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Reds Fanatic
04-24-2006, 07:08 PM
Starting Lineups:


Lineups

Reds (12 - 7)
2nd in NL Central
Nationals (7 - 11)
4th in NL East

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. R Freel, CF .296 0 4 8
2. F Lopez, SS .276 3 8 6
3. A Dunn, LF .258 8 14 0
4. A Kearns, RF .306 5 15 1
5. S Hatteberg, 1B .310 1 4 0
6. E Encarnacion, 3B .267 3 17 0
7. B Phillips, 2B .372 3 17 0
8. J Valentin, C .238 0 2 0
9. E Ramirez, P - - - -

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. A Soriano, LF .329 6 12 5
2. J Vidro, 2B .368 3 14 1
3. N Johnson, 1B .385 5 10 2
4. J Guillen, RF .294 1 5 0
5. R Zimmerman, 3B .232 1 12 1
6. R Church, CF .310 4 9 1
7. R Clayton, SS .258 0 6 0
8. B Schneider, C .193 0 4 0
9. L Hernandez, P .400 1 1 0

Starting Pitcher
E Ramirez
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
L Hernandez 1 2 7.11 1.70 18

smith288
04-24-2006, 07:11 PM
Wont complain about the lineup because Im bigger than that. ;)

(WTH is Hatte doing there?!?!?! GOSH!)

Joseph
04-24-2006, 07:17 PM
With TW gone I don't think I can complain about too many of the lineups anymore.

Tommyjohn25
04-24-2006, 07:17 PM
I'm gonna say that I hate the lineup since the one and only time a said I liked it we got shut out 11-0. This is horrible, awful, terrible, inexplicable, inexcuseable and just downright bad. Fire everybody. ;)


















Okay I like it......or do I???.

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 07:17 PM
All hail the Lizard King.

Joseph
04-24-2006, 07:18 PM
Okay I like it. Shhhhhhhh.......

I'm holding you personally responsible for the outcome of this game. :)

redssouth
04-24-2006, 07:18 PM
Got action on the Reds tonight, they are a slight underdog, paying out at +131. Of other gambling interest the Braves are underdogs tonight @Milwaukee paying out +130. I was a little worried about the Reds with the lizard on the mound, but I like the offense to pull us through, also the over/under is 9 runs... seems like a pretty safe bet to me. Go Reds!!

wheels
04-24-2006, 07:19 PM
Just think what would happen if this game were being played in Cincinnati.

This is going to be a high scoring affair.

reds44
04-24-2006, 07:20 PM
Time for the Lizard to kick off his ROY campaign.

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 07:21 PM
BATTER VS. PITCHER (Career)
vs Livan Hernandez
Player AB H HR BB SO AVG
Kearns 7 4 0 1 1 .571
Lopez 10 4 0 1 3 .400
Aurilia 11 4 1 3 3 .364
Encarnacion 3 1 0 0 .333
Womack 43 12 0 3 4 .279=Asta la vista

Complete Batter vs Pitcher

Don't have one for the Lizard King

smith288
04-24-2006, 07:23 PM
I'm gonna say that I hate the lineup since the one and only time a said I liked it we got shut out 11-0. This is horrible, awful, terrible, inexplicable, inexcuseable and just downright bad. Fire everybody. ;)


















edited out for the baseball gods.......

Had to include that didnt you...didnt you? Now we are screwed with a phillips... (badabing! Ill be here all night...try the veil)

Tommyjohn25
04-24-2006, 07:23 PM
I'm holding you personally responsible for the outcome of this game. :)

Oh man! You talked about it! It was supposed to be a secret! All hope is now lost! :p:

Bobcat J
04-24-2006, 07:25 PM
(WTH is Hatte doing there?!?!?! GOSH!)

Maybe Narron thinks Hatteberg with his .463 OBP is like a lead off hitter. He just wants him to set the table for EE and BP. Its like two tops of the order. ;)

vaticanplum
04-24-2006, 07:25 PM
I have a request, because this is just how lazy I am. Can we put the game time in the game threads along with the starting lineups? I pretend to work, and it's just nice when I can waste all of my time on ONE website instead of playing around.

Tommyjohn25
04-24-2006, 07:25 PM
Had to include that didnt you...didnt you? Now we are screwed with a phillips... (badabing! Ill be here all night...try the veil)


:laugh: I just changed the post, to further confuse the baseball Gods. :thumbup:

KronoRed
04-24-2006, 07:27 PM
Still waiting on the perfect lineup ;)

Joseph
04-24-2006, 07:27 PM
:laugh: I just changed the post, to further confuse the baseball Gods. :thumbup:

Fine, anger the gods too, you just don't want this season to be successful at all do you?

Highlifeman21
04-24-2006, 07:28 PM
Got action on the Reds tonight, they are a slight underdog, paying out at +131. Of other gambling interest the Braves are underdogs tonight @Milwaukee paying out +130. I was a little worried about the Reds with the lizard on the mound, but I like the offense to pull us through, also the over/under is 9 runs... seems like a pretty safe bet to me. Go Reds!!


Pete Rose would be proud.

Tommyjohn25
04-24-2006, 07:29 PM
Fine, anger the gods too, you just don't want this season to be successful at all do you?

Nope, I hate the Reds, I hate baseball, and most of all I HATE this lineup!! :D

(Take that Pythagorus)

smith288
04-24-2006, 07:30 PM
:laugh: I just changed the post, to further confuse the baseball Gods. :thumbup:
I edited mine too...the gods surely are confused.

redssouth
04-24-2006, 07:32 PM
Pete Rose would be proud.


He should be, those are solid bets!!!

Highlifeman21
04-24-2006, 07:35 PM
He should be, those are solid bets!!!


Just make sure you call in the bets using the phone in the manager's office in the clubhouse...

Tommyjohn25
04-24-2006, 07:35 PM
I edited mine too...the gods surely are confused.

:laugh: Just checked it out...now THAT is good! :laugh:

bengalred
04-24-2006, 07:52 PM
Let's see what this Ramirez is made of.

TC81190
04-24-2006, 07:59 PM
I edited mine too...the gods surely are confused.

But most importantly of all, TC is very confused.

smith288
04-24-2006, 08:02 PM
But most importantly of all, TC is very confused.

If you are... we have succeeded....

BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

dont ask... its the gods we are tricking. Victory is ours!

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:07 PM
Freel, single

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 08:07 PM
Freel with the basehit

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:09 PM
1-0!!!!

Felipe to 3rd
0 out

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:11 PM
Man we're up 1-0 already .. I love these first inning runs! Go Reds.

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:12 PM
Dunn gets an RBI at least! Whooo .. 2-0!

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:12 PM
RBI groundout for Dunn

2-0

Sham
04-24-2006, 08:12 PM
Hernandez has gained 180 pounds since I last saw him.

Matt700wlw
04-24-2006, 08:12 PM
Dunn gets an RBI at least! Whooo .. 2-0!
Productive outs! :D

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 08:13 PM
I think George & Chris are in love with Livan.

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:13 PM
Yes! Another hit by Kearns!

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:14 PM
AK hammers one into CF for a base hit

KronoRed
04-24-2006, 08:14 PM
That didn't help Dunn's avg with RISP..yet he got an rbi

;)

Raisor
04-24-2006, 08:14 PM
RBI groundout for Dunn

2-0


6-5, 250 is too big to be that scrappy.

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:16 PM
I would say 'were making him work!' but its freaking Livan .... unless the pitch count is 200 he doesnt break a sweat.

Gandalf the Red
04-24-2006, 08:16 PM
I think George & Chris are in love with Livan.

Does Edmonds know? ;)

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:18 PM
Wow. EE got away with one there.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:19 PM
EE doubles in a run! He already has 8 doubles this year.

M2
04-24-2006, 08:19 PM
Wow. EE got away with one there.

One what?

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:19 PM
EE doubles machine!

3-0!

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:19 PM
3-0! Man this is a good inning .. keep it going!!!

Matt700wlw
04-24-2006, 08:19 PM
EE leads the clubs in RBIs now

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 08:20 PM
One what?

Apparently he took Strike 3 but the ump gave him a gift. But, with as inconsistent as the strike zone has been this year, I can't fault him at all.

cincyinco
04-24-2006, 08:20 PM
Great AB by EE!

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:20 PM
One what?

Livan threw a beautiful fastball on the outside corner and the ump called it a ball. It had so much movement on it that it probably fooled the ump.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:20 PM
BP grounds out


3-0

M2
04-24-2006, 08:21 PM
EE doubles in a run! He already has 8 doubles this year.

I asked this in a game thread before, but game threads are imperfect places to get a question answered.

Anyway, what is the the team single-season doubles record? I figure Edwin's got a serious shot at it sometime this decade.

pedro
04-24-2006, 08:21 PM
I'm not sure that was a strike.

bellhead
04-24-2006, 08:21 PM
I can see why Hernandez has such a high era, even Dunn can get a RBI on him without hitting a hr.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:22 PM
M2 predicted Edwin Encarnacion would break the Reds doubles record someday...M2 may have been wrong. He might do it this year.

TeamBoone
04-24-2006, 08:22 PM
Apparently he took Strike 3 but the ump gave him a gift. But, with as inconsistent as the strike zone has been this year, I can't fault him at all.

That pitch was in EXACTLY the same place as the one before it, which he called a ball. I thought it was outside.

Patrick Bateman
04-24-2006, 08:23 PM
M2 predicted Edwin Encarnacion would break the Reds doubles record someday...M2 may have been wrong. He might do it this year.

I think this year is someday.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:23 PM
Alf singles

HermW
04-24-2006, 08:24 PM
Man, this team absolutely scores runs in buckets.

I know they don't have the pitching, and won't get it, but it is exciting the way they score (though excruciating the way they give them up).

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:24 PM
I asked this in a game thread before, but game threads are imperfect places to get a question answered.

Anyway, what is the the team single-season doubles record? I figure Edwin's got a serious shot at it sometime this decade.

Frank Robinson had 51 in 1962, Pete Rose also had 51 in 1978.

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:24 PM
Jeez Dunn; bad play there.

pedro
04-24-2006, 08:24 PM
I asked this in a game thread before, but game threads are imperfect places to get a question answered.

Anyway, what is the the team single-season doubles record? I figure Edwin's got a serious shot at it sometime this decade.

51 -Frank Robinson 1962, Rose 1978

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:25 PM
Fly out
Soriano goes to 2nd
terrible play by Dunn

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:25 PM
I think this year is someday.

You always have a smartarse answer don't ya?

M2
04-24-2006, 08:25 PM
Frank Robinson had 51 in 1962, Pete Rose also had 51 in 1978.

Merci.

Encarnacion's totally busting through that ceiling one of these seasons.

Red in Chicago
04-24-2006, 08:25 PM
why does dunn seem so lazy out there sometimes?

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 08:26 PM
I asked this in a game thread before, but game threads are imperfect places to get a question answered.

Anyway, what is the the team single-season doubles record? I figure Edwin's got a serious shot at it sometime this decade.

I'm sure I'm wrong, but I think Pete Rose has the club record, though I'm not sure of the number.

Edit: Gotten beaten to it.

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 08:26 PM
We need more runs.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
3-1
Dunn costs us a run

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
Dunn giveth, Dunn taketh away.

Few major league outfielders commit gaffes like that...

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
Ramirez stinks, but we already knew that. This guy has no chance of being a good major league pitcher.

Next.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
3-1
Dunn costs us a run

Agreed. That was a very bad pitch by Dunn to Soriano and Johnson.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
Ramirez stinks, but we already knew that. This guy has no chance of being a good major league pitcher.

Next.
Come on now. He is 23.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Shut up.

Classy.

You know what I find funny? You jump all over people for having their own opinions, you tell people to shutup when they say something bad about a player, and yet you still hand out the bashing, mostly in the direction of Dunn.

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Agreed. That was a very bad pitch by Dunn to Soriano and Johnson.


I'm sorry but letting a man tag up on you from first to second on a flyball to LF is not acceptable.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:29 PM
He Gone!
Nice pitch by the Lizard

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Shut up.

Come on now...

Raisor
04-24-2006, 08:29 PM
3-1
Dunn costs us a run


Did the guy get little leauge-ish inside the park "home run", or did a Dunn error cost a base or two leading to a run? What base did the guy that scored start out on?

MasonBuzz3
04-24-2006, 08:31 PM
Did the guy get little leauge-ish inside the park "home run", or did a Dunn error cost a base or two leading to a run? What base did the guy that scored start out on?
soriano lead off with a single, and then tagged up and got to second on a flyball to left. dunn made a lazy throw into second on the play

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:31 PM
Elizardo is pretty bad ... I'm hoping we can survive this game.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:32 PM
Inning over.

Could have been out of that with no runs, but oh well.

3-1

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 08:33 PM
Ton of foul territory, not used to that.

Raisor
04-24-2006, 08:33 PM
soriano lead off with a single, and then tagged up and got to second on a flyball to left. dunn made a lazy throw into second on the play


Thanks.

Then Dunn cost the Reds a base, not a run.

6-4-3
04-24-2006, 08:34 PM
Dunn owes the ballclub a bomb tonight to atone.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:34 PM
WAY to get Rameriz a few runs so he can settle down and know he has a lead :)

Go get em 2nite boys!!!

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 08:34 PM
Elizardo is pretty bad ... I'm hoping we can survive this game.

Might get beat, but I'd bet that most of us will survive.;)

Red in Chicago
04-24-2006, 08:34 PM
"multitasking"....i really hate that commercial:bang:

CrackerJack
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
Get the Oxygen out for Javy!

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
Nice Shot Baby!!!!!!!!!

Red in Chicago
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
quick, get some oxygen:eek:

Raisor
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
Might get beat, but I'd bet that most of us will survive.;)


Krono won't. He's too much of a daredevil.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
Valentin triples. :laugh:

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
Triple for Javy!!!

speed kills!
ha

GOREDSGO32
04-24-2006, 08:35 PM
Triple by Valentin!! YES.

MasonBuzz3
04-24-2006, 08:36 PM
did somebody shoot javy in between second and third?

Raisor
04-24-2006, 08:36 PM
Valentin triples. :laugh:


I'm not THAT gullable.

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 08:36 PM
Javy needs O2

redsfanmia
04-24-2006, 08:36 PM
Wow Soriano makes Dunn look good in the Outfield.

Patrick Bateman
04-24-2006, 08:37 PM
Ramirez stinks, but we already knew that. This guy has no chance of being a good major league pitcher.

Next.
A 23 year pitcher gives up a run in the first (aided by a bad defensive play) and you conclude he has no chance to be a major league pitcher.

It must me wonderful to be so gifted.


What major league team are you scouting for???

Red in Chicago
04-24-2006, 08:38 PM
wow, what is this ump looking at? is he on the reds payroll:cool:

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:38 PM
Freel draws the Reds 100th walk of the season.

Cyclone792
04-24-2006, 08:38 PM
I'm not THAT gullable.

Valentin hit a shot down the left field line that Soriano dove for and missed. Ball rolls to the wall and Valentin slides into third safely.

I had to look at the replay again myself cause I didn't believe it either.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:38 PM
Freel Walks.........

1st and 3rd 1 out Lopez batting

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:38 PM
A 23 year pitcher gives up a run in the first (aided by a bad defensive play) and you conclude he has no chance to be a major league pitcher.

It must me wonderful to be so gifted.


What major league team are you scouting for???
thank you

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:39 PM
did somebody shoot javy in between second and third?

Remember that scene from "Angels in the Outfield" when that Angel smacks the really fat dude on the butt to get him moving?

That's what I envision with Javy stretching out a triple.

:laugh:

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:39 PM
A 23 year pitcher gives up a run in the first (aided by a bad defensive play) and you conclude he has no chance to be a major league pitcher.

It must me wonderful to be so gifted.


What major league team are you scouting for???

No. His stuff brings me to the conclusion that he won't be a good major league pitcher.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:40 PM
These Nats announcers are MASSIVE homers.

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 08:40 PM
Felo is on fire!

CrackerJack
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Livan not lookin' so hot in the city tonight.

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
No. His stuff brings me to the conclusion that he won't be a good major league pitcher.

I'll take what I've seen out of El Lizard so far over D. Williams seven days a week and twice on Sunday.

EDIT: Not that that is saying a heck of a lot. :laugh:

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
wooooowhooooooo

Lopez Singles.

1st and 3rd one out

4-1 Reds!!!

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Felipe singles
4-1
Freel to 3rd

Red in Chicago
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
i think jose could have caught that ball, eh?

MasonBuzz3
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Livan is getting squeezed here, tiny zone tonight

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dunner!!

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Thought Guillen was gonna get to that one.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Nats Announcers Complaining saying the UMP is pinching Hernandez and not calling striks lol


Dunn GIDP Head to the bottem half reds up 4-1

Reds Nd2
04-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Livan not lookin' so hot in the city tonight.

Danger in the shape of somethin' wild
Stranger dressed in black, she's a hungry child
No one knows who she is or what her name is
I don't know where she came from or what her game is

(Hot child in the city)
(Hot child in the city)
(Runnin' wild and lookin' pretty)
(Hot child in the city)

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Dunn sigh.

Not such a good start for him today.

I am sure he will make up for it though

max venable
04-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Isn't it nice to have FeLo to plug into the lineup at SS everyday and not have to worry about it?

Dude is solid. I miss Barry...but FeLo makes life without Barry A LOT better!

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Bad atbat there by Dunner. Got ahead 2-0, then swung at and tried to pull a pitch on the outside corner and ended up grounding into a DP. Nice pitch by Livan.

MasonBuzz3
04-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Nats Announcers Complaining saying the UMP is pinching Hernandez and not calling striks lol


Dunn GIDP Head to the bottem half reds up 4-1
i would tend to agree with the announcers on that. if livan is missing, he is not missing by much. might see some fireworks out of frank tonight

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Nice to get that run back......

But we coulda hurt them BAD THERE!!!!!!

Hernandez has throw 50 Pitches already!

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
i would tend to agree with the announcers on that. if livan is missing, he is not missing by much. might see some fireworks out of frank tonight
Elizardo will be getting the same zone.

Highlifeman21
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
3-1
Dunn costs us a run


1. RFK is huge and Dunn was a step or two inside the WT.

2. Lemme see you throw out a speedy Soriano at 2B off your backfoot as you're making a play on a deep flyout.

3. At most, Dunn cost the Reds 1 base, since Soriano advanced to 2B, he didn't score on that play.

I can't wait to read what you have to say about Dunn ending the inning with the DP.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
i would tend to agree with the announcers on that. if livan is missing, he is not missing by much. might see some fireworks out of frank tonight

Yea there have been a few VERY close.

Just dunno.......we'll see.

pedro
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
I think the Nationals announcers are whining too much. Those pitches aren't all strikes. They want the ump to give Livan a couple of inches on either side IMO.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:45 PM
1. RFK is huge and Dunn was a step or two inside the WT.

2. Lemme see you throw out a speedy Soriano at 2B off your backfoot as you're making a play on a deep flyout.

3. At most, Dunn cost the Reds 1 base, since Soriano advanced to 2B, he didn't score on that play.

I can't wait to read what you have to say about Dunn ending the inning with the DP.
I said not a good start, but he will make up for it.

Puffy
04-24-2006, 08:45 PM
A 23 year pitcher gives up a run in the first (aided by a bad defensive play) and you conclude he has no chance to be a major league pitcher.

It must me wonderful to be so gifted.


What major league team are you scouting for???

Maybe he is including Ramirez's time with the Phils, and his stints last year with the Reds? Ya think? You might be right, he is judging a young pitcher, but its not one inning as you say.

Patrick Bateman
04-24-2006, 08:45 PM
No. His stuff brings me to the conclusion that he won't be a good major league pitcher.

It must be your assessment of his stuff, because major league scouts have assessed his stuff as being possibly good enough to be a good major league pitcher.

He has average stuff, but above average control.

With experience, he could be a viable back of the rotation starter.

There are many, many good major league starters with average stuff.

Location. Location. Location.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Church Flies out to Dunn

one down

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Fly out
1 down

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Clayton Flies out to Kearns



2 Dunn

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Fly out
2 down

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
I think the Nationals are whining too much. Those pitches aren't all strikes. They want the ump to give Livan a couple of inches on either side IMO.

This is the kind of strikezone I like. Most umps call pitches off the plate a strike as long as the pitch is within 4-6 inches of the plate. I hate that; the plate is there for a reason. I like this guy.

Good inning by Ramirez.

CrackerJack
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Danger in the shape of somethin' wild
Stranger dressed in black, she's a hungry child
No one knows who she is or what her name is
I don't know where she came from or what her game is

(Hot child in the city)
(Hot child in the city)
(Runnin' wild and lookin' pretty)
(Hot child in the city)

How do you like him so far?
How do you like his show?
How do you like the way he rocks and the way he rolls?

How do you like his image?
How do you like his style?
How do you like the way he looks and the way he smiles?

The Kid is hot tonight
whoa so hot tonight
but where will he be tomorrow?

The kid, is hot tonight
whoa so hot tonight
but where will he be tomorrow

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Ramirez > Williams

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Inning ovah
tough inning
5 in a row by the Lizard

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Patterson, grounds out to Rameriz

5 in a row retired for Rameriz!!!

oneupper
04-24-2006, 08:48 PM
Nats announcers just said Ortiz will pitch Wednesday instead of Patterson.

Is that true? :D

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 08:48 PM
The last pitch was the same ball the umpire called a ball for Hernandez. He's not getting squeezed.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:48 PM
26 Pitches for Rameriz through 2 :)

CrackerJack
04-24-2006, 08:48 PM
LH is definitely missing the zone on most of those calls. Reds just aren't fishing up to this point.

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Nats announcers just said Ortiz will pitch Wednesday instead of Patterson.

Is that true? :D


Yes, I think I saw that posted on Marc's blog earlier today.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:49 PM
You know if the Lizard goes 7 IP + 2nite and gets a Win

Do you yank Williams outta the rotation when Milton comes back????

hmmmmmmm

Patrick Bateman
04-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Just announced that Patterson is being held back a day, and will face the Cards on Friday.

So, we get Ramon Ortiz instead.

We just can't catch a break....

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Yes, I think I saw that posted on Marc's blog earlier today.

That's good news

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:50 PM
WTF, Nationals announcers just said Kearns played at UK?!?!?! LOL

JohhnyBench1001
04-24-2006, 08:51 PM
I know I'm a little late to complain about the lineup, but this is pretty much an everyday thing. Why does Narron bat EE 6th??........and behind SH??? What more does the kid have to do to get the respect of being able to hit 5th
and give Kearns a little bit of protection.....jmho.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:51 PM
Kearns Fans!!!!!!

1 Out

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:51 PM
K for Kearms

Gandalf the Red
04-24-2006, 08:51 PM
You know if the Lizard goes 7 IP + 2nite and gets a Win

Do you yank Williams outta the rotation when Milton comes back????

hmmmmmmm

I wish we'd disown Williams altogether and go with Belisle and Lizard til Milton comes back.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 08:51 PM
It must be your assessment of his stuff, because major league scouts have assessed his stuff as being possibly good enough to be a good major league pitcher.

He has average stuff, but above average control.

With experience, he could be a viable back of the rotation starter.

There are many, many good major league starters with average stuff.

Location. Location. Location.

The guy gave up 150 hits in 131 innings in Louisville last year. He has allowed a hit per inning throughout his minor league career. He's too hittable.

I highly doubt he will ever amount to much in the majors.

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 08:52 PM
I know I'm a little late to complain about the lineup, but this is pretty much an everyday thing. Why does Narron bat EE 6th??........and behind SH??? What more does the kid have to do to get the respect of being able to hit 5th
and give Kearns a little bit of protection.....jmho.

This is actually one of the times I haven't really had any complaints w/ the lineup.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:52 PM
Kearns did play at UK

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:52 PM
You know if the Lizard goes 7 IP + 2nite and gets a Win

Do you yank Williams outta the rotation when Milton comes back????

hmmmmmmm
Milton won't be back for 3 weeks.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:52 PM
pop out
2 down

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 08:53 PM
I know I'm a little late to complain about the lineup, but this is pretty much an everyday thing. Why does Narron bat EE 6th??........and behind SH??? What more does the kid have to do to get the respect of being able to hit 5th
and give Kearns a little bit of protection.....jmho.

He's in his first season as an everyday regular, and he's producing from the spot. I'm very comfortable where he's at right now -- opportunity without a lot of the pressure.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:53 PM
Was Babe sleeping?

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:54 PM
inning over

JohhnyBench1001
04-24-2006, 08:54 PM
This is actually one of the times I haven't really had any complaints w/ the lineup.


I'm not complaining about tonight's lineup per se, but I just don't know why we keep hitting EE in the 6th hole in general, and are backing up our big bats with the Aurillas and Hattiburghs of the world.

Puffy
04-24-2006, 08:54 PM
Kearns did play at UK

No - Kearns was drafted out of High School - so unless his HS has been renamed he did not play at UK

Cant Touch This
04-24-2006, 08:54 PM
Personally, I think the Nats announcers have a legit beef. Maybe not all of those pitches should be called strikes, but there have been a couple that I thought for certain would be called strikes. For sure, there have been worse pitches called strikes that I've seen this year.

I also agree that if he isn't calling the corners, both pitchers are in for a long day. Livan has to serve meatballs. At least the lizard seems to have some more pop on his pitches. Nats got lucky with Dunn's GIDP.

jesusfan
04-24-2006, 08:55 PM
Multi-tasking!!!

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 08:55 PM
Multi-tasking!

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:55 PM
Well he didnt PLAY at UK

But Attended UK for classes

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 08:55 PM
Beat me to it Jesusfan

jesusfan
04-24-2006, 08:56 PM
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO??? lol

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 08:56 PM
Livan was 4-10 coming into this game.

That's like 4 seasons worth of base hits for Aaron Harang.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:56 PM
hahahaha mlb.tv pulled the plug on the nats announcers and marty and steve on.

He Gone!
1 down

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:56 PM
Rameriz sits down Hernandez

K #2

1 down

Patrick Bateman
04-24-2006, 08:56 PM
I highly doubt he will ever amount to much in the majors.

You're starting to soften.

You've gone from "no chance" to "highly doubtful".

By the end of the game you'll be giving him a "rats chance" to make it.

Baby steps.

:)

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:57 PM
Soriano Flys out to Freel

2 Down

7 in a row Down for Lizard

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:57 PM
2 down

Cant Touch This
04-24-2006, 08:57 PM
hahahaha mlb.tv pulled the plug on the nats announcers and marty and steve on.

He Gone!
1 down

Still getting the nats guys on EI

WMR
04-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Per Wikipedia:

Austin Kearns (born May 20, 1980 in Lexington, Kentucky) is a Major League Baseball player who plays right field for the Cincinnati Reds. After a stellar career at Lafayette High School, he was the top player taken overall in the 1998 draft by the Cincinnati Reds. Although drafted as a pitcher, he has played outfield both in the minor and major leagues. After just three seasons in the minors, he made his mlb debut was on April 17, 2002 and as of 2005 is still in the teams starting rotation. He throws and bats right-handed and did not attend college. His 2005 salary was $930,000.



Not saying you're wrong, but where'd you hear that AK ever took classes at UK?

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 08:58 PM
All hail the Lizard King.

reds44
04-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Another quick inning
8 in a row by the Lizard!

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Fly out to DUNN

1. 2 . 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


36 pitches for Lizard :) 8 down in a row ;)

redhawkfish
04-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Easy inning for Ramirez.:)

RBA
04-24-2006, 08:59 PM
hahahaha mlb.tv pulled the plug on the nats announcers and marty and steve on.

He Gone!
1 down

I think they got tired of the Nats pbp team whine about the balls and strike calls. ;)

Patrick Bateman
04-24-2006, 08:59 PM
I know I'm a little late to complain about the lineup, but this is pretty much an everyday thing. Why does Narron bat EE 6th??........and behind SH??? What more does the kid have to do to get the respect of being able to hit 5th
and give Kearns a little bit of protection.....jmho.

Hatteberg has been OBA over .450 this season, so he's getting on base for EE and BP.

If teams want to walk Dunn and Kearns to get to Hatteberg, I say let them do it. Baserunners means big offense. It's no coincidence that we are walking and scoring more than ever.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 08:59 PM
Lizard LOOKING SHARP!!!!

1 ground out 6 Fly outs.

But most of the fly outs have been right to OF's

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:00 PM
Lets go PHILLIPS

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jesusfan
04-24-2006, 09:00 PM
shoot... almost another one for Phillips

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 09:01 PM
Stupid, giant ballpark

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:01 PM
BP Takes the 2-0 Pitch to the Warning TRACK!!!!!

1 out

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:02 PM
Valentin takes the first pitch just past the SS for a Single

2-2 now with a 3B and a single

Redlegs23
04-24-2006, 09:02 PM
Javy decides to take it easy and stick with a base hit this time. Triples are too much work.

WMR
04-24-2006, 09:02 PM
Jeez the Nationals announcers whine more than my little sister.

redhawkfish
04-24-2006, 09:02 PM
Valentin 2 for 2. I don't think we'll see another triple for a while from him.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:02 PM
Rameriz showing bunt!!!!

Pulls it back 1-0 count

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:03 PM
Lizard grounds into Fielders choice

Freel up 2 outs Lizard on 1st

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:03 PM
They said thats only his 2nd 3B in his Career for VAlentin

pedro
04-24-2006, 09:04 PM
Jeez the Nationals announcers whine more than my little sister.

they're bad.

reds44
04-24-2006, 09:04 PM
Inning over.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:04 PM
Freel Flies out to RF.

Headed to the bottem still have the 4-1 lead

GAC
04-24-2006, 09:05 PM
4-1 huh?


Rameriz looking pretty good so far.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:05 PM
Stupid, giant ballpark

That ball is gone in most ballparks, unfortunately it's just a long flyout in RFK.

RBA
04-24-2006, 09:06 PM
Cubbies down 3-0, bot 3 to the Fish. Game is on ESPN, if you are interested.

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 09:06 PM
they're bad.

It is getting old. I actually agreed with them the first couple times they complained. But the umpire has been consistent. Now anything remotely close gets a complaint out of them.

MWM
04-24-2006, 09:06 PM
they're bad.

Seriously. They don't let up do they?

I think most announcers I heard aren't very good, but these guys are awful.

jhiller21
04-24-2006, 09:06 PM
Per Wikipedia:

and as of 2005 is still in the teams starting rotation.

Does this mean Kearns can replace Williams? :laugh:

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:06 PM
Hernandez just walked off Jawing with the UMP.

Niether are very happy right now.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:08 PM
Cubbies down 3-0, bot 3 to the Fish. Game is on ESPN, if you are interested.

Zambrano is getting hammered again. That's makes three bad starts out of five for him. Has Dusty found a way to ruin another arm? ;)

cumberlandreds
04-24-2006, 09:08 PM
they're bad.

Is it the Nats TV announcers? If it is then Paciorek is a big time homer. I can't stand him now or when he was with the White Sox or Braves. I can't watch these games with the Nats. Even though I live in the DC suburbs,DISH doesn't carry MASN and I'm blacked out of FSN Ohio and EI. I can only see about 30 of the Nats games becasue of this this season. Only in MLB can you not watch the closest team to you because of their archaic black out rules. I'm going Wednesday so I can the Reds then,live and in person!

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:08 PM
Nick Johnson grounds out to FeLo

one down.

reds44
04-24-2006, 09:08 PM
9 in a row!!

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:09 PM
I got the reds on Mlb.tv and the cubbies/marlins on the TV lol


man nice pitch by lizard there

Ground out to Edwin

2 Down :)

reds44
04-24-2006, 09:09 PM
10 in a row!

MWM
04-24-2006, 09:09 PM
Elizardo reminds me a lot of Jose Acevedo with how he throws.

WMR
04-24-2006, 09:10 PM
they're bad.

Grande and Welsh are pretty bad, but hearing some of these away broadcasts... it'd be really interesting if an impartial committee could rank the announcers in MLB from best to worst.


Nationals announcer:
"huhuhuhuh, I'd be telling the ump, if you had one more eye, you'd be a cyclops."

Who's writing this guys joke, Banya??

http://www.jdmg.com/files/sigs/seinfeld/banya.gif
"Gold, Jerry, Gold!"

MWM
04-24-2006, 09:10 PM
Is it me or is Felo playing much better defensively this year? He seems to be getting to more balls than in the past.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:11 PM
3rd pitch ground out

to FeLo

another 1. 2 . 3 inning for the LIZARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

11 down in a row :)

reds44
04-24-2006, 09:11 PM
11 in a row!!!

3 straight 1-2-3 inning's for the Lizard!

CTA513
04-24-2006, 09:12 PM
Zambrano is getting hammered again. That's makes three bad starts out of five for him. Has Dusty found a way to ruin another arm? ;)

Zambrano struck out and then broke his bat over his knee. :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:12 PM
Is it me or is Felo playing much better defensively this year? He seems to be getting to more balls than in the past.

Another year removed from that horrible ankle injury in 2003. Might be getting some of that range back now.

GAC
04-24-2006, 09:12 PM
Someone needs to have a talk with MILTON's replacement.... he's inducing too many groundballs. ;)

Cant Touch This
04-24-2006, 09:12 PM
As if the 4-1 lead and The Lizard's early performance aren't reason enough to feel gleeful, my shipment of ten 15-oz. cans of Skyline just arrived in the mail. Three-way tonight! And I may have Skyline, too.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:12 PM
4 ground outs
6 fly outs
2 strike outs for Rameriz

harangatang
04-24-2006, 09:13 PM
3 ground outs in a row, AWESOME

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 09:13 PM
Seriously. They don't let up do they?

I think most announcers I heard aren't very good, but these guys are awful.

It must be a DC thing -- I thought the Redskins radio broadcasts were absolutely unlistenable when I was there too. It was like a 3 man cocktail party with an occasional comment thrown in about the game. Frank Herzog was the PBP man, and there's a reason that dude is unemployed right now. I think Sonny Jergenson is their "Joe" -- someone the locals get and love and everyone else just sits and wonders "The hell...?"

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:13 PM
FeLo Bunts foul on the base hit bunt attempt

1-2 pitch coming.

Aronchis
04-24-2006, 09:14 PM
The Cubs as a organization may be on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

Strikes Out Looking
04-24-2006, 09:14 PM
Nats announcers are bad, but they are better than last year when Ron Darling was the tv analyst. The Nats TV guys got hired in February and didn't do any spring training games, so they know about as much about the Nats as say for example, Jim Bowden.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:14 PM
Lopez watches STrike 3.

one down.

Dunner up 0-2 GIDP last AB

Gainesville Red
04-24-2006, 09:15 PM
Stupid, giant ballpark pt. 2

GAC
04-24-2006, 09:15 PM
Dunn - a lonnnnnnng out to LF-Center field 390 ft.

cumberlandreds
04-24-2006, 09:15 PM
It must be a DC thing -- I thought the Redskins radio broadcasts were absolutely unlistenable when I was there too. It was like a 3 man cocktail party with an occasional comment thrown in about the game. Frank Herzog was the PBP man, and there's a reason that dude is unemployed right now. I think Sonny Jergenson is their "Joe" -- someone the locals get and love and everyone else just sits and wonders "The hell...?"

Herzog is a fill in for WTOPNEWS when one of their regulars is on vacation. I hear him sometimes going to and coming from work. You are right they are unlistenable.

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Dunn still slumping. I would give him Saturday off vs Andy Pettitte.

GAC
04-24-2006, 09:16 PM
This ump must want to get home! :lol:

Highlifeman21
04-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Is it me or is Felo playing much better defensively this year? He seems to be getting to more balls than in the past.


You're seeing the same effect for FeLo this year that Jeter experienced once ARod became the everyday 3B. FeLo can concentrate more on balls to his left, b/c he knows he'll get help to his right from EE. EE has plenty of range, which easily makes up for FeLo's inability to go into the hole.

WMR
04-24-2006, 09:17 PM
Jeez these Nats announcers criticizing the umps standing between the hitter and the catcher....

do they really know that little about baseball?

are they really that stupid????

Speaking from firsthand experience, you can't see things NEARLY as well if you try to stand directly behind the catcher.'

What a dumb, dumb criticism.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:17 PM
sorry had to step away

Dunn flew out

Kearns up

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:17 PM
Kearns K's

Lizarrd coming back out to the mound :)

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:18 PM
Kearns went after ball 4.

GAC
04-24-2006, 09:18 PM
Chats Open

KronoRed
04-24-2006, 09:19 PM
Bring the fences in.

Like anyone would notice in the OF

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:20 PM
Broken bat Ground out by Church to Rameriz.. to 1B

1 down

reds44
04-24-2006, 09:20 PM
12

WMR
04-24-2006, 09:21 PM
Broken bat Ground out by Church to Rameriz.. to 1B

1 down

That bat wasn't 'broken,' it was SHATTERED EMPHATICALLY. :)

reds44
04-24-2006, 09:21 PM
D'oh

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:21 PM
Kearns ALMOST ran that down

Had a LONG way to go... hit him in the glove and pops out.

1 out 2B by Clayton

Caveat Emperor
04-24-2006, 09:22 PM
Bring the fences in.

Like anyone would notice in the OF

Attach it as a ryder amendment with a bill to increase congressional pay -- that'll make it happen.

flyer85
04-24-2006, 09:22 PM
That was clearly an error

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:22 PM
Play ruled a 2B

nice try Kearns

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2006, 09:23 PM
Chris Welsh just said that you have to respect Royce Clayton's power and play your outfielders deep. Royce Clayton - he of the career .369 slugging %.

KronoRed
04-24-2006, 09:24 PM
Chris Welsh just said that you have to respect Royce Clayton's power and play your outfielders deep. Royce Clayton - he of the career .369 slugging %.
Maybe he means the power of his cool hair do.

GridironGrace
04-24-2006, 09:24 PM
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Phillips Picks off a line drive and the Flip to 2B was JUUUUUUUUUUUUSTTTTTTTTTT a bit late.

2 down

Fullboat
04-24-2006, 09:24 PM
I say give the Lizard another start!!