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OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Reds:

CF Freel
SS Lopez
1B Aurilia
LF Dunn
RF Kearns
3B Encarnacion
2B Phillips
C Ross
P Arroyo

Cards:

SS Davis Eckstein
2B Aaron Miles
1B Albert Pujols
3B Scott Rolen
RF John Rodriguez
LF Scott Spiezio
C Yadier Molina
CF Skip Schumaker
P Mark Mulder

Narron didn't give us much of a chance today. Arroyo will have to hold them under two runs for the Reds to win this one.

VI_RedsFan
04-16-2006, 01:50 PM
Aurilia at #3? Oh lord...

CTA513
04-16-2006, 01:51 PM
CF Freel
SS Lopez
1B Aurilia
LF Dunn
RF Kearns
3B Encarnacion
2B Phillips
C Ross
P Arroyo

Dunn actually has some decent batting behind him. :eek:

DannyB
04-16-2006, 02:00 PM
I kinda like this one:dunno:

nycredsfan
04-16-2006, 02:04 PM
I actually like this one too. Other than Ross, I think it is about the best thing Narron could put out there today.

djsauter
04-16-2006, 02:06 PM
This is the best we have right now. Our hottest hitters Lopez, Freel, Dunn and Kearns are in. There is no one on the bench today that is doing well.

TheBurn
04-16-2006, 02:10 PM
Anyone have the latest on Junior?

UGADaddy
04-16-2006, 02:12 PM
Our hottest hitters Lopez, Freel, Dunn and Kearns are in.

...and Arroyo!

Highlifeman21
04-16-2006, 02:13 PM
Reds:

CF Freel
SS Lopez
1B Aurilia
LF Dunn
RF Kearns
3B Encarnacion
2B Phillips
C Ross
P Arroyo

Cards:

SS Davis Eckstein
2B Aaron Miles
1B Albert Pujols
3B Scott Rolen
RF John Rodriguez
LF Scott Spiezio
C Yadier Molina
CF Skip Schumaker
P Mark Mulder

Narron didn't give us much of a chance today. Arroyo will have to hold them under two runs for the Reds to win this one.


#1 - advantage Reds
#2 - advantage Reds
#3 - advantage Cards
#4 - advantage Reds
#5 - advantage Reds
#6 - advantage push (only b/c SS went PH yard yesterday and EE seems to be pressing at the plate)
#7 - advantage Cards
#8 - advantage neither (both are horrible)
#9 - advantage push (I like Arroyo vs. Mulder)

while our bottom of the lineup might struggle, our top of the lineup should put runs on the board early, I'm hoping

more PAs for BP means less for Womack, and I'm all for that!

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 02:22 PM
This isn't a bad lineup, but I would have liked to see Phillips 2nd, and Lopez 3rd with Aurilia hitting 7th.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 02:23 PM
Gonna be a long day -- Arroyo needs to shut em down.

GADawg
04-16-2006, 02:25 PM
Aurilia at #3? Oh lord...
ya know in defense of Aurilia the guy doesn't have the early stats to get you all giggly inside but I've seen the guy hit the ball hard pretty much most of the time with little to show for it. Let's all hope all evens out as it usually does.

LvJ
04-16-2006, 02:28 PM
This is fine for me. I've given up on ever seeing a perfect lineup, I guess it just doesn't exsist. Go get em, Arroyo!

pedro
04-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Rich has a lifetime OPS against Mulder of .499 in 29 AB's.

Let's hope that doesn't continue today.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 02:30 PM
I kinda like this one:dunno:

So do I....I looked at earlier and said, "wow...not bad"


Oh yeah...happy Easter everybody. Enjoy spending time with your families...

TeamBoone
04-16-2006, 02:30 PM
I sooooooooooo hope the Reds take this series today!

pedro
04-16-2006, 02:31 PM
Here's how all the current Reds have faired against Mulder over the years.



OPPOSING HITTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
Rich Aurilia 29 6 1 0 0 2 2 3 .207 .258 .241 .499
Adam Dunn 15 3 1 0 2 3 2 4 .200 .294 .667 .961
Felipe Lopez 13 4 0 0 0 2 1 1 .308 .357 .308 .665
Ryan Freel 11 2 1 0 0 0 2 4 .182 .308 .273 .580
Jason LaRue 9 2 1 0 0 0 2 2 .222 .364 .333 .697
Ken Griffey 8 3 2 0 0 2 0 2 .375 .375 .625 1.000
Austin Kearns 7 1 0 0 1 3 1 2 .143 .250 .571 .821
ScottHatteberg 5 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .200 .333 .200 .533
David Ross 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .333 .200 .533
Tony Womack 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
JavierValentin 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
BClaussen 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
B Phillips 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000
Dave Williams 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
Matt Belisle 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
QMcCracken 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
E Encarnacion 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 .000 1.000 .000 1.000

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 02:31 PM
Always nice when your No. 3 hitter has a .250 OBP. And people wonder why Dunn always hits solo homeruns.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 02:34 PM
Put Kearns at 3 and Rich at 5 and this lineup would be better :)

I still like it, though.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 02:35 PM
George Grande's mom turned 100 years old today. :eek:

edabbs44
04-16-2006, 02:37 PM
Glad that Kearns has finally been moved up. But why is RA hitting 3rd? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

PuffyPig
04-16-2006, 02:44 PM
With Griffey and Larue out, it's hard to blame Narron with the hand he's been dealt. Other than Aurilla's spot in the order, he's got the right guys in there. Womack shouldn't ever start vs. the LH pitcher, nor should Valentin.

And look at the Cards OF of Rodriquez, Schmaker and Spezio. I gotta think our AAA OF can hit better than that. A potent bunch of no hit/no field OF's as I've ever seen.

LawFive
04-16-2006, 02:48 PM
A lot of the B team for the Cards. Gotta think the Reds have a good shot at taking 2 of 3, esp. w/Arroyo going today.

cincy09
04-16-2006, 02:55 PM
I'd take a 4-2 road trip any time. Especially within the division

Jr's Boy
04-16-2006, 02:56 PM
Picking up WKKI.:)
Glad to see Kearns is moved up in the order.Dont understand the Aurilia batting 3rd scheme though.

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:06 PM
Not a bad lineup--all the right people are in there. I would prefer Phillips hitting 2nd, Lopez hitting 3rd, and Aurilia hitting 7th, but overall--not bad.

westofyou
04-16-2006, 03:13 PM
I'm not getting it on Directv (yet) what channel do you DTV users have it on?

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:13 PM
638 WestOfYou

JaxRed
04-16-2006, 03:17 PM
Same as you WOY, Getting wrestling on 738. 638 blacked out

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Freel doubles to CF!

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Lead off Double for Freeeeeeel.

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:19 PM
Lopez K's.

Casey_21
04-16-2006, 03:20 PM
The line-up is about as close as you can get to perfect without having Griffs in it... I like it :thumbup:

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:20 PM
No "Jim Brown of Baseball" again today for the Cardinals!

Cant Touch This
04-16-2006, 03:20 PM
Why is EI blacked out in Las Vegas on DirecTV? I'm getting all other EI games. I hate it when this happens.

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:21 PM
The Nature Boy Rich Aurilia lines a hard single to LF! WOOOOOO!!!!

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:21 PM
Aurilla blows one past Rolen.

Freel moves up to 3rd.

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:24 PM
Dunn K's.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:25 PM
Well.....Dunn K's...swinging....again....with RISP

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 03:26 PM
Well.....Dunn K's...swinging....again....with RISP

He's obviously pressing. Didn't get a single pitch to hit that entire AB and ended up getting himself out on Ball Four (the same pitch he offered at for Strike Two).

Take the Walk.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:26 PM
But, it will still a good AB for Dunn.

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:27 PM
Same as you WOY, Getting wrestling on 738. 638 blacked out

Ditto in Memphis, blacked out on both. I expect here it is because the Cards are the "local" team, which is all fine and good, except that we are not getting the local over-the-air feed that St. Louis residents are getting, of course.

So...for second day in a row, no game for us in Memphis...

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:27 PM
I don't have a problem with strikeouts swinging. It's the called third strikes that drive me nuts.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
AK with a RBI single to left.

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Kearns RBI single to LF!

Freel scores, Aurilia to 2nd!

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Kearns!!! :D

TheBurn
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Yeah AK !!!

lollipopcurve
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
I'm in Massachusetts and the game isn't on. Why is this?

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:28 PM
It would be nice to see EE go big fly here, get a nice early cushion...

MWM
04-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Every time Adam K's in those situations, it's on a bad pitch.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Take the Walk.

Next time he will....hopefully

redram
04-16-2006, 03:30 PM
In Memphis also, I looked ahead and all the rest of the games with the Cards are on their sports channel and not the WB channel the game is on today. SO we will get the rest of them is you sub to the sports pack on DTV. If you have cable you are SOL

MWM
04-16-2006, 03:30 PM
AWFUL, AWFUL strike call on EdE.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:30 PM
That ball was low -- no way it was a strike.

Topcat
04-16-2006, 03:30 PM
man the Red's takin 2 out of 3 would be excellent. Who is up next the Marlins ?

Fullboat
04-16-2006, 03:30 PM
I'm in Massachusetts and the game isn't on. Why is this?

In brockton I got it on comcast.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:31 PM
In Memphis also, I looked ahead and all the rest of the games with the Cards are on their sports channel and not the WB channel the game is on today. SO we will get the rest of them is you sub to the sports pack on DTV. If you have cable you are SOL

How's Beale Street looking? I'll be down there for the music festival in a few weeks and the thought of it is wetting my appetite. :beerme:

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Every time Adam K's in those situations, it's on a bad pitch.

The worst part in that AB is that he saw the pitch earlier and still got himself out on it. Not a single Strike was thrown during that AB to Dunn and he still ended up walking back to the dugout. That makes me grumpy.

TeamBoone
04-16-2006, 03:31 PM
AWFUL, AWFUL strike call on EdE.

Absolutely! I was stunned when it was called a strike. It was almost in the dirt.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Double E pops out to short 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2006, 03:32 PM
Mulder threw 30 pitches in the 1st.

redram
04-16-2006, 03:33 PM
How's Beale Street looking? I'll be down there for the music festival in a few weeks and the thought of it is wetting my appetite. :beerme:

Still Hopping LOL
When your here check out Autozone Park. The Redbirds may not be good but that Ball Park is one of the Top triple A Parks out there

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:33 PM
Three straight excellent ABs. If they keep doing that, the offense will score some runs today.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:34 PM
Lead-Off Single to start the inning.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:35 PM
Hit and Run for the Cards.

Eckstien moves to 2nd.

1 out.

MWM
04-16-2006, 03:35 PM
With 1B open, Albert shouldn't see anything to hit.

GullyFoyle
04-16-2006, 03:35 PM
According to Marty:

"I don't know if Dunn will ever be good with RISP"

"Dunn had a problem with RISP last year"

Dunn 2005
BA .247 OBP .387 SLG .540 OPS .927

with RISP
BA .248 OBP .468 SLG .574 OPS 1.041


Whatever... switched to Cardinals broadcast...

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:36 PM
Still Hopping LOL
When your here check out Autozone Park. The Redbirds may not be good but that Ball Park is one of the Top triple A Parks out there

Last year we stayed across the street from it....I'm guessing we will this year too...

Between the festival, Sun Studios, Graceland, and beer beer beer, we'll see if seeing a game is possible :D

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:36 PM
How's Beale Street looking? I'll be down there for the music festival in a few weeks and the thought of it is wetting my appetite. :beerme:

Musicfest...one of the best times to be in Memphis. Five stages, all spread out in a park over the Mississippi River. Unbelievable good time. Tack on Beale before and after, and it's a four day party.

MWM
04-16-2006, 03:36 PM
Yeah, every metric was higher with RISP.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:37 PM
HAHAHA...

The Cardinals announcers on WB11 here in St. Louis called Aaron Miles "gritty".

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Musicfest...one of the best times to be in Memphis. Five stages, all spread out in a park over the Mississippi River. Unbelievable good time. Tack on Beale before and after, and it's a four day party.

Even better....the first night is my birthday :beerme: :beerme: :beerme:

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Sir Albert walked.

Topcat
04-16-2006, 03:38 PM
HAHAHA...

The Cardinals announcers on WB11 here in St. Louis called Aaron Miles "gritty".


Cards version of scrappy

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Sir Albert walked.

Albert Finney.

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:39 PM
Prepare to be sad, Reds fans...Cards' announcers talking about how Pujols talked after the game yesterday about his need to not be "selfish" and go ahead and take walks if that is what pitchers are dealing, and trust that his teammates will make them pay. The Cards announcers, happily, praised Pujols for understanding what is important, and for having a high OBP.

It was a breath of fresh air, I will tell you.

pedro
04-16-2006, 03:39 PM
someone should email that to Marty and ask why it is that he continues to spread falsehoods.

Is it because he has a personal agenda or because he is stupid.

Inquiring minds want to know.

WMR
04-16-2006, 03:39 PM
LOL George, we weren't a flyball staff last year, we were a homerun staff

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 03:40 PM
Prepare to be sad, Reds fans...Cards' announcers talking about how Pujols talked after the game yesterday about his need to not be "selfish" and go ahead and take walks if that is what pitchers are dealing, and trust that his teammates will make them pay. The Cards announcers, happily, praised Pujols for understanding what is important, and for having a high OBP.

It was a breath of fresh air, I will tell you.

Meh. C'mon...we all know that Albert Pujols "isn't paid to do that".

;)

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:40 PM
That last pitch was close......

In CIncinnati he gets it.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:41 PM
someone should email that to Marty and ask why it is that he continues to spread falsehoods.

Is it because he has a personal agenda or because he is stupid.

Inquiring minds want to know.


go ahead...

martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

He'll see it tomorrow

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Meh. C'mon...we all know that Albert Pujols "isn't paid to do that".

;)

Apparently they have not gotten the memo from the desk of he who "tells it like it is"...

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Arroyo K's Rolen.

:beerme:

MWM
04-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Meh. C'mon...we all know that Albert Pujols "isn't paid to do that".

;)


You know what's funny is that I've heard that statement from "Joe Average" Reds fan on more than one occassion as it relates to Dunn. "He's not paid to walk, he's paid to drive in runs." Seriously, I bet I've heard it almost word for word at least a half dozen times from completely different people.

WMR
04-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Pedro I love that avatar. What made you "see" that potential? I imagine he's got a nice pipe somewhere close...

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:42 PM
The pitch he just struck Rolen out on is the filthiest pitch I've seen all season.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:42 PM
He spun Rolen around!

:owned:

pedro
04-16-2006, 03:43 PM
go ahead...

martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

He'll see it tomorrow

thanks matt. :)

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:43 PM
go ahead...

martyandsteve@redsonradio.com

He'll see it tomorrow

I nominate Steel. He words his posts very well, and if someone was going to email Marty and basically stick it to him it should be worded very very well.

pedro
04-16-2006, 03:43 PM
Pedro I love that avatar. What made you "see" that potential? I imagine he's got a nice pipe somewhere close...


just being silly.

westofyou
04-16-2006, 03:44 PM
The pitch he just struck Rolen out on is the filthiest pitch I've seen all season.
I'd like to *see* it, but Directv is showing me tom and jerry instead???

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:45 PM
The Cards announcers just called that a triple.

Umm, it was a double. He advanced on the throw home.

pedro
04-16-2006, 03:45 PM
I nominate Steel. He words his posts very well, and if someone was going to email Marty and basically stick it to him it should be worded very very well.


marty read my last email on the air.

I think I'll give a try again. :)

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:45 PM
Crap. Two out two strike double to one of the Card shlubs. Of course.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:45 PM
Some Triple-A guy doubles to Right.

Eckstein and Pujlos scores.


That guy goes to 3rd on the throw.

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 03:46 PM
I nominate Steel. He words his posts very well, and if someone was going to email Marty and basically stick it to him it should be worded very very well.

I dunno about that. I sent in an email that Marty read on-air about the BRM, but it didn't appear that he actually understood the point.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 03:46 PM
Reds pitchers are getting rocked by a Triple-A squad. The Reds AAA outfield is better than the Cards outfield.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2006, 03:46 PM
Mulder throws 30 pitches and Arroyo 26 pitches in the 1st inning.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:46 PM
marty read my last email on the air.

I think I'll give a try again. :)

That's cool, I would just like to hear for once Marty read an email that doesn't inflate his ego.

Topcat
04-16-2006, 03:47 PM
The pitch he just struck Rolen out on is the filthiest pitch I've seen all season.


This Bronson deal has helped the Red's alot, in regards to confidence as a team I believe. Now That was an excellent trade!

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:47 PM
Mulder throws 30 pitches and Arroyo 26 pitches in the 1st inning.

I really hope Larue comes back soon.

LINEDRIVER
04-16-2006, 03:47 PM
That throw by Phillips ... Is it really POSSIBLE to make that BAD of a throw??

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:47 PM
This one is going to be an 11-10 affair.

Cards definitely have the early-going mojo. Reds offense is going to have to make an immediate statement this inning.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:48 PM
Inning over by the way -

Reds up.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 03:48 PM
Well.....Dunn K's...swinging....again....with RISP

When Dunn came up with runners on, I looked at dad and told him Dunn was a lock to strikeout swinging on a pitch in the dirt. I nailed that one. Dunn has turned into a free swinger on us. I can no longer blame Marty or Reds fans for bagging on him. It's getting frustrating.

I don't mind strikeouts looking or swinging or good pitches, but I can't stand to watch guys swing at crappy pitches like Dunn is.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:48 PM
Phillips grounds back to Mulder.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:49 PM
First AB I have seen from BPhillips.

He needs to stop waiving that bat around so much. He's no Gary Sheffield.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:49 PM
LaRue to play today/tomrorow with AAA.

pedro
04-16-2006, 03:49 PM
That's cool, I would just like to hear for once Marty read an email that doesn't inflate his ego.

he read mine out of context and basically called me a moron.

I was very proud.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:49 PM
Ross singles to Right.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:50 PM
Ross has got a deceptively quick bat, to my eyes.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:50 PM
Arroyo, "the babe" time

:D

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:50 PM
he read mine out of context and basically called me a moron.

I was very proud.

Marty calling YOU a moron? Now that is rich. :)

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:50 PM
When Dunn came up with runners on, I looked at dad and told him Dunn was a lock to strikeout swinging on a pitch in the dirt. I nailed that one. Dunn has turned into a free swinger on us. I can no longer blame Marty or Reds fans for bagging on him. It's getting frustrating.

I don't mind strikeouts looking or swinging or good pitches, but I can't stand to watch guys swing at crappy pitches like Dunn is.

IF Dunn is going back to trying to "put the ball in play" like he did a few years back, Marty and "certain Reds fans" are EXACTLY who I will blame. The near-constant caterwauling from that segment about Dunn leads to him trying to be something he is not, and offering at bad pitches instead of taking the walks that appear to cause little pieces of Marty Brennamen to die each time it happens...

CrackerJack
04-16-2006, 03:51 PM
Let Arroyo swing!

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:51 PM
I am surprised Quentin "Don't call me Phil" McCracken didn't start today.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:52 PM
IF Dunn is going back to trying to "put the ball in play" like he did a few years back, Marty and "certain Reds fans" are EXACTLY who I will blame. The near-constant caterwauling from that segment about Dunn leads to him trying to be something he is not, and offering at bad pitches instead of taking the walks that appear to cause little pieces of Marty Brennamen to die each time it happens...

There is one man, and one man only, that Dunn should be listening to.

That man is Chris Chambliss.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:52 PM
Bunt Foul on a 1-2 count. Arroyo "k's".

Freel is up.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:52 PM
Kid Rock strikes out :D

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 03:52 PM
What a waste of an at bat.. sigh.

DiamondRat
04-16-2006, 03:52 PM
For you Directv viewers, it is also not on in Alabama. I just spoke with one of their reps who said they have technicians working on it and it should be on soon.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:53 PM
Kid Rock strikes out :D

Is he the Bull God?

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:53 PM
Reds look a little lethargic, uninspired in the early going.

Fullboat
04-16-2006, 03:53 PM
Arroyo's average plummets.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Is he the Bull God?

He's the T-O-P to the D-O-G

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 03:54 PM
BTW, I hate umpires. I've said it a thousand times, I can't wait until they start using questec.

That called strike on Encarnacion was awful. The same pitches were called balls on Pujols and Rodriguez.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Freel totally guessed wrong on that pitch.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Mulder's settled in.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Freel K's Lookin. 3 outs.

After 1.5

Reds 1 - RedBirds 2.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Mulder looks like he's dealing today..

CrackerJack
04-16-2006, 03:55 PM
IF Dunn is going back to trying to "put the ball in play" like he did a few years back, Marty and "certain Reds fans" are EXACTLY who I will blame. The near-constant caterwauling from that segment about Dunn leads to him trying to be something he is not, and offering at bad pitches instead of taking the walks that appear to cause little pieces of Marty Brennamen to die each time it happens...


I would actually blame Dunn for doing that. He isn't that untouchable is he?

Marty and sports talk show callers influencing his approach? Hmm.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 03:55 PM
BTW, I hate umpires. I've said it a thousand times, I can't wait until they start using questec.

That called strike on Encarnacion was awful. The same pitches were called balls on Pujols and Rodriguez.

Seems there has been nothing but bad umpiring this season... every game i've seen/heard there has been complaints..

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Looks like the real Reds are back. 90 losses here we come!!

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:56 PM
Reds need luck or a huge step-it-up from Arroyo if they want to win today.

JaxRed
04-16-2006, 03:56 PM
Game on for MLB Ei !!

DiamondRat
04-16-2006, 03:56 PM
Directv channel 738 is now on!

max venable
04-16-2006, 03:57 PM
Can't believe they'd ask a slugger like Arroyo to lay one down. :dunno:

Gallen5862
04-16-2006, 03:58 PM
They wanted Arroyo to be more scrappy with a bunt.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:58 PM
Arroyo looks pretty wild today.

membengal
04-16-2006, 03:58 PM
I would actually blame Dunn for doing that. He isn't that untouchable is he?

Marty and sports talk show callers influencing his approach? Hmm.

If that's all he hears, the constant complaining, rather than reinforcement of how darn good his approach is, that kind of response would be natural. Unfortunate, but understandable. Marty Brennamen needs to get a life.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 03:59 PM
Shumaker goes 3-2, and taps one just foul down firstbase line. Walks.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 03:59 PM
Arroyo walks Shumacker. Awesome.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 03:59 PM
BBs the 8th spot

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 03:59 PM
I missed that last 2 people cuz of family... Grr wish they would shut up.

pedro
04-16-2006, 04:00 PM
here's my email to Marty.

Dear Marty,

You consistenty rip on Adam Dunn for being a being a poor hitter with runners in scoring position. During todays' game (sunday 4/16) against the Cardinals you made the following comments.

"I don't know if Dunn will ever be good with RISP"

"Dunn had a problem with RISP last year"

I assume you can read so I'm wondering why you can't seem to find Adam's statistics from last year to support your assertion. Is it because you have a personal agenda against Adam Dunn or because you are just ignorant?

Since you are apparently unable or unwilling to do so yourself I thought I'd forward Dunn's numbers with RISP from last year. I thought they might be a good talking point for you to use when you admit that you don't know what you are talking about.


By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
Scoring Position 129 71 32 9 0 11 62 51 4 40 1 1 .248 .468 .574 1.042



In case no one told you yet OPS is a players slugging percentage plus his on base pecentage. As a point of reference Albert Pujols' OPS for all of last year was 1.039 so as you can see Adam does quite well with RISP despite your constent diatribes to the contrary.

Thanks for "telling it like it is".

Steve Erts
Portland, Oregon

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 04:01 PM
Looks like the real Reds are back. 90 losses here we come!!

Nah. They're just a little worn out after the pre-game Easter egg hunt.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:03 PM
Arroyo throws over the first 3 times....

3-2 pitch to Mulder, K's.

Shumaker steals 2nd.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:03 PM
Schumaker steals. Mulder Ks. 2 outs.

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 04:04 PM
here's my email to Marty.

Dear Marty,

You consistenty rip on Adam Dunn for being a being a poor hitter with runners in scoring position. During todays' game (sunday 4/16) against the Cardinals you made the following comments.

"I don't know if Dunn will ever be good with RISP"

"Dunn had a problem with RISP last year"

I assume you can read so I'm wondering why you can't seem to find Adam's statistics from last year to support your assertion. Is it because you have a personal agenda against Adam Dunn or because you are just ignorant?

Since you are apparently unable or unwilling to do so yourself I thought I'd forward Dunn's numbers with RISP from last year. I thought they might be a good talking point for you to use when you admit that you don't know what you are talking about.


By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
Scoring Position 129 71 32 9 0 11 62 51 4 40 1 1 .248 .468 .574 1.042



In case no one told you yet OPS is a players slugging percentage plus his on base pecentage. As a point of reference Albert Pujols' OPS for all of last year was 1.039 so as you can see Adam does quite well with RISP despite your constent diatribes to the contrary.

Thanks for "telling it like it is".

Steve Erts
Portland, Oregon

If you haven't sent that yet, you might want to add:

"Just so you know- Adam Dunn posted a better Batting Average with RISP than he did overall, and put up a better On Base Percentage and Slugging Percentage. In short, the RISP Dunn was BETTER than the regular Dunn by every measurement known to man."

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:04 PM
David Eckstein has to be one of my least favorite players in the game.. he frustrates the piss outta me.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:04 PM
here's my email to Marty.

Dear Marty,

You consistenty rip on Adam Dunn for being a being a poor hitter with runners in scoring position. During todays' game (sunday 4/16) against the Cardinals you made the following comments.

"I don't know if Dunn will ever be good with RISP"

"Dunn had a problem with RISP last year"

I assume you can read so I'm wondering why you can't seem to find Adam's statistics from last year to support your assertion. Is it because you have a personal agenda against Adam Dunn or because you are just ignorant?

Since you are apparently unable or unwilling to do so yourself I thought I'd forward Dunn's numbers with RISP from last year. I thought they might be a good talking point for you to use when you admit that you don't know what you are talking about.


By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
Scoring Position 129 71 32 9 0 11 62 51 4 40 1 1 .248 .468 .574 1.042



In case no one told you yet OPS is a players slugging percentage plus his on base pecentage. As a point of reference Albert Pujols' OPS for all of last year was 1.039 so as you can see Adam does quite well with RISP despite your constent diatribes to the contrary.

Thanks for "telling it like it is".

Steve Erts
Portland, Oregon

That is an excellent email, Pedro!

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:04 PM
Arroyo throwing a ton of pitches, and working very deliberately (to his disadvantage, IMO).

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:05 PM
Walks Eckstein.

2 on 2 out.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:05 PM
"Gritty" Aaron Miles up...

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:05 PM
Bleah.

2 walks in the inning so far for Arroyo -

1st and 2nd.

Miles up for Stl.

pedro
04-16-2006, 04:05 PM
If you haven't sent that yet, you might want to add:

"Just so you know- Adam Dunn posted a better Batting Average with RISP than he did overall, and put up a better On Base Percentage and Slugging Percentage. In short, the RISP Dunn was BETTER than the regular Dunn by every measurement known to man."

good points all. but it's already sent.

marty will read it, call me and idiot and point to the BA as his evidence and then say something like "I'm sure the folks out in Portland are very proud of you".

:)

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Reds are playing exceptionally tight. Wild pitch.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:06 PM
ball in dirt, runners advance to second and third

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Passed Ball/Wild Pitch - Runners move up.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Arroyo is missing badly.

westofyou
04-16-2006, 04:07 PM
marty will read it, call me and idiot and point to the BA as his evidence

Bubble Ass?

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:07 PM
Miles grounds out to 1st. Inning over.

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 04:07 PM
good points all. but it's already sent.

marty will read it, call me and idiot and point to the BA as his evidence and then say something like "I'm sure the folks out in Portland are very proud of you".

:)

LOL!

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:07 PM
Miles GO to 1st.

Inning over, finally.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:07 PM
Inning Over with a ground out to 1st.

After 2.

Reds 1 -- Redbirds 2.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:09 PM
The guy sitting next to me made a comment about Dunn.

He said, boy that Dunn is something else. Not one mention of his strikeouts, etc.....

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:10 PM
17 home runs in the games played today so far.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:10 PM
Called strike 2 on Lopez. Same pitch a ball on Eckstein/

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:10 PM
Lopez grounds out to 1st.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:10 PM
Mulder getting Reds to swing at his pitches. Lopez GO weakly to first.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:11 PM
Wow the Cardinals radio announcer is on TV right now....He doesn't look anything like I pictured him.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:11 PM
Nice hit by Aurilia!

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2006, 04:11 PM
I've read through the game thread but didn't see the answer to this question:

Where is Jr. and why isn't he playing--he has now missed 5 games.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:11 PM
Aurrila 2 hit day so far.

This one.. A double.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:12 PM
Rich hits a scalded double into the corner.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:12 PM
I've read through the game thread but didn't see the answer to this question:

Where is Jr. and why isn't he playing--he has now missed 5 games.

Resting. It's April. They said he doesn't need to go on the DL.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:12 PM
I've read through the game thread but didn't see the answer to this question:

Where is Jr. and why isn't he playing--he has now missed 5 games.

Stiffness behind the right knee again today.

Or something like that.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:12 PM
Ok Dunn.. Runner In Scoring Position..

DONT WALK!!





I'm just messin..

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:12 PM
Well, here is that Dunn feller. Once again, a runner in scoring position.

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 04:13 PM
I've read through the game thread but didn't see the answer to this question:

Where is Jr. and why isn't he playing--he has now missed 5 games.

Hurt leg....supposedly nothing serious.

Day to day for 5 days now.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:13 PM
Dunn looks terribly uncomfortable in there against Mulder. Looks like he's not seeing the ball well at all.

Big Klu
04-16-2006, 04:13 PM
Chris made a comment implying that he feels the Reds are better with Aurilia at 1B than Hatteberg.

I agree.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:14 PM
If Dunn walks here I'm fine with it.. I prefer he doesn't swing at crap..

Besides.. Kearns appears to be the hot hand lately..

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:14 PM
Honestly, with the way Kearns has been swingin, I wouldn't mind a walk to Dunn right here.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:14 PM
Mulder keeps pumping his breaking pitches in on the inside part of the plate. Dunn just misses one.

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2006, 04:14 PM
I don't think we are hearing the whole story on Jr's knee. It should be well enough to play by now.

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 04:14 PM
Dunn PA:

Pitch 1: Same pitch Dunn K'd on in the 1st. No swing.

Pitch 2: Ditto

Pitch 3: Fastball fouled off.

Pitch 4: (computer locked up so I couldn't type)

Gah!

Matt700wlw
04-16-2006, 04:15 PM
When in doubt, RUN!!

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:15 PM
Bleh.. he hit that way a ton.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:16 PM
Dunn looks awful. Bat him leadoff so he doesn't have to hit with runners on.

Caveat Emperor
04-16-2006, 04:16 PM
When in doubt, RUN!!

But if you run, the ump might think "it's a fair ball, he wouldn't have run unless it's fair"

Same principle as the "if you think you've been hit by the pitch, clutch part of your body and complain of pain"

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:16 PM
Cards announcers talking about Kearns "Going in a tailspin, and disappearing".

No mention of the fat you know what sitting on him.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:16 PM
Honestly, this ump looks like he's squeezing these pitchers some.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:17 PM
Dunn looks awful. Bat him leadoff so he doesn't have to hit with runners on.

Dunn is fairly streaky.. You have to bat him 3rd or 4th with Jr. out.. up against a lefty.. everyone calm down.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:17 PM
Another easy inning for Mulder.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:17 PM
This team is awful. Looks like the 2005 Reds.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:18 PM
The guy behind the plate hasn't been calling balls/strikes consistent at all today.........

Chip R
04-16-2006, 04:18 PM
If Dunn is listening to anyone but Chambliss he is dumb. I understand wanting to please the coaches and broadcasters but he knows what it takes to succeed as a hitter in the major leagues. I hope he is just laughing off their advice and listening to Chambliss only. But if he is not, he has no one to blame but himself.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:18 PM
This team is awful. Looks like the 2005 Reds.

It's not like they are going against a crappy pitcher or anything like that. ;)

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:19 PM
This team is awful. Looks like the 2005 Reds.

I'm not sure why anyone would find this either shocking or unexpected...

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:19 PM
If Dunn is listening to anyone but Chambliss he is dumb. I understand wanting to please the coaches and broadcasters but he knows what it takes to succeed as a hitter in the major leagues. I hope he is just laughing off their advice and listening to Chambliss only. But if he is not, he has no one to blame but himself.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=939322&postcount=117

:D

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:20 PM
Arroyo has looked as awful as Mulder's looked good the last couple of innings.

guttle11
04-16-2006, 04:20 PM
This team is awful. Looks like the 2005 Reds.


Well, yeah. Except for Pena, the core of the team is the same. It's the exact same team. Score tons of runs against power pitchers, score few on pitchers who change speeds fairly well.

The pitching staff seems to be better so far though, which gives me some encouragement.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:20 PM
Pujols - Arroyo with a couple large leg kicks...

On the 4th pitch he hits a grounder to 3rd were EZE picks it up and THROWS him out at 1st.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:20 PM
It's not like they are going against a crappy pitcher or anything like that. ;)

They made a crappy pitcher look good yesterday. And Mulder is no where near what he was in Oakland.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:21 PM
Rolen grounds out to 2nd.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:21 PM
They made a crappy pitcher look good yesterday. And Mulder is no where near what he was in Oakland.

Even if he isn't what he was in Oakland, he's still a very good pitcher...

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:21 PM
They made a crappy pitcher look good yesterday. And Mulder is no where near what he was in Oakland.

Ponson pitched very well, I wouldn't go that far.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Arroyo has handled Pujols and Rolen well, it's the triple-A players that are killing him.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:22 PM
FYI, those seats in the upperdeck that are empty are not open yet.

Casey_21
04-16-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would find this either shocking or unexpected...

Yeah, really. I have been pleasantly surprised alot this year.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:22 PM
1-2-3 inning for Arroyo.

After 2

Reds 1 - RedBirds 2.

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Arroyo has handled Pujols and Rolen well, it's the triple-A players that are killing him.

Its been the AAA players that have killed us this whole series.. :thumbdown

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:23 PM
Finally Arroyo has an efficient inning.

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 04:23 PM
Ok. During the last AB of the Reds side of that Inning, I swear I heard Chris Welsh call Mark Mulder a "cunnythumber".

I don't know what that is, but I'm pretty sure being one will get you arrested in at least 45 states.

Caveat Emperor
04-16-2006, 04:23 PM
Another easy inning for Mulder.

I don't know why anyone's worried.

This team has the ability to strike with lightning speed. With the exception of Freel and Ross, the entire team has the capability of hitting for power. Lopez, Dunn, Aurillia, Encarnacion and Kearns are each capable of tying the game with a single swing.

This is a team that can score runs in bunches. One or two easy innings for a starter shouldn't concern anyone when a single mistake pitch can change the game.

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:24 PM
Ok. During the last AB of the Reds side of that Inning, I swear I heard Chris Welsh call Mark Mulder a "cunnythumber".

I don't know what that is, but I'm pretty sure being one will get you arrested in at least 45 states.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

StillFunkyB
04-16-2006, 04:25 PM
Cunny thumber: Any pitcher who does not throw very hard and throws a lot of offspeed pitches.

edit: from a "baseball lingo" site.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:25 PM
EdE's pulling off badly on Mulder.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:25 PM
EE swings at a pitch in the dirt. The whole team is doing it. Someone forgot to pack the golf clubs.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:26 PM
Eddie grounds out to SS.

1 gone.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't know why anyone's worried.

This team has the ability to strike with lightning speed. With the exception of Freel and Ross, the entire team has the capability of hitting for power. Lopez, Dunn, Aurillia, Encarnacion and Kearns are each capable of tying the game with a single swing.

This is a team that can score runs in bunches. One or two easy innings for a starter shouldn't concern anyone when a single mistake pitch can change the game.


I agree.

But the Reds aren't even threatening Mulder at all. They look horribly off balance against him.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:27 PM
Phillips hits it hard off Mulder - Milder throws him out at 1st.

redsfaninbsg
04-16-2006, 04:27 PM
Is Mulder ok?

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:28 PM
Ross with his 2nd hit of the day.

A single.

Arroyo up with 2 outs.

He gonna swing.

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:28 PM
I actually kind of like Ross's swing. Looks quick and easy. (Looks like he might K a lot though).

SirFelixCat
04-16-2006, 04:28 PM
S-L-O-W game today, but Arroyo, while obviously not having his "A" game, is keeping the RedBirds in check, even while struggling. IMO, that says a lot...

cincyinco
04-16-2006, 04:28 PM
Man, the Ross acquisition isn't looking to be a bad move so far.. maybe krivs scouts saw something in him..

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:28 PM
I can't wait to watch this offense against Brian Moehler tomorrow night. I predict 7 shutout innings. ;)

flyer85
04-16-2006, 04:28 PM
When Dunn came up with runners on, I looked at dad and told him Dunn was a lock to strikeout swinging on a pitch in the dirt. I nailed that one. Dunn has turned into a free swinger on us. I can no longer blame Marty or Reds fans for bagging on him. It's getting frustrating. He has only done it because someone has talked to him about his approach with runners on and being more aggressive. We are seeing the results.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:29 PM
Arroyo swings at the 1st pitch and grounds it back to Mulder.

Inning over

after 3.5

Reds 1 -- RedBirds 2

Caveat Emperor
04-16-2006, 04:29 PM
But the Reds aren't even threatening Mulder at all. They look horribly off balance against him.

When he gets that mickey-mouse curveball going, it can make a lot of very good batters look off balance.

reds44
04-16-2006, 04:29 PM
We miss Junior.

westofyou
04-16-2006, 04:30 PM
I agree.

But the Reds aren't even threatening Mulder at all. They look horribly off balance against him.
The Reds look bad against a lefty with some junk?

Color me surprised.

flyer85
04-16-2006, 04:30 PM
Dunn looks terribly uncomfortable in there against Mulder. Looks like he's not seeing the ball well at all.he hit 2Hrs in a game off of Mulder last season. Mulder just isn't going to get him anything to him. Dunn will either get himself out or Mulder or walk him.

SteelSD
04-16-2006, 04:30 PM
Cunny thumber: Any pitcher who does not throw very hard and throws a lot of offspeed pitches.

edit: from a "baseball lingo" site.

Yeah, I found that definition too.

Problem was the "non-baseball" sites comprising the remainder of my Google search list.

And I'm pretty sure that if I walked around work telling folks that I was a "cunny thumber" in High School, I'd soon be an Human Resources issue.

;)

Falls City Beer
04-16-2006, 04:30 PM
The Reds look bad against a lefty with some junk?

Color me surprised.

They've hit Mulder fairly well in the past though.

flyer85
04-16-2006, 04:31 PM
Hurt leg....supposedly nothing serious.

Day to day for 5 days now.Day to day lasted 4 weeks to end the season last year.

WMR
04-16-2006, 04:32 PM
Georgie sure enjoys waxing poetic about Cards history

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm surprised LaRussa lets Scott Spiezio have that 'thing' on his chin.

guttle11
04-16-2006, 04:32 PM
But the Reds aren't even threatening Mulder at all. They look horribly off balance against him. Mulder is changing speeds well, and has his breaking ball working. That kills a team that strikes out a lot. If they can somehow keep forcing Mulder to go deep into the count and get him out fairly early, they could do some work on the pen.

Power pitchers= sheer happiness for the Reds.

Finesse pitchers= t-r-o-u-b-l-e.

pedro
04-16-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
When Dunn came up with runners on, I looked at dad and told him Dunn was a lock to strikeout swinging on a pitch in the dirt. I nailed that one. Dunn has turned into a free swinger on us. I can no longer blame Marty or Reds fans for bagging on him. It's getting frustrating.




That's funny. I turned to my cat and told him someone on redszone who doesn't understand the nature of small sample sizes is going to claim (once again) that this AB is proof of Dunn sucking if he doesn't get a hit right now.

Looks like we were both right.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:33 PM
Arroyo k's Spiezio

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:33 PM
Molina takes 1st pitch and drives it down the right field line.

AK cuts it off and holds him to a single.

westofyou
04-16-2006, 04:34 PM
They've hit Mulder fairly well in the past though.
Mo Sanford threw a 2 hitter complete game in his first start, stranger things have happened.

Caveat Emperor
04-16-2006, 04:34 PM
Day to day lasted 4 weeks to end the season last year.

If he's not on the field for the homestand when the fans are paying to see him, be worried then.

FWIW, last time Griffey went "day to day" I heard almost immediately that it was worse than was being indicated. This time, I haven't heard any rumblings of such.

OnBaseMachine
04-16-2006, 04:34 PM
That's funny. I turned to my cat and told him someone on redszone who doesn't understand the nature of small sample sizes is going to claim (once again) that this AB is proof of Dunn sucking if he doesn't get a hit right now.

Looks like we were both right.

You act as if I am a big Dunn basher. You should know better, I defend the guy everytime someone bashes him. I'm just getting frusrated over him killing rallies by swinging at pitching that would make Tony Womack blush.

BTW, I do know about small sample sizes. No need to question my baseball knowledge. I'm worried that this small sample size is going to turn into a whole season. His approach with runners on is different this year, he just looks bad.

RedsMan3203
04-16-2006, 04:34 PM
Triple-A guy drives one to the Track. Caught by Freel.

2 outs - Mulder up.

flyer85
04-16-2006, 04:35 PM
Mo Sanford threw a 2 hitter complete game in his first start, stranger things have happened.I remember Kevin Jarvis tossing one early in his "career" as well.

reds44
04-16-2006, 04:35 PM
Inning ovah