4/20/06 - Reds vs Brewers Game Thread

[KronoRed]

Right now..somewhere..a Pirate fan is saying "glad we don't have that guy anymore"

[GAC]

If Williams can't get that slow curve to work.... he's toast!

[WMR]

One more bad start from Williams and he should be banished to the pen.

This guy is all kinds of awful.

What in the HELL was Obie thinking acquiring this stiff????

Conspiracy Alert:

DanO knew he was canned, knew he had an offer from Milwaukee, and decided to get us Womack and Williams to stick the knife in one more time b/f he left.

End Conspiracy.

[paintmered]

Krivsky wouldn't have done the trade. You can take my word for it.

He might have still traded Casey, but not for Williams.

[Gandalf the Red]

http://tampabay.devilrays.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_408305.jpg

That is one ugly mug. Just sayin'

http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/somethingaboutmary/images/somethingaboutmary_10.jpg

"Remember, Ted: It's a sumo culture. They pay by the pound over there."

[StillFunkyB]

what is the reds infatuation with soft tossing lefties..........

Wishing they would "find" another Jamie Moyer.

They thing is, Moyer can pitch. The guys the Reds have, can't.

[KronoRed]

:confused:

EDIT: you edited your post
I saw 2 for inning..thought it was outs

[cincyinco]

Boo.. BOO!

[KronoRed]

Bases loaded..again

[reds44]

oh boy

[edabbs44]

He has to be kidding. Krivsky has to be on the phones. If not, he should be fired. At least Liquored Up Bowden would be trying to make a move.

[paintmered]

This could get ugly PDQ.

Bases now full of Brewhahas.

[fielder's choice]

Wow

[indyred]

A triple play would be nice
has there been one yet this season in all of mlb

[reds44]

Time to get the Lizard on the bus north. Or Belisle in the rotation

[Redlegs23]

How in the world did Dave Williams win 10 games with the Pirates last year. Amazing.

[KronoRed]

Good God.

[WMR]

Krivsky wouldn't have done the trade. You can take my word for it.

http://www.ket.org/images/nola/RERA__.1037773.200x150.jpg

edit: "Don't take my word for it!"

[edabbs44]

Oh my God....this is starting to get ridiculous.

[GAC]

nice play Hat! :rolleyes:

[TC81190]

:clap:

[KronoRed]

How in the world did Dave Williams win 10 games with the Pirates last year. Amazing.
I know in one game he faced Eric Milton.

[reds44]

Hatteberg needs to go away

[flyer85]

Hatty having a good night

[Caveat Emperor]

I'd be willing to bet that they could've achieved the same result by just converting Sean Casey to a SP as they get with Dave Williams.

[indyred]

Grande is clueless on infield fly rule

[OnBaseMachine]

Reds defense. :laugh:

[paintmered]

If infield fly was called, isn't the batter out?

[captainmorgan07]

geesh we need aurilla

[Dunner44]

Please Dave, strike out the pitcher, or get a DP ball to home.

[StillFunkyB]

WTG Hatt -E- burg.

[griffeyfreak4]

could i get a score?

[KronoRed]

Just need a DP now

[TheBigLebowski]

What a joke.

[Big Klu]

Aurilia would have caught that.

[paintmered]

CE, you wanna handle pbp?

Pretty please with sugar on top?

[CTA513]

Hatteberg makes Aurilia look like a gold glover at 1st.

[flyer85]

The real question is, would they wreck from gawking at the giant jesus statue?ah, Touchdown Jesus

[Walkerforpres]

Again.....a PBP would be spectacular right now. Anyone?

[reds44]

Ohka did a 360

[cincyinco]

He Rings up Ohka! WOOOO!

[KronoRed]

Reds up 2-1..bottom of the 2nd bases full of brewers

[Dunner44]

what happened?

[TheBigLebowski]

2-1 Reds

Bases juiced

1 down

Williams still blows

[reds44]

what happened?
k

[Big Klu]

If infield fly was called, isn't the batter out?

Foul ball. Infield fly rule is only in effect if the ball is fair.

[griffeyfreak4]

wow

[indyred]

How in the world did Dave Williams win 10 games with the Pirates last year. Amazing.
it is amazing..........what did dan see in this guy

[reds44]

Good news:

Williams have 46 pitches.

[KronoRed]

Tie game on the sac fly.

[WMR]

Jeez Dunn looked like Chad Pennington with that throw

[paintmered]

Flyout to Dunn. Runner tags from 3rd and scores. Ball gets past Valentin and the runners advance.

E-2.

[flyer85]

Williams gives new meaning to a "rolling curve".

[reds44]

2-2

[indyred]

if they get out of this inning tied.....job well done

[paintmered]

Correction, E-7.

[TC81190]

Dunn gets the throwing error. :rolleyes:

[Redlegs23]

Good news:

Williams have 46 pitches.

Have you seen our bullpen?

[reds44]

Williams gives new meaning to a "rolling curve".
Problem is he has a rolling fastball too

[Big Klu]

Flyout to Dunn. Runner tags from 3rd and scores. Ball gets past Valentin and the runners advance.

E-2.

That can't be an E-2! The ball never got to him!

Sorry...I was writing my post while you were making your correction.

[KronoRed]

That was a good throw..I blame the catcher

[CTA513]

Aurilia would have caught that.

Aurilia needs to be playing at 1st instead of Hatteberg.

[reds44]

Have you seen our bullpen?
Yes

and somehow I still think it is good news.

[Reds Nd2]

E-7

[WMR]

Williams gives new meaning to a "rolling curve".

Whenever I see that 'rolling curve' headed towards the plate, I'm always amazed when it doesn't get absolutely crushed. Every time.

[paintmered]

That can't be an E-2! The ball never got to him!

I'm listening to Marty, if you want to handle pbp, it's all yours.

[Caveat Emperor]

CE, you wanna handle pbp?

Pretty please with sugar on top?

I would, but I'm reviewing for a Trusts & Estates exam on Tuesday -- I'm available to chime a comment or three in, but I really do need to be able to split my attention tonight. Can't give the full attention to the Game Thread.

[reds44]

That was a good throw..I blame the catcher
Wasn't Dunn or Javy's fault.

It hit the runner, nothing you can do.

[indyred]

walk...bases juiced.........

[KronoRed]

Bases loaded..again.

[flyer85]

Poor Dave, he is scared to throw it over the plate.

[reds44]

sigh

[paintmered]

Williams is already over 50 tosses. I can't call them pitches in good faith.

Bases still loaded for Jenkins.

[edabbs44]

DWill with 54 pitches. Maybe they should enforce the Tandem Rule when Williams is pitching.

[Reds Nd2]

That was a good throw..I blame the catcher

The ball hit Weeks as he was sliding. LaRue never had an opportunity to make the catch.

[TheBigLebowski]

I cannot believe how bad he is.

[2001MUgrad]

How in the heck can someone that throws the ball so slow not throw a freakin strike. Its a 49 MPH fastball. You could find a little leaguer better than Williams.

[KronoRed]

Nice goatee

[Cant Touch This]

Mysterious strike zone. Can't come up with a better adjective.

[flyer85]

Problem is he has a rolling fastball toomajority of major league pitchers throw a changeup with more velocity than a Williams "fastball".

[Big Klu]

I'm listening to Marty, if you want to handle pbp, it's all yours.

I apologized...Look up and you will see it. :)

[CTA513]

Williams is already over 50 tosses. I can't call them pitches in good faith.

Bases still loaded for Jenkins.

We will be seeing Belisle tonight.

[indyred]

0-2 on jenkins.get a k here

[KronoRed]

The ball hit Weeks as he was sliding. LaRue never had an opportunity to make the catch.
LaRue might have been the only one who had a shot since he's in the dugout :D

[Matt700wlw]

He hit 89!!

:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

[Caveat Emperor]

I cannot believe how bad he is.

Maybe if he switched from Haynes to something like Fruit of the Loom, he might stop pitching like a total Jimmy.

[indyred]

2-2 on jenkins

[flyer85]

Even when DWilliams gets ahead he has not pitch to put them away.

[2001MUgrad]

What is that?? An Effus pitch??

Talk about hangers.

[KronoRed]

No more lefties from the Pirates

[Falls City Beer]

I said on Saturday that Williams was throwing the worst game I'd ever seen.

[reds44]

LaRue never had an opportunity to make the catch.
Of course not, it would be hard to do from the bench. If LaRue had a chance to get it, it should have been an error on Dunn.

:D

[Gandalf the Red]

Chris Welsh: "the problem with a slow curveball..."

Is having a matching slow fastball?

[indyred]

full count.......

[Reds Nd2]

LaRue might have been the only one who had a shot since he's in the dugout :D

:laugh: The first of my many errors this season.

[edabbs44]

Williams looks like he is short arming it.

He still sucks.

Walks in a run. Take him out.

[paintmered]

Williams runs the count full to Jenkins then proceeds to walk in a run. 3-2 Milwaukee.

Egads.

[KronoRed]

Walks in a run..this is great stuff.

[2001MUgrad]

This is 100 % Not acceptable. I'm going to start kicking stuff.

This guy gets paid. That is horrible, flat out horrible.

[indyred]

walk...goes from 0-2 to walk........3-2 brewers now

[Fullboat]

No more lefties from the Pirates

No more anything from the Pirates.

[reds44]

ohh boy

[Matt700wlw]

I'm about to throw things

[paintmered]

Belisle warming up in the pen.

[Cant Touch This]

Do Valentin and ScottyHatt need new leather?

[GAC]

Pitiful pitiful pitiful

Walks in the lead run

3-2 now

61 pitches for Williams

[flyer85]

This is painful. COuld be 7-2 right here

[edabbs44]

Phew. Out of it.

[Sabo17]

No more anything from the Pirates.

Here Here!!

[WMR]

I wonder if we could get a cam to find DanO. I wonder if he has a smile on his face like that day Paul Wilson got lit up in the first inning by the Dodgers.

[paintmered]

Flyout to Dunn.

Inning over. And none too soon. 3-2 Brewahs after 2.

[2001MUgrad]

This guy is worse than Jimmy Haynes and Joey Hamilton combined.

[Big Klu]

http://www.greengiant.com/products/images/gg_corn.jpg

[KronoRed]

That man is a bad pitcher

Save us Krivsky

[indyred]

wow.dunner caught that fly in the palm.almost bounced out..inning over

[reds44]

jebus

dont let Williams go back out there.

[TheBigLebowski]

Honestly, this guy either needs to be cut or in AAA. He is NOT a ML pitcher, and it is embarrasing to have him out there.

[CrackerJack]

Thanks DanO!! I'm sure he's watching this game with a smirk on his face.

[Caveat Emperor]

This is what happens when you can't throw any pitch by a hitter for a strike. No ability to put a hitter away with 2 strikes.

[paintmered]

I wonder if we could get a cam to find DanO. I wonder if he has a smile on his face like that day Paul Wilson got lit up in the first inning by the Dodgers.
:obrien: :obrien: :obrien:

[Falls City Beer]

My Carlos Lee grand slam prediction? Huh? Huh?

[reds44]

That man is a bad pitcher

Save us Krivsky
He saved us from Tony, Dave isn't far behind.

[KronoRed]

I wonder if we could get a cam to find DanO. I wonder if he has a smile on his face like that day Paul Wilson got lit up in the first inning by the Dodgers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/1.jpg

[forfreelin04]

This is what happens when you can't throw any pitch by a hitter for a strike. No ability to put a hitter away with 2 strikes.


This is exactly what I was thinking

[2001MUgrad]

This is what happens when you can't throw any pitch by a hitter for a strike. No ability to put a hitter away with 2 strikes.

YOu have to be able the throw it faster than 49 MPH to get it by ML hitters.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Per ESPN gamecast, all of DW's pitches are up in the strike zone--we're lucky he's walking them rather than letting them hit it.

[KronoRed]

We're gonna need to score about 12 to win with that type of pitching

[CTA513]

Dave Williams has probably walked more people by himself than the rest of the starters combined.

[paintmered]

Felipe Lopez leads off the Reds 3rd inning. Brewahs playing Lopez to pull.

Base hit.

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez grounds out to 2nd.

[TC81190]

Moneyball reference by Mr. Stewart.

[WMR]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Kronosb/1.jpg

Yup! Thanks Krono, that was the exact image I was thinking of. Ugh, that made me so sick. The Reds were getting absolutely creamed while DanO and his flunky were laughing their asses off.

[paintmered]

Hat up after hitting a Casey in his previous AB. Hat runs the count full. Bouncer up the middle.

[paintmered]

Narron tossed.

[indyred]

is it 10 below out there...nice coat jerry

[TC81190]

Narron got tossed. W00t.

[CrackerJack]

terrible call

[WMR]

Jerry Narron has been thrown out. WOW, he got his money's worth too!

[Reds Fanatic]

Narron just got tossed from the game. Bad call 1st basemen's foot looked to be off the bag.

[OnBaseMachine]

How come the Reds always get the crappy ends of the calls? I swear, umps hate this team for some reason.

[TC81190]

Really givin him the business.

[indyred]

that head bob rocked jerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Big Klu]

Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry!

[MasonBuzz3]

there is no way his foot was on the base

[2001MUgrad]

Wow, that was horrible. Man.

We've seen some horrible umping this year so far.

[reds44]

Wow Narron

that was actually good to see

[Caveat Emperor]

Narron just got tossed from the game. Bad call 1st basemen's foot looked to be off the bag.

The correct response here is to pick first base up and throw it into right field.

[CTA513]

Narron should have headbutted the ump for making that call... or atleast give him some glasses.

[Caseyfan21]

I think that was a case of getting tossed just to try and fire up the troops. Either that or the 1st base ump refused to ask for help.

[Highlifeman21]

Narron tossed.


While I think it was a horrible call at first, Narron probably got sick of watching Williams pitch. Looked like Fielder's foot slipped off the bag when he bellyflopped.

[Matt700wlw]

Jerry needs a pair of these

http://www.dixiesgifts.com/groucho.jpg

[GAC]

Hey ump! The Brewers don't need anymore help!

Terrible call

[paintmered]

Bucky F'n Dent now at the helm for the Redlegs.

Dunn at the dish now.

[indyred]

does jerry have fake mustache in his locker and sneak back on the bench.........probally glad he doesn't have to watch his middle relief tonight

[2001MUgrad]

I don't know whats worse.

The fact that Dave Williams gets paid or that that umpire gets paid.

[edabbs44]

At least we have confirmation that Narron is alive.

[Caveat Emperor]

Bucky F'n Dent now at the helm for the Redlegs.

This "Flash Forward to July 15th" is brought to you by Dr. Emmit Brown Industries

[kbrake]

That is Jerry displaying his displeasure with the pitching and defense of his team. Someone is upset with his team and taking it out on the umps. No doubt the guy was off the bag, but no way Narron gets tossed over that if Williams isnt getting shelled again. Just too bad Narron didnt get tossed before he filled out the line-up card.

[KronoRed]

Boooooo

[Reds Nd2]

I think that was a case of getting tossed just to try and fire up the troops. Either that or the 1st base ump refused to ask for help.

He went down and talked to the homeplate umpire.

[edabbs44]

I think Gruler hit him with a BB gun.

Scott Kazmir left Thursday night's game against the Red Sox with an apparent left forearm strain.

Dunn with a line drive single to right.

[paintmered]

Dunn gets a hit. 2 out single for Adam.

See? He hits singles too.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn lines a hit to right.

[KronoRed]

A little life from Dunn and Kearns

GEE

Why aren't they batting 3-4 ;)

[paintmered]

Kearns digs in and almost takes off Ohka's head. 2 on, 2 out.

[indyred]

That is Jerry displaying his displeasure with the pitching and defense of his team. Someone is upset with his team and taking it out on the umps. No doubt the guy was off the bag, but no way Narron gets tossed over that if Williams isnt getting shelled again. Just too bad Narron didnt get tossed before he filled out the line-up card.
what kind of overall grade do you give narron so far this season...........

[reds44]

2 out rally

[CrackerJack]

wow that was a melon chopper by Kearns

[Big Klu]

Kearns just about took Ohka's head off with that one!

[OnBaseMachine]

Kearns just about took of Ohka's head with that hit.

That horrible call cost the Reds a run.

[Gandalf the Red]

I don't know whats worse.

The fact that Dave Williams gets paid or that that umpire gets paid.

I don't know. DanO's binder says that's a #1-caliber umpire.

[paintmered]

The class of 1998 puts together back to back hits.

[reds44]

what kind of overall grade do you give narron so far this season...........
B+

[indyred]

need a big clutch hit here JV

[Big Klu]

A little life from Dunn and Kearns

GEE

Why aren't they batting 3-4 ;)


Because they are hitting 4-5! :D

[OnBaseMachine]

Thanks ump.

[kbrake]

Other then line-ups and the time he made Lopez bunt early in a game, I dont think he has done that bad, especially with the pitching and defense he has been given. Seriously though an 8 year old could get these line-ups filled out better. For an overall grade I dont know I would have to think about it for awhile.

[paintmered]

Senor Valentin steps in for his chance to avoid an out.

Bouncer to Okha. End of inning. 2 stranded. 3-2 Brewahs middle of 3rd.

[KronoRed]

This is one of those games where it's all going to go wrong

[KronoRed]

Please tell me Dave is out?

[Reds Fanatic]

This is one of those games where it's all going to go wrongIt seems like every time the Reds play in Milwaukee we have those games.

[KronoRed]

Williams back out..the Brewers can't stop grinning

[Big Klu]

Williams answers the bell for Round 3.

[edabbs44]

Williams coming out to the mound reminds me of when Apollo came out for one more round vs Drago.

[Caveat Emperor]

Dave Williams back on the mound for another inning:

http://www.plymouthpolice.com/images/radar.jpg

[Reds Fanatic]

Please tell me Dave is out?
No unfortunately he is still out there.

[paintmered]

Williams is still in there to torture us some more.

Bill Hall, the aforementioned Reds Killer leads off the inning. Home run. 4-2 Brewahs.

[edabbs44]

HR Hall...take him out.

[KronoRed]

Bill Hall..HR

[CrackerJack]

Dum dee dum 4-2

[indyred]

hall goes deep

[Matt700wlw]

Bill :censored: Hall

[Reds Fanatic]

Here we go again. Hall homers. 4-2 Milwaukee.

[KronoRed]

Bill Hall will now be known as Reds Killer

[jesusfan]

Newsflash: Dave Williams Is Horrible!

[Reds Nd2]

And the hits just keep on a comin.

[KronoRed]

Upper deck shot..nice

[TC81190]

Woooooow.

[Gandalf the Red]

Please tell me Dave is out?

Dave "Sure-win" Williams still tossin 'em...and promptly gives up a long one...

[kbrake]

Now I see what LaRussa was talking about with this guy.

[Highlifeman21]

Bill :censored: Hall


Bill Hall, Reds killer

[CrackerJack]

Night Ranger lyrics in the game thread and Dave Williams pitching...someone do something.

[indyred]

Dave Williams back on the mound for another inning:

http://www.plymouthpolice.com/images/radar.jpg
lol....classic

[Sham]

We cannot compete with this crap.

[KYRedsFan]

If one ever thinks it's GABP, and not the pitching, I show you Bill Hall

[KronoRed]

Now I see what LaRussa was talking about with this guy.
He can't wait to tee off on this.

[paintmered]

Richie "I want to be Ryan Freel" Weeks steps in after the rally killing home run. Williams gets ahead early 0-2. Grounder to Felipe. 1 out.

[Cyclone792]

Bill Hall being a Reds killer ... what else is new?

I guess I might have to update this post after this series in Milwaukee: http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=940556&postcount=6

[edabbs44]

Maybe Dent should audition for Narron's job by yanking Williams.

[KronoRed]

"the lamest of the lame, the deadest of the dead"

[CTA513]

Williams will probably be over 100 pitches by the time he gets done with this inning... what a joke.

[KronoRed]

Maybe Dent should audition for Narron's job by yanking Williams.
And firing him..out of a cannon into the sun

[Aronchis]

If one ever thinks it's GABP, and not the pitching, I show you Bill Hall

If this was GAB, Williams would have already given up 3-4 homers by now. Several were GAB shots that fell into mitts in the first.

[paintmered]

Fielder takes his turn for batting practice. Blooper into center after Freel got a late break. 1 out single.

[Reds Nd2]

380 feet on Halls HR.

[KronoRed]

Dbl.

[indyred]

D Lee 2 broken bones in his hand...cubs fans doomed again.......

[paintmered]

And the inning continues. Liner deep to left center. It will bounce over the wall for a ground rule double.

1 out, runners on 2nd and 3rd. No mas por favor, no mas.

[CrackerJack]

alright, please, enough with Williams. Geesh.

[NavyRedsFan]

If one ever thinks it's GABP, and not the pitching, I show you Bill Hall
I never thought it was the ballpark, it's just our good hitting and not so good pitching.

[reds44]

get
him
out

[Reds Fanatic]

Another double. When will this end. Williams has now given up 6 hits and 4 walks in 2 1/3 innings.

[WMR]

That pitch was literally what you'll see in batting practice

[KYRedsFan]

If this was GAB, Williams would have already given up 3-4 homers by now. Several were GAB shots that fell into mitts in the first.

We're a traveling home run display. The Washington Generals of pitching. For our next act, Valentin will pull Hall's pants at the plate and throw a bucket of confetti at Fielder.

[flyer85]

I guess his name is David T Williams

[KronoRed]

Single..run scores.

[edabbs44]

Yank him Bucky.

[Reds Fanatic]

Now the pitcher gets a hit. This is unreal. 5-2 Milwaukee.

[paintmered]

Swing and a ground ball for a hit up the middle. Fielder scores. 5-2 Brewahs. Still only 1 out.

Please stop the insanity.

[redsfan30]

People are wasting thier time spewing venom at Eric Milton.....Dave Williams is 10 times worse than Milton could ever be.

[KronoRed]

Save us Bucky

[jesusfan]

OMG! bring in Belisle Please!

[flyer85]

He is moving in on my pregame prediction

[reds44]

awesome

[smith288]

Williams should be in the all star game.... for home run derby. I loathe his aquisition.

[indyred]

okah with hit...hate when infield creeps up like that

[paintmered]

Tom Hume to the mound to talk to Williams about appropriate wedding gifts and eyelid breathing techniques and stuff...

[KronoRed]

1st and 3rd..only 1 out

[WMR]

Wow, I would love to get a shot at that curveball.

[Matt700wlw]

Toma Ohka

http://www.utm.edu/departments/athletics/athletics/camps/baseball/tee.jpg

[Reds Fanatic]

That fact we are begging for the bullpen shows how bad Williams is.

[Caveat Emperor]

Honestly, if it's me, I cut Williams when he gets back to the dugout and then instruct the team hotel to dump all his luggage on the sidewalk.

[CTA513]

Dave might want to try throwing right handed, because he sure stinks throwing left handed.

[edabbs44]

Tom Hume comes out and smashes a chair over Williams' head! Then EdE gives him a DDT! It's pandemonium!

[TheBigLebowski]

Wow.....just..wow.

[flyer85]

I do understand why he is afraid to throw it over the plate

[KronoRed]

Sac fly..run scores

[reds44]

El Lizardo

[paintmered]

Double play ball would be nice but Williams isn't good enough to get it. Instead he gets a fly ball to Dunn. Miller tags and scores from 3rd.

2 outs. 6-2 Brewahs.

[Falls City Beer]

If Clark hits one out, I will have hit my prediction almost precisely.