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Reds Fanatic
04-22-2006, 01:50 PM
Starting Lineups:



Reds (11 - 6)
2nd in NL Central
Brewers (8 - 9)
5th in NL Central

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. R Freel, CF .314 0 4 8
2. F Lopez, SS .299 3 8 6
3. A Dunn, LF .263 8 14 0
4. A Kearns, RF .303 5 12 0
5. S Hatteberg, 1B .308 1 4 0
6. E Encarnacion, 3B .288 3 14 0
7. B Phillips, 2B .353 2 13 0
8. J LaRue, C .333 0 0 0
9. B Claussen, P .000 0 0 0

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. B Clark, CF .214 0 3 0
2. J Hardy, SS .265 2 8 1
3. G Jenkins, RF .261 3 8 1
4. C Lee, LF .339 8 16 0
5. P Fielder, 1B .359 2 10 1
6. B Hall, 3B .268 2 5 0
7. R Weeks, 2B .283 0 4 3
8. D Miller, C .263 0 6 0
9. D Bush, P .167 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
B Claussen 1 1 3.18 1.12 15

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
D Bush 1 1 5.21 1.16 14

redsmetz
04-22-2006, 01:53 PM
Thumping or Small Ball today? Thundering or Scrappy (aka Pesky in Milwaukee)?

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 01:54 PM
Satan asks for thermometer as CE declares this is a lineup that he has absolutely no problems with.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 01:54 PM
Aurilia's not going to be happy....honestly, I'd put him at 1st, he's done well and deserves to play in my opinion.

redsfanfalcon
04-22-2006, 02:01 PM
I agree that Aurilia deserves to play. Hatteberg has been hitting better lately, but even so, Aurilia at first defensively and offensively is an upgrade.

gilpdawg
04-22-2006, 02:02 PM
I had to do a double-take when I saw Ears was batting cleanup.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 02:03 PM
Lets not beat around the Bush today.... Lets go out and win the game early.

Tommyjohn25
04-22-2006, 02:05 PM
Wow...good lineup. There I said it.

Big Klu
04-22-2006, 02:06 PM
Aurilia's not going to be happy....honestly, I'd put him at 1st, he's done well and deserves to play in my opinion.

He will be back in there at 1B tomorrow against the lefty. But I agree that Richie has played well, and I have come around regarding him this year. I think the big reason why I like Aurilia this year is that he seems to be less of a "me" player, and more of a "we" player. He seems to have accepted his role of utility infielder, sort of like a Dave Concepcion from 1987-88 with a lot more pop in his bat!


The batting order for today is almost exactly how I would have it. I would switch the Cat in the Hatte and EZ-E, and otherwise leave it alone. My lineup (with today's personnel):

Freel cf
Lopez ss
Dunn lf
Kearns rf
Encarnacion 3b
Hatteberg 1b
Phillips 2b
LaRue c
Claussen p

pedro
04-22-2006, 02:19 PM
Aurilia hasn't hit righties well this year.

ba-.185 / obp -.185 / slg -.259 / ops .444

he has 25 ab's against RH and 27 against LH.

Hatteberg OTOH, has a line against RH of ba -.290 / obp-.450 / slg-.484 / ops- .934 in 31 ab's.

I don't see any reason for RA to be in there against RH pitching at this point. Although i will admit I like him better defensively at 1B than Hatteberg.

Patrick Bateman
04-22-2006, 02:22 PM
I agree that Aurilia deserves to play. Hatteberg has been hitting better lately, but even so, Aurilia at first defensively and offensively is an upgrade.

Aurilia .269 .304 .500 .804

Hatteberg .308 .460 .462 .922

With Hatteberg getting on base at a .460 clip, it's puzzling why he gets grief around here, and it's even more puzzling why he gets that grief at Aurilia's expense.

Hatteberg and Aurilia have both performed admirably and should both continue to be in the rotation. Hatteberg will sit tomorrow for Aurilia with Davis starting.

traderumor
04-22-2006, 02:23 PM
To say Aurilia should be in there instead of Hatteberg is nothing short of bias. And the defense is not that much different. This is the best lineup the Reds can put out there right now, except I'd flip Hatteberg and EE in the order.

pedro
04-22-2006, 02:24 PM
I think they make a pretty good cheap 1B platoon. Although I'd like to see Hatteberg batting lower in the lineup and I'm not super happy with SH's defense thus far.

registerthis
04-22-2006, 02:26 PM
Not a bad looking lineup at all. And with Claussen on the mound, I like our chances.

'Tis a shame that Dunn can't head to first when Junior comes back. Honestly, that lineup would be killer.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 02:28 PM
Aurilia .269 .304 .500 .804

Hatteberg .308 .460 .462 .922

With Hatteberg getting on base at a .460 clip, it's puzzling why he gets grief around here, and it's even more puzzling why he gets that grief at Aurilia's expense.

Hatteberg and Aurilia have both performed admirably and should both continue to be in the rotation. Hatteberg will sit tomorrow for Aurilia with Davis starting.

I'm not giving him grief, and I do like the lineup....I just think right now, somehow, someway, Rich deserves PT. He's done well.

However, having so many guys who deserve PT with only 8 spots to fill isn't a bad problem to have...and it gives the team breathing room to make a trade down the line. Assuming our Redlegs stay in the hunt, I believe a trade will happen.

westofyou
04-22-2006, 02:29 PM
Aurilia .269 .304 .500 .804

Hatteberg .308 .460 .462 .922

With Hatteberg getting on base at a .460 clip, it's puzzling why he gets grief around here, and it's even more puzzling why he gets that grief at Aurilia's expense.


I agree, it's got to be some of the following.

Scrappy Factor... plus Aurilia makes loud outs, nice facial exprressions and very gamer body language, very emotional guy... very east coast. Hatteberg has a choppy little swing and little power, and he's quiet and laid back, very west coast plus he's the new type 2 FA in town, and a Moneyball refuge always an easy target.

pedro
04-22-2006, 02:30 PM
I'm not giving him grief, and I do like the lineup....I just think right now, somehow, someway, Rich deserves PT. He's done well.

However, having so many guys who deserve PT with only 8 spots to fill isn't a bad problem to have...and it gives the team breathing room to make a trade down the line.

But it's clear his doing well has been against LH pitching. Why put him in situations where he's not likely to succeed?

indyred
04-22-2006, 02:34 PM
roof closed today...........

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 02:35 PM
I agree, it's got to be some of the following.

Scrappy Factor... plus Aurilia makes loud outs, nice facial exprressions and very gamer body language, very emotional guy... very east coast. Hatteberg has a choppy little swing and little power, and he's quiet and laid back, very west coast plus he's the new type 2 FA in town, and a Moneyball refuge always an easy target.


This couldn't be any more dead-on. Dude, you have just threaded 12 axeheads.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 02:35 PM
I agree, it's got to be some of the following.

Scrappy Factor... plus Aurilia makes loud outs, nice facial exprressions and very gamer body language, very emotional guy... very east coast. Hatteberg has a choppy little swing and little power, and he's quiet and laid back, very west coast plus he's the new type 2 FA in town, and a Moneyball refuge always an easy target.

Hatteberg also started off slowly -- not a lot of hitting but a lot of good PAs that drew walks. He's been really hitting better in the last few games.

I think some of the dislike is residual from that.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 02:37 PM
But it's clear his doing well has been against LH pitching. Why put him in situations where he's not likely to succeed?

There isn't...I wasn't aware of how he fared against LH/RH until you posted stats.....that's where my not being a big stat guy hurts me.
:)

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 02:40 PM
The batting order for today is almost exactly how I would have it. I would switch the Cat in the Hatte and EZ-E, and otherwise leave it alone.

I like Top Hatt hitting ahead of EzE. Hatt getting on base against righties at a .450 clip and Encarnacion is slugging .545 against them. Should provide some RBI ops for a hot hitter throughout the game.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 02:42 PM
If I can work some nicknaming in reverse, since Chuck Mangione is "The Hat," I think it's only appropriate to call Hatte, "Chuck Mangione."

westofyou
04-22-2006, 02:46 PM
Feels so good

pedro
04-22-2006, 02:47 PM
If I can work some nicknaming in reverse, since Chuck Mangione is "The Hat," I think it's only appropriate to call Hatte, "Chuck Mangione."

or by logical extension we could call him "feels so good".

that song always reminds me of cincinnati in the late 70's

Crosley68
04-22-2006, 02:47 PM
I like this line-up.......but I admit that the Brewer line-up is a good looking one also. That is a pretty good team.

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 02:47 PM
Stop.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 02:49 PM
If I can work some nicknaming in reverse, since Chuck Mangione is "The Hat," I think it's only appropriate to call Hatte, "Chuck Mangione."

Ironically enough, when Scott plays Monopoly he always gets into fights with people over being the thimble instead of making the obvious choice.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 02:49 PM
that song always reminds me of cincinnati in the late 70's

No kidding.

I think the song served as the background music to some oft-played local commercial, IIRC. Heady middle-school, early high school days in the great Queen City!

pedro
04-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Stop.

Save the complaints for a party conversation.
The world is loaded, it's lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop...
No one... No one! No way! Gonna stop, now; go!
Farm people, book wavers, soul savers, love preachers!
Lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop.
One come a day, the water will run,
no man will stand for things that he had done...
Hurrah!
And the water will run...
One come a day, the water will run,
no man will stand for things that he had done...
Hurrah!
And the water will run...
Will Run!
Will Run!
Gimmie that!
Gimmie that -- your automobile, turn off that smokestack and
that goddamn radio - hum... along with me...
Hum along with the t.v. A-a-a-a-m-m-m-m-m-m.
No one's-gonna-stop.

westofyou
04-22-2006, 02:51 PM
CHUCK MANGIONE: Hi, I'm Chuck Mangione, and at Mega Lo Mart, our prices are falling faster than I am!

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 02:51 PM
No more Chuck.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 02:52 PM
CHUCK MANGIONE: Hi, I'm Chuck Mangione, and at Mega Lo Mart, our prices are falling faster than I am!

"By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings."

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 02:52 PM
No more Chuck.

Oh, go hug your trumpet!

pedro
04-22-2006, 02:53 PM
"By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings."

:laugh: :laugh:

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 02:53 PM
Help

guttle11
04-22-2006, 02:59 PM
Does Hatteberg live in a toilet paper fort?

BoydsOfSummer
04-22-2006, 03:01 PM
Let's go boys....hit 'em where they aint!

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2006, 03:04 PM
So far the REDS bullpen has given the best support to Brandon Claussen in terms of ERA...

* Claussen: 9 IP, 3 ER, 3.00 ERA.
* Williams: 14 IP, 7 ER, 4.50 ERA.
* B Arroyo: 8.1 IP, 6 ER, 6.48 ERA.
* Eric Milton: 9 IP, 7 ER, 7.00 ERA.
* Harang: 13.1 IP, 11 ER, 7.43 ERA.

So far the offense has given the least support to Brandon Claussen in terms of Runs per Game...

* Claussen: 3G, 16R, 5.33 R/G.
* Williams: 3 G, 18R, 6.00 R/G.
* B Arroyo: 4G, 27R, 6.75 R/G.
* Er Milton: 3G, 21R, 7.00 R/G.
* Harang: 4 G, 28R, 7.00 R/G.

Notice how the orders are the same. Those who get the most offense also get the bad BP... vice versa.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:07 PM
And we are underway.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:07 PM
4 pitch walk for Freel.

registerthis
04-22-2006, 03:07 PM
First pitch a ball, we've got this one in the bag. :)

registerthis
04-22-2006, 03:08 PM
4 pitch walk for Freel.

Have I mentioned that I hate the MLB audio delay?

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:10 PM
Freel takes 2nd on a wild pitch.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:11 PM
FeLo K's on a pitch on the inside part of the plate.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:12 PM
Freel gets caught stealin 3rd base.

2 outs.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:12 PM
close....

indyred
04-22-2006, 03:12 PM
no risp rip now for marty to hammer dunn on if he does nothing

registerthis
04-22-2006, 03:12 PM
Marty doesn't sound impressed with the call...

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:13 PM
Dunner K's.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Marty doesn't sound impressed with the call...

Steve pointed out that sometimes an umpire will call "out" if the throw beats the runner even if the tag doesn't...

Marty's response: "that's a bunch of crap." :lol:

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Marty doesn't sound impressed with the call...

It was a bang bang play. Looks like Freel probably got his hand in before the tag put on him. But he was called out. Anyways, Freel didn't get a good jump on the pitch or he would of made it with ease.

GAC
04-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Chat is open folks!

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:15 PM
Dunn again swings at a ball. He needs a day off. For some reason he swings at everything when he slumps.

That inning went down hill fast. I like Freel - but he isn't the smartest player out there. Why he continues to try to steal third base I don't know why, especially when the best hitters are coming up.

David Bush is the type of pitcher the Reds always make look great. I hope that trend doesn't continue today.

GAC
04-22-2006, 03:16 PM
To say Aurilia should be in there instead of Hatteberg is nothing short of bias. And the defense is not that much different. This is the best lineup the Reds can put out there right now, except I'd flip Hatteberg and EE in the order.

That's right.

Basically - just toss a coin. :lol:

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:17 PM
B. Clark grounds out to 1st base.

1 out.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:18 PM
Hardy skies it out to 3rd base.

2 outs.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 03:18 PM
Dunn again swings at a ball. He needs a day off. For some reason he swings at everything when he slumps.

That inning went down hill fast. I like Free - but he isn't the smartest player out there. Why he continues to try to steal third base I don't know why, especially when the best hitters are coming up.

I tend to look at it as a percentages game. If Freel steals bases at a 70% clip, he has a better chance of making it to 2nd on an SB than he does waiting for a the batter to move him over, since even the best Reds hitters only reaches base a little under 40% of the time.

I agree with you on 3rd base, though. He's fast enough that he's coming in on anything out of the infield -- it's not a smart risk.

Patrick Bateman
04-22-2006, 03:18 PM
I like Free - but he isn't the smartest player out there. Why he continues to try to steal third base I don't know why, especially when the best hitters are coming up.



Maybe so he can score on an out???

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:20 PM
Jenkins flies out to left.


Ears leads it off.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:20 PM
Maybe so he can score on an out???

It's not worth the risk when your best hitters are coming up. He's already in scoring position, no need to risk ruining an inning.

RedRage
04-22-2006, 03:22 PM
I think Freel feels bad with all the flak Dunner gets about Sac flies. Just trying to help him out a bit.

Patrick Bateman
04-22-2006, 03:23 PM
It's not worth the risk when your best hitters are coming up. He's already in scoring position, no need to risk ruining an inning.

Cnances of scoring from 3rd with one out is about 60-70%. From second about 25-30%. The odds favour Freel trying to steal third if he thinks he can make it. He looked safe.

Big Klu
04-22-2006, 03:23 PM
Is that the first time this year that Kearns has lost the bat?

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:23 PM
Kearns - hits it deep to right and its caught on the track.

1 out.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:25 PM
Hatteberg walks.

Eddie is up.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:26 PM
Edwin swings on the 1st pitch and pops it foul to 3rd.

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 03:27 PM
What's that book they're reading in the dugout?

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:28 PM
Phillips K's on an off-speed pitch.

after 1.5

0-0

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 03:29 PM
First time through the lineup of a former AL pitcher = learning curve.

I'm not worried in the slightest.

KYRedsFan
04-22-2006, 03:29 PM
Anyone able to cut and past the link from MLB radio so I can open it at work. Can't access the page but hoping I can directly open the link with media player. Thanks.

Cedric
04-22-2006, 03:30 PM
Jerry Coleman was the king. The king of unintentional hilarious quotes.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:30 PM
Cnances of scoring from 3rd with one out is about 60-70%. From second about 25-30%. The odds favour Freel trying to steal third if he thinks he can make it. He looked safe.

I don't care if he was safe or not, I still don't like it. I like my chances of scoring with Freel on second and my 3-4-5 hitters waiting in the wings.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:31 PM
C Lee is up - and pops it high in the air to right center. Kearns grabs it and 1 out.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:31 PM
Paul Wilson is sent to Dayton for rehab....

He HAS 30 days to be back with the Reds, but speculation is it won't be that long.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:32 PM
Jerry Coleman was the king. The king of unintentional hilarious quotes.

"whatchu talkin' 'bout, willis?"

Oh wait, that was Gary Coleman :D

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 03:32 PM
What's interesting is that Wilson will be on the same schedule as Williams.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:32 PM
Fay's speculation is when Griffey returns (next Friday - hopefully) will mark the end of Tony Womack.

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 03:33 PM
What's that book they're reading in the dugout?

Someone, maybe Dave Bush was reading the Reds Media Guide.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:33 PM
What's interesting is that Wilson will be on the same schedule as Williams.

Somehow I don't think that's a coincidence...

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:33 PM
Fielder is up - Hits a liner off the left center wall, Freel grabs it guns it to 2nd to make it a close play but he is in safe with a double.

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2006, 03:36 PM
Coming into today's game Claussen has only given up 1 HR in 3 starts (17IP). The HR was in his 1st start.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:36 PM
The Reds Killer number 10 Bill Hall is up and Brandon walks him.

Runners on 1st and 2nd. 1 out and Weeks is up.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:37 PM
Claussen has been all over the place these 1st two innings.....

TC81190
04-22-2006, 03:38 PM
Look at Rickie Weeks....pretending to be Gary Sheffield, how cute. :laugh:

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 03:38 PM
I know this goes without saying probably, but I really wish Claussen would become more efficient with his pitching. He's going to have a really short career if he doesn't learn to throw strikes with regularity.

GAC
04-22-2006, 03:38 PM
Chat is open. C'mon in!

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:39 PM
Weeks - Walks.

Bases now loaded for the Brew Crew - D. Miller is up.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 03:41 PM
Whoever is watching this: it looks like he's missing a lot and he's missing up. Is that right?

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 03:41 PM
who didn't see that coming...3-0 Brews

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:41 PM
Miller is now up.

Hits line drive to right center.

Miller clears the bases with a 3 run double.

flynn78
04-22-2006, 03:41 PM
Damian Miller goes shopping at the GAP. 3-0 Brew Crew

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
I think the Reds like playing from behind :lol:

CTA513
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
Whoever is watching this: it looks like he's missing a lot and he's missing up. Is that right?

Hes missing all over. :bang:

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
I think the Reds like playing from behind :lol:
I wouldn't doubt it

Big Klu
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
Whoever is watching this: it looks like he's missing a lot and he's missing up. Is that right?

Yes.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
You can't let the #8 hitter in the lineup beat you like that. Simply unacceptable pitching by Claussen to the soft-side of the lineup.

flynn78
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
Whoever is watching this: it looks like he's missing a lot and he's missing up. Is that right?
Falls he is missing everywhere. High has been the choice a couple times.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:43 PM
Bush grounds down the line Brandon picks it up and tags him out.

Miller goes to 3rd.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 03:43 PM
He's had atrocious control all year, even in spring training.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:43 PM
Whoever is watching this: it looks like he's missing a lot and he's missing up. Is that right?

He's missing everywhere. Looks like total crap again today. This one is going to be a blowout.

I correctly predicted that 3-run double before it even happened. When you can't throw a damn strike and are always working behind in the count, you simply can't succeed. This pitching staff is a joke.

SandyD
04-22-2006, 03:43 PM
I'm watching mlb-tv. FSN Ohio video but Brewers audio. They're confused about why Tom Hume is out there when Vern Ruhle is Reds pitching coach.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 03:43 PM
Belisle probably wont be able to throw long relief today, so hopefully Claussen settles down.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:44 PM
Edwin picks up a ground down the line and guns down the Runner at 1st.

After 2.

Brewers 3 Reds Zippo

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 03:44 PM
It's a lot like Arroyo's start on Sunday. I really wish this team had just a bit of consistency.

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 03:45 PM
Whoever is watching this: it looks like he's missing a lot and he's missing up. Is that right?

Yep.

Big Klu
04-22-2006, 03:45 PM
Belisle probably wont be able to throw long relief today, so hopefully Claussen settles down.

Yeah, but Williams might be available! :D

CTA513
04-22-2006, 03:46 PM
Yeah, but Williams might be available! :D

Id rather see Lopez, Encarnacion or Freel pitch.

:laugh:

Reds Fanatic
04-22-2006, 03:46 PM
Great catch by Jenkins robs Larue

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:46 PM
LaRue is up and lines it to right field and Jenkins makes a great diving catch.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:48 PM
Claussen K's.

flynn78
04-22-2006, 03:49 PM
Lots of game left. I'm staying cautiously optimistic.:)

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:50 PM
Freel K's swinging.


After 2.5

Brews 3 Reds 0

flynn78
04-22-2006, 03:50 PM
Freel K's

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 03:50 PM
Whiiifff...for Freel

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 03:50 PM
Doesn't look like the Reds can handle the slow stuff.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:50 PM
After taking the first two of this series I was hoping the Reds could win at least three of four, but it's not looking too good today or tomorrow with Milton scheduled to pitch.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 03:50 PM
If Claussen just throws some damn strikes, I think the Reds'll be fine today.

Big Klu
04-22-2006, 03:51 PM
My dog does that dance move like Jimmy Fallon does in the Pepsi commercial!

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 03:51 PM
I know the offense always comes around -- but do they have to make so many back of the rotation guys look like Nolan Ryan for innings at a time in the process?

flynn78
04-22-2006, 03:52 PM
I think it is safe to not count Milton out for the rest of the year. I don't know why all of the Milton bashing. Occasionally every pitcher has a bad start or two.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:53 PM
Hardy is up - And Hardy K's lookin. Claussen with 2 good pitches at the Knees that Hardy thought they were balls.

1 down.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 03:53 PM
I'd like to see EE and Phillips in front of the Hat

But otherwise :D

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 03:54 PM
I think it is safe to not count Milton out for the rest of the year. I don't know why all of the Milton bashing. Occasionally every pitcher has a bad start or two.
Last season is still strong with a lot of us

HotCorner
04-22-2006, 03:54 PM
Brandon's new nickname = Full Count ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:55 PM
I think it is safe to not count Milton out for the rest of the year. I don't know why all of the Milton bashing. Occasionally every pitcher has a bad start or two.

Eric Milton is not every pitcher, he posted a 6.47 ERA last year and it's already at 6.50 this yera after three starts.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:56 PM
Jenkins K's on a pitch low and outside.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 03:56 PM
Back-to-back K's as Jenkins chased ball 4.

SandyD
04-22-2006, 03:57 PM
"Do not fly kites, balloons, or model airplanes near power lines."

They're reading from the backs of bb cards handed out at the game today.

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 03:58 PM
Another full count

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:58 PM
C Lee is up - and Claussen walks him.

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 03:58 PM
I hate walks

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 03:59 PM
Strikeout, Strikeout, Walk, Strikeout...

Somewhere, up in the GM's box, Dan O'Brien is screaming "PITCH TO CONTACT!!!"

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 03:59 PM
Fielder is up and Claussen K's him lookin.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:00 PM
That was not a strike... but I'll take it.

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 04:00 PM
We need to get a couple runs back

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:01 PM
Yeah, what is it with the umpires this year? Remember back on Opening Day the strike zone was a match box, now it is all over the place. Seems more inconsistent this year than in recent years, even.

GAC
04-22-2006, 04:01 PM
67 pitches for Claussen

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 04:02 PM
"Do not fly kites, balloons, or model airplanes near power lines."

They're reading from the backs of bb cards handed out at the game today.

I'm jealous. I'm watching mlb.tv but I'm stuck with George and Chris.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:03 PM
Lopez K's on a high fastball.

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 04:03 PM
Jeez we can't touch this guy

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:03 PM
"Do not fly kites, balloons, or model airplanes near power lines."

Word to live by

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 04:03 PM
Dunn needs to hit one hard

SandyD
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
I'm jealous. I'm watching mlb.tv but I'm stuck with George and Chris.

Why would it be different?

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
My only fault with this offense - they continually make below average pitchers look good. Victor Santos, Sidney Ponson, Dave Bush...

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
That is strange. I'm watching MLB.tv, and I have FSN Ohio on video, with Uecker on audio.

pedro
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
I know what George was trying to say about Robin Yount but I don't think that came out quite right.

GAC
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
Dunn K's looking

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
Dunn K's looking....

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Hit please.

griffeyfreak4
04-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Not exactly what I meant by hit it hard.........

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
REDS Starters 2006 - Pct. of Strikes Thrown
Milton - 69.20%
Harang - 66.75%
Arroyo - 65.47%
Claussen - 63.23%
Williams - 58.67%
TOTAL - 65.40%

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
Kearns is up and he K's.

Good lord can we even hit this guy?

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
Getting no-hit by a guy with a 5.31 ERA.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:07 PM
You can hit Ben Sheets, but you cant hit this guy. :bang:

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:07 PM
Getting no-hit by a guy with a 5.31 ERA.
Fantastic

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
Crab rangoons are good.

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
Bush is showing D. Williams that you can throw 80-85 if you have a good curve and can bust a fastball at 88-90 once in a while.

rdiersin
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
I know what George was trying to say about Robin Yount but I don't think that came out quite right.

That's what I thought too. I was wondering if he lost where he was going with it. It sounded like he was going to say something more about Felipe and Yount, and just went somewhere else.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
David Bush strikes out the side, and I think to myself that things can't get much worse.

Then the worst commercial ever recorded comes on the radio (the awful Pepsi commercial with people just yelling out names of Itallian foods).

Proving me wrong yet agian.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
Billy Hall goes yard.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
Bush has great upside. He's suffering right now from what Dan Haren suffered a couple years back: the 5 inning syndrome. He'd be great for 5 innings, then he'd come absolutely unglued. I think the same thing can be said for Bush so far this year. But he can dial it up there, and add in the fact that the Reds have never seen this guy before....

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Well....shucks

GAC
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Getting no-hit by a guy with a 5.31 ERA.

But he is also a pitcher that none of these guys have seen before (except Hatteberg).

Give him a couple times through the lineup.

Hall homers

4-0 now

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Hall smacks one over the leftfield wall to lead off the Brewers 4th. 4-0, Brewers.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
4-0 :bang:

IslandRed
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Don't worry. All those whiffs are making him throw a lot of pitches. We'll get their bullpen. :thumbup:

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:10 PM
Weeks lines one over FeLo's head for a singe to left center.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:10 PM
I loath Bill Hall

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 04:10 PM
I'd get the bullpen warm.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:10 PM
Don't worry. All those whiffs are making him throw a lot of pitches. We'll get their bullpen. :thumbup:

Hes thrown 49 pitches in 4 innings.

KYRedsFan
04-22-2006, 04:11 PM
Our recent history with the Brewers (say like 5 years), is beyond comprehension. We make their rost look like a team of all stars every series.

IslandRed
04-22-2006, 04:11 PM
Hes thrown 49 pitches in 4 innings.

Oh well. Better start fouling off a few.

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:11 PM
The Brewers will see the Reds bullpen before the Reds see theirs.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
6-0

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Our recent history with the Brewers (say like 5 years), is beyond comprehension. We make their rost look like a team of all stars every series.
It's the battle for 5th place....nothing tops the passion

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
D. Miller with a homer to left.


Rick White is up in the pen.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Can't use Belise :help:

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Claussen stinking it up today...

westofyou
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Good day to do some yardwork.... The Brewers celebrate Earth Day by trying to launch a baseball into orbit.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
This team needs three starters and at least three relievers before they can even think of competing.

Why did I wake up early to watch this?

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Why would it be different?

I don't know. You would think it would be the same feed for everyone.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Bush singles to left.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Marty says we should call Brandon Claussen Forrest Gump, because like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get...

GAC
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Miller homers

6-0 now.

Bush singles!

I'm gonna go finish mowing the yard. Be back later. It always works. I'll come back, and the Reds will be back in it. ;)

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Can't use Belise :help:

Since he already went 4 innings the other day, they will have to use almost all of there bullpen today. :thumbdown

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:14 PM
I was hoping Claussen could have picked up a few ideas from Arroyo's performance last night, but unfortunately it looks like he had been studing Williams' instead.

Reds Fanatic
04-22-2006, 04:14 PM
Since he already went 4 innings the other day, they will have to use almost all of there bullpen today. :thumbdown
That is really bad news since we also have Milton pitching tomorrow.

westofyou
04-22-2006, 04:14 PM
Marty says we should call Brandon Claussen Forrest Gump, because like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get...
Today He's Chocolate Ex-Lax

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:14 PM
It's like every player on this team has an evil twin that will occasionally show up and do the opposite of what you expect.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
8-0

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
Claussen is just about as good as Dave Williams and Eric Milton.

Dunn just about got that one.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
That is really bad news since we also have Milton pitching tomorrow.

Pefect day to let position players pitch.

Falls City Beer
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
I don't understand this team: I really didn't think both Claussen and Harang would be this bad.

westofyou
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
Can the Reds move the fences back in Milwaukee too?

Reds Fanatic
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
3 home runs this inning.

BoydsOfSummer
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
eegads,the flood wall is down....run for your lives!

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:15 PM
And now Clark homers.....

Hello Narron?

SandyD
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
I don't know. You would think it would be the same feed for everyone.
That's what I thought.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
Need Milton to do well tomorrow :pray:

Handofdeath
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
This team needs three starters and at least three relievers before they can even think of competing.

Why did I wake up early to watch this?


My god, the Reds are 11-6. Please don't hurt yourself jumping off the bandwagon.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
I don't understand this team: I really didn't think both Claussen and Harang would be this bad.

They're not bad, there's just not good enough to be consistent either way.

IslandRed
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
Today isn't looking like a good day for ol' Pythagoras.

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Can the Reds move the fences back in Milwaukee too?

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
9-0

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Jerry, Get your ARSE out there and get him out of the game.


Hardy goes deep.

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:17 PM
This is actually good news - all that time sitting on the bench is stiffening up Bush's arm.

Wasn't it just last inning that Claussen struck out the side?

Reds Fanatic
04-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Ugh. now 4 home runs this inning.

HotCorner
04-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Narron gets him three batters too late

Reds Nd2
04-22-2006, 04:18 PM
That's what I thought.

At least you get to listen to Uecker today. It was a treat getting to hear him do the game Thursday night.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2006, 04:18 PM
My god, the Reds are 11-6. Please don't hurt yourself jumping off the bandwagon.

I was never on the bandwagon, pal. I knew this team wasn't going to the playoffs to begin with.

This team is about six good pitchers away from being a big playoff contender.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Narron gets him three batters too late

When you go to get your starter after 3.0+, there's no such thing as "X batters too late"

westofyou
04-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Claussen gets in the book... with Soto, 4 allowed in an inning, 1 week shy of the 20th anniversity


EXPOS 4TH: Dawson homered; Brooks homered; Thompson was called
out on strikes; Wallach homered; Newman singled to center;
Newman stole second; Fitzgerald homered [Newman scored]; Smith
made an out to shortstop; Raines walked; PRICE REPLACED SOTO
(PITCHING); Winningham singled to left [Raines to third]; Dawson
was called out on strikes; 5 R, 6 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Expos 5, Reds
1.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Hammond in.

lol

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Hammond and his 24.00 ERA takes over

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Claussen should never ever pitch against the Brewers.

Tommyjohn25
04-22-2006, 04:20 PM
What in the wide wide world of sports is going on right now. This is ridiculous.

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2006, 04:20 PM
Well... the starting rotation now has a combined ERA of over 6.07 for the year. Claussen ERA goes from 3.18 to 6.75 after today's game.

RedRage
04-22-2006, 04:20 PM
Narron gets him three batters too late

3 innings too late imo. :help:

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:21 PM
Jenkins K's.

KronoRed
04-22-2006, 04:21 PM
May I have another?

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:21 PM
On Uecker - I laughed Thursday night when he mentioned Junior Spivey was in the minors for the Cards or somebody, and his broadcast buddy said he'd look up the stats to see how he was doing. Uecker interupted and said "I'm not inerested."

And now the audio is screwed up - hearing an echo.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Hammond K's Lee.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Hopefully Hammond can give them 2 innings.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
10-0

BoydsOfSummer
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Claussen turned it from card day to Bud Selig autographed ball day. Everybody gets one!

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
If this game doesn't convince you that this team is destined for a slumber party with the Pirates in the division basement, nothing will.

CrackerJack
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Hr #5

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
It's 9-0, but you really can't count the Reds out yet...

Now it's 10-0.....hmmmm

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Fielder homers.

Handofdeath
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
I was never on the bandwagon, pal. I knew this team wasn't going to the playoffs to begin with.

This team is about six good pitchers away from being a big playoff contender.

And they are half a game out of first. It doesn't have to pretty but they are in second btw. Enjoy it.

traderumor
04-22-2006, 04:23 PM
I don't understand this team: I really didn't think both Claussen and Harang would be this bad.This is the first stinker Claussen has had. Harang is struggling, but four or five starts is not exactly dooming his season, plus he had the excellent start against St. Looey. Calm down folks. Our pitchers are gonna have bad days, even our ones we at least expect a little bit from.

IslandRed
04-22-2006, 04:23 PM
Ouch.

Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:23 PM
Ever notice - any ball park the Reds pitch in is a hitters' park?

SandyD
04-22-2006, 04:24 PM
At least you get to listen to Uecker today. It was a treat getting to hear him do the game Thursday night.

I don't mind so much. But I am curious why it would be different.

Remember the phrase "everybody hits"? How about "everyone hits a home run"?

M2
04-22-2006, 04:24 PM
As we watch Dave Bush today, remember that the Brewers got him, Gabe Gross (who homered yesterday and will probably take Brady Clark's job before the season ends) and Zach Jackson (a 2004 first-rounder now in AAA) for Lyle Overbay. For Sean Casey, whom I'd argue is a bit better than Overbay, the Reds got Dave Williams. This is how roads diverge.

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:24 PM
Ever notice - any ball park the Reds pitch in is a hitters' park?

The Reds could make Yellowstone a hitters park.

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:24 PM
Inning Over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedRage
04-22-2006, 04:25 PM
On a brighter note, we can use the rest of this game to see who stays employed between Hammonds and White. Yay! :KoolAid:

RedFanAlways1966
04-22-2006, 04:25 PM
So much for being on the positive side of run differential after that inning... REDS 110 - Oppo. 113.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:25 PM
They should let Freel pitch it would be alot more entertaining.

SandyD
04-22-2006, 04:26 PM
"The shaken and stunned Cincinnati Reds jog off the field in disbelief"

:laugh:

Caveat Emperor
04-22-2006, 04:26 PM
As we watch Dave Bush today, remember that the Brewers got him, Gabe Gross (who homered yesterday and will probably take Brady Clark's job before the season ends) and Zach Jackson (a 2004 first-rounder now in AAA) for Lyle Overbay. For Sean Casey, whom I'd argue is a bit better than Overbay, the Reds got Dave Williams. This is how roads diverge.

Might've been a deal the Reds could've gotten if they would've opened the wallet a little more and sent more cash with Casey's contract.

Dave Williams is what happens when you dump a contract as opposed to moving a player.

THNDRacket
04-22-2006, 04:26 PM
The Brewers have homered 5 times in the inning, and the Reds have struck out 5 times in a row.

traderumor
04-22-2006, 04:26 PM
If this game doesn't convince you that this team is destined for a slumber party with the Pirates in the division basement, nothing will.
Amazing.

CTA513
04-22-2006, 04:27 PM
"The shaken and stunned Cincinnati Reds jog off the field in disbelief"

:laugh:

Im sure they are already used to this kind of poop.

BoydsOfSummer
04-22-2006, 04:28 PM
Good news for Claussen is all those bombs only count as 1 on the 'ol WHIP. :D

RedsMan3203
04-22-2006, 04:28 PM
Hatteberg leads off the inning with a double.

Matt700wlw
04-22-2006, 04:28 PM
Rally!!!! :D