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Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 07:28 PM
Aurilia and McCracken gets starts.

Heath
04-21-2006, 07:30 PM
Matt - you aren't funny.

Stop the medication.

The Baumer
04-21-2006, 07:30 PM
Is this the April 1st game thread?

red-in-la
04-21-2006, 07:31 PM
No, take more....much, much more.....

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 07:31 PM
The Reds always struggle against Sheets, so what does Narron do? He benches two of our better hitters. :rolleyes:

pedro
04-21-2006, 07:32 PM
Bill Lee says he's in favor of drug testing.

He tested everything.

Cedric
04-21-2006, 07:36 PM
Hopefully it's not the flu or something.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 07:39 PM
The Reds always struggle against Sheets, so what does Narron do? He benches two of our better hitters. :rolleyes:
Kooky pitchers

wheels
04-21-2006, 07:41 PM
Is Womack starting?

I have a feeling he is.

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 07:42 PM
Kearns needs a day off.

Encarnacion? Bloody mystery to me. :(

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 07:43 PM
Wanna give Rich a start give him 1st.

Buckeye33
04-21-2006, 07:43 PM
My prediction:

1. Freel CF
2. Lopez SS
3. Hatteberg 1B
4. Dunn LF
5. Aurilia 3B
6. Phillips 2B
7. LaRue C
8. McCraken RF
9. Arroyo P

Why bench BOTH Kearns and EE. One getting a night off, fine. But not both,

cumberlandreds
04-21-2006, 07:45 PM
Yea, the lineup needs a shakeup. Only scored 21 runs the last two games.:rolleyes:

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 07:45 PM
Why bench BOTH Kearns and EE. One getting a night off, fine. But not both,

Narron is apparently concerned that the pitching staff is getting complacent after too many nights seeing double-digit numbers on the scoreboard.

MWM
04-21-2006, 07:47 PM
Narron is apparently concerned that the pitching staff is getting complacent after too many nights seeing double-digit numbers on the scoreboard.

Zing! :beerme:

Cyclone792
04-21-2006, 07:47 PM
Kearns needs a day off.

Encarnacion? Bloody mystery to me. :(

Yep, I would personally start Encarnacion myself too and elect to give him one of the weekend games off (preferably tomorrow), but Kearns does need a day off. Regardless, this is our 11th straight game without an off day, and we're in the midst of a stretch of 16 straight games without an off day. Plus tomorrow is a day game after a night game so it's a virtual guarantee that both are back in the lineup immediately tomorrow afternoon.

This is just about trying to keep our main cogs fresh to get through this stretch of games. I wouldn't read into it anymore than that.

MWM
04-21-2006, 07:50 PM
Dunn has played every game. He should be getting a day off soon. He hasn't looked so good at the plate the last couple of games.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 07:54 PM
Kearns needs a day off.

Encarnacion? Bloody mystery to me. :(

I've got both of these guys on my fantasy team too.

Cyclone792
04-21-2006, 07:56 PM
Dunn has played every game. He should be getting a day off soon. He hasn't looked so good at the plate the last couple of games.

If I had to guess, I bet Dunn gets Sunday off vs. LHP Doug Davis. In 2004 and 2005, Dunn was 2-18 with two singles and one walk off Davis. Add in that Dunn needs a day off and Davis is a lefty, and it looks like a good afternoon for Adam to take a break.

Just a hunch.

TOBTTReds
04-21-2006, 07:56 PM
Why does it matter? Arroyo is in the lineup!

wheels
04-21-2006, 07:59 PM
I don't mind EE sitting.

Sheets can make the best of hitters look bad when he's on.

Let Eddie cool his heels and breathe it all in.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 08:00 PM
I don't mind these two playing so much as I'm going to mind the order they are in :help:

TeamBoone
04-21-2006, 08:03 PM
Horrible lineup. You'd never know this is a division game.

Why would you EVER keep two of your best hitters out of the same game? Doesn't it make more sense to rotate days off so that this never happens?

pedro
04-21-2006, 08:06 PM
Horrible lineup. You'd never know this is a division game.

Why would you EVER keep two of your best hitters out of the same game? Doesn't it make more sense to rotate days off so that this never happens?

They haven't even announced the lineups yet.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 08:08 PM
Dunn has played every game. He should be getting a day off soon. He hasn't looked so good at the plate the last couple of games.

Should have sit him against Dontrelle, IMO.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 08:09 PM
She's just assuming like I am that Rich and Quintin are batting in the top 5 ;)

pedro
04-21-2006, 08:11 PM
She's just assuming like I am that Rich and Quintin are batting in the top 5 ;)

In fact, it's going to be this.

1. Mccracken
2. Aurilia
3. Aurilia
4. Aurilia
5. Mccracken
6. Aurilia
7. Mccracken
8. Mccracken
9. Arroyo

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 08:12 PM
Freel
Lopez
Dunn
Aurillia
Hatte
McCracken
Phillips
Ross
Arroyo

according to mlb.com

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 08:14 PM
Maybe a deal going down.:eek:

pedro
04-21-2006, 08:15 PM
ok. now feel free to complain. :)

MrCinatit
04-21-2006, 08:15 PM
Egads - Rich batting clean-up, and Scott following him?
So...on a completely unrelated subject, what is available on the "manager" market.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 08:16 PM
Maybe a deal going down.:eek:

Too early in the year for anything major. Teams are still evaluating their own chances. Maybe Womack or Ross/Valentin going, but nothing that would be involving two marquee players like EE and Kearns.

Especially since both are seeing their value skyrocket with every AB, it seems.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 08:16 PM
Boy that's a lineup that just heads for the cow pasture after the 3 hitter.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 08:18 PM
LaRue sitting again tonight.

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 08:18 PM
Looks like a Strikefest tonite.

Heath
04-21-2006, 08:19 PM
I'm really tired - I have put lots of later hours then normal at work. This evening I was really looking forward in sitting the easy chair with the remote and settling in and watching this one.

I'm not sure if I'll just skip the game tonight - and take my own "off" night.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 08:20 PM
Gross CF
Hardy SS
Jenkins RF
Lee LF
Fielder 1B
Hall Reds Killa
Koskie 3B
Moeller C
Sheets P

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 08:21 PM
Boy that's a lineup that just heads for the cow pasture after the 3 hitter.

Well, on one hand...how long have we all wished this team was more like the Cardinals?

We got our wish tonight: 2 impact hitters at the top and then 6 guys named Joe rounding the lineup out.

listen up
04-21-2006, 08:21 PM
Seriously what's his infatuation with batting Hatteberg in the meat of the lineup every night. Note to Jerry, it's ok to move Hatteberg down in the lineup a bit since he's a soft hitting double play machine.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 08:21 PM
That lineup is brutal. Narron isn't giving Arroyo much of a chance to get a win in this one.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 08:21 PM
Call it in Heath

It's a kooky lineup.

Red in Chicago
04-21-2006, 08:22 PM
boy am i glad i didn't make the drive up to milwaukee tonight...i was thisclose to making the trip:D

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 08:24 PM
boy am i glad i didn't make the drive up to milwaukee tonight...i was thisclose to making the trip:D

It's like going to a grapefruit league game and realizing the only two people on the 25 man that the big league club sent were Jason Romano and Corky Miller.

Tonight must be a Split-Squad with the other half of the team in Winter Haven.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 08:25 PM
Freel
Lopez
Dunn
Aurillia
Hatte
McCracken
Phillips
Ross
Arroyo

according to mlb.com

If they HAVE to all play tonight, it should go:

Freel
Lopez
Dunn
Arroyo
Phillips
Aurilia
Ross
Hatte
McCracken

A little sarcasm, a little truth.

Aronchis
04-21-2006, 08:27 PM
The horror the horror!!!!!!

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 08:29 PM
You know what Womack is thinking? If I can't get in this Line up ......

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 08:30 PM
What happend to the love for Phillips from last night?

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 08:33 PM
How many Ks does Sheets get in this lineup? I'm thinking 7 innings, 11 Ks.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 08:34 PM
We got our wish tonight: 2 impact hitters at the top and then 6 guys named Joe rounding the lineup out.

And what's wrong with guys named Joe???? :D

joe

Redlegs23
04-21-2006, 08:35 PM
What happend to the love for Phillips from last night?


Phillips isn't a crafty vet like Hatteberg & Richie.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 08:36 PM
How many Ks does Sheets get in this lineup? I'm thinking 7 innings, 11 Ks.

As long was we win 3-2, I'm okay with that... ;)

WVRedsFan
04-21-2006, 08:36 PM
I'm showing my age here, but what's all this stuff about "having to give" guys in their 20's a rest 16 games into the season? I can remember years that the good players, barring injury, would play 158 of 162 games. They only were not in the lineup when they requested they get the night off. And while I maybe could understand one of the two right handed hitters not being in the lineup, both is just a travesty.

Why is it that we always get the same manager just with a different name and accent? I see traits of Bob Boone in both Miley and Narron. I see traits of Miley in Narron. Why doesn;t anyone in this organization hae the guts to go out and get a real manager?

And while I'm on this tirade, I wonder why every Sunday (well, most of them), we have to look at a lineup that is foreign to what we see all week? Narron is so stuck in the rut that was Boone and Miley (and other non-successful managers) that he follows his plan regardless of the situation.

I stand amazed...

Heath
04-21-2006, 08:36 PM
As long was we win 3-2, I'm okay with that... ;)

actually we'd win 9-2.

Just sayin' :D

GAC
04-21-2006, 08:39 PM
With the shape/conditioning that players are in today, why do they need days off? I never understood that. Must be a strong union. ;)

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 08:40 PM
actually we'd win 9-2.

Just sayin' :D

Not to hear everyone decrying tonight's line-up!

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 08:41 PM
BATTER VS. PITCHER (Career)
vs Ben Sheets
Player AB H HR BB SO AVG
McCracken 1 1 0 0 0 1.000
Freel 3 2 0 0 1 .667
Williams 4 2 0 0 0 .500
Valentin 6 2 1 2 0 .333
Womack 13 4 0 2 1 .308
Complete Batter vs Pitcher

BATTER VS. PITCHER (Career)
vs Bronson Arroyo
Player AB H HR BB SO AVG
Lee 4 2 0 0 1 .500
Jenkins 3 1 1 1 0 .333
Gross 10 2 0 1 1 .200
Koskie 12 2 1 2 3 .167
Fielder 0 0 0 0 0 0
Complete Batter vs Pitcher

I knew Williams was good for something PH Vs Sheets

PickOff
04-21-2006, 08:41 PM
LaRue sitting again tonight.

Ross is Arroyo's personal catcher. Ross is the only one that has caught him. I'm serious BTW.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 08:44 PM
Ross is Arroyo's personal catcher. Ross is the only one that has caught him. I'm serious BTW.

Actually, I'm looking forward to seeing Ross catch tonight. I'm serious too BTW. :)

SirFelixCat
04-21-2006, 08:46 PM
Going to lay down and watch the game on the couch. gO rEDs!

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 08:46 PM
With the shape/conditioning that players are in today, why do they need days off? I never understood that. Must be a strong union. ;)
Slackers.

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 08:47 PM
I'm showing my age here, but what's all this stuff about "having to give" guys in their 20's a rest 16 games into the season? I can remember years that the good players, barring injury, would play 158 of 162 games. They only were not in the lineup when they requested they get the night off. And while I maybe could understand one of the two right handed hitters not being in the lineup, both is just a travesty.

Why is it that we always get the same manager just with a different name and accent? I see traits of Bob Boone in both Miley and Narron. I see traits of Miley in Narron. Why doesn;t anyone in this organization hae the guts to go out and get a real manager?

And while I'm on this tirade, I wonder why every Sunday (well, most of them), we have to look at a lineup that is foreign to what we see all week? Narron is so stuck in the rut that was Boone and Miley (and other non-successful managers) that he follows his plan regardless of the situation.

I stand amazed...

I agree with you on those points. But I think, with the investments in some of these guys, some front office types are scared to run a guy into the ground. But that is still no excuse for this lineup they are fielding tonight. If nothing else, it shows how pathetic the bench is. And another thing, if anyone needs a rest on this team it is Freel. Especially since they were, before Grif got hurt, so set in their ways about telling anyone who would listen that Freel could not play every day b/c of how hard he played. This will be his 8th game in a row.

GAC
04-21-2006, 08:47 PM
Going to lay down and watch the game on the couch. gO rEDs!

Slacker! ;)

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 08:48 PM
Slacker! ;)
No, he's a lollygagger

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 08:48 PM
BATTER VS. PITCHER (Career)
vs Ben Sheets
Player AB H HR BB SO AVG
McCracken 1 1 0 0 0 1.000
Freel 3 2 0 0 1 .667
Williams 4 2 0 0 0 .500
Valentin 6 2 1 2 0 .333
Womack 13 4 0 2 1 .308
Complete Batter vs Pitcher

BATTER VS. PITCHER (Career)
vs Bronson Arroyo
Player AB H HR BB SO AVG
Lee 4 2 0 0 1 .500
Jenkins 3 1 1 1 0 .333
Gross 10 2 0 1 1 .200
Koskie 12 2 1 2 3 .167
Fielder 0 0 0 0 0 0
Complete Batter vs Pitcher

I knew Williams was good for something PH Vs Sheets


McCrack is hitting 1.000 against Sheets??? He should definitely be starting. Why isn't he hitting leadoff??? :laugh:

TeamBoone
04-21-2006, 08:49 PM
They haven't even announced the lineups yet.

Yes, they have. When I went in at 6:55 the Reds lineup was posted.

TeamBoone
04-21-2006, 08:52 PM
LaRue sitting again tonight.

I read an article this AM that said Ross will probably be Arroyo's personal catcher, though not yet etched in stone.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 08:55 PM
I agree with you on those points. But I think, with the investments in some of these guys, some front office types are scared to run a guy into the ground. But that is still no excuse for this lineup they are fielding tonight. If nothing else, it shows how pathetic the bench is. And another thing, if anyone needs a rest on this team it is Freel. Especially since they were, before Grif got hurt, so set in their ways about telling anyone who would listen that Freel could not play every day b/c of how hard he played. This will be his 8th game in a row.

Just listened to Narron with Marty and he said he wanted to get McCracken a start and wanted to give Kearns a breather - I thought I heard him say he's been like 0 for his last 9 or something like that (can't recall if that's correct).

SirFelixCat
04-21-2006, 08:55 PM
No, he's a lollygagger


I lollygagged to work, on one hour of sleep, I lollygagged home.

Know what that makes me?


Yeah yeah, guilty :mooner:

edabbs44
04-21-2006, 08:57 PM
He almost killed Ohka last night with a single, so maybe Narron was in the shower when that happened.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 08:58 PM
He almost killed Ohka last night with a single, so maybe Narron was in the shower when that happened.

LOL again - that just might be. :laugh:

GAC
04-21-2006, 08:59 PM
I lollygagged to work, on one hour of sleep, I lollygagged home.

Know what that makes me?


Yeah yeah, guilty :mooner:

Being a 3rd shifter, I got off work this morning, and though I tried, only got about 2 hrs of sleep.

I'm kinda zombified myself.

TeamBoone
04-21-2006, 08:59 PM
Kearns, last three games... 2-14 with 2 BB.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:01 PM
My lineup with tonight's personnel:

Freel cf
Lopez ss
Dunn lf
Aurilia 3b
Hatteberg 1b
Phillips 2b
Ross c
McCracken rf
Arroyo p

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:01 PM
Narron got last night off, so it's only fair he give some guys off tonight. ;)

Puffy
04-21-2006, 09:05 PM
With the shape/conditioning that players are in today, why do they need days off? I never understood that.

Me neither.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 09:06 PM
Narron got last night off, so it's only fair he give some guys off tonight. ;)

:laugh: :laugh:

RedFanAlways1966
04-21-2006, 09:07 PM
Last time the REDS beat Ben Sheets?

July 11, 2003... REDS win 6-1. Ryan Dempster throws 7 innings of 1 run ball and gets the win. Who hurt Sheets? Uh... Guillen 3-5, Larkin 2-5, Jimenez 2-5. Griffey w/ a HR.

It's been such a long time...

dsmith421
04-21-2006, 09:09 PM
I read an article this AM that said Ross will probably be Arroyo's personal catcher, though not yet etched in stone.

WHY? Arroyo doesn't throw a freaking knuckleball and he's not Randy Johnson. Why should we be pulling this crap?

Also, Narron is a moron, but you all knew that already.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 09:09 PM
Dunn looked horrible. Swung at three pitches no where near the strikezone.

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:10 PM
Man! A couple bad calls by the umps there!

1-2-3 inning

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:10 PM
That was quick.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:10 PM
Me neither.
Totally insignificant question but is it "me neither" or "me either"? Just curious because Ive said it both ways.

dsmith421
04-21-2006, 09:10 PM
Sheets dominant in the top of the first:

Freel strikes out swinging
Lopez grounds to short
Dunn strikes out swinging

Gallen5862
04-21-2006, 09:11 PM
Maybe we allow Ross to be Arroyo's Personal Catcher to keep him happy.

TC81190
04-21-2006, 09:12 PM
w00

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 09:12 PM
That's probably ballgame with the way Sheets looked in the first inning.;)

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:12 PM
Gross Hr

1-0 Brewers

RedFanAlways1966
04-21-2006, 09:12 PM
That was Gross... HR on the 1st pitch.

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:12 PM
Chat's open! ;)

TeamCasey
04-21-2006, 09:13 PM
They haven't even announced the lineups yet.

Yeah, they did.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:13 PM
Great start Reds...Per usual, spot them a bunch then come back later on.

Call it Narronology.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:14 PM
That's probably ballgame with the way Sheets looked in the first inning.

No way that Yost lets Sheets go a full 9 coming off injury the way he is. The Reds will get a look at the bullpen tonight, and that gives them a chance as long as they don't get TOO far behind (say, no more than 5 runs :evil: )

IslandRed
04-21-2006, 09:14 PM
WHY? Arroyo doesn't throw a freaking knuckleball and he's not Randy Johnson. Why should we be pulling this crap?

The "personal catcher" thing seems to be a trend, maybe starting with Greg Maddux, I don't know. Catchers are an exception to the thing about not needing a lot of days off, their legs are toast by the end of the year if they don't get regular rest. So I guess the logic is, if you're going to rest the catcher every 4-5 games anyway, sync it with the pitching rotation so each starter gets to throw to the same catcher most of the time.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 09:14 PM
Great start Reds...Per usual, spot them a bunch then come back later on.

Call it Narronology.

Ya, down 9-0 - we got ya right where we wantcha! :beerme:

dsmith421
04-21-2006, 09:15 PM
Maybe we allow Ross to be Arroyo's Personal Catcher to keep him happy.

I just think it's ridiculous that a guy with 30-some career wins gets to designate a guy as his personal catcher. That's the kind of perk you get when you a) have done 10 years in the bigs and developed a relationship with a player, or b) throw a pitch some of your catchers can't handle.

EDIT: If Arroyo is the one that wants Ross catching him, that is. I understand the rotation issue but we do now have three catchers on the roster and both Val and LaRue are much better hitters.

TeamCasey
04-21-2006, 09:15 PM
Being a 3rd shifter, I got off work this morning, and though I tried, only got about 2 hrs of sleep.

I'm kinda zombified myself.

Was up at 3:00 this morning. I'll never make it through this game. SLEEPY

(and I should be celebrating.)

RedFanAlways1966
04-21-2006, 09:16 PM
Arroyo had given up 4 HRs in his prior 3 starts. 2 HRs in starts 1 (Cubs) & 3 (Cards), 0 HR in start 2 (Cubs).

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 09:16 PM
Is that chat full of lollygaggers?

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:17 PM
He was safe.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 09:17 PM
GREAT range by Phillips.

The Baumer
04-21-2006, 09:17 PM
Karma. Gets you everytime, Prince.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 09:18 PM
I just think it's ridiculous that a guy with 30-some career wins gets to designate a guy as his personal catcher. That's the kind of perk you get when you a) have done 10 years in the bigs and developed a relationship with a player, or b) throw a pitch some of your catchers can't handle.

EDIT: If Arroyo is the one that wants Ross catching him, that is. I understand the rotation issue but we do now have three catchers on the roster and both Val and LaRue are much better hitters.

I was just getting ready to say that I didn't get the sense it was Arroyo asking but Narron choosing to do this. He may be seeing some good chemistry and wants to keep it that way. Heck, he may even ask him to the prom if the chemistry is good.

IslandRed
04-21-2006, 09:18 PM
Score check: 1-0 Brewers after 1.

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 09:19 PM
In the corner of the dugout, Womack continues to work feverishly on his Brandon Phillips voodoo doll.

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 09:19 PM
At least Arroyo didn't have to throw 26 pitches that inning.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:20 PM
In the corner of the dugout, Womack continues to work feverishly on his Brandon Phillips voodoo doll.

He can't undo the damage already caused by hundreds of RedsZoners who were working their Womack voodoo dolls earlier last month.

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:21 PM
Major league baseball umpires are bad. There needs to be a better method to evaluating these guys. I'm flabbergasted at how how many calls that aren't close they get wrong, not to mention balls and strikes.

KronoRed
04-21-2006, 09:21 PM
He can't undo the damage already caused by hundreds of RedsZoners who were working their Womack voodoo dolls earlier last month.
I've had mine done since the trade :D

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:22 PM
Sheets is on tonight.

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:23 PM
The Reds best shot tonight is to be patient and try to get Sheets to throw a lot of pithces. It's his second outing of the season, so they might not let him throw a lot of pitches. Because he's dialed in tonight.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 09:23 PM
Sheets is on tonight.

Yep, and the umpires low strikezone isn't going to help much either.

McCracken doubles.

RedFanAlways1966
04-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Sheets still hasn't retired McCracken in his career... double down the right field line.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Q with a double down the RF line!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/STQalien.jpg/200px-STQalien.jpg

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Nasty change up.

MrCinatit
04-21-2006, 09:25 PM
Chris Welsh "He moved up from the eight spot all the way to the seven spot".
Yeah. That is a huge jump, Chris. Great analysis.

IslandRed
04-21-2006, 09:25 PM
Score check: 1-0 Brewers after 1.5.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:25 PM
Phillips should have attempted to run that one out.

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:25 PM
I sure hope last night's performance doesn't make him go all Pokey Reese and start swinging from the heels trying to hit HRs.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 09:26 PM
Phillips should have attempted to run that one out.

Yep.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 09:30 PM
According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch his next start.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:31 PM
According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch his next start.
I weep

MrCinatit
04-21-2006, 09:31 PM
According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch his next start.

Let the struggling pitchers continue working on the mound, and sit the hitters when they are hot.
Genius!

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 09:32 PM
According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch his next start.

I know I haven't seen enough.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:32 PM
Sheets looks scared batting

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:33 PM
I've got the MLB Audio going in the library, I'll kick in some PBP for the "Joe" innings (3,4,7) if somebody else wants to cover the rest. :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 09:34 PM
I weep

Here you go...

http://www.techno-topics.us/janitorial/images/240/ZKCC8033.JPG

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 09:35 PM
David Ross bunting? WTF?

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 09:35 PM
According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch his next start.

Where is that Galooly guy when you need him.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 09:35 PM
Pujols has hit #11 tonight. I swear, you would think at least one team would be smart and pitch around him. There are two hitters in that lineup, why pitch to Pujols?

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 09:36 PM
According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch his next start.

Actually, he won't. It's all part of a top-secret strategy to lure the other team into a false sense of security and then switch to Belisle just before game time.

Narron's crafty.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:37 PM
Top of the 3rd, Good Guys trialing by 1

Dave Ross tries his luck against Ben Sheets. Maybe the Reds should try raiding some other pitchers from that old Team USA squad -- I'd guess even the ones that washed out can at least throw 85 on a regular basis.

Steve mentions that Ross is the person catcher for Arroyo, proving once and for all it's not what you do, it's who you hang on the coattails of.

Ross runs the count to 2-2 before popping out to Jenkins for the first out. I miss LaRue already.

1 out

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 09:37 PM
The Sultan of Swat, Bronson Arroyo up to the plate.. :P

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:37 PM
I like Arroyo in the double ear-flap helmet! :D

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:37 PM
It sure does make a telecast so much better listening to intelligent announcers. Theses guys are good.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
Arroyo looks pretty sweet in the double flaps.

THNDRacket
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
To paraphrase Marty, "Isn't George grand?"

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
Sheets is mowin em down... this is a weak lineup.

3.0 1 0 0 0 5 is his line.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
Top 3rd, 1 out

Bronson Arroyo, the distinctly non-Judy hitting pitcher, designatedly hits for himself. He gets behind 0-2, because that's just what pitchers do. Apparently he's been taking batting tips from Aaron Harang. He strikes out looking.

If he could bat against Glendon Rusch every time, he'd probably OPS about 3.000.

2 outs.

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
If the Reds lose tonight, it's tough to be too worried about it. Sometimes you just come up against a great pitcher and he shuts you downs. Sheets tonight looks almost unhittable.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
I like Arroyo in the double ear-flap helmet! :D

He looks like a bat boy in that thing. :laugh:

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:38 PM
This game might be over in 90 minutes.

IslandRed
04-21-2006, 09:39 PM
Score check: 1-0 Brewers after 2.5. (Oops, didn't see where CE had started PBP. Carry on.)

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:39 PM
Top 3rd, 2 out

Ryan Freel, The White Guy Fans Inexplicably Like and hits a quick flyball out to Jenkins. No attempt to work the count whatsoever = decidedly unscrappy.

3 outs. Sheets = Dealing.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:39 PM
Good God...5 K against the Reds.

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:39 PM
Correction...


According to Hal, Jerry says Dave Williams will pitch batting practice during his next start.

MrCinatit
04-21-2006, 09:39 PM
I think Arroyo and Dunn have switched batting helmets. Arroyo's looks about 12 times too big for him, Dunn looks like he's wearing a coffee cup on his head. .
Not that it matters. As long as what they wear gives them the right Mojo and Karma, we're okay.

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 09:40 PM
If Arroyo keeps it close, it will be interesting.

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 09:40 PM
Correction...
LOL:D

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 09:40 PM
Correction...

I appologize for my inaccuracies...

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:42 PM
He looks like a bat boy in that thing. :laugh:

If I were a big-league player, I would probably use the double-earflap because I'm a switch-hitter, and I would rather have just one helmet. (Less for me to worry about!) :D

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:43 PM
Bottom of the 3rd, Beermen up 1

Gabe Gross up to see his 2nd pitch of the evening. Didn't hit a homer on the first called strike and I, for one, am mildly disappointed. The count runs full at 3-2, meaning his P/PA has now tripled for the evening. Gross hits a disgusting ground ball to Phillips for the out.

1 out.

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 09:43 PM
FYI,

If your ever in Evansville, IN...Gerontes pizza is pretty tasty.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:44 PM
Bottom 3, 1 out

J.J. Hardy Har Har up for the 2nd time tonight. Steve describes Aurillia as "creeping in" -- but I'm betting the creaking knees give him away. Hardy grounds out to Lopez who makes the routine play.

2 out.

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 09:44 PM
Nice seeing a Reds pitcher that can pitch instead of that train wreck we got
yesterday.

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:44 PM
FYI,

If your ever in Evansville, IN...Gerontes pizza is pretty tasty.

I'll keep that in mind. If you're ever in Ann Arbor, New York Pizza Depot is awesome. BUt you have to go to Big Ten Burrito. It's incredible. :thumbup:

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 09:46 PM
I'll keep that in mind. If you're ever in Ann Arbor, New York Pizza Depot is awesome. BUt you have to go to Big Ten Burrito. It's incredible. :thumbup:

As a Buckeyes fan, I hope to never find myself in Ann Arbour. :thumbup:

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:46 PM
Bottom 3, 2 out

Geoff Jenkins, the man named after a Toys R Us spokesman, comes up for his 2nd AB of the evening. Arroyo punches him out swinging, declaring his undying allegiance to Kay Bee Toys.

1-2-3 from Bronson.

Tomo Ohka screaming at the pitchers from the dugout to slow down, that he can't follow the game at such a breakneck pace.

1-0 Mil

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:47 PM
As a Buckeyes fan, I hope to never find myself in Ann Arbour. :thumbup:

I'm a Buckeye fan and I LOVE Ann Arbor. It's one of the great American towns.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:48 PM
Felipe finds a creative way to get on base!

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 09:48 PM
Lopez K's but gets on base.....

dsmith421
04-21-2006, 09:48 PM
If the Reds lose tonight, it's tough to be too worried about it. Sometimes you just come up against a great pitcher and he shuts you downs. Sheets tonight looks almost unhittable.

Yeah, I agree with this, but when you put out a lineup this craptastic you are vastly increasing the chances of getting shut down. Neither team has done much hitting yet--this could be one of those games where a lucky swing makes the difference, and I trust Encarnacion, LaRue, and Kearnsy way more than the stiffs Narron runs out there.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:48 PM
4th Inning starts...

Felipe Lopez looking to get work done, but falls behind 0-2. Stewart describes Ben Sheets as a "Machine" -- where is John Connor when you need him?

Lopez strikes out, but takes 1st on the Wild Pitch. Somewhere, Bad Fundamental's head explodes.

1 on, 0 out

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 09:48 PM
Here we go Felo

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:48 PM
What are they booing for. Felipe was clearly safe.

smith288
04-21-2006, 09:49 PM
If I were a big-league player, I would probably use the double-earflap because I'm a switch-hitter, and I would rather have just one helmet. (Less for me to worry about!) :D
You dont worry about squat. The batboy handles it.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:50 PM
4th innin - 1 on, 0 out

Adam Dunn up batting, smelling fear in Ben Sheet's general direction. Felipe Lopez decides to take 2nd, and gets my fantasy team another SB, his 6th of the season.

Dunn hits a bouncer to the right side, moving the runner to third. I predict an insufferable response on the "I Hate Dunn" Thread by MU.

1 out, man on 3rd.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:50 PM
You dont worry about squat. The batboy handles it.

Good point! LOL

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 09:50 PM
Ben Sheets is so underrated.

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:51 PM
Productive out by Dunn.

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 09:51 PM
There we go Nature's wrath!

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:51 PM
RA singles in the tying run!!!!!!!

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 09:52 PM
If I were a big-league player, I would probably use the double-earflap because I'm a switch-hitter, and I would rather have just one helmet. (Less for me to worry about!) :D

You could be like Olerud and wear it in the field. That way you wouldn't worry about where you left it. :D

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:52 PM
WOOOO!!! The Nature Boy Rich Aurilia comes through!!! WOOOOO!!!!

MWM
04-21-2006, 09:52 PM
Who says the Reds aren't capable of manufacturing runs? They can do it when it's needed.

redsfan30
04-21-2006, 09:52 PM
Rich Aurilia with another hit in scoring postion.

Stolen base, Dunn moves the runner over and Aurilia drives him in???

Is the sky falling??

Tie Game!

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:52 PM
4th inning, Lopez on 3rd, 1 out

Rich Aurillia, The Human Glass Ceiling, up to bat with a chance to get an RBI in and tie the game up. If he does or he doesn't, one thing is certain: this isn't going to be a 1-0 game. He hits a base hit into left field and drives the run in.

Ball game is all tied up. Bullpen happy about the chance to now blow a lead instead of letting the game get out of hand.

1-1, 1 out

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 09:52 PM
Tie game folks!

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:53 PM
4th Inning, 1 on, 1 otu

Scott Hatteberg human picks a flyout. Why he carries a bat is beyond me.

2 out, 1 on.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:54 PM
You could be like Olerud and wear it in the field. That way you wouldn't worry about where you left it. :D

Actually, I would want one of those flapless batting helmets like Pete Rose and Johnny Bench wore, but they aren't legal anymore! :D

pedro
04-21-2006, 09:54 PM
Sheets is filthy.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:54 PM
4th inning, 1 on, 2 out

Queintin McCracken swings and hits a bouncer to Prince Fielder, who gets funky and takes hte ball to the bag himself. Prince trots off the field like it's 1999.

3 out, tie game.

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 09:54 PM
4th Inning, 1 on, 1 otu

Scott Hatteberg human picks a flyout. Why he carries a bat is beyond me.

2 out, 1 on.

So, does he walk big and carry a soft stick?

RBA
04-21-2006, 09:56 PM
CHATS OPEN!!!!http://www.redszone.com/forums/FlashChat/flashchat.php

GAC
04-21-2006, 09:56 PM
Kracken is scrappy in RF on Fielder's blop.

1 out

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:57 PM
Bottom of the 4th, it's all tied up as Arroyo goes back to work...

Carlos Lee takes a first strike and is promptly called a wuss by Gabe Gross from the dugout. Real men apparently hit on the first pitch. After getting down 0-2, Lee pops out to McCracken in right.

1 out.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 09:57 PM
Q looks like he is a serviceable backup outfielder. (He reminds me a little of Herm Winningham or Billy Hatcher.)

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:57 PM
Bottom 4th, 1 out

Prince Fielder pops out to Rich Aurillia, who watches it fall into his glove like purple rain.

2 out.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 09:58 PM
Will someone please tell me why Ross continues calling for pitches letter high? I could understand it if Arroro threw 97 mph - but he doesn't. That is going to come and bite them in the butt when someone belts a home run.

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 09:58 PM
Arroyo cruising...

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 09:59 PM
4th inning, 2 out

William Hall - Reds Killer - up with 2 down. I wonder if he ever needed a pass to get of class in elementary school. Arroyo sits him down swinging, retiring his 8th batter in a Arrow.

Arroyo: Dealing
Sheets: Dealing

This game could go by REAL quick.

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 09:59 PM
Arroyo trying to keep up with Sheets pace...

Arroyo's line: 4.0 3 1 1 0 4 - 1 HR

Sheets line: 4.0 2 1 1 0 6

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 10:00 PM
Will someone please tell me why Ross continues calling for pitches letter high? I could understand it if Arroro threw 97 mph - but he doesn't. That is going to come and bite them in the butt when someone belts a home run.

Because his other pitches are setting it up?

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:00 PM
Through 4: Arroyo 53 pitches, Sheets 50 pitches

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:00 PM
William Hall - Reds Killer - up with 2 down. I wonder if he ever needed a pass to get of class in elementary school.

Oh, that would be a Hall Pass :laugh:

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2006, 10:01 PM
Alright, I gotta get back to Bankruptcy Law -- I'll be back for the 7th inning.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:01 PM
I can do a couple innings of PBP until the 7th.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:02 PM
Phillips doubles down the left field line.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 10:03 PM
Phillips doubles down the left field line.

That man is on fire.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:03 PM
OK, Phillips is out of my doghouse. He didn't run out that dropped third strike in the second, but he was definitely thinking three out of the box on that double down the LF line. If Carlos Lee had lollygagged that one any more than he did, Phillips would have been on third.

Gandalf the Red
04-21-2006, 10:03 PM
Phillips doubles down the left field line.

Tony Womack on his cell phone, discussing options with Tony Soprano.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Ross strikes out swinging on a low breaking ball. 1 out.

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Time to move BP out of the 7th-8th spot?

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Let me rephrase that, as doghouse is probably too strong a word. I have been really high on Brandon Phillips ever since the Reds got him, but I was disappointed in his effort on that dropped third strike in the second. However, he redeemed himself in my eyes.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Arroyo strikes out swinging. 8 K's for Sheets. 2 outs.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 10:07 PM
Arroyo needs a chin strap on his helmet. That would rock.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:08 PM
Arroyo needs a chin strap on his helmet. That would rock.

And a facemask! :D

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 10:08 PM
Let me rephrase that, as doghouse is probably too strong a word. I have been really high on Brandon Phillips ever since the Reds got him, but I was disappointed in his effort on that dropped third strike in the second. However, he redeemed himself in my eyes.

No doubt he was hustling out of the box on that double, but that BA driven OBP is going catch up with him sooner or later.

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
wow! nice! 2-1 Redlegs

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Freel reaches on an infield single. Great hustle by Phillips he never stops running and scores. 2-1 Reds.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Way to go BP and Freel! Speed kills!!

flyer85
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
speed kills

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Scrappiness!!!

MWM
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Wow, the Reds are really showing they can scratch out runs when needed. This is the most balanced offense I've seen in Cincinnati in years. It's fun to watch all the different ways they can beat you. They've hit exactly two balls hard all night and have a 2-1 lead to show for it.

HotCorner
04-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Wow! Small ball.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:10 PM
Freel reaches on an infield single. Great hustle by Phillips he never stops running and scores. 2-1 Reds.

He's working on staying out of Big Klu's doghouse, harsh or not!

Parliament
04-21-2006, 10:10 PM
great play!

GAC
04-21-2006, 10:10 PM
Freel's speed gave us that run.

Heads up play by Philips and Berry at 3B

2-1 Reds

redsfan30
04-21-2006, 10:10 PM
I had already settled in on the couch to enjoy the rest of the game, but had to get up and post on that play.

Outstanding hustle by both Freel and Phillips!! That's what speed and hustle can do for you!

Great job!!!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:10 PM
Lopez lines a single to center. 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:11 PM
They're playing some scrappy ball - although Steve says they're "Pesky"

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 10:12 PM
They're playing some scrappy ball - although Steve says they're "Pesky"

Steve didn't get "the memo".

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:12 PM
This inning is also making Sheets throw a lot of pitches....another good thing.

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:12 PM
great play!

Welcome aboard, George Clinton and Parliament!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1c/George_Clinton_%28resized%29.jpg/180px-George_Clinton_%28resized%29.jpg

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Welcome aboard, George Clinton and Parliament!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1c/George_Clinton_%28resized%29.jpg/180px-George_Clinton_%28resized%29.jpg

P-Funk!

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Dunn strikes out swinging as he can't check his swing. 9 K's for Sheets. 2-1 Reds mid 5th.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Marty mentions the number of pitches Sheets has thrown and notes he's definitely on a pitch count - Gameday shows he's up to about 71 pitches (54 strikes)

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
nasty pitch gets Dunn. Adam missed his chance at a belt high 95 mph fastball earlier in AB

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Dunn needs a day off; he looks awful right now. Took a perfect strike down the middle, fouled off a belt high fastball, and then chased one in the dirt. You can when he is struggling because he swings at everything.

Parliament
04-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Welcome aboard, George Clinton and Parliament!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1c/George_Clinton_%28resized%29.jpg/180px-George_Clinton_%28resized%29.jpg
Saw them live in New Orleans! :beerme:

And thanks for the welcome:D

Big Klu
04-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Dunn needs a day off; he looks awful right now. Took a perfect strike down the middle, fouled off a belt high fastball, and then chased one in the dirt. You can when he is struggling because he swings at everything.

I would guess that he will get the day off against the lefty on Sunday.

MWM
04-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Sheets has thrown 75 pitches through 5 innings.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Check - that's 75 pitches after five innings.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2006, 10:16 PM
Saw them live in New Orleans! :beerme:

And thanks for the welcome:D

I think they're going to be in Memphis for the Beale Street Music Festival which I will be attending in 2 weeks...

I can't wait for 2 weeks!!! :beerme:

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:16 PM
Koskie grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 10:17 PM
Dunn needs a day off; he looks awful right now. Took a perfect strike down the middle, fouled off a belt high fastball, and then chased one in the dirt. You can when he is struggling because he swings at everything.

Agree. I'm not worried, just seems like he is in that funk again where he's thinking too much.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:17 PM
Moeller strikes out swinging. 5 K's for Arroyo. 2 outs.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:18 PM
1-2-3 - sweet

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:18 PM
Sheets grounds out to short. 2-1 Reds after 5.

Fullboat
04-21-2006, 10:18 PM
Man!! Its a delight watching this guy pitch.

CrackerJack
04-21-2006, 10:18 PM
Arroyo still cruising...

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:18 PM
63 pitches through 5 for Arroyo.

rdiersin
04-21-2006, 10:19 PM
Does Arroyo typically drop down and do a sidearm every once in awhile? I hadn't seen that with him, but he did that to Moeller, unless my eyes deceived me.

Falls City Beer
04-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Does Arroyo typically drop down and do a sidearm every once in awhile? I hadn't seen that with him, but he did that to Moeller, unless my eyes doth deceived me.

Yeah, he does. He threw about 10-15% of his pitches sidearm on Sunday.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:21 PM
Aurilia flies out to center. 1 out.

cincyinco
04-21-2006, 10:21 PM
Does Arroyo typically drop down and do a sidearm every once in awhile? I hadn't seen that with him, but he did that to Moeller, unless my eyes deceived me.

Yes.. he changes arm angles a lot. Arroyo relies on deception quite a bit.

redsmetz
04-21-2006, 10:21 PM
It's funny McCracken is playing tonight. I bought a box of about 10,000 baseball cards summer before last and have been selling them on eBay, mostly in team groups, but I've pulled out some individual cards, plus I had the newer teams set aside. I found a 1998 McCracken card his first year with the Devil Rays.

MWM
04-21-2006, 10:21 PM
Wow, Jenkins is SLOW out there in right field.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2006, 10:22 PM
Hatteberg lines a double to the wall in right center.

Reds Nd2
04-21-2006, 10:22 PM
Does Arroyo typically drop down and do a sidearm every once in awhile? I hadn't seen that with him, but he did that to Moeller, unless my eyes deceived me.

He'll change his arm slot from time to time just to give the batters a different look.

StillFunkyB
04-21-2006, 10:22 PM
Marty ripping on JimBo. Then Steve chimed in with a "At least he didn't talk about 5 tools!" HAHAHAHAHAHA