PDA

View Full Version : Reds Record/Golf Score Comparison



Ringo
04-27-2006, 04:07 PM
Some of you will probably think this is totally idiotic and useless, so I apologize in advance for wasting your time if you're not interested. A year or two ago, Edskin posted about how he breaks the season up into 10 game segments, which I had always done as well. But I'm sort of a golf nut, so I took it a step further.

There are 162 games in a season, and 18 holes on a golf course. If you divide 162 by 18, you get 9. That means that every nine games the Reds play is the equivalent of one hole of golf. Next, we need to establish par. If you watch a tournament, even par isn't going to be good enough to win, but it will probably have you on the leaderboard on Sunday and you'll probably cash a nice check. In baseball terms, I figured that number to be about 90 wins...not going to be enough to make the playoffs, but probably going to have you in the chase through most of September and probably keep your fans relatively happy. So, if 90 wins is "par", we just divide 90 by our 18 holes and get 5. That means if the Reds go 5-4 over a nine game stretch, they get a par.

After 9 games this year, the Reds were 6-3. Since 5-4 is a par, 6 wins is a birdie. Over the next 9, we went 5-4. So, birdie on #1, par on #2. So far, we're 4-0 on the 3rd hole, so birdie is certainly within reach. I figure five or six under (95 or 96 wins) may be enough to get a wild card, so two under through three holes would be phenomenal. More than anything, I like breaking the season down like this because it keeps me from getting too upset during losing streaks (or too excited during winning streaks).

Again, I apologize to anyone who thinks this is totally stupid. If anyone actually likes it, I'll come back every 9 games and update our scorecard. I keep one posted on my cubicle at work so I can track it all year. Some of the guys I work with are golfers too and have started referring to Reds games in golf terminology. We have fun with it, so I thought I'd share with the biggest group of Reds fans I know.

ochre
04-27-2006, 04:10 PM
That's definitely an interesting way to look at it :).

My ADD would kick in around the 4th or 5th game and keep me from being able to keep track though...

RedsFan75
04-27-2006, 04:13 PM
:D My ADD kicked in before I finished reading Ringo's post. Golf is not one of my interests, and as soon as you started talking Scoring, I was done. :D

rdiersin
04-27-2006, 04:13 PM
If anyone actually likes it, I'll come back every 9 games and update our scorecard. I keep one posted on my cubicle at work so I can track it all year. Some of the guys I work with are golfers too and have started referring to Reds games in golf terminology. We have fun with it, so I thought I'd share with the biggest group of Reds fans I know.

I hope that you do Ringo. I think it is a fun way to look at things. Thanks for sharing it.

KronoRed
04-27-2006, 04:14 PM
I'd take a par season.

:)

Heath
04-27-2006, 04:17 PM
:D My ADD kicked in ..... and as soon as you started talking Scoring, I was done. :D

That's all I read. If you have scoring problems, see Raisor.

Marc D
04-27-2006, 04:18 PM
Looking at the schedule it seems May would be a couple of Par 3's but June's a couple of 600 yd Par 5's with the wind in our face and the liquor kicking in.

Not good news when the golfer in question is a high handicapper.:)

RedsManRick
04-27-2006, 04:32 PM
Thanks for posting about that interesting idea. Of course, I know our short game isn't really great so we should focus on getting to those greens in regulation. A few shanked balls in the rough and we could be talking double bogeys.

Now we just need to take it a step too far and assign a club to each player... I'll nominate Rich Aurilia as the sand wedge. Useful in some situations, particulary when you really need him to come through, but if you have to rely on him on a regular basis, that's a bad sign.

MWM
04-27-2006, 04:34 PM
What's the Reds' handicap? I wish they were playing net record because the REds might win the world series that way. :evil:

Caveat Emperor
04-27-2006, 05:08 PM
So if the Reds have to go 5-4 to make par on a 9 game stretch, is back-to-back series with the Astros and the Cardinals considered a "Tiger Proofed" hole?

Roy Oswalt is the wicked dog-leg that the Reds keep slicing into the woods on, apparently.

BoydsOfSummer
04-27-2006, 05:41 PM
What's the Reds' handicap? I wish they were playing net record because the REds might win the world series that way. :evil:

Lindner and O'Brien. Oh you mean now?

Marc D
04-27-2006, 05:52 PM
Best baseball reference I've heard on a golf course in a long time(kind of offensive but funny):

Golfer #1: Tee shot into the woods at a 45 degree angle not 50 yds from him

Golfer #2: "That was a Thurman Munson"

#1: "A Thurman Munson?"

#2: " A dead yank"

Best part was the punchline was deliverd in the middle of Golfer #3's backswing.

Heath
04-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Best baseball reference I've heard on a golf course in a long time(kind of offensive but funny):

Golfer #1: Tee shot into the woods at a 45 degree angle not 50 yds from him

Golfer #2: "That was a Thurman Munson"

#1: "A Thurman Munson?"

#2: " A dead yank"

Best part was the punchline was deliverd in the middle of Golfer #3's backswing.

That would be funnier, if it wasn't so tragic.

Marc D
04-27-2006, 06:34 PM
That would be funnier, if it wasn't so tragic.

Yeah it was one of those where you say how awful it is as you laugh. The guy who used it was a Red Sox fan so blame him I guess. ;)

oneupper
04-27-2006, 07:23 PM
This is definitely an off-day post. Good job. :) ;)

creek14
04-28-2006, 05:14 PM
I'd take a par season.

:)
I want an Eagle.

KronoRed
04-28-2006, 05:17 PM
Hole in one = 162-0? :D

redsrule2500
04-29-2006, 01:07 AM
if u read that corrrectly a hole in one would probably be 9-0, since it's pretty rare but can happen. :)
Wouldn't it be...

0-9 = +5
1-8 = +4
2-7 = +3
3-6 = double bogey
4-5 = bogey
5-4 = par
6-3 = birdie
7-2 = eagle
8-1 = albatross/double eagle
9-0 = Hole in One

Yeah....This is kinda cool. Or should the hole in one and albatross be switched, because hole in one is more common, however less strokes....the possibilities....

bucksfan
04-29-2006, 10:29 PM
I kinda like it as well. I'm not really a golfer, but I see how you could get into looking at it this way!

Edskin
04-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Bravo! :)

smith288
05-01-2006, 12:16 PM
At what point do I toss my clubs into the lake and just drive the cart around the course?

Ringo
05-01-2006, 01:58 PM
We're still two games away from officially finishing the 3rd hole, but at 6-1 thus far, we've already assured ourselves a birdie at worst. If we win one of these next two with St. Louis, it'd be our first eagle in a couple of years!

TOBTTReds
05-02-2006, 12:20 AM
Eags guarenteed, possible double-eagle

RedsRock
05-02-2006, 03:26 PM
Double eagle!! 8-1 on 3rd hole, currently -4 through 3 holes. Even Tiger would be thrilled with that kind of start.

Ringo
05-02-2006, 03:32 PM
My goal was to get to five under for the season....didn't expect to be 80% of the way there thru only three holes! Holy smokes!

The 4th hole sets up as 2 in Colorado, 3 in Arizona, 3 back home vs. Washington, and then the opener of the Philly series at home. I'll go ahead and predict 6-3 for another birdie.

ochre
05-02-2006, 03:56 PM
My goal was to get to five under for the season....didn't expect to be 80% of the way there thru only three holes! Holy smokes!

The 4th hole sets up as 2 in Colorado, 3 in Arizona, 3 back home vs. Washington, and then the opener of the Philly series at home. I'll go ahead and predict 6-3 for another birdie.
There'll be bogeys down the road :)

RedsManRick
05-02-2006, 04:00 PM
My goal was to get to five under for the season....didn't expect to be 80% of the way there thru only three holes! Holy smokes!

The 4th hole sets up as 2 in Colorado, 3 in Arizona, 3 back home vs. Washington, and then the opener of the Philly series at home. I'll go ahead and predict 6-3 for another birdie.

Looks like a straight Par 5 with a water hazard just past the tee and a nice bunker on the right side of the fairway about 250 yards out.

Ringo
05-12-2006, 03:36 PM
Final game of the 4th hole tonight, currently standing 4-4. A win means par, a loss would give us our first bogey.

Joseph
05-18-2006, 09:50 AM
So we have to win the next five for par correct?

Ringo
05-23-2006, 11:59 AM
Last night's win "salvages" a double bogey on #5. Two straight bad holes, but still one under overall.

Sixth hole is the remaining two with Milwaukee, then 3 with Arizona, 3 at Chicago, and then the first game at Houston.

oneupper
05-23-2006, 12:54 PM
How about a hole by hole summary Ringo?

Hole 1 -- W-L X over Under Par...etc?
Hole 2...etc.

RedsRock
05-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Hole 1 - Birdie (6-3) -1
Hole 2 - Par (5-4) -1
Hole 3 - Double Eagle (8-1) -4
Hole 4 - Bogey (4-5) -3
Hole 5 - Double Bogey (3-6) -1

If we play to par on the last 13 holes (65-52), we finish at 91-71. Keep hope alive!!!

Ringo
06-05-2006, 09:42 AM
Few days late, but we did go 4-5 on the 6th hole for a bogey. Third straight hole of bogey or worse. Now even par overall. Remember, par is 90 wins, so we're still OK.

Hole #7 is two at Houston, three at St. Louis, and four back home against Chicago.

Already won the first two against Houston, so 4-3 the rest of the way for birdie.

Ringo
06-08-2006, 01:47 PM
Already 5-0 on the hole, which guarantees par. Take three of four from the Cubs this weekend, and we've got our second double eagle of the season.

smith288
06-08-2006, 02:24 PM
Solid.

Ringo
06-12-2006, 09:09 AM
Three straight losses to the Cubs, but still a birdie on #7 to move back to one under overall. Eighth hole will be 3 with Milwaukee, 3 with the White Sox, and 3 at the Mets.

For what it's worth, the Astros, Brewers, and Pirates all made bogey on the 7th. The Cubs need to win their next game for par, and the Cards need to win their next for bogey. All in all, the entire division may bogey the 7th except for us.

1st: 6-3 Birdie -1
2nd: 5-4 Par -1
3rd: 8-1 Dbl. Eagle -4
4th: 4-5 Bogey -3
5th: 3-6 Dbl. Bogey -1
6th: 4-5 Bogey E
7th: 6-3 Birdie -1

RedsManRick
06-12-2006, 10:40 AM
I love how well this format consicely shows the ups and downs of the season. I know it could be chopped up a 1000 different ways. But this one appeals the sports sensibility in all of us.

Ringo
06-23-2006, 09:12 AM
The win on Wednesday officially concluded the 8th hole. Unfortunately, that win was only the 3rd of the hole, resulting in double bogey. That brings the total score to +1, the first time all season we've been over par.

Ninth hole started with last night's loss, and continues through Cleveland, then back home for 3 with KC and the first 2 of the Cleveland series. Need to win 6 of the next 8 to make birdie and get back to even par as we make the turn.

smith288
06-23-2006, 01:17 PM
And there aint any mulligans.

membengal
06-23-2006, 02:40 PM
Echo others herein...this has been an oddly enjoyable way to snapshot the season. Thanks.

Ringo
07-05-2006, 09:44 AM
Took a little vacation over the holiday, so this is a few games late. Saturday's loss to the Indians concluded the 9th hole with a par, which leaves us one over at the turn. The 9th hole was apparently a tricky one. Milwaukee made par with us, but everyone else in the division made a triple bogey (except Pittsburgh, who made a quadruple bogey). Although we're two games back now, we made the turn tied for first and leading the wild card. I think all would agree that's far better than most would have expected.

The bad news is that we're already 0-3 on the 10th hole. One more in Milwaukee tonight, then four in Atlanta, and one back home with Colorado after the All Star Break to finish this hole. We have to win 5 of 6 to save par...tall order the way things have been going of late.

Ringo
07-19-2006, 10:11 AM
Way late with this one. The 10th hole took a break for the All Star game and I sort of forgot about it. Probably because it was so bad!

Anyway, we went 2-7 on the 10th hole, for triple bogey. That dropped us to +4 for the round.

The 11th hole is already well under way. We won the first three against Colorado before dropping last night's game to the Mets. That leaves five more games: two vs. Mets, three vs. Brewers. Winning three of the five would give us a birdie...two of five a par.

Joseph
07-19-2006, 11:39 AM
Falling off the pace here. Stil a great thread Ringo.

Ringo
07-24-2006, 08:40 AM
Yesterday's loss still left us with birdie on #11...our first birdie since #7. Here's the full scorecard to date:

1. 6-3 Birdie -1
2. 5-4 Par -1
3. 8-1 Dbl. Eagle -4
4. 4-5 Bogey -3
5. 3-6 Dbl. Bogey -1
6. 4-5 Bogey E
7. 6-3 Birdie -1
8. 3-6 Dbl. Bogey +1
9. 5-4 Par +1

Front Nine Total: 44-37, one over par.

10. 2-7 Trpl. Bogey +4
11. 6-3 Birdie +3

Par the final 7 holes for 87 wins. Will that be enough? I think so. Before we par the next seven though, we need to par the NEXT one! I don't want to get ahead of myself. 12th hole is 3 in Houston, 3 in Milwaukee, and 3 back home against the Dodgers.

Ringo
08-07-2006, 01:46 PM
Sorry, I'm getting bad about this lately. I rarely look at the computer over the weekends, so most of my posting comes during work hours (don't tell).

Anyway, the sweep to the Dodgers left us at 3-6 on the 12th hole, a double bogey. The worst part is we started 3-1! I guess that's like hitting the drive right down the middle and then pulling your approach into the pond next to the green....and then three putting. Bad, bad, bad.

That double bogey moves us to +5 on the season. Now need to par the final 6 holes to finish with 85 wins.

13th hole is off to a 2-1 start thus far. St. Louis in town for four games starting tonight, and then the first two games at Philly will finish the hole. Time to get it going. We need a birdie here!

MaineRed
08-07-2006, 03:16 PM
We've reached Amen Corner.

Great thread!

Ringo
08-14-2006, 01:25 PM
Saturday's win saved a par on #13, which leaves us five over for the round. If we par the final five holes, we get 85 wins. The question is, will that be enough? I actually think it will, but I'd still like to see a couple of birdies coming down the stretch.

Back Nine so far:
10. 2-7 Triple Bogey
11. 6-3 Birdie
12. 3-6 Double Bogey
13. 5-4 Par

A bit of a roller coaster! Yesterday's win gets us off the tee nicely on #14. Let's see what we can do with the rest of the hole. Three at St. Louis, three at home vs. Pittsburgh, and the opener of the home series with Houston. Will get Harang and Arroyo to throw 4 of the 8 games. I'm going to predict a birdie that gives us first place in the division.

Ringo
08-22-2006, 09:34 PM
Not quite final, but I feel comfortable declaring tonight's game a victory, which concludes the 14th hole with a BIRDIE! Gets us back to four over par...just make four pars to close and finish with 86 wins. I think most would agree with me that the 15th hole will be our most important of the season thus far. All nine on the road, all nine on the West Coast. Four with San Francisco, three with LA, and the first two of the SD series. This is where we see what we're made of. Par would be a wonderful score on this one!

10. 2-7 Triple Bogey +4
11. 6-3 Birdie +3
12. 3-6 Double Bogey +5
13. 5-4 Par +5
14. 6-3 Birdie +4

Ringo
09-13-2006, 10:11 PM
I think that west coast trip took the wind out of my sails. I sort of doubt anyone was wondering where the update was though, so I don't feel too bad about it.

The 15th hole officially went down as a triple bogey (2-7) and dropped us to +7. The win on Tuesday against San Diego got us to 4-5 for bogey on the 16th. That leaves us +8 overall. Par the final two for 82 wins. Better than many may have expected, but still a huge letdown.

oneupper
09-14-2006, 08:12 PM
Good stuff, Ringo. Thanks for keeping this thread going.