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OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 08:36 AM
Compared vs the rest of majors

Games-16
Runs scored-107(1st)
Run per game-6.7(1st)
RC/27-7.10(1st)
Doubles-40(1st)
Home Runs-32(1st)
Extra-Base hits-73(1st)
AB/HR-17.6(1st)
Batting average-.279(10th)
OBP-.375(3rd)
SLG-.531(1st)
OPS-.906(1st)
Walks-83(1st)
Strikeouts-113(3rd)
IsoP-.252(1st)
SecA-.423(1st)
BB/PA-.128(1st)
P/PA-3.92(3rd)

Keep in mind this is not just the NL we're talking about, this is compared to all of baseball. The Reds currently have the best offense in baseball. The only stat the Reds don't rank in the top three in, is batting average.

Speaking of batting average: I wonder how many Reds fans(or Marty) are out there wondering how the Reds have scored all these runs while only having the 10th best batting average and having struckout the the third most times in baseball? Easy. The Reds are taking walks and getting on base(.375), hitting for power(73 XBH), and working the count deep in their favor and getting to the opposing teams' bullpen early.(3.92 P/PA).

The Reds modern day team record for runs scored in a season is 865 runs by the 1999 Reds, however, the 1894 Reds scored 910 runs. The 2005 Reds broke the franchise single season home run record by hitting 222 dingers. The 1974 squad received 693 walks. Most doubles belong to the 2005 Reds...with 335. 1894 Reds had a .363 OBP, modern day .357 by the '76 Reds. Highest SLG- .451 by 1999 Reds.

We could see a good number of these records succumb to the 2006 Reds.

The '06 Reds offense is on pace to score 1083 runs, 405 doubles, 324 home runs, .375 OBP, .531 SLG, and 840 walks. All those of those would surpass the previous franchise records, but obviously those projections are going to drop as the season gets older. But, I could definitely see this team breaking some records.

My point - I love this offense; it's fun to watch. The pitching sucks, but enjoy the offense. Adam Dunn is developing into one of the greatest Reds hitters ever. Felipe Lopez has developed into the best hitting shortstop in the NL. Edwin Encarnacion is blossoming before our eyes. Austin Kearns appears to be re-forming into a very good hitter. Brandon Phillips is looking like a possible steal...another Felipe? If that's not enough, the Reds could have a couple more impact bats on the horizon in young Jay Bruce and Joey Votto.

Blimpie
04-21-2006, 08:45 AM
My point - I love this offense; it's fun to watch. The pitching sucks, but enjoy the offense. Adam Dunn is developing into one of the greatest Reds hitters ever. Felipe Lopez has developed into the best hitting shortstop in the NL. Edwin Encarnacion is blossoming before our eyes. Austin Kearns appears to be re-forming into a very good hitter. Brandon Phillips is looking like a possible steal...another Felipe? If that's not enough, the Reds could have a couple more impact bats on the horizon in young Jay Bruce and Joey Votto.Nice post, OBM...although I am sure that we will soon see the counter-arguments emerge :cool:

I am also excited about this offense; however, we have not yet seen the same caliber of starting pitching from our opponents as we did through the first 16 games of last season. I still think this offense is frightening to face, but Maddux, Willis, and Carpenter are the only real dominant SPs we have seen (and we won two of those games) No matter--the offense is getting production in all nine batting spots right now, so they are as close to a "slump proof" team offensively as we have seen in years.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 08:48 AM
Nice post, OBM...although I am sure that we will soon see the counter-arguments emerge :cool:

I am also excited about this offense; however, we have not yet seen the same caliber of starting pitching from our opponents as we did through the first 16 games of last season. I still think this offense is frightening to face, but Maddux, Willis, and Carpenter are the only real dominant SPs we have seen (and we won two of those games) No matter--the offense is getting production in all nine batting spots right now, so they are as close to a "slump proof" team offensively as we have seen in years.

Don't forget Carlos Zambrano twice. And Oliver Perez usually gives this club fits but not this year. Mulder ain't too bad either, not his Oakland form but solid nonetheless.

Blimpie
04-21-2006, 09:02 AM
Don't forget Carlos Zambrano twice. And Oliver Perez usually gives this club fits but not this year. Mulder ain't too bad either, not his Oakland form but solid nonetheless.Zambrano doesn't scare me, and hopefully the Oliver Perez curse has ended.

What I was referring to was the run we had last April when we kept hitting everybody's #1/#2 in their rotation. It seemed like every time we turned around, it was Pedro, Rocket, Oswalt, Carpenter, Glavine, etc...

Far East
04-21-2006, 09:27 AM
[QUOTE=OnBaseMachine]The Reds currently have the best offense in baseball.

And without Wily Mo's 1 HR and 2 RBI to date.

And without Junior for 8 of those 16 games.

flyer85
04-21-2006, 09:31 AM
Not possible, your stats are incorrect.

Batting average is the most important stat(especially with RISP).

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:34 AM
Our pitching line is far more offensive (so far)....

28th in ERA 5.81
25th in WHIP 1.57
28th in BAA .305
28th in OPS .879
25th in OBP .362

From the DDN yesterday....

Score runs? Consider this. Over their last five games the Reds have scored 34 runs (6.8 a game) — and lost three of those games because they gave up 38 runs (7.5), including 12 to Florida Tuesday in a 12-6 loss.

Not good. Not good at all.

flyer85
04-21-2006, 09:37 AM
Score runs? Consider this. Over their last five games the Reds have scored 34 runs (6.8 a game) and lost three of those games because they gave up 38 runs (7.5), including 12 to Florida Tuesday in a 12-6 loss.

Not good. Not good at all.Not unexpected and it won't get better until some of the dead weight is cast overboard.

westofyou
04-21-2006, 10:20 AM
The Reds modern day team record for runs scored in a season is 865 runs by the 1999 Reds, however, the 1894 Reds scored 910 runs.

Top 20 season by runs with Runs vs on the right.


RUNS YEAR R R
1 Reds 1894 910 -94
2 Reds 1895 903 12
3 Reds 1889 897 29
4 Reds 1887 892 -46
5 Reds 1886 883 79
6 Reds 1999 865 10
7 Reds 1976 857 178
8 Reds 1899 856 2
9 Reds 1975 840 147
10 Reds 1898 831 24
T11 Reds 2000 825 -33
T11 Reds 1965 825 138
13 Reds 2005 820 64
T14 Reds 1977 802 67
T14 Reds 1962 802 35
16 Reds 1969 798 102
T17 Reds 1987 783 16
T17 Reds 1896 783 -3
19 Reds 1996 778 -16
20 Reds 1974 776 75

BRM
04-21-2006, 10:57 AM
Just for fun -

The Reds currently rank 22nd in all of baseball in BA w/RISP with a .255 average. However, they are 4th in SLG and 6th in OPS w/RISP.

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:24 AM
The Reds currently rank 22nd in all of baseball in BA w/RISP with a .255 average. .Obviously they must be one of the worst offensive teams in baseball.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 02:44 PM
Obviously they must be one of the worst offensive teams in baseball.
Also, it's NEVER the pitchings fault.

CTA513
04-21-2006, 03:39 PM
Compared vs the rest of majors

Games-16

Strikeouts-113(3rd)




Tied for 5th in strikeouts with the Pirates.

GAC
04-21-2006, 04:01 PM
I don't think anyone doubts how potent this offense can/will be.

The problem is that the stench from this pitching staff is far more potent. ;)

Johnny Footstool
04-21-2006, 04:10 PM
What's shocking to me is that there are two teams with ERAs worse than the Reds'.

GAC
04-21-2006, 04:43 PM
What's shocking to me is that there are two teams with ERAs worse than the Reds'.

I noticed that too Johnny.... so we have improved! :lol:

And some have made the comment that KC is really serious about improving. They have room for it. ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 05:46 PM
Tied for 5th in strikeouts with the Pirates.

They were third when I checked, ESPN must have since updated their stats.

pedro
04-21-2006, 05:57 PM
Cincinnati Reds Hitters: Five Highest by VORP 2006


Player PA AVG OBP SLG SB CS VORP
Adam Dunn 72 .278 .431 .741 0 0 10.5
Ryan Freel 63 .319 .492 .426 8 2 8.1
Felipe Lopez 73 .286 .370 .476 5 0 5.5
E. Encarnacion 63 .288 .413 .577 0 0 5.3
Austin Kearns 70 .303 .343 .621 0 0 5.1

MWM
04-21-2006, 06:18 PM
Boy was I wrong about Freel two years ago. I thought there was no way he was good enough to be an everyday player. But you can see the improvements in his game over the last few years. He walked every 9.2 ABs in the minors and that improved to 8.5 in 2004, to 8.2 in 2005. this year it's 4.4 (which isn't likely to stay). since 2001, his P/PA have improved every year starting at 3.75, going to 3.82, 4.00, 4.06, to 4.13 this year. He's turned into one of the better leadoff hitters in the game.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 07:13 AM
Reds scorching the scoreboard
Team on pace for club-record 1,083 runs
BY JOHN FAY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

MILWAUKEE - Reds manager Jerry Narron studies the baseball numbers. He came to this conclusion about his club's offense:

It's too good to be true. The Reds can't keep racking up runs the way they have been.

"Not at this pace," Narron said.

Going into Friday's game at Milwaukee, the Reds had 107 runs in 16 games, a rate of almost 6.69 per game. Over a 162-game season, that calculates to 1,083 runs.

That's a whole lot of runs.

The Reds led the National League in runs last year with 820. The club record is 865, set in 1999.

This year's club has not inflated the figure with a couple of big games. The Reds scored 12 once and 11 once but had been held to fewer than five only four times entering Friday.

"We've got power, guys who can run. It's a tough lineup," Brandon Phillips said.

Entering Friday, the Reds led the National League in runs, doubles, homers, RBI, walks, on-base percentage and slugging percentage. They had 32 homers, 98 RBI and 107 runs; the club records for April are 39 homers, 123 RBI and 131 runs.

The team on-base percentage was .375 - 14 points higher than that of any other NL team. That tends to run up pitch counts.

"There are not going to be a lot of easy innings for a pitcher - or there shouldn't be," Narron said.

Even when the Reds have faced tough starters, pitch counts have kept those pitchers from going deep into the game.

Cy Young winner Chris Carpenter of St. Louis is the only starter to get past the seventh inning against the Reds, and opposing starters have averaged a little more than five innings.

That gets to the middle relief early, and good hitters feast on middle relief.

Said Narron: "We've been able to do it because we've gotten a lot out of the bottom of our order, and Ryan Freel has been outstanding at the top."

E-mail jfay@enquirer.com

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060422/SPT04/604220347/1071

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 07:14 AM
Through 16 games this season, the Reds averaged almost 6.69 runs a game. That projects to 1,083 runs over the season, which would destroy the club record of 865 set in 1999. The Reds have led the National League in runs nine times:

Year Total runs
1956 775
1959 764
1965 825
1968 690
1969 796
1975 840
1976 857
1994 609
2005 820

Johnny Footstool
04-22-2006, 09:39 AM
Someone call DanO and ask how many of those runs were Win Efficient.

BRM
04-22-2006, 12:26 PM
Tied for 5th in strikeouts with the Pirates.

The Reds are now tied for 4th in all of MLB in strikeouts. Still 1st in runs scored.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Someone call DanO and ask how many of those runs were Win Efficient.
They aren't we won by 2 last night..only 1 run counted ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:56 AM
Update:

Games-19
Runs scored-121(1st)
Run per game-6.4(1st)
RC/27-6.60(2nd)
Doubles-49(1st)
Home Runs-33(1st)
Extra-Base hits-83(1st)
AB/HR-19.6(1st)
Batting average-.269(15th)
OBP-.369(2nd)
SLG-.500(12nd)
OPS-.869(3rd)
Walks-99(1st)
Strikeouts-138(4th)
IsoP-.231(1st)
SecA-.403(1st)
BB/PA-.129(1st)
P/PA-3.88(4th)

2006 Projections:

1031 Runs
417 Doubles
281 Home Runs
707 Extra-Base hits
844 Walks

Franchise Records

910 Runs
335 Doubles
222 Home Runs
572 Extra-Base hits
693 Walks

BRM
04-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Team RISP Update:

Runs - 97 (1st)
Bat Avg - .249 (21st)
OBP - .359 (17th)
SLG - .508 (7th)
OPS - .867 (7th)
Stikeouts - 43 (1st)
Walks - 33 (2nd)

registerthis
04-24-2006, 12:11 PM
Top 20 season by runs with Runs vs on the right.
[CODE]
RUNS YEAR R R
1 Reds 1894 910 -94


Wow, the pitching on the 1894 club must have been absolutely dreadful.

westofyou
04-24-2006, 12:20 PM
Wow, the pitching on the 1894 club must have been absolutely dreadful.
That was the biggest offensive year in Baseball history, 1 year after the mound was moved back to the current distance, ENBH increased almost 1000 league wide between 93-94.


YEAR AVG SLG OBA OPS RC TB EBH ISO SEC BPA IBB HBP GIDP SAC SF
1892 .245 .327 .317 .644 9740 20908 3434 .083 .229 .437 0 561 0 0 0
1893 .280 .379 .356 .736 10969 21586 3705 .100 .256 .489 0 639 0 0 0
1894 .309 .435 .379 .814 11976 24851 4648 .126 .282 .541 0 601 0 1150 0
1895 .296 .400 .361 .761 10511 22610 3885 .103 .245 .502 0 667 0 994 0
1896 .290 .387 .354 .741 9936 21522 3575 .097 .239 .492 0 635 0 1163 0
TOT .283 .384 .353 .737 53132 111477 19247 .101 .250 .491 0 3103 0 3307 0

Chip R
04-24-2006, 12:36 PM
Our pitching line is far more offensive (so far)....

28th in ERA 5.81
25th in WHIP 1.57
28th in BAA .305
28th in OPS .879
25th in OBP .362

From the DDN yesterday....

Score runs? Consider this. Over their last five games the Reds have scored 34 runs (6.8 a game) and lost three of those games because they gave up 38 runs (7.5), including 12 to Florida Tuesday in a 12-6 loss.

Not good. Not good at all.

Thank God there are 30 teams.

Barbarossa
04-26-2006, 11:36 AM
Well somethings wrong somewhere. According to CBS Sports Line's Power Rankings the Reds are ranked number 13. Just don't get no respect.:confused:

westofyou
04-26-2006, 11:41 AM
Well somethings wrong somewhere. According to CBS Sports Line's Power Rankings the Reds are ranked number 13. Just don't get no respect.:confused:
.265/.361/.483

The league as a whole hits the Reds like they are Matt Stairs or Craig Wilson.

Eric_Davis
04-27-2006, 06:10 PM
Throw in one more for the "Reds are winning with smoke and mirrors" argument. (but let's not forget that some guys like Jack Morris and Don Sutton made Hall-of-Fame careers out of playing "good enough to win"):

Major League Baseball's 2006 OPS differentials through April 27th:

New York Mets.................(+.113)
Milwaukie Brewers.............(+.091)
Houston Astros.................(+.065)
St. Louis Cardinals.............(+.060)
Colorado Rockies...............(+.037)
Arizona Diamondbacks........(+.030)
Los Angeles Dodgers..........(+.011)
Chicago Cubs...................(+.005)
Cincinnati Reds.................(+.004)
Florida Marlins..................(-.003)
Washington Nationals........(-.010)
Atlanta Braves.................(-.011)
Philadelphia Phillies............(-.069)
San Francisco Giants.........(-.079)
San Diego Padres..............(-.087)
Pittsburgh Pirates..............(-.152)


According to this we should be 11-11 instead of 15-7.

What this tells me is that the REDS are making productive outs. Also the speed of Freel is an unblievable intangible. And our pitchers are bearing down when they have to.

Blimpie
04-28-2006, 07:42 AM
According to this we should be 11-11 instead of 15-7.

What this tells me is that the REDS are making productive outs. Also the speed of Freel is an unblievable intangible. And our pitchers are bearing down when they have to.A description that is normally reserved for a discussion of moving one's bowels...Sounds about right, so I'll go ahead and agree with that one.

BRM
04-28-2006, 09:32 AM
Reds current MLB ranks:

Runs: 136 (2nd)
Doubles: 54 (1st)
HRs: 34 (1st)
Avg: .264 (16th)
SLG: .477 (6th / 2nd in NL)
OBP: .361 (4th / 1st in NL)
Walks: 108 (1st)
Strikeouts: 157 (6th)

They still stink w/RISP though:

At-bats: 216 (4th)
Runs: 110 (2nd)
Avg: .241 (22nd)
SLG: .477 (9th)
OBP: .361 (13th)
Walks: 40 (1st)
Strikeouts: 47 (2nd)

WebScorpion
04-28-2006, 09:59 AM
A description that is normally reserved for a discussion of moving one's bowels...Sounds about right, so I'll go ahead and agree with that one.

It's also a phrase used in bringing new life into the world...

Just sayin'

Raisor
04-29-2006, 06:42 AM
Reds current MLB ranks:

Strikeouts: 157 (6th)




BOOOO!

BRM
04-29-2006, 09:42 AM
BOOOO!

They aren't striking out nearly enough to maximize run scoring.

KronoRed
04-29-2006, 02:46 PM
More K's = more wins.

It's the American way.

SteelSD
04-30-2006, 01:52 AM
BOOOO!

Y'know, here's the interesting thing...

If the Reds continue to play the same way over the course of the season, they can't lead the NL in Strikeouts much less set a new team record.

Why?

Walks. Simply put, the Reds are currently converting K's into Walks and then some. Here's what they're doing with their primary OBP events per PA versus last season:

2005 Reds:

Strikeouts: 4.85 PA/K
Walks: 10.34 PA/BB
Hits: 4.35 PA/Base Hit
AB per PA: 0.88%

2006 Reds:

Strikeouts: 5.63 PA/K
Walks: 8.18 PA/BB
Hits: 4.38 PA/Base Hit
AB per PA: 0.85%

That's a good lesson to anyone who thinks that a Strikeout reduction translates into an increase in Hits. It's pretty obvious where those K's went. Based on those numbers, the Reds could post the same number of PA as last season and end up with fewer Hits. But if they keep doing what they're doing, they'll also end up with fewer AB meaning that your dream of a higher gross K total simply can't happen. Sorry.

WMR
04-30-2006, 02:24 AM
Someone call DanO and ask how many of those runs were Win Efficient.

Whenever I see DanO's name I start grinding my teeth.

KronoRed
04-30-2006, 03:18 AM
Whenever I see DanO's name I start grinding my teeth.
What about his face? :evil:

WMR
04-30-2006, 04:05 AM
What about his face? :evil:


ARGH When I see the picture of DanO and his cronies reveling in the Reds being slaughtered in the 1st inning by the Dodgers which you so deviously trumpet out every now and then, I 'throw up a little in my mouth.'

:laugh: :angry: :laugh: :angry:

KronoRed
04-30-2006, 03:08 PM
You mean this one? :evil:


nah..I'll be nice ;)

BRM
05-01-2006, 05:50 PM
Update time.

Reds current MLB ranks:

Runs: 149 (2nd)
Doubles: 57 (3rd)
HRs: 36 (3rd)
Avg: .267 (12th)
SLG: .468 (7th / 3rd in NL)
OBP: .362 (4th / 1st in NL)
Walks: 122 (1st)
Strikeouts: 179 (6th)

Raisor
05-02-2006, 08:11 AM
Strikeouts: 179 (6th)


BOOOOO!

KronoRed
05-02-2006, 03:08 PM
Strike outs rock Raisor..you know it.

Raisor
05-02-2006, 06:41 PM
Strike outs rock Raisor..you know it.


I'm booking because I want them to strike out more.

BRM
05-02-2006, 07:09 PM
I'm booking because I want them to strike out more.

My love for strikeouts knows no bounds.

Falls City Beer
05-02-2006, 07:18 PM
My love for strikeouts knows no bounds.

I cool hot bowls of soup with their breezes.