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NDRed
04-19-2006, 03:41 PM
At least our pinch hitters get a lot of at bats.

The Baumer
04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
Does an 8 pitch inning mean we will get to see Dontrelle again in the 7th?

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
I bet if a Marlins hitter gets sent out after this series he'll complain about how tough the pitching is in AAA.

Aronchis
04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
There is Che and Shafer in AA, but it is probably to early to call them up. Though Che has been dominating and Shafer has almost a year of AA experience. I would wait to July.

Roy Tucker
04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
Somewhere grown men fret, woman shed tears and a ballplayers wife orders the shrimp cocktail and a Mimosa whilst she shops at the Kenwood Towne Centre
Suddenly a shot rings out. A woman screams. A pirate ship appears on the horizon.

Doc. Scott
04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
Bottom of 6. Reds need to finish Willis by making him work.

Encarnacion (0-1, BB). Ball one. Popped to the right side, caught by Uggla. One out.

LaRue (0-1, BB). Foul. Bouncer back to the mound, easy out. Two down.

McCracken hits for White. Called strike. Foul. Another. Swing and a miss.

That's not what I had in mind. Eight freakin' pitches.

8-4 Florida after 6. David Weathers in the Reds' pen.

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 03:43 PM
Last night and today Reds pitching has now given up 32 hits.

TeamBoone
04-19-2006, 03:43 PM
BTW, who threw out Cabrera at the plate?

Dunn.

Casey_21
04-19-2006, 03:43 PM
I say bring Bailey up for a few weeks let him have a crack at doing something for us.... atleast we know he could get EVERYDAY an inning or so

True that, my man. That would be a hell of an expierience for him too. Couldn't do us any worse than we are now, thats for sure.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:43 PM
Well all i know is anyone in our system couldnt do worse then what we have up here.

smith288
04-19-2006, 03:43 PM
I dont think I could construct a worse bullpen in MVP 2005 than what we have now.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 03:44 PM
I say bring Bailey up for a few weeks let him have a crack at doing something for us.... atleast we know he could get EVERYDAY an inning or so
Have him bring a gun so he can also shoot himself in the foot.

MWM
04-19-2006, 03:44 PM
These Florida TV announcers are as bad as anyone I've heard. I'd take George and Chris any day over these two guys.

TheBigLebowski
04-19-2006, 03:44 PM
Well all i know is anyone in our system couldnt do worse then what we have up here.

What's your point?


BTW - you're wrong.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:45 PM
I dont think I could construct a worse bullpen in MVP 2005 than what we have now.

I play in a league for PC mvp 2005, I have bailey and wagner in the pen and i have won 4 of last 5 RP of the year awards with them. lol

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:45 PM
White has now given up 15 Hits, 3HRs in 9.2IP

NDRed
04-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Well all i know is anyone in our system couldnt do worse then what we have up here.


That is the truely scary part. They can and they probably would!

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 03:45 PM
David Weathers is the next pitcher.

MWM
04-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Coming into today, the Reds bully had an OPS against of .951, good for second worst in all of baseball behind...........................Kansas City.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:45 PM
How bad is it?

Our closer just showed up in the 7th to protect a 4 run deficit.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 03:46 PM
Suddenly a shot rings out. A woman screams. A pirate ship appears on the horizon.
Sliding downd from the crows nest Pete Rose and Reuban Katz set their sites on the GAB, plunder is their plan, and bats to sign the booty of the day.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 03:46 PM
I dont think I could construct a worse bullpen in MVP 2005 than what we have now.

Only if you can figure out a way to clone Brandon Duckworth.

Maybe there's a cheat code Jerry Narron can use to get his pitchers to stop throwing meatballs.

I suggest trying up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, B, A

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:46 PM
What's your point?


BTW - you're wrong.

Im just saying........get them up here and let them PROVE they can do as bad as the ones we got.

I mean our pen comes in everygame and gives up 3 runs or more, with the exception of what????? 2 times this season?

Get some others up here and just SEE if MAYBE by some chance they find a grove and give us some quality innings.

Falls City Beer
04-19-2006, 03:46 PM
The experience of this ballclub is like packing up your car, squeezing in every last suitcase and duffle bag, fishing pole and tackle box, hopping in the car, family all buckled up, and turning the key: silence.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Just be patient, Marty said the bullpen would be much improved.

savafan
04-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Would it be worth revisiting the trade ideas from a few years ago for Nagoette and Blackley from Seattle?

LincolnparkRed
04-19-2006, 03:47 PM
White has now given up 15 Hits, 3HRs in 9.2IP
That's the reason he was avaiable in January for us to sign. Other teams actually figured out he wasn't any good. If he wasn't good enough for the Pirates to resign shouldn't that be your first clue??

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Weathers with a 123 inning

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 03:47 PM
An actual 1-2-3 inning for a Reds pitcher.

Doc. Scott
04-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Top of 7 impending.

Weathers (0-1, 5.79 ERA, 3 SV) now pitching for Cincinnati. Steve quickly reminds us that the last pitch he threw landed in Busch Stadium's left-field bleachers.

Cepicky (1-3). Lined to Dunn, right at him. One out.

Abercrombie (3-3, HR). Ball one. Check swing, ball two. Popup to shallow center, and Phillips makes the play. Two down.

Willis. No, it's Alfredo Amezaga to pinch-hit. Think Womack, but younger. Fly deep to right, and Kearns makes the catch on the warning track.

First 1-2-3 of the day on the weakest part of the order.

Marlins 8-4 after 6.5.

NDRed
04-19-2006, 03:48 PM
What is the purpose of Weathers being in right now?

dsmith421
04-19-2006, 03:48 PM
True that, my man. That would be a hell of an expierience for him too. Couldn't do us any worse than we are now, thats for sure.

The fact that people are even suggesting this is incredible.

1. It starts Bailey's arbitration clock, meaning he will be under our control for less time once he's actually ready to come up and pitch in the Major Leagues. What does that mean? Let's say Bailey turns into the next Roger Clemens. Means he's jumping for Yankees money or costing the Reds eight figures a year earlier. That's significant to a small market team.

2. The guy has, so far, not shown dominating stuff in the Minors. All that will happen if he comes up is he will most likely get slaughtered and lose his confidence. Ask the Kansas City Royals if you don't believe me. As Allan Ginsburg would say, "I saw some of the greatest arms of my generation ruined by morons rushing them to the big leagues."

indyred
04-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Has there been any recent Reds pitchers that have gone on and done well for other teams after leaving here?

MWM
04-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Just be patient, Marty said the bullpen would be much improved.

:laugh:

CTA513
04-19-2006, 03:48 PM
White has now given up 15 Hits, 3HRs in 9.2IP

Almost as bad as Burns... 19 hits, 1 HR in 8.1 Innings.

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Would it be worth revisiting the trade ideas from a few years ago for Nagoette and Blackley from Seattle?
It would be worth any phone call Wayne Krivsky can make. I sure hope he's got an extended network plan, though because he's going to need to search far and wide to fix this mess.

REDSEER
04-19-2006, 03:49 PM
A 1-2-3 inning for the BP!!!!!!!!

:) :D :cool: ;) :beerme: :thumbup: :party: :clap: :luvu: :jump: :rockband: :rockband:

Casey_21
04-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Like I said, baby... Weathers and Coffie.

TheBigLebowski
04-19-2006, 03:49 PM
No more Willis. PH

Falls City Beer
04-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Has there been any recent Reds pitchers that have gone on and done well for other teams after leaving here?

No. Because this team has enlisted nothing but "last-gaspers" and "never-wuzzes" for years.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:49 PM
What is the purpose of Weathers being in right now?someone has to pitch. We will probably see Mercker as well.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Sad part is. You cant put our BEST Relievers out there everyday like we have too.

I mean yea.. if its for 1 inning. but once they go longer than that its hard to bring them out the next day especially against someone who's already seen them in the series.

As much as our bullpen is seen no wonder its hard to get outs... the Scouting report on our Bullpen has already filled up a 100 GB hard drive and a 500 page Book lmao

membengal
04-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Every year since around 2002, I ask myself this question:

"Is there anything more demoralizing as a fan than watching a succession of pitchers take the mound who don't belong on a major league roster?"

And every year, I think to myself, "no, not that I know of."

It gets real, real old. I wish Krivsky the best in trying to get actual talent onto this staff. Harang's struggles today aside, I think the only pitchers on this staff that belong on a major league staff are:

Harang, Claussen, Arroyo, Coffey, Mercker and Weathers. Six. That's six. Out of 12. Just makes one weep. And, it means that if one of those six has an off-day, that it just simply compounds the problems because you just know that one of the six other pretenders on the staff likely will before they pitch again. Vicious, vicious cycle.

pedro
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Would it be worth revisiting the trade ideas from a few years ago for Nagoette and Blackley from Seattle?


that would be a no.

RedsMan3203
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Has there been any recent Reds pitchers that have gone on and done well for other teams after leaving here?

Todd Jones.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Nolasco in. A young man that has a future as ML starter.

traderumor
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Has there been any recent Reds pitchers that have gone on and done well for other teams after leaving here?Cory Lidle, Scott Williamson, Chris Reitsma, Mike Remlinger, Ryan Dempster, Danny Graves....uh, just kidding on the last one

CTA513
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Willis is out, its now time to start comeback #2.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Whens wilson comin back?

TheBigLebowski
04-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Freel HBP!!! Rally time!

I predict a 5 run inning.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 03:52 PM
No. Because this team has enlisted nothing but "last-gaspers" and "never-wuzzes" for years.
That's after years of going with the Rickey method of the big guy who can throw hard, it's a crap shoot designed for quantity, which costs money, which disapperaed from the organization around the time the lady with the dog showed up.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:52 PM
we need to atleast cut this in half here.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Willis is out, its now time to start comeback #2.Nolasco actually has good stuff, unless he walks a bunch I am not expecting a comeback.

pedro
04-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Whens wilson comin back?

most likely never.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:53 PM
here it comes.

Send one flyin Rich

REDSEER
04-19-2006, 03:53 PM
phillips with a single

MWM
04-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Freel had an OBP of .519 coming into today and I think he's been on base every time today.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 03:53 PM
most likely never.
Just to return Marty's Chicago Box Set.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Ok I'm here to mock us to victory

Aronchis
04-19-2006, 03:54 PM
Every year since around 2002, I ask myself this question:

"Is there anything more demoralizing as a fan than watching a succession of pitchers take the mound who don't belong on a major league roster?"

And every year, I think to myself, "no, not that I know of."

It gets real, real old. I wish Krivsky the best in trying to get actual talent onto this staff. Harang's struggles today aside, I think the only pitchers on this staff that belong on a major league staff are:

Harang, Claussen, Arroyo, Coffey, Mercker and Weathers. Six. That's six. Out of 12. Just makes one weep. And, it means that if one of those six has an off-day, that it just simply compounds the problems because you just know that one of the six other pretenders on the staff likely will before they pitch again. Vicious, vicious cycle.

You mean 2001. 2002 was argueably the last "respectfull" Reds staff in terms of production, though it was a bit below normal. The 2001,03,04,05 and yes, probably 06 staff will be quite worse. Personally, I expected it this year and considering the ownership change and construction sign hanging on the FO, figure change will be slow, but steady.

savafan
04-19-2006, 03:54 PM
that would be a no.

I know neither has panned out as ML starters, but are they worse than what we have in the bullpen?

Casey_21
04-19-2006, 03:54 PM
The fact that people are even suggesting this is incredible.

1. It starts Bailey's arbitration clock, meaning he will be under our control for less time once he's actually ready to come up and pitch in the Major Leagues. What does that mean? Let's say Bailey turns into the next Roger Clemens. Means he's jumping for Yankees money or costing the Reds eight figures a year earlier. That's significant to a small market team.

2. The guy has, so far, not shown dominating stuff in the Minors. All that will happen if he comes up is he will most likely get slaughtered and lose his confidence. Ask the Kansas City Royals if you don't believe me. As Allan Ginsburg would say, "I saw some of the greatest arms of my generation ruined by morons rushing them to the big leagues."

We know that bringing him up won't actually happen.. Just saying. With our bullpen, I am open to any suggestions, and for an inning or so for a bit, won't kill the guy, and it's a bit of expierience under his belt.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 03:56 PM
Scrappy

pedro
04-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Theer's a good example of where a walk would have been better than an RBI.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Freel's off to a sick start, OBPing like crazy and stealing bases.

Question: Is his value sufficient that the Reds should start looking to move him for prospects to restock the AA and AAA squad (positional or pitching)?

MWM
04-19-2006, 03:57 PM
I guess Dunn fulfilled his role there by "knocking in a run." Funny, Florida's annoucers said they'd trade that run for getting Dunn out any day o the week.

traderumor
04-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Now that's freakin' baseball right there, get that runner in from 3rd with a ground out. That's what I'm talkin' about, Dunner.

Sorry, BF just took control of my keyboard temporarily.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:58 PM
way to go Adam and get that run in. Real scrappy, that's exactly what people have been complaing about, no K there. Attaboy.

MWM
04-19-2006, 03:58 PM
Really bad day at the plate for Austin.

pedro
04-19-2006, 03:58 PM
I know neither has panned out as ML starters, but are they worse than what we have in the bullpen?

yep. especially as neither one is picthing in the majors right now TTBOMK.

the only thing they have going for them is name recogonizition.

Doc. Scott
04-19-2006, 03:58 PM
Bottom of 7. Ricky Nolasco pitching for Florida. Acquired in the Juan Pierre deal from Chicago this past offseason. He's got a 1.80 ERA in three appearances.

Freel leading off (2-2, BB). Strike one. Ball one. Curve, strike two. Ball two. Foul off to the right. Hits him on the arm. Fourth time today Ryan's on base.

Phillips (1-3, 2 RBI). Lifted to shallow center, but Abercrombie can't make the shoestring catch! Base hit.

Two on, nobody out for the Straw.

Aurilia (1-3). Ball one. Fly to left, and Willingham is there. One out.

Dunn (0-2, BB). Here's our chance. Snap pickoff throw to second on ball one goes into center field, and both runners advance! Error on Olivo. Second and third. Chopper to the right side, and Uggla throws him out, but Freel scores. 8-5 Marlins.

"Clutch". Right?

Reds pitching staff has allowed twenty-six homers. Guess what spot in MLB that's good for.

Kearns (0-3, 2 K). He's due. Phillips at third, two out. Breaking ball, strike. Way inside, 1-1. Swing and a miss on the breaking ball. 1-2. Another bender, down and away. Count evens, 2-2. Fly to shallow right, and Uggla makes the play.

8-5 Florida after 7.

membengal
04-19-2006, 03:59 PM
I guess Dunn fulfilled his role there by "knocking in a run." Funny, Florida's annoucers said they'd trade that run for getting Dunn out any day o the week.

Hey, it's what the chattering classes want. "Productive outs". The Dunn detractors should be thrilled. How wonderfully unselfish of him...

flyer85
04-19-2006, 03:59 PM
Get em on, get em over, get em in. That's the scrappy way.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 03:59 PM
whats happening... Gameday froze and i couldnt find a radio feed today

? i know freel scored on a SH by Dunn

what kearns doin?

BCubb2003
04-19-2006, 03:59 PM
But what the casual fan usually sees in that situation is Dunn getting a walk, the guy behind him striking out, and no run at all. It's not a valid concept, but that's what fuels the cult of scrappitology.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:01 PM
Hey, it's what the chattering classes want. "Productive outs". The Dunn detractors should be thrilled. How wonderfully unselfish of him...exactly, productive outs are the keys to victory.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 04:01 PM
Get em on, get em over, get em in. That's the scrappy way.

As opposed to the Reds pitching mantra: float it over, it flies out, they trot in.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:02 PM
That ground out for a run is all well and good when ur leading or down by less than 4 lol

we need a hit to drive in 2 there or a HR or a walk...... we are running out of outs to sacrafice

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Ramirez leads off with a double. 15 hits for the Marlins today.

TeamBoone
04-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Poor Steve.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Hold on, more runs a comin'

MWM
04-19-2006, 04:02 PM
Someone should have had that ball. I'm not sure if it was Dunn or Freel.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:03 PM
but that's what fuels the cult of scrappitology.

Take the S out for the sacrifice and you get crappitology

Casey_21
04-19-2006, 04:03 PM
whats happening... Gameday froze and i couldnt find a radio feed today

? i know freel scored on a SH by Dunn

what kearns doin?

Being Wily Mo... Sorry, couldn't help myself. :evil:

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:03 PM
Gosh, only 2 Marlins have hit their first career ML HRs in this series.

Doc. Scott
04-19-2006, 04:04 PM
Top of 8. Weathers back out there.

Missed the play, but Ramirez drops a double into center. I'm sure the other posters will describe it.

Uggla pops up trying to bunt. One out.

Intentional pass to Cabrera. Fairly wise.

Willingham (1-4, 2 RBI). Strike. Check swing ball. Ball two. Strike two called. Ball three. Annnnd he walks.

Bases loaded, one out. Only one of those baserunners is really Weathers' fault, and that's Willingham.

Jacobs takes ball one, then a strike. Swing and a miss. STRUCK HIM OUT SWINGING! Two outs.

Olivo (2-4, HR). Strike called. Foul, strike two. Ball. Another foul. Liner CAUGHT by Brandon Phillips! Hit hard, too.

Weathers wriggles out of the jam. 8-5 Florida after 7.5.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:05 PM
could really use one of those 2 out things right here what they called again?

Red Stocking
04-19-2006, 04:05 PM
So here are the numbers so far for Reds Pitching over the last 16 innings
16 IP 33 hits, 20 runs, 17 k, 5 bb

...at least the K to BB ratio is good

Chip R
04-19-2006, 04:05 PM
Gosh, only 2 Marlins have hit their first career ML HRs in this series.

Only 2? That's pretty good. Success! :laugh:

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:06 PM
could really use one of those 2 out things right here what they called again?balls?

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Rookies love seeing the Reds on the schedule.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:06 PM
So here are the numbers so far for Reds Pitching over the last 16 IP

16 IP 33 hits, 20 runs, 17 k, 5 bb

...at least the K to BB ratio is good

Need a road trip to get those #'s down ? lol

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:07 PM
could be a 4 run Johnson

savafan
04-19-2006, 04:07 PM
Dunn seems an adequate first baseman, and there are defenders who are better in the outfield than he. I still don't get why he is in the outfield, he's been terrible this year.

MWM
04-19-2006, 04:08 PM
Need a road trip to get those #'s down ? lol

Nah, it's not bad pitching, it's good offense, right? ;)

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:08 PM
Dunn seems an adequate first baseman, and there are defenders who are better in the outfield than he. I still don't get why he is in the outfield, he's been terrible this year.
I put it on the guys in charge, they wan't a "sure" glove guy at 1st, that's why Hatteberg is there, the trouble is Hatte isn't a good glove anymore.

Red Stocking
04-19-2006, 04:09 PM
at least we have 2 less errors than the marlins

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:09 PM
Come on DP

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:09 PM
If Weathers can pitch 2 scoreless innings I must worship at the altar of Tackleberry.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:10 PM
Aurilia 3rd again? :dunno:

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:11 PM
Get the sticks out boys, this one is far from over.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:11 PM
I put it on the guys in charge, they wan't a "sure" glove guy at 1st, that's why Hatteberg is there, the trouble is Hatte isn't a good glove anymore.he never was.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 04:11 PM
I put it on the guys in charge, they wan't a "sure" glove guy at 1st, that's why Hatteberg is there, the trouble is Hatte isn't a good glove anymore.

But would it be safe to say that he's lost that gloving feeling?

membengal
04-19-2006, 04:11 PM
we are running out of outs to sacrafice

Point in fact, you are always running out of outs to sacrifice. Outs are to be treasured and given up as grudingly as possible. I don't know why more don't understand that...

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:11 PM
wow............got outta it with a CASEY thats it... a CASEY

NDRed
04-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Marty says "we are going to be hunting all over RFK for mugshots" and then something about a screensaver.

REDSEER
04-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Get the sticks out boys, this one is far from over.
Maybe if Weathers can go another inning.

MWM
04-19-2006, 04:12 PM
One thing overlooked is that a guy as big as Dunn provides a very large target for infielders throwing to first. His size alone would allow him to get to several otherwise errant throws.

As someone who played short and third clear through high school, having a tall first baseman sure does help in making throws over there. It changes mentally when you look over at first and see a short guy there. You become aware of the level of preceision you must have in your throws and that's not a good thing,

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Get the sticks out boys, this one is far from over.ah hope springs eternal. Can the Reds hit against their own bullpen?

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:12 PM
But would it be safe to say that he's lost that gloving feeling?
:laugh:

savafan
04-19-2006, 04:13 PM
I put it on the guys in charge, they wan't a "sure" glove guy at 1st, that's why Hatteberg is there, the trouble is Hatte isn't a good glove anymore.

Seems you'd want a sure glove guy in the outfield more so than at first base.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:13 PM
One thing overlooked is that a guy as big as Dunn provides a very large target for infielders throwing to first. His size alone would allow him to get to several otherwise errant throws. and might not trip over the bag in the process.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:13 PM
he never was.
But but....Billy Beane loved him once!!:devil:

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:13 PM
Seems you'd want a sure glove guy in the outfield more so than at first base.
They also think JR is still a gold glover.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:13 PM
Marty says "we are going to be hunting all over RFK for mugshots" and then something about a screensaver.
Classy... the voice of the Reds.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:14 PM
But but....Billy Beane loved him once!!:devil:"a pickin' machine". Beane is truly the ultimate saleman.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:14 PM
More and more Marty shows he should just have a daytime talk show.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:14 PM
Seems you'd want a sure glove guy in the outfield more so than at first base.
Dunn wouldn't be running to catch the ball as much either.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:15 PM
come on guys cut into this lead

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Classy... the voice of the Reds.We all know how Marty is a person to let things go.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Only need a FG

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:16 PM
ah hope springs eternal. Can the Reds hit against their own bullpen?

I do tend to be idiotically optimistic. I'm hoping we can bring Milton back on one day rest to pitch to us in the 8th and 9th.

Doc. Scott
04-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Bottom of 8. Eric Reed now in center, Abercrombie moves to right, Cepicky out. Nolasco still pitching.

Hatteberg (2-3). Ball one. Breaking ball misses, 2-0. Ball three. And Scotty walks.

Encarnacion up as Todd Coffey begins studying his spellbook in the bullpen. Strike to EE. Strike two. Just inside, a ball. Grounder BY THE DIVING CABRERA and down the LF line! Edwin is held to a single as they hold the leadfooted Hatteberg (HELLLOOOOOO! WOMACK???!!!) at second.

Matt Herges (he's still around?) warming in the Marlins pen.

LaRue (0-2, BB). 1-1 count. Called strike two. Low, ball two. BASE HIT TO LEFT! Bases loaded as the hold the the leadfooted Hatteberg (HELLLOOOOOO! WOMACK???!!!) at third.

Felipe Lopez on to pinch-hit for Weathers. I was honestly expecting to see Womack.

Out comes Joe Girardi to change pitchers. He replaces the right-hander Nolasco with the right-hander Herges. Hmmm. Can't say that reeks of brilliance, switch-hitter up or no. Oh, the Marlins have no lefties. Man, that's weird, considering there's an ex-catcher managing.

Lopez. Swing and a miss. Another swing and a miss. Grounder up the middle, deflected by Herges, but everyone's gonna be safe, then the wild throw by Uggla to the plate enables another run to come in! 8-5 becomes 8-7!

LaRue goes to third, Felipe to second, still nobody out! That's the third error on Florida today.

Freel (2-3, BB, HBP). Ball one. Strike looking. Ball two, in the dirt. Grounder by the mound, and the runners are hung up! LaRue is out at the plate, Lopez goes to third, and Freel to second. Fielder's choice, nobody scores, one out.

Phillips (2-4, 2 RBI). Swing and a miss. Strike two, fastball. In the dirt, ball one. Grounder up the middle, picked up by Ramirez for the 6-3 but the tying run will score! Two outs. Three RBI for Brandon. Freel stays at second.

8-8.

Straw (1-4), with a chance to show off that vaunted Clutchness. Naturally, this is pointed out by Marty. Ball one, inside. Bounced foul. Popup is caught to end the inning.

Todd Coffey will be on to face Reed, Abercrombie, and the pitcher's spot in the ninth.

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Come on fellas....a "W" could help ease the pain of this awful day.

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 04:17 PM
Encarnacion singles, 1st and 2nd with no outs.

Chip R
04-19-2006, 04:17 PM
Classy... the voice of the Reds.

Least he's gotten off the players' cases.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:17 PM
I do tend to be idiotically optimistic. I'm hoping we can bring Milton back on one day rest to pitch to us in the 8th and 9th.
I thought you wanted to win :help:

BRM
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
Is EE still struggling offensively?

NDRed
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
I just got MLB radio and after a few Reds games I have decided to go with the opposing teams radio feed. Marty is fine when he is doing announcing, he just doesn't do enough of it. I have to check CBS Sportsline to find out the count, etc.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
Is EE still struggling?
No ;)

indyred
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
Isn't Marty a living legend.....Hall Of Famer..........new to the area and team...just surprised by him getting so much heat.........

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
Larue singles, bases loaded with no outs.

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
The bases are juiced!

CTA513
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
Lopez coming in to pinch hit for Weathers.

BRM
04-19-2006, 04:18 PM
No ;)

I was joking. ;)

Red Stocking
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
now would be a nice time for jason's first hit of the 06 season

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Least he's gotten off the players' cases.The problem is with the players I don't believe it is personal, with Leatherpants it clearly is. He needs to do his gloating off the air.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
all loaded up with 0 outs

MWM
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Hatte should have been on third on EdE's hit and two runs should have scored there. Bad baserunning by Hatte. Baserunning matters and can be a big advantage for teams who do it well.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Lopezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Give us the lead Felipe :clap:

membengal
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
They're teasing me again...

jesusfan
04-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Yes! Lets go FELO!

NDRed
04-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Everybody gets into the game today.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Hatte should have been on third on EdE's hit and two runs should have scored there. Bad baserunning by Hatte. Baserunning matters and can be a big advantage for teams who do it well.

The sad thing is, Hatteberg still runs faster than a Dave Williams fastball.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Come on fellas....a "W" could help ease the pain of this awful day.
Only 12:20 here and the temp is topping 70 for the first time all year, gonna be a great day.

Even if the Sieves lose.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Hatte should have been on third on EdE's hit and two runs should have scored there. Bad baserunning by Hatte. Baserunning matters and can be a big advantage for teams who do it well.
In addition to his solid glove he brings solid station to station running.

membengal
04-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Amazing thing is that, with this offense, at last they have a chance in games like last night and today, even with the woeful pitching.

It's why the criticisms of that same offense grate so...

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Isn't Marty a living legend.....Hall Of Famer..........new to the area and team...just surprised by him getting so much heat.........Do you think it apprpriate that he should take his personal issues and gloating over the Bowden incident to the airwaves? It has NO PLACE in the Reds radio booth. Off the air he is free to say whatever he wants but the Bowden DUI certainly does not pertain to current Reds baseball.

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Isn't Marty a living legend.....Hall Of Famer..........new to the area and team...just surprised by him getting so much heat.........

Indyred: I agree sometimes but I do agree with them that Marty has gotten increasingly bitter over the past 5 years. Sometimes talks more about tomatoes than baseball.

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Big, big chance right here! Have to take advantage...too often they have this situation and get only a run or less.

The Baumer
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Hits are the only candy that comes out of this lo-Pez dispenser. I just wonder what flavor: single, double, or 4-bagger?

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
do you leave lopez in after this AB?

Chip R
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Isn't Marty a living legend.....Hall Of Famer..........new to the area and team...just surprised by him getting so much heat.........

Just because he's a living legend doesn't mean he's wong about some things. He's human, not a god.

registerthis
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Isn't Marty a living legend.....Hall Of Famer..........new to the area and team...just surprised by him getting so much heat.........

People have a lot of complaints about Marty...most of them well-founded.

I'm just getting a bit tired of every game thread turning into an analysis of Marty's performance. Forget setting up a minor league board, we should set up a board for anyone who'd like to smack Marty B. around for a bit.

savafan
04-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Come on Felipe "Hustle and" Lopez!

MWM
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Lopez mental error swinging at the first pitch there.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Isn't Marty a living legend.....Hall Of Famer..........new to the area and team...just surprised by him getting so much heat.........
HOF for announcers is an honor, but hardly a pass to immortality.

Even Harry Carey got flak in St Louis

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
get a piece of one felo

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
People have a lot of complaints about Marty...most of them well-founded.

I'm just getting a bit tired of every game thread turning into an analysis of Marty's performance. Forget setting up a minor league board, we should set up a board for anyone who'd like to smack Marty B. around for a bit.
Normally I'd agree but a lot of people are listening to the game via Marty..only natural this is where they talk about him.

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Here we go now!!! Let's win this thing!!

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
The Magic Bullet Hit

CTA513
04-19-2006, 04:22 PM
Lopez comes through and 2 runs score. :)

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
:clap:

membengal
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
Wheeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That sounded fun!!!!!!!!

It's a game again!!!

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
yesssssssss RUN SCORING PLAY

Matt700wlw
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
Indyred: I agree sometimes but I do agree with them that Marty has gotten increasingly bitter over the past 5 years. Sometimes talks more about tomatoes than baseball.

No more bitter than any other Reds fan who has sat through 5 consecutive losing seasons and 10 years without the playoffs....he's just on the air and gets to express it to the audience.

MWM
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
Krispy.

The Baumer
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
Inducing the error = scrappy.

TeamBoone
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
Do you think it apprpriate that he should take his personal issues and gloating over the Bowden incident to the airwaves? It has NO PLACE in the Reds radio booth. Off the air he is free to say whatever he wants but the Bowden DUI certainly does not pertain to current Reds baseball.

He's ragged on Bowden so much since he left that I don't think he even knows how to stop.

He did it all last year, once Bowden was named GM of the Nats.

Today, was tame... at least he didn't say his name!

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:23 PM
niceeeee......... 1 run ball game got em on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs

TOP of da order

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
single Freel and we take the lead

CTA513
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
do you leave lopez in after this AB?

I wouldnt be surprised to see him play SS and Aurilia moved to 1B.

Reds Fanatic
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
Lopez singles in a run and another scores on Uggla's error. 8-7!

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
No more bitter than any other Reds fan who has sat through 5 consecutive losing seasons and a 10 years without the playoffs....he's just on the air.
Selling product

Reds baseball

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
he's just on the air.
And paid to call the game, he's not a fan on a MB, big difference there.

guttle11
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
Inducing the error = scrappy.

Let this be a lesson. You can't induce an error when you strikeout.:devil:

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
If the Reds actually get a lead could the pen hold it in the 9th?

Red Stocking
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
gamecast is showing 2nd and 3rd nobody out...

TheBigLebowski
04-19-2006, 04:24 PM
yeah!!!

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:25 PM
Guys can we please drop the Marty crap in the game thread??? There is a game going on....

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:25 PM
If the Reds actually get a lead could the pen hold it in the 9th?
No, that's why we need more then just taking the lead, we need 10 runs.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 04:25 PM
No more bitter than any other Reds fan who has sat through 5 consecutive losing seasons and 10 years without the playoffs....he's just on the air and gets to express it to the audience.

Oh, I respect that he hasn't been fired yet. I'd be so sarcastic on the radio if I had the PBP job that I'd probably melt the circuitry in the microphone.

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:25 PM
If the Reds actually get a lead could the pen hold it in the 9th?
http://www.spookshows.com/toys/time/tbomb.gif

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:25 PM
He's ragged on Bowden so much since he left that I don't think he even knows how to stop.

He did it all last year, once Bowden was named GM of the Nats.

Today, was tame... at least he didn't say his name!Honestly though it makes the Reds look low class. Marty, please take the high road.

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
No more bitter than any other Reds fan who has sat through 5 consecutive losing seasons and a 10 years without the playoffs....he's just on the air.

Well said Matt. That is why I give him some leeway. I feel like he knows my pain.

Red Stocking
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
No, that's why we need more then just taking the lead, we need 10 runs.


just to gurantee extra innings

Walkerforpres
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
gamecast is showing 2nd and 3rd nobody out...

This is why we need a designated PBP guy for these threads. LOL I'm confused.

Wait....Sportsline has hit a snag. Grr.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
Richie is due!!!!!!!!!!!!

Falls City Beer
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
If Marty were to call the game and dog the players (even if his dogging were off the mark), I wouldn't have a problem with it because he's got a great game-calling voice and delivery. The problem is he doesn't call the game, and he dogs past GMs.

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
Gotta get at least the tying run in here. No excuses if they don't.

TheBigLebowski
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
d'oh

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:26 PM
Guys can we please drop the Marty crap in the game thread??? There is a game going on....isn't he the one that brought up Ol' Leatherpants? With a game going on.

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
lets go phillips show em why they should get rid of 2 of those 2B

traderumor
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
hey, hey, the fish D finally made a play

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
isn't he the one that brought up Ol' Leatherpants? With a game going on.
We're not hall of famers ;)

registerthis
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Normally I'd agree but a lot of people are listening to the game via Marty..only natural this is where they talk about him.

Yeah, but it's getting a bit ridiculous. When the Womack and Aurilia bashing got out of hand, I felt the same way. I'm not saying the criticism unfounded, just that it's getting to be complete overkill.

And Marty is the only one keeping me up to speed with the Reds these days, so I hear pretty much everything that everyone else is.

Anyway, not meaning to hijack the game thread...t'would just be nice if we could get through a game thread without it turning into a Marty bash-fest.

Redlegs23
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Someone please give some PBP. What happened with Freel?

Chip R
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Freel hit into a FC. LaRue out at home Freel to 2nd Lopez to 3rd 1 out.

Red Leader
04-19-2006, 04:27 PM
What's the score / situation? Is that reported in this thread?

CTA513
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
Phillips grounds out & Lopez scores!

Tie game 8-8

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
Sorry let's get back to the game. Tie ball game. 8 all

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
What's the score / situation? Is that reported in this thread?
What? think this is a game thread?!? :devil:

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
isn't he the one that brought up Ol' Leatherpants? With a game going on.
It was a 5 second comment...he didn't dwell on it like what's going on here.

Come on Rich...give us the lead!!!

IslandRed
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
Phillips groundout but scores the tying run!

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssss

WTG PHILLIPS

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
The problem is he doesn't call the gamethat's why I quit listening.

guttle11
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
Productive outs tie games.

TeamBoone
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
Woo hoo! tie ballgame!

There's another slam. Somebody (didn't catch who) slapped the GM up side the face and has always been Marty's hero.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
That Phillips guy is classy and scrappy.

paintmered
04-19-2006, 04:28 PM
This is the game thread folks. The Marty bashing thread is everywhere else.

Blimpie
04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
This offense would give the devil nightmares....

The Baumer
04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
BP ties it with an RBI ground out. 8-8 all.

Now runner at 2nd, with Aurillia at bat. 2 outs.

TeamBoone
04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
Guys can we please drop the Marty crap in the game thread??? There is a game going on....

How can that be done when most of us are listening to him?

jesusfan
04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
Rich is gonna clutch up!! right here!

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
cmon Richie your due....

philliips gets the tieing run across :) Freel stuck on 2B

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:29 PM
It was a 5 second comment...he didn't dwell on it like what's going on here.

Come on Rich...give us the lead!!!No hes just mentioned it every game since it happened. He's definitely not dwelling on it. It happened 3 days ago, it's old news.

CTA513
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
So is it Mercker or Coffey in the 9th?

NDRed
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
Marty "Nice to hear from John "Boom Boom" (???) he once slapped the general manager of this team up along side his head, that's why he has always been my hero"


WHAT????

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
GAME RESET:

Rich Aurillia Batting

Freel on 2nd

Tie Ballgame at 8-8

westofyou
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
This is the game thread folks. The Marty bashing thread is everywhere else.
True, but who wants to drink the water from a sewer pipe?:evil:

guttle11
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
Dunn's gonna hit a walk-off.

Red Leader
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
I've definately been impressed with Brandon Phillip's play to date.

registerthis
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
How can that be done when most of us are listening to him?

Funny, I'm listening to him, and I'm refraining from making comments about it.

Enough already!

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
How can that be done when most of us are listening to him?
He made a simple comment and it's taken over the gamethread. I'm sorry, but that's not right.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:30 PM
So is it Mercker or Coffey in the 9th?
Drink :all_cohol

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
thats ok guys ... .great inning.. way to get back in this.

Dunn Kearns hatte due up for us in the bot of the 9th :)

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
Marty "Nice to hear from John "Boom Boom" (???) he once slapped the general manager of this team up along side his head, that's why he has always been my hero"


WHAT????he's not dwelling on it.

savafan
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
Brandon Phillips has looked pretty good since joining the Reds.

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
Have to, have to, have to keep it right where it's at, bullpen.....

TheBigLebowski
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
I'm going to need to smuggle in alcohol to my office for these day games considering our bullpen.

Caveat Emperor
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
He made a simple comment and it's taken over the gamethread. I'm sorry, but that's not right.

Why do I get the feeling that today's game thread is going to result in another sticky being posted on the main board?

jesusfan
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
Okay... cmon bullpen, come through one time please

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
coffy on to face the bottem of the marlins lineup

membengal
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Richie pop out, but a rather nice rally to tie the game. Would have bet a lot against this game getting tied after being down 5-0 with Willis pitching. Job well done to the offense to get us back to this point. Hoping against hope for a 1-2-3 ninth for the bullpen, and then Dunn/Kearns/EE ending this thing.

flyer85
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
He made a simple comment and it's taken over the gamethread. I'm sorry, but that's not right.He made a nasty and spiteful comment that had nothing to do with the game. He doesn't like Bowden, we've known that for years.

Unassisted
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Aurilia pop fly ended the 8th, for those not listening/watching.

registerthis
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Why do I get the feeling that today's game thread is going to result in another sticky being posted on the main board?

We can only hope...

Falls City Beer
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm going to need to smuggle in alcohol to my office for these day games considering our bullpen.

Two words: office fridge.

Blimpie
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Who's leading off the 9th for the Fish?

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Reed PH for CePicky
Abercrombie
Pitcher slot

redsfanmia
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Got to love Marty, he is using the air ways to continue bad mouthing someone who hasnt been here for a few year, nice job Marty.

Matt700wlw
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
All of a sudden, we've got a game again :)

And Coffee in a must-hold situation.

GoReds
04-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Hi all. Just dropped by to see how the pitchers duel between Harang and Willis is going.

Ya know, since both of them are on my FB team.

<groan>

indyred
04-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Better bring in Coffee....didn't mean to start a Marty slap fest....just new and wondered what was up with him....sorry..atleast they got some runs during it ......

flynn78
04-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Brandon Phillips has looked pretty good since joining the Reds.

You are right. He has pleasantly surprised me with his play early.

Chip R
04-19-2006, 04:33 PM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45010

redsfan30
04-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Nice to keep the leadoff runner off the bases.

1 out.

KronoRed
04-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Lopez remains in the game

GridironGrace
04-19-2006, 04:34 PM
aawwwwwwwwwwwww

Aurilia goes to 2B Lopez stays at SS and phillips takes a seat.

Standing Ovation!!!!!!! (for phillips)