :beerme:

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Harang was roughed up for nine runs (six earned) and nine hits over five innings in Monday's 16-7 Opening Day loss to the Cubs. On a blustery day, the right-hander quickly fell into a 5-0 first inning hole but temporarily recovered. He retired 10 of 11 batters at one point but couldn't get an out in a sixth inning, when Chicago added seven runs. Lifetime vs. Pittsburgh, Harang is 5-2 with a 4.27 ERA -- including 1-1 with a 3.46 ERA in two games last season.

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Perez looked much like the staff ace of 2004 during his Opening Day start against the Brewers. The southpaw held Milwaukee to one run on three hits in 5 1/3 innings by skillfully mixing in his splitter and slider with a fastball that topped out at 92 mph. He had nine strikeouts in the outing, including seven strikeouts among the final 10 batters he faced. Perez went 1-0 in four starts against the Reds in 2005, but allowed 20 hits, 12 earned runs and 16 walks in 16 1/3 innings.

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 11:54 AM
I'll be watching. Let's make it 4 in a row!

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 11:55 AM
SWEET! Lets do it! Im gonna make a lineup with pictures soon as the lineups are posted ! :)

cincy09
04-08-2006, 11:55 AM
Lineups out yet?

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 11:56 AM
Nope just floridas and nym game at the moment !:(

indyred
04-08-2006, 12:03 PM
nice weather today i hope........do the reds just wear the all red jerseys on Sunday's.........

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:04 PM
Yep im going tommrow so gonna be sweet :)

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 12:06 PM
I may talk wife into wanting to go tomorrow. We kinda hen peck our way to 5 or so games every season.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:06 PM
Pittsburgh

C. Duffy cf
J. Wilson ss
S. Casey 1b
J. Bay lf
J. Burnitz rf
F. Sanchez 3b
J. Castillo 2b
H. Cota c
O. Perez p


Cincinnati

:freel: 2b
:felo: ss
:griffey: cf
:aurilia: 1b
:dunn: lf
:ede: 3b
:kearns: rf
:valentin: c
:harang: p

Buckeye33
04-08-2006, 12:06 PM
Pirates:

1. Duffy CF
2. Wilson SS
3. Casey 1B
4. Bay LF
5. Burnitz RF
6. Sanchez 3B
7. Castillo 2B
8. COta C
9. Perez P

Reds:

1. Freel 2B
2. Lopez SS
3. Griffey CF
4. Aurilia 1B
5. Dunn LF
6. Encarnacion 3B
7. Kearns RF
8. Valentin C
9. Harang P

GO Richie! GO Richie!

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:07 PM
Beat ya Buckeye :) LOL

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 12:10 PM
Can we have a pool on the Tony Womack quote?

I'm guessing its something like this,

"Tony didn't get traded for minor league slop to come sit the bench."

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:10 PM
brb gonna get some pics for pits players

RedsIn07
04-08-2006, 12:10 PM
Aurillia batting cleanup again? :bang:

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:11 PM
Sad i know :( heh brb getting Pits pic still will post updated list :)

DoogMinAmo
04-08-2006, 12:18 PM
Aurillia batting cleanup again? :bang:


The only logical explanation is shining him up for a trade. Too bad he isn't obliging.

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 12:21 PM
The only logical explanation is shining him up for a trade. Too bad he isn't obliging.

nah, it's breaking up the lefties....

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:25 PM
Pittsburgh

C. Duffy cf http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/397/ph4346594eq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
J. Wilson ss http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/6149/ph3332920kk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
S. Casey 1b http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/7617/ph1120873ca.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
J. Bay lf http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/6629/ph4247260yt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
J. Burnitz rf http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2790/ph1117420wp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
F. Sanchez 3b http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/1662/ph4081085xf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
J. Castillo 2b http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/9996/ph4254891go.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
H. Cota c http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1908/ph2765219nu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
O. Perez p http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4576/4241440yf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Cincinnati

:freel: 2b
:felo: ss
:griffey: cf
:aurilia: 1b
:dunn: lf
:ede: 3b
:kearns: rf
:valentin: c
:harang: p

Tornon
04-08-2006, 12:25 PM
According to gameday the reds have 26 guys on the roster, cuz phillips is on the bench and nobody has been moved yet.. we aren't allowed to play him are we, unless something changes quickly?

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:25 PM
took awhile but there we go :)

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:27 PM
Chats up! :)

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:30 PM
Pre Shows On!!!

TeamBoone
04-08-2006, 12:30 PM
Aurillia batting cleanup again? :bang:

Good Lord! What is up with that? Is splitting lefties and righties more important than having your best power hitter in the #4 slot?

Just makes me shake my head and my heart palpitate. In other words, I'm angry!

And why isn't Hatteburg playing? Here we go again with Aurilia getting a ton of playing time.

pedro
04-08-2006, 12:31 PM
It's no big deal.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:31 PM
I argee boone I hated making the the pic lineup with him in 4th :(

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 12:35 PM
Good Lord! What is up with that? Is splitting lefties and righties more important than having your best power hitter in the #4 slot?

Just makes me shake my head and my heart palpitate. In other words, I'm angry!

And why isn't Hatteburg playing? Here we go again with Aurilia getting a ton of playing time.

Actually, I think I read somewhere that if you're going for optimum lineup construction, you're two best hitters should be 3rd and 5th.
Not sure why, I'll see if I can dig that up.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:40 PM
Ya thanks if you could! :) Love readin bball info!

ochre
04-08-2006, 12:43 PM
Aurilia is a cleanup type hitter at GABp. That's about as good of a lineup as I expect to see from Narron.

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 12:43 PM
Actually, I think I read somewhere that if you're going for optimum lineup construction, you're two best hitters should be 3rd and 5th.
Not sure why, I'll see if I can dig that up.

That's because generally they're up with men on, and needing to keep rallies going. Your 4 spot should be your best power guy, but can afford to K alot because of you able 3 and 5 spots to make up for it... not sure how Aurilia fits that bill over Dunn.

indyred
04-08-2006, 12:45 PM
over under line on dingers today is 6..............

ochre
04-08-2006, 12:45 PM
That's because generally they're up with men on, and needing to keep rallies going. Your 4 spot should be your best power guy, but can afford to K alot because of you able 3 and 5 spots to make up for it... not sure how Aurilia fits that bill over Dunn.
He has at home. On the road, not so much.

StillFunkyB
04-08-2006, 12:46 PM
Why not Kearns in the 4 spot? Not that I think this makes a huge difference, but he would have the "protection" of Dunn hitting behind him.

Silly lineup Jerry, Rich is not a kid!

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 12:47 PM
everyone's a slugger at GABP.

StillFunkyB
04-08-2006, 12:47 PM
over under line on dingers today is 6..............

I'll take the under.

westofyou
04-08-2006, 12:49 PM
Good Lord! What is up with that? Is splitting lefties and righties more important than having your best power hitter in the #4 slot?

In the late innings yes sometimes it matters.

Seriously, is every lineup going to be a shout out every day?


If you have nine hitters and nine batting order slots to put them in there are 362,880 ways to do it, and only one of them is right

Bill James

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 12:51 PM
Well I found an interesting tool on baseballmusings.com for optimum lineup projections. I put in all the players career average OPS and SLG, and it came up with the following lineups. All of which would get Jerry Narron fired yesterday, then tarred,feathered, and tied to a giant rock before being thrown into the Ohio River.
1.Adam Dunn
2.Ken Griffey Jr.
3.Felipe Lopez
4.Rich Aurillia
5.Austin Kearns
6.Edwin Encarnacion
7.Javier Valentin
8.Aaron Harang
9.Ryan Freel
That was the top run producing one, expected to average 4.737 Runs per game.
The following are the rest of the "Top 10"

Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.732 Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.730 Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.730 Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.730 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.730 Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.728 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.728 Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.728 Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.727 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.726 Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.726 Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.725 Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.725 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.725 Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.725 Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Adam Dunn Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.724 Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.723 Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.723 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.723 Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Ken Griffey Jr. Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.723 Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.723 Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.722 Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.722 Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.721 Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.721 Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.720 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.719 Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel
4.719 Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang Ryan Freel

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 12:52 PM
Intersting seeing freel in 9th and picther in 8th lol :)

indyred
04-08-2006, 12:53 PM
Perez is 3-0 at GAB and 3.0 era.......

ochre
04-08-2006, 12:54 PM
Getting your best hitters the most PAs possible has to count for something :)

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 12:58 PM
Okay switched the model up a little bit. If you want the details on their models go to; http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/LineupAnalysis.py

4.541
1.Ryan Freel
2.Ken Griffey Jr.
3.Rich Aurillia
4.Adam Dunn
5.Austin Kearns
6.Javier Valentin
7.Felipe Lopez
8.Edwin Encarnacion
9.Aaron Harang
and the rest...

4.540 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.540 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.539 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.538 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.538 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.537 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.536 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.536 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.536 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Aaron Harang
4.536 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang
4.536 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.535 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.535 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Aaron Harang
4.535 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Aaron Harang
4.535 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang
4.534 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Ken Griffey Jr. Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.534 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.533 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Aaron Harang
4.533 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang
4.533 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Aaron Harang
4.533 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Rich Aurillia Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Felipe Lopez Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Felipe Lopez Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Edwin Encarnacion Javier Valentin Rich Aurillia Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Adam Dunn Austin Kearns Rich Aurillia Felipe Lopez Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Rich Aurillia Javier Valentin Edwin Encarnacion Felipe Lopez Aaron Harang
4.532 Ryan Freel Ken Griffey Jr. Edwin Encarnacion Austin Kearns Adam Dunn Javier Valentin Felipe Lopez Rich Aurillia Aaron Harang

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 01:00 PM
that one looks more normal.

ochre
04-08-2006, 01:00 PM
but scored less runs :)

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 01:01 PM
Have a feeling that they are giving Aurilia time in the 4 slot b/c of a potential deal. Maybe more of a wish than a feeling, but definitely a possibility.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:02 PM
I argree Ed lol im wishing to

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 01:02 PM
One flaw in my system, beyond the obvious Harang batting 8th, is using career averages. These pump up guys like Aurillia and Valentin, and lower the usefulness of Lopez and Encarnacion.
Maybe someone who has the Pecota numbers would be able to show what would work best.

Kc61
04-08-2006, 01:07 PM
Have a feeling that they are giving Aurilia time in the 4 slot b/c of a potential deal. Maybe more of a wish than a feeling, but definitely a possibility.

Just a guess, but I think RA is one of the least likely to be traded. Despite bad play yesterday, RA is reasonably good at all the infield positions. Womack and Freel are basically second basemen, although Freel does play the outfield. I think his versatility makes RA a keeper this year as a utility infielder.

As for the cleanup spot, I think it is based on RA's good hitting with men on base in 2005. Kearns would be the obvious choice but Reds seem determined to hit him lower in order at this stage.

I do agree with splitting Griff and Dunn against lefties.

columbusbrian
04-08-2006, 01:07 PM
I think that watching Perez today is going to be a good indication of whether or not the trend of Reds working counts and being patient is an actual philosophy on the part of the team. Last night, Maholm didn't have his control early and the reds really made him pay. It will be interesting to see how they handle a pitcher who has his stuff working. The Pirates bullpen probably isn't that much better than the reds and judging by the way they have been approaching ABs, it pretty clear that Perez is going to have to throw a lot of strikes and have his sinker and slider working. None of the starters they have faced have been solid so far. It looks pretty obvious that from the other side, Pittsburg is going to want to get Harang out as early as possibly, regardless of how many runs he actually gives up.

ochre
04-08-2006, 01:08 PM
Aurilia in the 4 slot isn't that much of a stretch at GABp. And I am far from an Aurilia fan.

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 01:11 PM
Just a guess, but I think RA is one of the least likely to be traded. Despite bad play yesterday, RA is reasonably good at all the infield positions. Womack and Freel are basically second basemen, although Freel does play the outfield. I think his versatility makes RA a keeper this year as a utility infielder.

As for the cleanup spot, I think it is based on RA's good hitting with men on base in 2005. Kearns would be the obvious choice but Reds seem determined to hit him lower in order at this stage.

I do agree with splitting Griff and Dunn against lefties.


I agree that RA has some value, but he is nowhere in the future plans of this team and would be valued as a "missing piece' of a potential contender like Minny. Losing Aurilia and adding bullpen help would be of greater value than keeping him and sending Hammond and White to the mound with the game on the line.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:13 PM
RA getting his 4th start in a row, and is batting cleanup? He is 0 for 10!!! EE had to sit because he was 1-8. Joke.

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 01:15 PM
RA getting his 4th start in a row, and is batting cleanup? He is 0 for 10!!! EE had to sit because he was 1-8. Joke.

He didn't sit because he was 1-8.
He sat because it was a RHP, there were three LHP coming up, and there were still 160 games left.

Honestly folks, lighten up.

MartyFan
04-08-2006, 01:18 PM
I agree that RA has some value, but he is nowhere in the future plans of this team and would be valued as a "missing piece' of a potential contender like Minny. Losing Aurilia and adding bullpen help would be of greater value than keeping him and sending Hammond and White to the mound with the game on the line.

I agree...and if we can only DFA or trade (i know...long shot) Womack...

biggestREDSfan
04-08-2006, 01:19 PM
Harang gets lead-off hitter with KO!

Gizmo
04-08-2006, 01:19 PM
good start!

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:19 PM
Duffy K's on three pitches

DoogMinAmo
04-08-2006, 01:20 PM
Harang keeping his pitches low and missing bats.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:20 PM
Wilson flies out to 2B. 2 outs.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:20 PM
He didn't sit because he was 1-8.
He sat because it was a RHP, there were three LHP coming up, and there were still 160 games left.

Honestly folks, lighten up.

Edwin sits

Edwin Encarnacion, 1 for 8 in his first two games, was not in Thursday's lineup, his place taken by Rich Aurilia.

"Eddie is going to play and he wasn't in the lineup because he is 1 for 8," said manager Jerry Narron.
He sat because he was 1 for 8, a direct quote from the manager.

Matt700wlw
04-08-2006, 01:21 PM
I agree...and if we can only DFA or trade (i know...long shot) Womack...

He's done what exactly in this early season that's so terrible?

biggestREDSfan
04-08-2006, 01:21 PM
Harang gets next hitter on a pop out1

GullyFoyle
04-08-2006, 01:21 PM
Actually, I think I read somewhere that if you're going for optimum lineup construction, you're two best hitters should be 3rd and 5th.
Not sure why, I'll see if I can dig that up.

For those interested here is one take on lineups:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/five-questions-cincinnati-reds-2006/

Dave Studeman recently used The Book in his Constructing Lineups article to argue against Cyril Morong's recent research and Dan Scotto's review of Morong's findings on lineup construction.

Here's what The Book says:
Your three best hitters should bat somewhere in the #1, #2 and #4 slots. Your fourth- and fifth-best hitters should occupy the #3 and #5 slots. The #1 and #2 slots will have players with more walks than those in the #4 and #5 slots. From slot #6 through #9, put the players in descending order of quality.

resulting in:
1. Freel, LF
2. Dunn, 1B
3. Kearns, RF
4. Griffey Jr., CF
5. Lopez, SS
6. Encarnacion, 3B
7. LaRue, C
8. Aurilia, 2B
9. Starting Pitcher

not saying I agree, just that its interesting...

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:22 PM
Casey grounds out to 1B. Pirates 0, Reds coming up.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:22 PM
Top 1ST B:0 S:3 O:1
Chris Duffy strikes out swinging.

Top 1ST B:2 S:2 O:2
Jack Wilson pops out to second baseman Ryan Freel.

Casey Grounds out

Reds 0-0 Pirates 0-0!

biggestREDSfan
04-08-2006, 01:23 PM
Harang looks GREAT!!!

MartyFan
04-08-2006, 01:23 PM
He's done what exactly in this early season that's so terrible?
\

Nothing so horrible...just should not be on the team...he may fit somewhere else but I agree we should get Freel at 2B over Womack...he is not a bad guy but we could have used an arm or two in the minors over bringing Womack over here from the Yankees.

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 01:24 PM
He sat because he was 1 for 8, a direct quote from the manager.

Oddly enough, another story had this quote from Mr. Narron,
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060406&content_id=1387428&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
"If he was 8-for-8, he probably wouldn't be out there," Narron said. "It just gives him a day. I want to get guys into games as best I can."

So take your pick.
Still its game 5, if you keep getting bent out of shape every game about the lineup, it's going to wear you out by the end of the season.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:24 PM
NARRON DID NOT PULL EE BECAUSE HE WAS 1-8! this is and article on cincinnatis mlb page

CINCINNATI -- Following a blazing hot Spring Training, third baseman Edwin Encarnacion found himself off to a 1-for-8 start and out of Thursday's starting lineup against the Pirates.

But Reds manager Jerry Narron said the rest wasn't because Encarnacion was batting .125 in eight at-bats.

"If he was 8-for-8, he probably wouldn't be out there," Narron said. "It just gives him a day. I want to get guys into games as best I can."

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:25 PM
Np backing ya up there Hoosier LOL

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:26 PM
Freel bloops a single to RF.

westofyou
04-08-2006, 01:26 PM
Still its game 5, if you keep getting bent out of shape every game about the lineup, it's going to wear you out by the end of the season.

I'm already worn out by it.

biggestREDSfan
04-08-2006, 01:26 PM
Freel gets a single.

ochre
04-08-2006, 01:26 PM
I think the other quote is a mis-quote/mis-spoke type thing. I think he was trying to say that 1-8 wasn't why he was out of the lineup. In fact I think there was another sentence after that. Narron saying something about the upcoming 3 straight lefties.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:26 PM
NARRON DID NOT PULL EE BECAUSE HE WAS 1-8! this is and article on cincinnatis mlb page

CINCINNATI -- Following a blazing hot Spring Training, third baseman Edwin Encarnacion found himself off to a 1-for-8 start and out of Thursday's starting lineup against the Pirates.

But Reds manager Jerry Narron said the rest wasn't because Encarnacion was batting .125 in eight at-bats.

"If he was 8-for-8, he probably wouldn't be out there," Narron said. "It just gives him a day. I want to get guys into games as best I can."

Edwin sits

Edwin Encarnacion, 1 for 8 in his first two games, was not in Thursday's lineup, his place taken by Rich Aurilia.

"Eddie is going to play and he wasn't in the lineup because he is 1 for 8," said manager Jerry Narron.
That says something different.

But let's forget about it and Go Reds!

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:27 PM
I think the other quote is a mis-quote/mis-spoke type thing. I think he was trying to say that 1-8 wasn't why he was out of the lineup. In fact I think there was another sentence after that. Narron saying something about the upcoming 3 straight lefties.
Actually you could be very right. I noticed that when I read over it again.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:27 PM
Lopez singles to LF. 1st and 2nd, 0 outs.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:28 PM
Yes! GRIFFEY here we go!

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:28 PM
1st and 2nd 0 outs!

the sig says it all

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:28 PM
Griffey wants a homer here

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 01:29 PM
For those interested here is one take on lineups:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/five-questions-cincinnati-reds-2006/


not saying I agree, just that its interesting...

Thanks Gully, that's the one I was thinking of. I somehow missed all the key points of the article though:)

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:29 PM
Griffey wants a homer here
So do I

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:30 PM
heh :) Love your siggy change it to what you were saying yesterday Breaking News: ...... lol

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:30 PM
heh :) Love your siggy change it to what you were saying yesterday Breaking News: ...... lol
Haha better?

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Griffey flies out to Cota. 1 out. Casey collided with Cota they but both seem to be OK.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Breaking News Casey collides LOL hahaha

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Jr. fails to get the runners over.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Ra :(

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
I like this count though 2-0 Ra can do something with that

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
Double steal. 2nd and 3rd, 1 out.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
Double Steal!

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
double steal 4 for freel 1 for lopez

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
Aurilia HR...3-0 Reds!!!

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
home run!!!!!!

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:34 PM
Ra Yes!!!

Way To Shut Me Up!!!

biggestREDSfan
04-08-2006, 01:34 PM
Aurilia hits a home run with 2 on!!!

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:34 PM
Rich got the 3-0 green light and slammed it to LF.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:34 PM
1-11 this series haha:all_cohol

jhiller21
04-08-2006, 01:34 PM
Wow, Aurilia bombs a curveball. 3-0 Reds!

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:34 PM
Dunn K's on three pitches. 2 outs.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
keep shutting me up RA

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
Only his 2nd strikeout of the year though!

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
WOOOOO!!! The Nature Boy Rich Aurilia, stylin' and profilin'! :D

:aurilia:

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:36 PM
EdE flies out to 3B on a 3-0 pitch. 3-0 Reds after 1.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:36 PM
Bottom 1ST B:0 S:2 O:0
Ryan Freel singles on a fly ball to center fielder Chris Duffy.

Bottom 1ST B:0 S:2 O:0
Felipe LopezJr. singles on a soft line drive to left fielder Jason Bay. Ryan Freel to 2nd.

Bottom 1ST B:3 S:2 O:1
Ken GriffeyJr. pops out to catcher Humberto Cota in foul territory.

Bottom 1ST B:3 S:0 O:1
With Rich Aurilia batting, Ryan Freel steals (4) 3rd base. Felipe LopezJr. steals (1) 2nd base.

Bottom 1ST B:3 S:0 O:1
Rich Aurilia homers (2) on a fly ball to left field. Ryan Freel scores. Felipe LopezJr.

Bottom 1ST B:0 S:3 O:2
Adam Dunn strikes out swinging.

EE pops up on ball 4

Reds 3-0 Pirates 0-3 !!:)

PickOff
04-08-2006, 01:37 PM
EdE flies out to 3B on a 3-0 pitch. 3-0 Reds after 1.

Green light on 3-0 with nobody on base? Please explain this to me.

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:37 PM
that was a bomb by aurilla why would perez throw a 3-0 breaking ball

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:38 PM
No idea but i sure didnt mind booooooom !!!

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:38 PM
Green light on 3-0 with nobody on base? Please explain this to me.
Did you see what the count was when RA hit his homer?

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 01:39 PM
Green light on 3-0 with nobody on base? Please explain this to me.

I was wondering the same thing. I hated that.

ochre
04-08-2006, 01:39 PM
that was a bomb by aurilla why would perez throw a 3-0 breaking ball
because his formerly 94 mph fastball is now ~88 or so?

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:39 PM
that was a bomb by aurilla why would perez throw a 3-0 breaking ball
Probably was the only pitch he was confident he could get over.

Hoosier Red
04-08-2006, 01:39 PM
that was a bomb by aurilla why would perez throw a 3-0 breaking ball

Well when you hang the curve, you at least know it will be in the strike zone.
Good thing too, because otherwise he would have walked Aurillia

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:40 PM
pirates announcers keep claiming he has no confidence to throw his breaking ball when he's down in the count

PickOff
04-08-2006, 01:40 PM
Did you see what the count was when RA hit his homer?

Yes, and there were two baserunners in scoring position.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:41 PM
Bay Doubles. That ball just kept carrying..

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:41 PM
bay with a drive to the base of the wall

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:41 PM
leadoff double

StillFunkyB
04-08-2006, 01:41 PM
Of course, I moved, so now I can't get WLW on my clock radio at this house. Went to Wal-Mart right quick and got me the home kit for my XM Radio.

Missed the HR.

MartyFan
04-08-2006, 01:41 PM
Perfect first inning...we need about 8 more like it

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 01:42 PM
If that ball had been hit to LF, and Dunn had made the same play, people would be ready to crucify him. Yet no comments about Kearns.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:43 PM
If that ball had been hit to LF, and Dunn had made the same play, people would be ready to crucify him. Yet no comments about Kearns.
That ball hit off the top of the wall.

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:43 PM
it looked as if both griffey and kearns both mismanaged how far they thought that ball was gonna go

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 01:44 PM
That was strike 3. Sure called that a strike on Dunn.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:45 PM
Burnitz K's. 1 out.

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:45 PM
strikes out burnitz

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:45 PM
He Gone!

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:45 PM
That was strike 3. Sure called that a strike on Dunn.


Yeah, it seems the zone is pretty tight for Harang.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:46 PM
Sanchez lines one off Harang. He picks it up and throws the runner out at 1B. 2 outs.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:46 PM
That will hurt tommrow

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:46 PM
off harang picks it back up himself throws out sanchez 2 outs

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:46 PM
Nice stop by the goalie.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:47 PM
Narron coming out to look at Harang, though he appears to be OK. He is throwing a few pitches here.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 01:47 PM
I hope Harang is ok. That was a shot.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:48 PM
It will most likely hurt tommrow because it hurts worse the next day

StillFunkyB
04-08-2006, 01:49 PM
He Gone!

Alright Hawk, this ain't the south side! ;)

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:49 PM
Castillo HR...3-2 game.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:49 PM
Gone

3-2

StillFunkyB
04-08-2006, 01:50 PM
Steve just said I thought we were talking about the ballclub.

I would have said "Why aren't we talking about the game."

captainmorgan07
04-08-2006, 01:50 PM
look out castillo homers something tells me he's still feeling the shot off the thigh

GullyFoyle
04-08-2006, 01:50 PM
He Gone!

LOL, Every time I look away and come back and see your strikeout call, I expect to hear a home run call over MLB audio... has scared me to death twice the last two games... :)

... but well worth it if it means they sat someone down... :p:

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 01:51 PM
Harang has gotten rocked by two pretty average lineups so far. Disappointing.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:51 PM
Cota K's. 3-2 Reds, Mid. 2nd.

SteelSD
04-08-2006, 01:51 PM
Awful pitch by Harang after a pretty good curve should have rung him up.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:51 PM
He Gone

inning over

StillFunkyB
04-08-2006, 01:52 PM
Marty and Hal are talking about moving the fences back.

I say replace your "flyball" pitchers, with "groundball" pitchers.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:52 PM
Top 2ND B:2 S:2 O:0
Jason Bay doubles (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Austin Kearns.

Top 2ND B:3 S:3 O:1
Jeromy Burnitz strikes out swinging.

Top 2ND B:1 S:1 O:2
Freddy Sanchez grounds out sharply, pitcher Aaron Harang to first baseman Rich Aurilia.

Top 2ND B:3 S:1 O:2
Jose Castillo homers (1) on a fly ball to right field. Jason Bay scores.

Reds 3-2 Pirates 2-3 ! :( :)

indyred
04-08-2006, 01:54 PM
Marty and Hal are talking about moving the fences back.

I say replace your "flyball" pitchers, with "groundball" pitchers.

Do both..........Just way too easy to hit HR at GAB...........

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:54 PM
This K Zone for Perez appears wider than Harang's.

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 01:55 PM
I hope Wayne doesn't see this...

Blue Jays designated catcher Jason Phillips for assignment.
Phillips got one start while Gregg Zaun was out and went 1-for-4 with two RBI. He'll probably accept a minor league assignment with Toronto if he clears waivers. Some club might consider picking him up as a bench player, though.

GAC
04-08-2006, 01:55 PM
RA hit a 3 run homer huh? ;)

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Kearns flies out ot CF. 1 out.

reds44
04-08-2006, 01:56 PM
I hope Wayne doesn't see this...

Blue Jays designated catcher Jason Phillips for assignment.
Phillips got one start while Gregg Zaun was out and went 1-for-4 with two RBI. He'll probably accept a minor league assignment with Toronto if he clears waivers. Some club might consider picking him up as a bench player, though.
We don't need another catcher.

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 01:56 PM
I hope Wayne doesn't see this...

Blue Jays designated catcher Jason Phillips for assignment.
Phillips got one start while Gregg Zaun was out and went 1-for-4 with two RBI. He'll probably accept a minor league assignment with Toronto if he clears waivers. Some club might consider picking him up as a bench player, though.

Isn't Jason Phillips the catcher that wears the thick black-framed "nerd" glasses when he plays?

ochre
04-08-2006, 01:57 PM
Do both..........Just way too easy to hit HR at GAB...........
those aren't fence scrapers. It's the pitching.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:57 PM
Isn't Jason Phillips the catcher that wears the thick black-framed "nerd" glasses when he plays?


Sure is.

Valentin flies to LF. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
04-08-2006, 01:57 PM
Isn't Jason Phillips the catcher that wears the thick black-framed "nerd" glasses when he plays?

That's him

Gallen5862
04-08-2006, 01:57 PM
Trade Womack for Jason Phillips lol. :)

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Harang flies out to 1B. 3-2 Reds after 2.

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 01:58 PM
We don't need another catcher.


Exactly why I posted...but we also didn't need a 2b.

But IF there are other moves to be made, he wouldn't be a bad pickup. If Aurilia goes and one of the catchers, he could play 1b and be an emergency catcher.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 01:59 PM
Bottom 2ND B:1 S:2 O:1
Austin Kearns flies out to center fielder Chris Duffy.

Bottom 2ND B:1 S:2 O:2
Javier Valentin flies out to left fielder Jason Bay.

Aaron Harang pops out to first baseman Sean Casey in foul territory.

Reds 3-2 Pirates 2-3!

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 01:59 PM
Actually, they look like Oakley "Scar" frames with clear lenses.

GAC
04-08-2006, 01:59 PM
chats open

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:01 PM
Ya i was on earlier left though decided to talk on here !:)

Matt700wlw
04-08-2006, 02:01 PM
Them some tight pants on the cheerleaders :eek:

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:02 PM
The cheerleaders...errr, Hooters girls...errr, whatever they are are dancing on the dugout.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:02 PM
Perez flies out to CF. 1 out.

TeamBoone
04-08-2006, 02:03 PM
I'm a bit disgruntled by the situation George and Chris were just discussing.... keeping LaRue on the DL so they have room on the roster for the newest acquisition. That really ticks me off.

LaRue is the Reds starting catcher. He should not be sacrificed to make room on the roster for late acquisitions that are NOT starters and for whom there is no room.

I know that nothing is always fair... but that just isn't fair!

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:03 PM
Exactly why I posted...but we also didn't need a 2b.

But IF there are other moves to be made, he wouldn't be a bad pickup. If Aurilia goes and one of the catchers, he could play 1b and be an emergency catcher.

We already have that guy. His name is Scott Hatteberg.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:03 PM
Duffy K's on three pitches. 2 outs.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:04 PM
personally i have never liked Larue hes better then ross but valey is better then him Larue stinks at defense we always think he has maybe eye problems

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:04 PM
More catchers? Sure...we could be the first team with 5.

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 02:05 PM
More catchers? Sure...we could be the first team with 5.

If one of them got traded. If. Because you would have to assume one of them will be.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Wilson singles.

tripleaaaron
04-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Lets do it! 4 in a row, harangs opening day jitters are a thing of the past. Get er done!

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Jack Wilson, one of the worst hitters in baseball, continues to own the Reds.

indyred
04-08-2006, 02:07 PM
I'm a bit disgruntled by the situation George and Chris were just discussing.... keeping LaRue on the DL so they have room on the roster for the newest acquisition. That really ticks me off.

LaRue is the Reds starting catcher. He should not be sacrificed to make room on the roster for late acquisitions that are NOT starters and for whom there is no room.

I know that nothing is always fair... but that just isn't fair!

Agree..........

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:07 PM
personally i have never liked Larue hes better then ross but valey is better then him Larue stinks at defense we always think he has maybe eye problems

But LaRue's passed balls don't lead to many Runs. That's overrated.

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:07 PM
I'm a bit disgruntled by the situation George and Chris were just discussing.... keeping LaRue on the DL so they have room on the roster for the newest acquisition. That really ticks me off.

LaRue is the Reds starting catcher. He should not be sacrificed to make room on the roster for late acquisitions that are NOT starters and for whom there is no room.

I know that nothing is always fair... but that just isn't fair!

I wouldn't worry about it. LaRue will be activated as soon as he is ready. There's just no need to rush a knee surgery (albeit a minor knee surgery), especially when the weather is not cooperative. (Cold weather hurts healing joints.)

As usual, GG and the Creeper are talking just to hear themselves.

BTW, has anyone ever been "gruntled"? :)

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:07 PM
Jack Wilson, one of the worst hitters in baseball, continues to own the Reds.

Hes not a bad hitter why you say that?:beerme:

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:08 PM
Casey flies out to CF. 3-2 Reds, Mid. 3rd.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:08 PM
But LaRue's passed balls don't lead to many Runs. That's overrated.

Ya you maybe right but sometimes it just gets me down cause i know he can do better

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:08 PM
Casey flies out to Junior

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:08 PM
Top 3RD B:1 S:2 O:1
Oliver Perez flies out to center fielder Ken GriffeyJr.

Top 3RD B:0 S:3 O:2
Chris Duffy strikes out swinging.

Top 3RD B:2 S:2 O:2
Jack Wilson singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder Ken GriffeyJr.

Casey flies out

Reds 3-2 Pirates 2-3 !!!

indyred
04-08-2006, 02:09 PM
Who closes if the situation arrives today...

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 02:09 PM
Hes not a bad hitter why you say that?:beerme:

Because he's a bad hitter.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:09 PM
Who closes if the situation arrives today...
Good question.

Weather has pitched three days in a row.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:10 PM
Anyone but Hammond

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:11 PM
Freel up.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:11 PM
Freel walks.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:11 PM
A solid walk.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:11 PM
4eel walks

FeLo up

TeamBoone
04-08-2006, 02:12 PM
personally i have never liked Larue hes better then ross but valey is better then him Larue stinks at defense we always think he has maybe eye problems

No, he's not. Nor does LaRue stink at defense.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:13 PM
Freel easily steals 2B.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:13 PM
Freel steals 2nd easily.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:13 PM
The kid just makes things happen

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 02:13 PM
My name is Freel...I should be starting against righties.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:13 PM
Lopez walks. 1st and 2nd, 0 outs.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:14 PM
FeLo walks

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:14 PM
Jr :clap:

TeamBoone
04-08-2006, 02:14 PM
Ya you maybe right but sometimes it just gets me down cause i know he can do better

And he has done better. He decreased his number of passed balls in 2005.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:14 PM
My name is Freel...I should be starting against righties.
Or he's just proving he's too valuble to play ;)

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:15 PM
Zone seems to be getting tighter for Perez now.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:15 PM
Jr. moves the runners along.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:15 PM
Griffey grounds to 2B. Runners to 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

George of course calls it a productive out.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:15 PM
Productive out for JR

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:16 PM
Who closes if the situation arrives today...

Pitch whoever gives you the best matchup.

Could be Mercker, could be Weathers (doubtful--I think they want to give him the day off), could be Coffey or Belisle.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:17 PM
Yeesh Rich don't swing at that

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:17 PM
That was a fantastic 2-0 swing.

Come on RA you know better.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 02:17 PM
Unreal. RA swings at a 2-0 pitch in the dirt. Geez.

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:20 PM
Aurilia walks. Bases Loaded, 1 out.

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 02:20 PM
Rich walks.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:20 PM
Dunn up :clap:

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:20 PM
Way to go, Richie!

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Come Dunn..sac fly time.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Nice job RA

DUNN LET'S GO!

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
What would you have said 2 years ago if someone told you Rick White would be in our bullpen and Wagner would be in the minors?

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Safe!

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Freel Is Amazing!!!!!

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Dunn fliies out to RF...Freel comes home and scores!. 4-2 Reds! Nice running again!

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Superfreel!!

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Freel is awesome. That's all I can say. No way Womack tags up there.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Another sac fly...he's on FIRE!

DropDocK
04-08-2006, 02:22 PM
ANOTHER sac fly for Dunn, what is the world coming to?!

Matt700wlw
04-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Freel needs to be in the lineup as much as humanly possible.

He creates things.

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Lets go EddieE! Break this one open.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:23 PM
Did you see Dunn when he got in the dugout?

haha

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:23 PM
EdE flies out to SS. 4-2 Reds after 3.

Redlegs23
04-08-2006, 02:23 PM
Even Marty says that Freel should be in there as much as possible.

Wake up Jerry!!

edabbs44
04-08-2006, 02:23 PM
ugh

TeamCasey
04-08-2006, 02:24 PM
He's so scrappy! :D

GAC
04-08-2006, 02:24 PM
heads up steal by Freel.... but he was lucky the catcher was out of position, cause he would have been out.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:25 PM
He's so scrappy! :D
Scrappier then Raisor :devil:

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2006, 02:25 PM
I was hoping they would get more than one there.

TeamBoone
04-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Did you see Dunn when he got in the dugout?

haha

Yes, that was too funny.... and who said this team has no passion!

Redeye fly
04-08-2006, 02:25 PM
I was a little concerned for Ryan Freel there. Dunn looked like he was going to happily spear him in the dugout.

Great job by Freel though.

BuckeyeRedleg
04-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Dunn charges into the dugout and bear-hugs little Freel.

Freel earned him a ribbie and SAC fly. Nice!

MartyFan
04-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Freel needs to be in the lineup as much as humanly possible.

He creates things.

And that was my point about Womack

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Bay grounds to 3B. 1 out.

BuckeyeRedleg
04-08-2006, 02:26 PM
64 pitches for Perez through 3.

They are making him work. I think that Aurilia AB (for a BB) took about 9-10 pitches.

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Dunn charges into the dugout and bear-hugs little Freel.

Freel earned him a ribbie and SAC fly. Nice!
You could see the fear in Freel's eyes ;)

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:27 PM
Aflac 1971 who are only 3 reds picthers with 200+ SO in season?

Big Klu
04-08-2006, 02:27 PM
AFLAC Trivia answer:
Tom Seaver, Mario Soto, and Jose Rijo

TeamBoone
04-08-2006, 02:27 PM
Dunn charges into the dugout and bear-hugs little Freel.

Freel earned him a ribbie and SAC fly. Nice!

He actually picked him up!

MartyFan
04-08-2006, 02:28 PM
Aflac 1971 who are only 3 reds picthers with 200+ SO in season?


Gus Jennings
Paul "side Arm" Slaughter
and
Tom seaver

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:29 PM
Burnitz K's. 2 outs.

reds44
04-08-2006, 02:29 PM
he gone!

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:29 PM
K :clap:

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:29 PM
So!

CincyRedsFan30
04-08-2006, 02:30 PM
Sanchez Doubles.

NatiRedGals
04-08-2006, 02:30 PM
Double

KronoRed
04-08-2006, 02:30 PM
Dbl :(