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KronoRed
04-21-2006, 04:11 PM
Terrible plot idea..new blood in charge is nice to see

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117941815?categoryid=10&cs=1&s=h&p=0

J.J. Abrams is becoming the next Gene Roddenberry.
Paramount is breathing life into its "Star Trek" franchise by setting "Mission: Impossible III" helmer J.J. Abrams to produce and direct the 11th "Trek" feature, aiming for a 2008 release.

Damon LindelofDamon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, Abrams' producing team from "Lost," also will produce the yet-to-be-titled feature.

Project, to be penned by Abrams and "MI3" scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto OrciRoberto Orci, will center on the early days of seminal "Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission.

Deal reflects ParPar's bullishness on "MI3," which launches worldwide next weekend, and underlines the goal of Paramount chief Brad Grey and prexyprexy Gail BermanGail Berman to re-energize the pipeline via high-profile tentpoles while revitalizing the Par brand with top-tier talent such as Abrams.

"MI3" is the first pic to be released that's been greenlit by Grey.

"Star Trek" has been Hollywood's most durable performer other than James Bond, spawning 10 features that have grossed more than $1 billion and 726 TV episodes from six series.

Decision to relaunch "Star Trek" comes less than a year after UPNUPN pulled the plug on "Star Trek: Enterprise""Star Trek: Enterprise" amid dismal ratings following a four-season run and four years after "Star Trek: Nemesis""Star Trek: Nemesis" turned in the worst performance of the 10 films with $43 million domestic.

Original series created by Roddenberry launched in 1966 on NBC and ended in 1969.

During the following decade, the original 78 episodes of "Trek" became staples in syndication and helped mobilize the fan base along with conventions, books and merchandise. Paramount released "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" in 1979 and saw domestic grosses hit $82 million. The next three films grossed a combined $263 million domestically, so Paramount started the second TV series, "The Next Generation," in 1987, with Rick Berman and Roddenberry co-exec producing.

Under Sherry LansingSherry Lansing's tenure, Rick Berman had been teamed several years ago with Jordan KernerJordan Kerner and Kerry McCluggageKerry McCluggage to develop an 11th feature set in the early days of Starfleet Academy.

savafan
04-21-2006, 04:36 PM
I'm disappointed that they are going back to do a prequel of the original series. I wanted to see RikerRiker take over the EnterpriseEnterprise and PicardPicard get promoted to admiral.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 05:39 PM
This seems to me like a thinly veiled attempt to get a new series going in the "classic era" Star Trek. They replace the actors who play Kirk, Spock & McCoy with younger unknowns the movie then push it to a TV show with the younger version characters.

As entertaining as a lot of Star Trek (especially DS9) has been, the series needs a good, long vacation. It's always going to have it's hardcore fans who will turn out for anything with the name on the title, but it's almost collapsing under it's own weight at this point. There's simply too much continuity and backstory with everything for casual TV and Movie fans to get excited about what's going on. I mean, it was probably impossible to get into DS9 unless you'd at least had familiarity with The Next Generation -- and I loved the last season of "Enterprise," but unless you were really familiar with every iteration of Star Trek, you were probably confused as hell at what was going on.

They need someone involved with the series who can take it in a fresh direction. I have no idea what that would be -- but it certainly isn't going down the "Prequel" route (which has already effectively killed the fanbases of the two major American science-fiction productions: Star Wars and Star Trek -- when are producers going to learn it's not as much fun when you know how things turn out?) again.

savafan
04-21-2006, 05:47 PM
I'd like to see a simple Starfleet Academy series, with no attachments to any previous storyline

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 06:30 PM
I'd like to see a simple Starfleet Academy series, with no attachments to any previous storyline
Yeah I agree, this is another in a long line of "Younger hot actor/actresses in a trek series" if that's what they want to do fine..but leave the old characters out, don't piss all over the good parks of Trek.

Unassisted
04-21-2006, 06:53 PM
I'm disappointed that they are going back to do a prequel of the original series. I wanted to see RikerRiker take over the EnterpriseEnterprise and PicardPicard get promoted to admiral.The last Next Gen film was kind of underwhelming.

Now that Patrick Stewart's got the X-Men franchise to keep his bank account full, his price to appear in another Trek film is probably approaching $20 million now.

The intervening years haven't been kind to Frakes and Spiner. There is still hooting in the Enterprise newsgroup about the fact Frakes had to wear a "corset" and a chef's uniform in that show's finale to conceal the 50 pounds he'd picked up. Spiner said at the time Nemesis was released that he felt he was picking up too many wrinkles to do another film.

I can see why Paramount felt the need to go in a new direction. I'm sure there was great hope when it started that Enterprise was providing that new direction for the films. I guess this is a decent alternative.

savafan
04-21-2006, 07:02 PM
I'm sure there was great hope when it started that Enterprise was providing that new direction for the films. I guess this is a decent alternative.

I liked the Enterprise cast and characters. I think, much like Firefly, that it still would have translated well to the big screen. One of it's big problems is that it was on UPN, which wasn't carried on all cable packages when it premiered, and it kept moving around the schedule so you never knew when it was on. I believe part of Scott Bakula's contract with that show stated that he would do 2 films as well.

GAC
04-21-2006, 08:51 PM
Kinda like a Batman Begins thingy. ;)

hammer
04-21-2006, 09:00 PM
As long as Berman and Braga are not involved I'll give the next film a shot. The last idea I had heard was another prequle movie about the Earth-Romulus war. I think that had some potential but I think you would have to use the enterprise cast. I also enjoyed the last season of Enterprise, but was not overly impressed with the series finale. I would like to see them turn the franchise over to Ronald Moore, the guy behind Deep Space Nine.

I am not as enthusiatic about this starfleet academy idea, it seems like that idea comes back every couple of years.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 09:15 PM
Kinda like a Batman Begins thingy. ;)
Or the Star Wars prequels.

UKFlounder
04-21-2006, 09:32 PM
I guess it wouldn't work, but I'd like to see a movie from the perspective of a non-human group of characters, whether it was Romulan or Klingons or whomever.

Perhaps cast the humans (or Federation characters) in the role of the aliens invading someone else's space under the guise of "exploration"

I guess it would be ideal if you could make any of the known crews (original, TNG or Voyager) as the "bad guys" in that type of film, but that won't happen.

I pretty much realize that nothing like that will happen, but I think that might be something worth trying as well as something new and different.

hammer
04-22-2006, 02:02 AM
I guess they could do a movie based in the mirror universe, then the humans could be the enemy.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 02:06 AM
I guess they could do a movie based in the mirror universe, then the humans could be the enemy.
I'd watch.

They all have to have goatees though.

hammer
04-22-2006, 03:39 PM
Of course they have to have gotees, its the only we we know who is evil.

RFS62
04-22-2006, 03:47 PM
I think they should do a Star Trek 90210 kinda thing... you know, the OC meets Enterprise...... some hot alien chicks with all the angst and problems of inter-galactic dating and phasers and stuff.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:02 PM
I think they should do a Star Trek 90210 kinda thing... you know, the OC meets Enterprise...... some hot alien chicks with all the angst and problems of inter-galactic dating and phasers and stuff.
They tried that, it was called Voyager,

Raisor
04-22-2006, 05:35 PM
This is an awful idea for the new movie. I know Berman's been aching to do this for years though.

blah

They really need a Sisko film.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 05:58 PM
They really need a Sisko film.
The Sisko is above films.

hammer
04-22-2006, 06:01 PM
Deep Space Nine is my favorite of all the trek series, just nosing out the original series. I would love to see a Deep Space nine movie, but I am not sure it would translate well to the big screen. I think it would be better suited to a mini-series.

TRF
04-24-2006, 10:53 AM
Hawk flies like an eagle.

Sisko was good, but Hawk was the man.

Unassisted
04-24-2006, 11:25 AM
They really need a Sisko film.There's that not-so-minor sticking point of Sisko having died in the DS9 finale, though. ;)

KronoRed
04-24-2006, 04:33 PM
He didn't die, he joined the prophets and said he would return some day.


Lord

I am a nerd :D

Raisor
04-25-2006, 09:21 AM
Hawk flies like an eagle.

Sisko was good, but Hawk was the man.


Sisko was Hawk in all but name, once they brought in the Defiant and he shaved his head.

KronoRed
04-25-2006, 04:21 PM
And the goatee helped.

Caveat Emperor
04-25-2006, 11:54 PM
Sisko was Hawk in all but name, once they brought in the Defiant and he shaved his head.

That's generally the demarcation point between when DS9 was "good" and when it got "great" -- Avery Brooks' hair status.

Hair = Good
Bald = Great

TRF
04-26-2006, 10:55 AM
Sisko was Hawk in all but name, once they brought in the Defiant and he shaved his head.

In attitude maybe, but Hawk had shades and little sayings that made sense only to Hawk. The fat man burps at noon, and the Hawk soars!

hammer
04-27-2006, 12:54 AM
The whole ending to deep appace nine got me thinking about a possible movie that they will never made. I think you can do a earth- Romulan war ,and have Sisco deposited in the middle of that.

Benny-Distefano
04-27-2006, 05:25 PM
I'd watch.

They all have to have goatees though.



ya gotta admit... Spock looked pretty sweet, sportin the goat. :cool:

Benny D: "Hey Spock, I think you outta think about sportin that goatie on a full-time basis."
Spock: "I shall consider it."

(sorry, Trek Fan humor... its the last thing Evil Spock says in that episode, if memory serves.)

KronoRed
04-27-2006, 05:39 PM
Hmm..Abrams not so sure.

http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/zap-abramscorrectstrekrumors,0,7990297.story?coll=zap-news-headlines

Could it be this was just Paramount drumming up hype for MI3?

Unassisted
04-28-2006, 03:48 PM
Hmm..Abrams not so sure.

http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/zap-abramscorrectstrekrumors,0,7990297.story?coll=zap-news-headlines

Could it be this was just Paramount drumming up hype for MI3?I read that as: "Paramount and I haven't settled on how much I will get paid to do the Trek film, so it's premature to say that I have agreed to do it." Good negotiating tactic, if you ask me. No need to have all of those Trek fans helping Paramount to twist his arm.

KronoRed
04-28-2006, 04:15 PM
Perhaps, but the Trekkies (at least on the trek board) seem to be coming down 70/30 as hating the idea :dunno:

savafan
04-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Star Trek: The Reboot Scripters confirm new film to be a "reimagining." by IGN Staff ; March 8, 2007 - While precious little has been confirmed about Paramount's in-the-works attempt at restarting their Star Trek franchise, MTV has managed to confirm today what many fans have expected (and hoped for): that the new film will be a reboot of the franchise rather than simply a prequel.

While talking to the film's scripters, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, MTV.com dug up a few tidbits of precious dilithium crystal info, though they hit several roadblocks as well from the writers in their quest to confirm the many rumors swirling around the project.

"Orci and Kurtzman confirmed that the film is not in any way a prequel but a reimagining of the franchise," says MTV.com, which also adds that the plan is to simply call the film Star Trek -- with no subtitles, Roman numerals, or colons anywhere in the name.

"We're not going to start totally from scratch," Orci tells the site regarding the look of the film. "We want it to feel like it's updated and of the now. That's actually the discussions we're having now: how to keep the look of the universe yet have it not look like nothing's new. It's tricky."

The pair would not confirm casting rumors during their chat, including the talk that Matt Damon, Adrien Brody, and Gary Sinise are in the running to play Kirk, Spock, and McCoy (a rumor first reported by IGN). In fact, Orci tells MTV (apparently jokingly), "We never said Bones was in it." Kurtzman would only add, "I'm the hugest Matt Damon fan ever. If he became [Kirk], great."

(In fact, IGN recently reported that Dr. McCoy's role would be a small one and that the story is more focused on Kirk and Spock.)

Kurtzman and Orci also said that the film will be more action-packed than any of the Treks that have preceded it, and that it'll be the "biggest one" in terms of budget.

"The economic models of the other [films] were very much based on the fans out there and their purchasing power," says Orci. "With this one we're going for the broad audience to bring people into Trek for the first time."

The writers are less forthcoming in the interview about whether or not William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy will have cameos, though they do acknowledge that a starship will be an integral part of the film: "I don't know how you make Star Trek without a starship," Orci says. "You have to trek through the stars, so you need a ship for that." The pair does admit, however, that they have, along with the film's director J.J. Abrams, met with Shatner and Nimoy.

Paramount offered the team full access and support when approaching the franchise. That, combined with their script -- which the writers say adheres to Trek creator Gene Roddenberry's original vision for the franchise - meant this was a project they couldn't pass up.

"Trek, more than anything, has always been about the human interactions," Orci says. "It's all about the human soul."

Stay tuned to IGN for more Trek news as it breaks!


http://movies.ign.com/articles/771/771425p1.html

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/reviews/1683/_11536025814678.jpg

Unassisted
04-27-2007, 02:26 PM
"The Reboot Scripters confirm new film to be a "reimagining." "

:thumbdown

KronoRed
04-27-2007, 02:46 PM
Like 'Enterprise' and it's foolish attempt at a reboot this has big failure written all over it.

Let.Trek.Die.

LoganBuck
04-27-2007, 02:47 PM
Spike has been running the Voyager series, and I have been catching up with the joy of DVR. That series didn't get enough love.

I would rather see them moving forward somehow. Picking up somewhere after Voyager, and DS9. I don't like the idea of more Kirk and Spock, without Shatner and Nimoy.

Caveat Emperor
04-27-2007, 04:35 PM
Like 'Enterprise' and it's foolish attempt at a reboot this has big failure written all over it.

"Enterprise" the idea was a lot better than "Enterprise" the realized series. If they'd have run "Enterprise" from the start like they did in the last season, it'd have probably stuck around and been a damn good show.

The inherent problem with "Star Trek" is that, with somewhere in the neighborhood of 750 episodes, 10 movies, and enough books to fill a small public library, there is simply too much of it out there. Its hard to create a new "Star Trek" fan because most of what has been put out there since "The Next Generation" assumes an average to above-average familiarity with the material on behalf of the viewers. Its hard to jump right into the universe cold turkey.

In that sense, a total reboot makes sense. You can pull a whole new group of people in on the ground floor so that they don't need to have seen the episodes that explain all of the various concepts and background.

Having said that, they're at minimum 5-10 years premature on the reboot. You have to give SOME time to let things breathe, let people forget and get hungry for new product, and let a new generation of potential fans grow up before you go back and try it again. Even "Batman" took almost a decade off between the old series and starting the new one.

RedsBaron
04-28-2007, 07:41 AM
Having said that, they're at minimum 5-10 years premature on the reboot. You have to give SOME time to let things breathe, let people forget and get hungry for new product, and let a new generation of potential fans grow up before you go back and try it again. Even "Batman" took almost a decade off between the old series and starting the new one.

I agree. "Re-boots" seem to be in fashion, and some, such as "Batman Begins" and "Casino Royale" were well done, but I really am not particularly interested in a re-boot of "Star Trek." Some things are best left alone.

RFS62
04-28-2007, 08:05 AM
Matt Damon as Kirk?


Bleeechh

zombielady
04-28-2007, 12:06 PM
As a trekkie... I personally think the idea stinks... Now another TNG type movie, I could go for that. With some serious Wesley Crusher action...


Matt Damon as Kirk?


Bleeechh
OH NOZ! That means Ben Affleck would be Spock?! Oh, the Humanity!

savafan
04-28-2007, 12:08 PM
As A trekkie... I personally think the idea stinks... Now another TNG type movie, I could go for that. With some Wesley Crusher action...

Shouldn't Wesley have his own ship by now?

zombielady
04-28-2007, 12:10 PM
Shouldn't Wesley have his own ship by now?

NO... he went with some "Space Indian" to find meaning in the metaphysical realm... Not my favorite story line of the series:thumbdown

KronoRed
04-28-2007, 01:53 PM
Yeah but he came back to sit and say nothing and Troy and Rikers' wedding ;)

KronoRed
04-28-2007, 01:55 PM
I agree. "Re-boots" seem to be in fashion, and some, such as "Batman Begins" and "Casino Royale" were well done, but I really am not particularly interested in a re-boot of "Star Trek." Some things are best left alone.

Agreed

A reboot just ticks off 50% of the fan base right off the bat, great plan for profit ;)

If they want to do this they should wait 10 more years and then place it in the 28th century or something, going back wards is lazy story telling.

Unassisted
04-28-2007, 05:47 PM
Like 'Enterprise' and it's foolish attempt at a reboot this has big failure written all over it.

The Charlie's Angels and Brady Bunch reboots made too many millions for Hollywood to abandon the concept of reboots.

I guess there is some consolation in the fact that it's not going to be a reboot of TNG.