PDA

View Full Version : Best Villian ever



Puffy
04-13-2006, 01:24 PM
I was reading The Sports Guy's mailbag today and he mentioned John Lithgow and his villainous portrayal in Cliffhanger (beyond horrible if you ask me - as was his villian in Ricochet. Not a Lithgow fan)

Anyway, who was, in your opinion, the best villain ever in a movie or TV show? The guy who actually hated, who didn't overact to make you hate him but was diabolical enough to do so anyway.

In no order, here are a couple that stand out to me:

(a) Alan Rickman in Die Hard.
(b) Alfred Molina in Spiderman 2.
(c) Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs
(d) Mr. Potter in Its a Wonderful Life

westofyou
04-13-2006, 01:28 PM
Satan

RichRed
04-13-2006, 01:35 PM
The warden in Shawshank Redemption.

pedro
04-13-2006, 01:35 PM
John Lithgow was great as a villain in Buckaroo Banzai

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/the_adventures_of_buckaroo_banzai/_group_photos/ellen_barkin1.jpg

Chip R
04-13-2006, 02:00 PM
Jim Coombs.

Betterread
04-13-2006, 02:15 PM
John Lithgow was great as a villain in Buckaroo Banzai

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/the_adventures_of_buckaroo_banzai/_group_photos/ellen_barkin1.jpg

I agree with you : "Laugh while you can, monkey-boy"

guttle11
04-13-2006, 02:24 PM
The Iron Sheik.

RedsFan75
04-13-2006, 02:27 PM
Lithgow has played a tremendous villian's role in several movies.

There are some that just take villian to a whole new level.
How about a little known movie and a great villain there.
The smash hit from 1984 Runaway, featuring Gene Simmions as Dr. Charles Luther. Took the cold calculating villian to a new level.

How about Jack Nicholsons' villian in The Shining.

Or Dennis Hopper's Frank Booth in Blue Velvet.

Or Ralph Fiennes in Schindlers list.

RFS62
04-13-2006, 02:40 PM
Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter has to be number one for me.

Dennis Hopper as Frank Booth in Blue Velvet

Lena Olin as Mona Demarkov in Romeo is Bleeding was a great female villianess

Not considering slasher films, or you'd have Freddy, Jason and that whole genre of mindless drivel.

IowaRed
04-13-2006, 02:40 PM
Either Robert Mitchum in the original or Robert DeNiro in the remake as Max Cady in Cape Fear

Raymond Burr as Lars Thorwald in Rear Window

BuckU
04-13-2006, 02:47 PM
Mugatu

TRF
04-13-2006, 02:50 PM
Scar from the Lion King.
Jafar

barring those two, Nitty(sp?) from the Untouchables

GAC
04-13-2006, 02:52 PM
http://www.no-treason.com/images/uploads/alswearengen.jpg

http://www.infilm.com.au/features/villains/pic2.jpg

http://www.infilm.com.au/features/villains/pic9.jpg

Never really watched the show, but I guess JR Ewing would have to be on that list.

Not to leave out the women. ;)

Louise Fletcher in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. You wanted to slap her!
Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct.
Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.

And....

http://www.infilm.com.au/features/villains/pic3.jpg

westofyou
04-13-2006, 02:56 PM
Swearigin is not really a Villian, he kind of straddles it... that other guy last seen with a belly full of Andys knife is the true villian

pedro
04-13-2006, 02:57 PM
Bud Selig.

oh yeah, there's nothing good about him.

SunDeck
04-13-2006, 03:10 PM
http://www.toyfanatic.com/images/nodders/barnabas.jpg

Somehow, he doesn't scare me nearly as much as he did when I was a kid.

westofyou
04-13-2006, 03:12 PM
http://www.toyfanatic.com/images/nodders/barnabas.jpg

Somehow, he doesn't scare me nearly as much as he did when I was a kid.
Every day at 4 that guy gave me the creeps.

http://gothlupin.tripod.com/vthen/bc03.jpg

IowaRed
04-13-2006, 03:18 PM
Every day at 4 that guy gave me the creeps.

http://gothlupin.tripod.com/vthen/bc03.jpg

As a child my grandmother babysat for us during the summer and at the "Dark Shadows" time of the day she was usually working in the kitchen. I would stand in the kitchen next to her and peek around the corner at the TV. Barnabas was one scary dude to a little kid

gonelong
04-13-2006, 03:42 PM
Scott Farcas

SunDeck
04-13-2006, 03:46 PM
As a child my grandmother babysat for us during the summer and at the "Dark Shadows" time of the day she was usually working in the kitchen. I would stand in the kitchen next to her and peek around the corner at the TV. Barnabas was one scary dude to a little kid
Same here.
I never got to ask mine what in the world she was thinking by plopping my six year old butt in front of that show.

SunDeck
04-13-2006, 03:47 PM
Scott Farcas
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
He got his, though.

westofyou
04-13-2006, 03:50 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
He got his, though.
http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg12082003/Saturn2K.jpg

KronoRed
04-13-2006, 04:27 PM
Khan.

rdiersin
04-13-2006, 04:44 PM
This guy

http://www.tuckborough.net/images/samwise.jpg

thinks this guy

http://www.tuckborough.net/images/gollum.jpg

is a villian.

Puffy
04-13-2006, 06:19 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/drevil.jpg

pedro
04-13-2006, 06:26 PM
John Huston as Noah Cross in Chinatown

Johnny Vander m
04-13-2006, 06:51 PM
Snidley Whiplash in the Bullwinkle shows.

westofyou
04-13-2006, 06:56 PM
Snidley Whiplash in the Bullwinkle shows.

Simon Barsinister

http://www.jrj-socrates.com/Cartoon%20Pics/Underdog/Simon_Barsinister_300.gif

Johnny Footstool
04-13-2006, 06:57 PM
The Cigarette Smoking Man.
http://www.fraterslibertas.com/Images/Separated/davis.jpg


Chris Walken in anything (but this role stands out):
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/notes/jfoleywalkenatclose.jpg


Willem Dafoe as Bobby Peru in "Wild at Heart"
http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/pages/celebrity/D/Previews/Plans-33459.jpg


Ricardo Montalban as Khan
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3253/regular/min-khan.gif

RFS62
04-13-2006, 06:58 PM
Crabby Appleton

http://genedeitch.awn.com/illustrations/CH6-image1.gif

westofyou
04-13-2006, 07:09 PM
Crabby Appleton

http://genedeitch.awn.com/illustrations/CH6-image1.gif
Crabby Appleton is a true villian if there ever was one.

CrackerJack
04-13-2006, 07:11 PM
Of recent memory is Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs Of New York, as Bill The Butcher.

Brilliant acting job.

The Baumer
04-13-2006, 08:45 PM
Lord Humungus & The Toe Cutter

Falls City Beer
04-13-2006, 08:51 PM
Of recent memory is Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs Of New York, as Bill The Butcher.

Brilliant acting job.


I completely agree. The movie would have been awful if not for him. He was amazing.

Falls City Beer
04-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Richard III, Tamburlaine, Iago, Edmund, Lorenzo from The Spanish Tragedy

Oh, and General Zod.

MrCinatit
04-13-2006, 09:13 PM
Henry Fonda as Frank in Once Upon A Time In The West.
Tobin Bell as Jigsaw in Saw.
Powers Boothe as Curly Bill Brocious and Michael Biehn as Johnny Ringo in Tombstone.
Nina Meyers in 24.

max venable
04-13-2006, 09:37 PM
ummm....

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/2003/10/27/zLckBqnZ.jpg

Bill Slawski
04-13-2006, 09:57 PM
Alan Rickman, again. But in the Kevin Costner version of Robin Hood.

Rickman had me cheering for the Sheriff of Nottingham.

Tommyjohn25
04-13-2006, 10:11 PM
This freakin guy.

3496

wally post
04-13-2006, 10:38 PM
Alan Rickman is unbelievable with his sneering villian-ness! He absolutely JUMPS out of the cookie cutter script of Die Hard! And yeah Robin Hood - even as Prof. Snape in the Harry Potter stuff. Obviously, you might have guessed that he gets my vote.

KronoRed
04-13-2006, 11:15 PM
ummm....

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/2003/10/27/zLckBqnZ.jpg
The horror.

Yachtzee
04-14-2006, 12:11 AM
Sweep the leg.

http://blogs.celebopedia.com/trivial-pursuits/images/SenseiJohnKreese.JPG

And lets not forget his pupil, Billy Zabka, bully extraordinaire.

http://www.movie-montage.com/images/upload/973.jpg

max venable
04-14-2006, 01:27 AM
http://umichan.clarence.com/archive/images/misery.jpg

Caveat Emperor
04-14-2006, 02:29 AM
This is a great question...

There are so many different types of villians that I've liked in movies...

There's Creepy, vaguely psychotic Villain:
http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/3_g003_thumb.jpg
("Gladiator")

There's Stereotype Ethnic Villain:
http://dvdmg.com/gooniespic4.jpg
("The Goonies")

There's Evil Cartoon Villain:
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~jmunro/skeletor.jpg
("He-Man")

and, of course Malfunctioning Computer Villain:
http://www.sorgonet.com/tordera/computer/hal9000/hal.jpg
("2001")

KronoRed
04-14-2006, 03:36 AM
Forgot about Skeletor.

savafan
04-14-2006, 04:21 AM
To add to those already mentioned.

http://www.arts4all.com/newsletter/mfwimages/nightofthehunter500.jpg
Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter

http://www.kinoweb.de/film2001/Vatel/pix/v135_26.jpg
Tim Roth in Rob Roy

http://hem.passagen.se/kattmor/moxica_d.jpg
Michael Wincott in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves

http://www.halley.cc/regina/personal/characters/Michael_Wincott_1b.jpg
Michael Wincott in The Three Musketeers

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/the_count_of_monte_cristo/michael_wincott/count.jpg
Michael Wincott in The Count of Monte Cristo

http://www.maximumnimh.com/wincott.jpg
Michael Wincott in The Crow

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/the_count_of_monte_cristo/guy_pearce/count.jpg
Guy Pearce in The Count of Monte Cristo

http://www.geocities.com/aleong1631/patriot3.jpg
Jason Isaacs in The Patriot

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/2636/pic-coll1/it-clown.jpg
Tim Curry in IT

http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/h/harry_potter_goblet_fire_050915_2/flip-voldemort.jpg
Ralph Fiennes in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/caffeinefirst/celebs/godfather.jpg
Al Pacino in The Godfather

http://www.lesiteducinephile.net/images/batman.jpg
Jack Nicholson in Batman

And these two are up there right now as well

http://24.wikia.com/images/7/71/Henderson.jpg
Peter Weller in 24

and

http://24.wikia.com/images/a/ad/PresidentLogan.jpg
Gregory Itzin in 24

SunDeck
04-14-2006, 08:16 AM
Chris Walken in anything (but this role stands out):
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/notes/jfoleywalkenatclose.jpg




Christopher Walken could scare *&^% out of me in a Jello commercial.

max venable
04-14-2006, 10:16 AM
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_110383.jpg

deltachi8
04-14-2006, 12:57 PM
Another vote for Rickman in Die Hard. My favorite part is after he makes the various "demands" to the FBI, he is asked by one of his co-horts.."Do you really think they are going to do it?"

"Who cares."

Just the way he delivered that line was great.

As a father to a 9 year old, most of my movies are of the kid ilk, so I agree on Scar from the Lion King, what a great character.

wally post
04-14-2006, 02:41 PM
Ricardo Montalban as Khan
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3253/regular/min-khan.gif


is it just me... or does Ricardo Montalban look like Lita Ford here???

Puffy
04-14-2006, 05:05 PM
Powers Boothe as Curly Bill Brocious and Michael Biehn as Johnny Ringo in Tombstone.


Great call - especially Biehn.

Chip R
04-14-2006, 05:15 PM
Tony Soprano, anyone?

westofyou
04-14-2006, 06:48 PM
Tony Soprano, anyone?
Tony can be lovable, you could eat a sausage and have a beer with Tony, talking bout sports and cars.... can't see me doing that with Crabby Appleton though.

*Shudder*

max venable
04-14-2006, 08:33 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/archives/graves_mullet.jpg

Benny-Distefano
04-15-2006, 12:25 AM
Chris Walken is everything.

SteelSD
04-15-2006, 09:14 PM
Kevin Spacey as Kaiser Soze in "The Usual Suspects", IMHO, trumps just about everyone. A couple other great performances...

John Turturro as Bernie Bernbaum in "Miller's Crossing" (one of the most underrated flicks of all time)

Annette Bening as the Marquise de Merteuil in "Valmont" (light years better than "Dangerous Laisions")

pedro
04-15-2006, 09:40 PM
Sava, you're right about Tim Curry as Pennywise in IT. He was scary as hell.

KronoRed
04-16-2006, 12:30 AM
Chris Walken is everything.
Well, he was pretty comical in A View to A Kill ;)

savafan
04-16-2006, 07:49 PM
Annette Bening as the Marquise de Merteuil in "Valmont" (light years better than "Dangerous Laisions")

You ain't kidding.

WMR
04-16-2006, 08:21 PM
Michael Rooker in "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer"

One of the most disturbing films ever made.

http://www.filmkultura.iif.hu:8080/articles/review/images/titanic/9.jpg

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/henry_portrait_of_a_serial_killer/

WMR
04-16-2006, 10:03 PM
Kevin Spacey as John Doe in "Seven."

http://wallpapers.infinitecoolness.com/tn_20-sevenwp01_jpg.jpg

savafan
04-16-2006, 11:26 PM
Michael Rooker in "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer"

One of the most disturbing films ever made.



I've worked with David Wooley, who did the fight choreography on Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. He says he can't even watch that movie anymore, it's too brutal.

WMR
04-17-2006, 12:18 AM
I've worked with David Wooley, who did the fight choreography on Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. He says he can't even watch that movie anymore, it's too brutal.

What sort of work did you two do together?

Have you seen the movie, Sava?

I think it's an excellent representation of the psyche of a serial killer, but an undeniably brutal viewing experience...

savafan
04-17-2006, 01:38 AM
What sort of work did you two do together?

Have you seen the movie, Sava?

I think it's an excellent representation of the psyche of a serial killer, but an undeniably brutal viewing experience...

I've seen it, it's in my VHS collection.

David is one half of the Swordsmen duo who perform each year at the Ohio Renaissance Festival, where I also performed from 2002 through 2004.

Here is his resume:
http://www.theswordsmen.com/history.html#woolley

savafan
04-17-2006, 01:40 AM
Kevin Spacey as John Doe in "Seven."

http://wallpapers.infinitecoolness.com/tn_20-sevenwp01_jpg.jpg

He only appears in the movie briefly, but he's very effective when onscreen.

WMR
04-17-2006, 01:58 AM
The Deadly Unknown Virus in "Outbreak"

http://plissken.free.fr/Covers/O/Outbreak%20frt.jpg

WMR
04-17-2006, 02:06 AM
The Kurgan played by Clancy Brown in "Highlander"

http://missspooky.free.fr/mswfilm/Highlander/kurgan/kurgan_tour.jpg

savafan
04-17-2006, 02:08 AM
The Kurgan played by Clancy Brown in "Highlander"

Nice choice. Clancy Brown was pretty wicked in Shawshank as well.

WMR
04-17-2006, 02:15 AM
Nice choice. Clancy Brown was pretty wicked in Shawshank as well.


Oh yeah definitely. He and the warden--mentioned by someone else, I believe--formed quite the little power couple until Tim Robbins got all intellectual-trickster on them!

WMR
04-17-2006, 02:23 AM
The Gopher from "Caddyshack"

http://www.carlspackler.com/images/cs_carl.jpg


Judge Smails from "Caddyshack"
http://johnstewart.com/pics/canoe/july2004/DSCN6514.JPG
http://www.tvdepot.com/rodney/images/home/ART_home_02.jpg
"Who'd be the moron to wear a hat like that... OH!!!, it looks good on YOU, though!"

http://outhouserag.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/rodney.JPG
"You know what? When I was a kid, I used to pack ice up 10-12 flights of stairs!"
Kid: "So what?"
"So what? So let's dance!"

WMR
04-17-2006, 02:33 AM
Pig Vomit played by Paul Giamatti in "Private Parts."

http://www.wtv-zone.com/jetts/pics/Pig_Vomit.jpghttp://www.twinkle.com.hk/intposter/poster/e0355.jpg

Chip R
04-17-2006, 12:45 PM
All talk about great villians begins and ends with this man:

http://www.sergioleone.net/dw-10.jpg

He shot a man for chewing gum on line and not having enough for everyone.

flyer85
04-17-2006, 01:00 PM
Henry Fonda as Frank in Once Upon A Time In The West.
I agree with that. Fonda until the end of his career was good as a bad guy. A man who truly seemed to enjoy his work.

westofyou
04-17-2006, 01:05 PM
I agree with that. Fonda until the end of his career was good as a bad guy.
True... but he was no Crabby Appleton.

Puffy
04-17-2006, 01:18 PM
All talk about great villians begins and ends with this man:

http://www.sergioleone.net/dw-10.jpg

He shot a man for chewing gum on line and not having enough for everyone.

Ahhhh, good ole Heady LeMar.

Chip R
04-17-2006, 01:22 PM
Ahhhh, good ole Heady LeMar.

That's Hedley.

Puffy
04-17-2006, 01:23 PM
Count De Money?

Yachtzee
04-17-2006, 01:44 PM
Count De Money?

de Monet! de Monet!

Jaycint
04-17-2006, 02:49 PM
David Hess in Last House on the Left.
John Jarratt in Wolf Creek.
Bill Mosely and Sherri Moon in The Devil's Rejects.

Puffy
04-17-2006, 04:29 PM
How bout Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. She scared the bejesus out of me.

RFS62
04-17-2006, 04:33 PM
True... but he was no Crabby Appleton.



Crabby Appleton was the Jim Coombs of villians.

Coffeybro
04-19-2006, 10:46 PM
Can't believe no one mentioned Hugo Weaving in the Matrix as Agent Smith.

Johnny Footstool
04-20-2006, 02:24 AM
Can't believe no one mentioned Hugo Weaving in the Matrix as Agent Smith.

Good point. But just in The Matrix, not those crappy sequels.

zombie-a-go-go
04-20-2006, 06:59 AM
Baron Silas Greenback

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/dmouse1.jpg

zombie-a-go-go
04-20-2006, 07:03 AM
...and Asami in the Japanese horror flick Audition.

"Words create lies. Pain can be trusted."

http://www.dvdspecials.nl/recensies/img2/audition.jpg

savafan
04-21-2006, 02:03 PM
...and Asami in the Japanese horror flick Audition.

"Words create lies. Pain can be trusted."

http://www.dvdspecials.nl/recensies/img2/audition.jpg

Brutal movie! :thumbup:

Sean_CaseyRules
04-21-2006, 08:13 PM
Albert Puljos........

Boss-Hog
04-21-2006, 08:22 PM
Darth Vader

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 08:23 PM
I'd have to say Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lectar. Jack Nicholson in "The Shining" is up there too.

However President Logan (24) is pretty evil :evil: