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rdiersin
04-21-2006, 10:22 PM
Yeah, he does. He threw about 10-15% of his pitches sidearm on Sunday.

Thanks FCB, I haven't watched many games this year, so this was the first Arroyo start I've been able to watch. Its nice to see a Reds pitcher actually trying things to get hitters out.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:23 PM
The Cat In The Hatte with a double!

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:24 PM
On Gameday, the location of the pitches shows the three balls on McCracken were high, as was the called strike. That'll be good.

FlyingPig
04-21-2006, 10:24 PM
Marty takes this time in the game to trash Jimbo a little bit...


:laugh:

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 10:24 PM
Just a professional hitter.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:25 PM
McCracken strikes out swinging on a 3-2 pitch. 10 K's for Sheets. 2 outs.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:26 PM
Wow, Jenkins is SLOW out there in right field.

The Brewers OF is not good defensively with Lee in LF and Jenkins in RF. Brady Clark or Gabe Gross in CF really have their work cut out for them.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:27 PM
Phillips grounds out to short. 2-1 Reds mid 6th. Sheets now at 88 pitches.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 10:28 PM
Sheets probably has one inning left, if that.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:29 PM
Gross lines a single to right.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:31 PM
13 pages thru 5 1/2. We got plenty of time ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:32 PM
Hardy grounds out to short. Runner at 2nd with 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:33 PM
Jenkins grounds out to 1st. Runner at 3rd with 2 outs.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:34 PM
Hope YOU had a winner tonight in the Ohio Lottery!:D

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:34 PM
CLee flat out scares me in situations like these.

Rex Argos
04-21-2006, 10:35 PM
who is mo eggers?

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:35 PM
Lee walks on a 3-2 pitch. 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:36 PM
Big spot here. Gotta get Prince here.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:36 PM
who is mo eggers?

Substitute DJ/engineer for 1360Homer in Cincinnati. Strangely sounds like Wild Man Walker...

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 10:37 PM
who is mo eggers?

Someone who's never been in my kitchen.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:37 PM
Hey Lancaster, are you having steno pad withdrawal? :D

Rex Argos
04-21-2006, 10:37 PM
why is he recording while Marty is reading the scores? I don't get it.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:37 PM
That second pitch to Fielder was Nasty. He got em. Inning over. Nice job getting out of that mini-jam.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:37 PM
whoa,Fielder swings and fouls into the Ross' mitt - strikeout - Arroyo is charmed tonight

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:38 PM
Fielder strikes out swinging as he can't check his swing. 6 K's for Arroyo.
2-1 Reds after 6.

I toss the pbp back to Caveat for the 7th.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:38 PM
Someone who's never been in my kitchen.
:beerme: Nice "Cheers" reference.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:38 PM
Prince Fielder, welcome to Bronson's world, 2-1 Reds after 6.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:40 PM
why is he recording while Marty is reading the scores? I don't get it.

Aircheck....sales has been on us all week about getting the "granger" read, so Marty made it obvious he was doing his "granger" read.

They should be happy now :)

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:40 PM
I toss the pbp back to Caveat for the 7th.

Thanks a lot RF. 2-1, Men in Red as we head to the Top of 7th. Word on the street is the Mo Eggers was recording the "Lifetime Movie of the Week" for Marty at 9:30, and he just wanted to be sure that it started on time.

Dave Ross bounces the first pitch he sees and makes a quick out. Way to work the pitcher there, Davey.

1 out.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:41 PM
Aircheck....sales has been on us all week, so Marty made it obvious he was doing his "granger" read.

They should be happy now :)

Stupid Radio Sales Staff.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:41 PM
7th inning, 1 out

Bronson Arroyo steps up to the dish. Apparently his batting helmet looks like he had one of those over-protective mothers growing up. I guess the knee pads and elbow pads are still at his house in Boston. He grounds out to Bill Hall.

Glendon Rusch curses silently in the Cubs dugout.

2 outs.

Wheelhouse
04-21-2006, 10:42 PM
Word for "scrappy" in Milwaukee = "pesky"

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:42 PM
7th inning, 2 outs

Ryan Freel up next. I'd like to see him get one of those 8 pitch ABs here and get on base to really drive the nail into Sheets' night. He flies out quickly down the right field line.

So much for plate discipline.

3 outs, heading to the bottom of the frame.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:42 PM
That is 96 pitches for Sheets. That may be it if he is on a pitch count.

IslandRed
04-21-2006, 10:42 PM
One of the great side effects of XM's baseball setup -- you get the home team feed -- is getting to listen to the likes of Bob Uecker now and then. He's just good. I don't mean good in that slapstick Major-League-and-Miller-Lite persona, he's just a good play-by-play guy.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:43 PM
One of the great side effects of XM's baseball setup -- you get the home team feed -- is getting to listen to the likes of Bob Uecker now and then. He's just good. I don't mean good in that slapstick Major-League-and-Miller-Lite persona, he's just a good play-by-play guy.

"Juuuuuust a bit outside"

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:43 PM
Stupid Radio Sales Staff.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/Frank_Bonner_on_WKRP.jpg/200px-Frank_Bonner_on_WKRP.jpg

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:43 PM
Quick inning for Sheets, but he's gotta be getting close to his pitch count.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 10:44 PM
One of the great side effects of XM's baseball setup -- you get the home team feed -- is getting to listen to the likes of Bob Uecker now and then. He's just good. I don't mean good in that slapstick Major-League-and-Miller-Lite persona, he's just a good play-by-play guy.

MLB.TV had the Brewer radio feed last night. I got to watch the game and listen to Uecker. Sweet!

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 10:44 PM
if we only had 5 Arroyo's!

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:45 PM
Wow - a Reds Starter in the seventh - who also hasn't been aware of Bill Hall's magic Voodoo over Cincinnati.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:45 PM
Bottom of the 7th, Red Stockings holding a 1 run lead. Bronson, if you know what's good for you, you're gonna not want to turn this one over to the 'pen.

Bill Hall - Distinguished Reds Killer, Esq. - steps into bat. You know, there are a lot of these Reds Killers out there. Makes me wonder if the real Reds killer isn't the Reds pitching -- or Adam Dunn and his lack of contact.

Bill Hall Ks for Arroyo's 7th punchout. Take that, Willy.

1 out

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:45 PM
"Juuuuuust a bit outside"
Ball four. Ball eight.

One hit, one gd'ed hit. You can't say gd on the radio. Who cares, nobody's listening!

Yep, Bob's the unsung hero of that flick. I just watched it again a few days ago on one of the HBO channels.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:46 PM
From the Elias Sports Bureau:

Scott Hatteberg is hitting the softest .289 in the history of the game. He is currently 11-38 with 1 hr and 3 rbi. Guess when that 3 run HR was?

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:47 PM
7th inning, 1 out

Corey Koskie, not known as a Reds killer but always thinking of trying, is up next. He runs the count to 2-2 before he hits a line drive down the line for extra bases. Koskie has a double, opening his official file in the rapidly growing "Reds Killer" cabinet.

1 on, 1 out

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:47 PM
From the Elias Sports Bureau:

Scott Hatteberg is hitting the softest .289 in the history of the game. He is currently 11-38 with 1 hr and 3 rbi. Guess when that 3 run HR was?

Opening Day. I was there. :D

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:48 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/Frank_Bonner_on_WKRP.jpg/200px-Frank_Bonner_on_WKRP.jpg


good one - Shady Hill Rest Home -

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:48 PM
Arroyo getting hit a little harder in the later innings...I wonder how much more he has in the tank, tonight?

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:48 PM
Cirillo to hit for Sheets. Very lucky they scratched out two runs. He pitched a heckuva game, but so has Mr. Arroyo.

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 10:48 PM
From the Elias Sports Bureau:

Scott Hatteberg is hitting the softest .289

Hatteberg = Charmin?

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:48 PM
7th inning, 1 out, man on 2nd

Moeller the Catcher Crusader up with a RISP and a chance to tie the game. Steve lets us know that he's 1-5 with RISP -- I wonder if Bob Uecker rails on him about that. He lines out to the Q-Man for the out

2 outs

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:49 PM
Wow. Sheets is a legit #1. Excellent outing for him.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 10:50 PM
From the Elias Sports Bureau:

Scott Hatteberg is hitting the softest .289 in the history of the game.

I wonder if BF wrote that?

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Bronson with the K!

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:50 PM
How many Ks does Sheets get in this lineup? I'm thinking 7 innings, 11 Ks.

Wow...not to pat myself on the back or anything, but not a bad prediction.

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Nice Job Arroyo! I'm loving him....

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:50 PM
and whoever called Sheet's K count only missed by 1 - very well done - and I'd like to think I'm still on par for my 3-2 (and I'll take 2-1 to keep the theme up of being just one off).

Parliament
04-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Arroyo is a freakin beast

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Arroyo dealing.. love it. 95 pitches for him though.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Hatteberg = Charmin?

Hatteberg's more off-brand than Charmin - maybe Quilted Northern - or Angel Soft.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
These Red Roof Inn commercials are bugging the heck out of me. "The chances of me working are.....remote...HAHAHAHAHA." Shoot me if I have to hear that again, please. :cool:

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
7th inning, 2 out, Man on 2nd

Jeff Cirillo pinch hits for Ben Sheets. Sheets heads to the cleaners, because he was filthy this evening -- 20/20 black-light episode filthy. Arroyo gets head 1-2 and STRIKES HIM OUT SWINGING. 8th K of the evening.

He wishes he could have that first pitch of the game back, but other than that, a fanntastic outing for Arroyo thus far.

Heading to the 8th, it's back to RF for the PBP.

Reds leading 2-1

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I'd have to say this WMP deal is working out.

CTA513
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Wow. Sheets is a legit #1. Excellent outing for him.

It would be nice to have Sheets on the Reds pitching staff.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:52 PM
where's the 'Wily Mo Update Thread"?

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 10:52 PM
There is that freakin Red Roof Inn Commercial!! Im with ya Gilpdawg

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:52 PM
Heading to the 8th, it's back to RF for the PBP.

Thanks, Caveat.
Jose Cappelan is the new Brewers pitcher.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:52 PM
There is that freakin Red Roof Inn Commercial!! Im with ya Gilpdawg

That guy dancing on the bed needs to be punched... :D

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
It would be nice to have Sheets on the Reds pitching staff.

What, you don't like Howington or Gruler? That's what happens when you have to go cheap for the HS guys.

Joseph
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
So who threw the better game in everyones opinion?

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
Nice swing/opp hit by Felo - guy is good, real good

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
Another run or 2 (or 3 or 4) would be nice!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
Lopez leads off with a double to the left field corner.

MasonBuzz3
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
It would be nice to have Sheets on the Reds pitching staff.
i would say that a healthy ben sheets on this staff would equal the reds being in the playoffs and sheets contending for a cy young

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:54 PM
These Red Roof Inn commercials are bugging the heck out of me. "The chances of me working are.....remote...HAHAHAHAHA." Shoot me if I have to hear that again, please. :cool:

MULTI-TASKING! :D

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:54 PM
So who threw the better game in everyones opinion?

I'd call it a draw, they both have pitched masterfully thus far.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:54 PM
Mil broadcasters think Death Wish will be back out next inning.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:54 PM
MULTI-TASKING! :D
Oh god, what have I done?:laugh:

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:55 PM
I just wonder if Ben Sheets will fall into the Kerry Wood/Mark Prior always injured mode.

He pitched well enough to win.

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 10:55 PM
Lets go Dunn!!! Get ahold of one

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:55 PM
How many pitches for Arroyo?

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:55 PM
Dunn walks on a 3-2 pitch. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 10:56 PM
Give Ra The Bunt Sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:56 PM
How many pitches for Arroyo?
95

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 10:56 PM
How many pitches for Arroyo?
95-66 strikes. Edit-ya beat me to it.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:57 PM
95

So - a complete game isn't too far out of the question - good.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:58 PM
Aurilia flies out to right. Lopez goes to 3rd. 1st and 3rd with 1 out.

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:58 PM
Rats - 1st and 3rd - 1 out - DP chance.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:59 PM
So - a complete game isn't too far out of the question - good.Narron does not want to use Coffey tonight so it will probably be Weathers if Arroyo can't go the whole game.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Rats - 1st and 3rd - 1 out - DP chance.

It's Dunn's fault. He shouldn't have walked w/RISP. :evil:

Heath
04-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Hey, the Hat got a RBI ... and it's not even opening day!

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Veterans pay off in the 4th and 5th slots

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Hatteberg drives in a run with a single to center. 3-1 Reds!! 1st and 2nd with 1 out.

Chip R
04-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Mr. Hat!

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:00 PM
Hatteberg brings in an insurance run. The reverse jinx works. (referring to that Elias stat posted earlier in the thread)

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 11:00 PM
Narron does not want to use Coffey tonight so it will probably be Weathers if Arroyo can't go the whole game.

Dave Williams has graciously volunteered to pitch the 9th if need be.

--RBI for Charmin!

Heath
04-21-2006, 11:00 PM
Have the Reds won a game this year, without hitting a HR?

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:00 PM
The Cat In The Hatte with an RBI single! His first RBI since Opening Day!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:01 PM
McCracken grounds into a 4-6-3 DP. 3-1 Reds mid 8th.

savafan
04-21-2006, 11:01 PM
Having both Arroyo and Sheets on my fantasy team, I'm happy with tonight's game so far.

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 11:01 PM
Have the Reds won a game this year, without hitting a HR?

Last game vs fish

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:01 PM
Have the Reds won a game this year, without hitting a HR?

I don't think they hit a homer in Wednesday's 9-8 win over the Marlins.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:02 PM
Have the Reds won a game this year, without hitting a HR?Last Friday they won that 1-0 game against the Cardinals.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Gross flies out to left on the 1st pitch. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Have the Reds won a game this year, without hitting a HR?

I think they did the other day, actually...

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Dunn looked smoooooooooooth on that play. No sarcasm.

IslandRed
04-21-2006, 11:04 PM
That 9-8 win over Florida was really weird for us -- 12 hits made up of 11 singles and a double. Usually when we get large on the board, extra-base hits make up a big part.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:05 PM
Hardy pops out to short on a 2-2 pitch. 2 outs.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:05 PM
Hey Wayne, this team looks playoff caliber when there's a real pitcher on the mound. Hint, hint.

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Dunn lets the infielders catch too many popups.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Have the Reds won a game this year, without hitting a HR?

4-14 @ St. Louis 1-0
4-19 vs. Florida 9-8

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Good effort by Dunn.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Jenkins doubles down the left field line just past a diving Dunn.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:06 PM
Nice effort by Dunn, but that ball kept going away from him.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:07 PM
Nice effort by Dunn there. Marty will probably rip him for it since he's not Superman.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:07 PM
Dunn looked rooooooooooooooough on that play.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:07 PM
Again, CLee scares me.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:08 PM
Nice effort by Dunn there. Marty will probably rip him for it since he's not Superman.

Marty noted very matter of factly that it was tailing away from Dunner, indicating it was a difficult ball to play.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:08 PM
Nice effort by Dunn there. Marty will probably rip him for it since he's not Superman.

He did not. He gave him kudos for the effort, as he should.

SteelSD
04-21-2006, 11:09 PM
Nice effort by Dunn there. Marty will probably rip him for it since he's not Superman.

Nope. Marty was complimentary of Dunn's effort on that play. Rightly so.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:09 PM
Wow...Death Wish got screwed on that one.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:09 PM
Thought Lee was gonna be rung up on that one. Just missed.

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:09 PM
that pitch has been called a strike all night

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:09 PM
That pitch was close. Lee walks on a 3-2 pitch near the inside corner. 1st and 2nd.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:10 PM
Narron is basically saying that he has the worst bullpen in the majors.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:10 PM
Nope. Marty was complimentary of Dunn's effort on that play. Rightly so.
I figured as much. I figured I'd go ahead and say it, because you know SOMEONE was thinking it.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 11:10 PM
Narron is basically saying that he has the worst bullpen in the majors.
Not like everyone doesn't know :D

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 11:10 PM
Narron is basically saying that he has the worst bullpen in the majors.

Well, at least he doesn't have the Cleveland bull pen.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
The bullpen should've been throwing to start this inning. Inexcusable to leave Arroyo out there when the book on him is that he loses massive amounts of effectiveness post pitch-100.

I know they were spent last night, but it's a close game and you can't let this slip away after such a great outing.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Yeah, Bronson!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Fielder grounds out to 1st. 3-1 Reds after 8. Arroyo now up to 114 pitches.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
And Arroyo gets himself out of trouble. WTG 61!

Heath
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Stormy Weathers might be up in the bottom of the ninth. I'm going for a car ride.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Well, at least he doesn't have the Cleveland bull pen.

BOOOOO DANNY GRAVES!!! :D

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Though it turned out right, that was not the right move by Narron. Should have gone with Shackelford there.

BoydsOfSummer
04-21-2006, 11:12 PM
I love Bronson Arroyo. That don't make me gay,right?

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:12 PM
Narron is basically saying that he has the worst bullpen in the majors.

Conversely, he's acknowledging that he's got a starter pitching brilliantly.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Whatever.

Cardinals purchased the contract of outfielder Timo Perez from the Reds and assigned him to Triple-A Memphis.

MWM
04-21-2006, 11:13 PM
I liked sticking with Arroyo there. His pitches were still hitting hteir spots and neither hit was hit that hard. His stuff was still good enough that I think he was the best bet to get out fielder, IMO.

nycredsfan
04-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Brewers announcer (listening on XM) just said that Vern Ruhle had some words for Arroyo as he came off. Is Ruhle back or was that a mistake?

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:13 PM
The bullpen should've been throwing to start this inning. Inexcusable to leave Arroyo out there when the book on him is that he loses massive amounts of effectiveness post pitch-100.

I know they were spent last night, but it's a close game and you can't let this slip away after such a great outing.
Yeah, I don't get that either. And they really weren't spent, just Belisle. Coffey could go if they needed him. If he had had a smooth 8th, I'd let him start the 9th, but after that inning, I'd get him outta here. Don't need "Grady Little" syndrome to lose a game.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Phillips grounds out to the catcher just in front of the plate. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Conversely, he's acknowledging that he's got a starter pitching brilliantly.

Gotta love it!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Ross grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Arroyo's night is over...it looks like Stormy will get the bottom of th 9th...

:pray:

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Brewers announcer (listening on XM) just said that Vern Ruhle had some words for Arroyo as he came off. Is Ruhle back or was that a mistake?

They're working from their printed press guide and didn't look at their updates, IMO.

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:15 PM
Brewers announcer (listening on XM) just said that Vern Ruhle had some words for Arroyo as he came off. Is Ruhle back or was that a mistake?
Is he? I don't believe he is. May be a mistake.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:15 PM
Valentin pinch hitting for Arroyo.
Great start by Arroyo: 8 IP, 1ER, 6H, 2BB, 8K.
Valentin pops out to 3rd. 3-1 Reds mid 9th.

Weathers coming in to pitch.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:15 PM
Javier Valentin pinch-hitting for Arroyo.


Great job tonight, Bronson!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/Charles_Bronson.jpg/180px-Charles_Bronson.jpg

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 11:16 PM
I heard that Arroyo has a rubber arm that he doesn't ice it.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:17 PM
Friggin Hall leading off.

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 11:17 PM
Bronson got through the big boys

redsfan30
04-21-2006, 11:17 PM
FANTASTIC outing tonight for Bronson Arroyo!

Finish it out, Stormy!!

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 11:17 PM
Reds killer plate bound

Aronchis
04-21-2006, 11:18 PM
Stormy Weathers la la da ta!

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:18 PM
buckle up

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 11:18 PM
Okay... Throw strikes here

gilpdawg
04-21-2006, 11:18 PM
Our old friend Elmer Dessens is in the game for KC. He's pitching well this year out of their pen, although they are terrible.
1.04 era/0.81 WHIP in 8 2/3 innings.

butlerbulldogs
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
why oh why not leave in Arroyo???

BRM
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
buckle up

Ye of little faith...

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
Okay... Throw strikes herehard not to, the zone has been the size of Texas tonight

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
why oh why not leave in Arroyo???

115 pitches probably was a big factor....it's only April

I wouldn't have had a problem with it, though...

butlerbulldogs
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
did weathers steal the beads from pokey reese or his teenage son??

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
Ye of little faith...ye of learned experience

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 11:20 PM
I dont know who Grande is more obsessed with... Edmonds, or Bill hall

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:20 PM
Hall strikes out swinging on an inside 3-2 pitch. 1 out.

butlerbulldogs
04-21-2006, 11:20 PM
115 pitches probably was a big factor....it's only April

I wouldn't have had a problem with it, though...

good point, but w/ the current bp situation, i would definitely leave him in

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:20 PM
1 down....

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:20 PM
What is Arroyo eating?! It looked like a Snack Pack!

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
Weathers is all over the place, good thing Hall bailed him out

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
2 down....

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
Koskie flies out to left. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
What is Arroyo eating?! It looked like a Snack Pack!

Lunchables!!

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
Going to the bottom of the order in a 2 run game -- this is a situation that I'd love to have Coffey for.

A perfect save opportunity to build confidence.

butlerbulldogs
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
i love snack pack

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:22 PM
Not for nothing, but shouldn't Kearns be a defensive replacement for Dunn???

2 away, let's go Dave.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:22 PM
I dont know who Grande is more obsessed with... Edmonds, or Bill hall

Ever since Steve said he was a Reds killer, he's struck out four times.

jesusfan
04-21-2006, 11:22 PM
I'd rather have a twinkie!

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 11:22 PM
Not for nothing, but shouldn't Kearns be a defensive replacement for Dunn???

2 away, let's go Dave.
They don't care about D ;)

BRM
04-21-2006, 11:23 PM
They don't care about D ;)

Defense is for wimps.

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 11:23 PM
Weathers is doing his Randy Myers impersonation, without the heat.

butlerbulldogs
04-21-2006, 11:23 PM
11-6, good start to the season!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Moeller strikes out swinging on a 3-2 pitch. Reds win 3-1!!!!

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Wow...Weathers got lucky that inning, but I'll take it! Nice win boys.

redsfan30
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Great win!

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds!

Dunner44
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
K!

pedro
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Nice win. Nice to get a game in at around 2 hours too.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
Wow - struck him out! Ten strikeouts for both teams - what a gem and I was only off by one run too! Maybe we should buy lottery tickets together!

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:25 PM
It must have been tough to see in there tonight. There had to have been at least 10 check swing 3rd strikes.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:25 PM
So shall we do this every Friday night? Pitching gems, low scoring, scrappy wins?

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:25 PM
And a big thanks to the BoSox for dealing Arroyo. I wonder if they'd deal Papelbon for Womack.

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 11:25 PM
Tracy Jones, Red Alert! Get back to the studio!

Chip R
04-21-2006, 11:25 PM
Great job tonight by Bronson and everyone else. Couple of the whipping boys had good nights.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Can there possibly be a bigger contrast from the game last night to the game tonight? From Grand Slam bombs to stolen bases, ground out advancements, and hustle runs.

This team is downright schizophrenic, but damn if they aren't entertaining to listen to

FlyingPig
04-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Man..I'd love for Marty to say that about 100 times this year..

:thumbup:


ok..90..


heck...85

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Wow - struck him out! Ten strikeouts for both teams - what a gem and I was only off by one run too! Maybe we should buy lottery tickets together!I honestly think it was hard to see and when combined with a big strike zone the batters were mostly helpless.

BTW, who says the Reds can't manufacture runs

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:27 PM
FYI...Lidge coughing one up right now.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 11:27 PM
This reminded me of games from back in the 80's: low-scoring pitching duels.

This was a well-played game on both sides.

Great win, Reds!

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:27 PM
FYI...ARod in a pressure situation.

Gallen5862
04-21-2006, 11:28 PM
"This one belongs to the Reds." Great Job by Arroyo.

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 11:28 PM
That can't be right, the Astros are playing the Pirates.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 11:28 PM
11-6 to start the season.

Nothing to be unhappy with about that.

Good ball game!!

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:28 PM
Great job tonight by Bronson and everyone else. Couple of the whipping boys had good nights.

That's our Friday night, low scoring scrappy line-up!

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 11:31 PM
That's our Friday night, low scoring scrappy line-up!

Well, they gotta let Austin out on Friday nights to hit the bars and spread those fantastic auditory genes.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 11:31 PM
ARod

http://www.merck.com/media/mmhe2/figures/fg299_2.gif

Aronchis
04-21-2006, 11:31 PM
A scrappy win, Narron is probably so proud...................

The Reds ERA must have taken a nice dive tonight.

flyer85
04-21-2006, 11:35 PM
I am guessing that leaving the roof open changes the hitting background(I had a friend tell me it does during the day) and the Brewers have been known to do that when Sheets is pitching. All of those check swings tells you the hitters were not seeing the ball.

Sea Ray
04-21-2006, 11:39 PM
Although the season is still quite young, a couple thoughts:

1) We've already hung losses on three of the best pitchers in the league (Sheets, Zambrano and Carpenter). We also beat the Marlins in a game started by Dontrelle Willis, probably the best LH SP in the league.

2) The Krivsky acquisitions have been major contributors...Phillips, Hatteberg and Arroyo. This reflects well upon our new GM's ability to evaluate talent. This skill has been lacking in the GM seat of this team for some time now.

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 11:40 PM
I'm glad that for once it's the Reds reminding the much-ballyhooed Brewers that they've not arrived--in fact they're both still living on the same block.

Oh, and no one scores on David Weathers.

Sea Ray
04-21-2006, 11:41 PM
The Reds always struggle against Sheets, so what does Narron do? He benches two of our better hitters. :rolleyes:

Whatever it takes to get a W...

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 11:47 PM
Later, folks, I should probably go get some things done - it was fun!

George Foster
04-21-2006, 11:49 PM
Whatever it takes to get a W...

I think Narron thought this one was a loss so it was a good time to give them a rest. This win was a "bonus" win to Narron.

membengal
04-21-2006, 11:52 PM
Re: sitting Kearns and EE...I didn't have the problem with it many of you voiced. Sheets is flat nasty in general, and sure as heck had his good stuff tonight as it turned out. Letting Kearns and EE avoid having to deal with that may very well keep them in a good hitting groove when they get back in tomorrow.

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 12:00 AM
todays posts 465
yesterdays posts 1396

wow

doug flynn
04-22-2006, 12:03 AM
todays posts 465
yesterdays posts 1396

wow

It looks as though most Zoners have a life a social life. ;)

MWM
04-22-2006, 12:04 AM
The game only took about two hours. last night's was 4 hours.

The Baumer
04-22-2006, 12:05 AM
McCracken used to sing backup on some of the old Motown records, so having him start tonight was fine by me. The sitting of Edwin E. was a good move as well because it gave him the opportunity to sit next to some crafty veterans and analyze baseball from a different perspective. I think I saw one brief dugout shot in the third inning where Womack was teaching Edwin how to look over his left shoulder and smile slyly into the camera.

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 12:07 AM
Whatever.

Cardinals purchased the contract of outfielder Timo Perez from the Reds and assigned him to Triple-A Memphis.

Just an afterthought to this post - not a bad move by Krivsky. Sign him to a minor league contract and two months later sell the contract to the Cards - not a bad business proposition and every cent helps out.

indyred
04-22-2006, 12:13 AM
Missed the game tonight.....was in cincy for card show......anybody read tom brownings book...he was there hawking it....i picked it up to brush up on my reds history...he would sign the book and another item.......and scooped up Gaylord Perry sig ... looks huge nowadays.......not that he was ever skinning....i barley remeber him.......but driving i did finally hear marty rip on dunn for k inng with runners on..he says some guys like rich a can get the job done and some can't like dunn.......heard narron say before the game kearns was 0-9 against sheets and wanted to get quentin some playing time..said q will be in the line up Sunday, somewhere....overall i like both marty and steve calling games........

Chip R
04-22-2006, 12:13 AM
Just an afterthought to this post - not a bad move by Krivsky. Sign him to a minor league contract and two months later sell the contract to the Cards - not a bad business proposition and every cent helps out.

I guess Timo got that visa situation straightened out where he could not play where people paid to see a game.

TeamBoone
04-22-2006, 12:34 AM
WHY? Arroyo doesn't throw a freaking knuckleball and he's not Randy Johnson. Why should we be pulling this crap?

Also, Narron is a moron, but you all knew that already.

Please, don't kill the messenger.


ON CATCHING: Javier Valentin started at catcher Thursday against the Brewers.

Two things went into that: Jason LaRue is going to get more rest than usual because he's coming off knee surgery, and Valentin was 5-for-9 against Milwaukee starter Tomo Ohka.

Narron will do his best to keep all three of his catchers sharp.

"I've got to do everything I can to get them all in there," Narron said. "Right now with LaRue, I cannot play him every day."

One possibility to get David Ross some playing time is to make him Bronson Arroyo's personal catcher, which Narron will consider.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060421/SPT04/604210377/1071

traderumor
04-22-2006, 12:49 AM
The way Arroyo pitched tonight, if he thinks a catcher is helping him, go for it. That was a great example of the art of pitching by both hurlers tonight, but I think Bronson was just a little bit better.

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 01:01 AM
BOOOOO DANNY GRAVES!!! :D

Despite Bob Wickmans best attempts to blow it in the 9th, Danny Graves got the win tonight when he recorded the final out in the 6th inning. :D

indyred
04-22-2006, 01:16 AM
i bet the tribe uses him for one out situations for awhile...........he must have no confidence

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 01:25 AM
i bet the tribe uses him for one out situations for awhile...........he must have no confidence

He could all the confidence of Van Wilder but it wouldn't help the fact that he throws a velocity-less fastball with no movement.

reds44
04-22-2006, 01:56 AM
Woo-hoo!!!!

that is all

Big Klu
04-22-2006, 01:58 AM
Despite Bob Wickmans best attempts to blow it in the 9th, Danny Graves got the win tonight when he recorded the final out in the 6th inning. :D

AAAUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! :angry:

redsrule2500
04-22-2006, 05:25 AM
The Reds always struggle against Sheets, so what does Narron do? He benches two of our better hitters. :rolleyes:

Best part is, it worked :thumbup:

GAC
04-22-2006, 06:04 AM
Bottom of the 7th, Red Stockings holding a 1 run lead. Bronson, if you know what's good for you, you're gonna not want to turn this one over to the 'pen.

Bill Hall - Distinguished Reds Killer, Esq. - steps into bat. You know, there are a lot of these Reds Killers out there. Makes me wonder if the real Reds killer isn't the Reds pitching -- or Adam Dunn and his lack of contact.

Is that you Marty! What's next? Reading emails on the gamethread? :lol:

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/team/broadcasters/marty_brennaman.jpg

(just kiddin' Caveat. You're a breath of fresh air on here). ;)

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 07:35 AM
I thought I'd post the Milwaukee paper's assessment of Arroyo:


The Brewers scored their only run of the night on the very first pitch they saw.

After Sheets set the Reds down in order in the first, centerfielder Gabe Gross, starting in place of Brady Clark, whacked the first pitch from Reds starter Bronson Arroyo over the right-field wall and into the Cincinnati bullpen.

"He was going to just try to ease one in there for Strike 1, and I saw it well and put a good swing on it," said Gross, who was 2 for 10 against Arroyo when the two were in the American League.

"I thought we were going to get him," Sheets said. "The first pitch was a home run and I'm, like, 'All right, this is going to be sweet.' "

Instead, Arroyo immediately cut off the Brewers' sugar supply.

"He wasn't throwing too many first-pitch cookies after that," Brewers rightfielder Geoff Jenkins said. "It must have woke him up because he beared down after that and made some good pitches.

"He was using both sides of the plate. You've got to get better pitches to hit, and obviously we didn't choose the right pitches to capitalize on."

Of course, Arroyo said of that first pitch that he realized that a former teammate was coaching third base (Dale Sveum??) and that he was going to have to mix it up a bit differently for the night, which of course, he did.

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 07:37 AM
I thought I'd post the Milwaukee paper's assessment of Arroyo:

Here's the link to the story in the Journal Sentinal

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=417871

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 07:41 AM
I love this offense. Narron throws out a crappy offense against a great pitcher, on a night when said pitcher has his best stuff, and they still squeak out three runs and win the game. If this team had an average pitching staff then they would possibly have the best record in baseball.

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 07:45 AM
and whoever called Sheet's K count only missed by 1 - very well done - and I'd like to think I'm still on par for my 3-2 (and I'll take 2-1 to keep the theme up of being just one off).

Edabbs prediction of 11 K's is even more prescient when you see this tidbit from the Milwaukee paper:


When Sheets came back from a 3-0 count to whiff Quinton McCracken in the sixth inning, it marked the 11th time the right-hander struck out at least 10 batters in a game.

That's where your 11 was coming from!

GAC
04-22-2006, 10:44 AM
I love this offense. Narron throws out a crappy offense against a great pitcher, on a night when said pitcher has his best stuff, and they still squeak out three runs and win the game. If this team had an average pitching staff then they would possibly have the best record in baseball.

But was it really a crappy offense? Lets give them credit... guys like RA and Hatteberg were very instrumental last night in the Red's win. And against a very good pitcher too.

cumberlandreds
04-22-2006, 11:02 AM
But was it really a crappy offense? Lets give them credit... guys like RA and Hatteberg were very instrumental last night in the Red's win. And against a very good pitcher too.
For a MLB team to contend for the playoffs they have win their share of 2-1 and 3-2 games. The Reds have won two games like that in the last week. 1-0 over the Cards and 3-1 last night. I think that is a good sign for this team. It's just a matter of getting that consistency in the pitching over the course of a 162 game season.

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 11:11 AM
But was it really a crappy offense? Lets give them credit... guys like RA and Hatteberg were very instrumental last night in the Red's win. And against a very good pitcher too.

I wondered about the outcry too. I think Aurelia always adds something and is valuable coming off the bench. He proved last year to be a clutch hitter for us with runners in scoring position. I've also been pleased with the Hatteberg pick-up and find him a valuable piece of the puzzle too. I was surprised he hadn't had an RBI since Opening Day, but he took care of that last night. I also take Narron at his word that McCracken was more about getting him playing time than sitting Austin. It proved masterful last night behind the stellar pitching of Arroyo too.

TeamBoone
04-22-2006, 11:53 AM
Here's Arroyo's assessment of the HR:


"As soon as he hit it out of the park, I immediately looked over at Dale Sveum and forgot that he was my third base coach [in Boston] the last couple of years," said Arroyo. "I thought it was funny. Nobody has swung at that pitch all year."

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 12:01 PM
Here's Arroyo's assessment of the HR:

And now that the cat is out of the bag, that first pitch down the middle will most likely have to be history.

Sea Ray
04-22-2006, 07:35 PM
For a MLB team to contend for the playoffs they have win their share of 2-1 and 3-2 games. The Reds have won two games like that in the last week. 1-0 over the Cards and 3-1 last night. I think that is a good sign for this team. It's just a matter of getting that consistency in the pitching over the course of a 162 game season.

I think it bodes well too, but we know the pitching is the key and now with the announcement of Milton's injury, we see how thin our pitching is organizationally. We need our pitchers to step up and improve their game and to stay relatively healthy. If Milton's only out for another ten days (meaning a 15 day DL visit) then we'll be OK. An extended visit to the DL will be hard for this team to weather.