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NastyBoy
04-21-2006, 01:23 PM
I bought 2 retro hats and they arrived today, but I am wondering if one is the correct color for the year. One is supposed to be a 1955 cap. I was expecting a navy blue cap with Red wishbone "C", but the hat that arrived is all black. The other cap is listed as a 1957-58 and is off white with red bill. This appears to me to be accurate based on the HOF Uniform database (http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/)

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148427_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148427)

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148429_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148429)

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148431_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148431)

What is supposed to be a 1955 looks like it is navy blue on the HOF database. I am left wondering if I have the right hat. Does anyone know of any years where the reds sported an all black hat?

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148449_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148449)

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148431_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148431)


Does anyone know of any years where the reds sported an all black hat?

RANDY IN INDY
04-21-2006, 01:38 PM
The 1955 Cap should be navy blue. I don't think the Reds ever used black as an accent color, other than the armbands on the '61-'67 uniforms, and the black that is included in the current uniforms. The only all black caps that I am aware of are the BP caps that came along with the current uniforms scheme.

NastyBoy
04-21-2006, 01:47 PM
The 1955 Cap should be navy blue. I don't think the Reds ever used black as an accent color, other than the armbands on the '61-'67 uniforms, and the black that is included in the current uniforms. The only all black caps that I am aware of are the BP caps that came along with the current uniforms scheme.

Yeah... the BP hats are the only I know of, unless there is a alternate hat for some year.

Here is what I was expecting.

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148456_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148456)

The Baumer
04-21-2006, 01:52 PM
I am pretty sure the Cooperstown Collection just means that the hat has a faded, broken in look. Some of the hats may be replicas of actual historic hats, but a lot of them aren't. I own the black hat and I really like it. I also have a holiday Reds hat that is red with a dark green logo.

44Magnum
04-21-2006, 01:54 PM
I believe it should be dark blue as well.

44Magnum
04-21-2006, 01:55 PM
http://www.dugout-memories.com/cinred.html
It should indeed be blue.

NastyBoy
04-21-2006, 02:08 PM
I am pretty sure the Cooperstown Collection just means that the hat has a faded, broken in look. Some of the hats may be replicas of actual historic hats, but a lot of them aren't. I own the black hat and I really like it. I also have a holiday Reds hat that is red with a dark green logo.

I guess we must have the same hat. I really like the black one. The website I bought mine from, the picture was really crappy, so I just assumed it was dark blue, not thinking it could be black.

reds1869
04-21-2006, 02:21 PM
I am pretty sure the Cooperstown Collection just means that the hat has a faded, broken in look. Some of the hats may be replicas of actual historic hats, but a lot of them aren't. I own the black hat and I really like it. I also have a holiday Reds hat that is red with a dark green logo.

I have a Cooperstown Collection hat that is red low profile cotton with a balck pennant that says Cincinnati and a Nike Swoosh on the left side. So you are correct in that Cooperstown Coleection has nothing to do with authenticity; they just try to make the products look retro.

Blimpie
04-21-2006, 02:25 PM
I bought 2 retro hats and they arrived today, but I am wondering if one is the correct color for the year. One is supposed to be a 1955 cap. I was expecting a navy blue cap with Red wishbone "C", but the hat that arrived is all black. The other cap is listed as a 1957-58 and is off white with red bill. This appears to me to be accurate based on the HOF Uniform database Does anyone know of any years where the reds sported an all black hat?I bought a Cooperstown Collection hat of the 1961 Reds that looked almost like this one--except that it has the thin red pinstripes around the hat.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 02:49 PM
Yeah... the BP hats are the only I know of, unless there is a alternate hat for some year.

Here is what I was expecting.

http://www.filehigh.com/files/gae/thumbs/13977_148456_tl.gif (http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=18662&i=148456)
Stop posting pictures of my hat :p:

;)

RANDY IN INDY
04-21-2006, 02:55 PM
There is a slight difference in the "55 cap, as the wishbone "C" did have a white outline. The navy caps that they wore up to that point had only the red wishbone "C" as the one pictured that you were expecting. '55 was the only year with the white outlined "C" during that period. Regardless, it should have been navy blue.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 04:44 PM
I had a white 1957-58 cap just like that one when I was in college. I really liked it, and I would like to see the Reds go with something like that as an alternate home cap if/when they make their uniform changes next year.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 05:02 PM
NastyBoy,

Who did you order the hats from?

Heath
04-21-2006, 05:34 PM
Stop posting pictures of my hat :p:

;)


Cubs Fan ;)

Heath
04-21-2006, 05:37 PM
BTW that black hat with the white outline wishbone "C" - looks eerie familar to the Indians hat of the late 50's and 60's when they had the wishbone "C" and the Reds had an enlongated "C" (with no wishbone tail)

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-2070418dt.jpg

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 05:40 PM
BTW that black hat with the white outline wishbone "C" - looks eerie familar to the Indians hat of the late 50's and 60's when they had the wishbone "C" and the Reds had an enlongated "C" (with no wishbone tail)

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-2070418dt.jpg

And that fact is why, although I applaud the decision to go with navy as a trim color next year, I hope the Reds do NOT have navy caps!

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 05:45 PM
Stop mocking my hat Heath :rant:

Heath
04-21-2006, 05:53 PM
Stop mocking my hat Heath :rant:


Sorry, I took Chip's job. :evil:

NastyBoy
04-29-2006, 01:09 AM
NastyBoy,

Who did you order the hats from?

The 1957-58 bought from a guy on ebay that has a stockpile of old caps. The black on I bought from a site I googled. I went back to their site and they list the black cap as 1955.

Here is very cool site I found for others that may have trouble googling :) . I like them all!

http://www.dugout-memories.com/cinred.html

Big Klu
04-29-2006, 01:20 AM
Thanks!

Yachtzee
04-29-2006, 07:41 AM
Maybe it's a Hiroshima Carp hat. :)